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Thank you for this clear and logical comparison. From experience with both units I should add a couple of things that few others know or mention. ZOOM uses 24 bit 96 kHz processing internally. The AD & DA conversion is the same for both units: 16 bit, 44.1 kHz. However, once the signal is converted within the ZOOM products, the higher bit rate delivers vastly greater dynamic range and 96 kHz processing makes models more realistic. Another thing that is often overlooked: Noise. ALL zoom products have a very low noise floor; over -102 dB ! That's as good as the best Carl Martin pedals, as good as many AVID plug ins and superior to most of high-end studio hardware. And since ZOOM was the first company to use an internal side chain for sensing guitar signal both before and after distortion circuits, they have the best internal noise gates. That is the same type of noise gate used in the Decimator and newer EHX units. Do not let Decimator fool you. They may have some tenuous patent, but they did not invent side-chain triggering of limiting amplifiers. Audio engineers ( like me) have been doing that for decades, long before the digital era. Another great fact to know: ALL the ZOOM products use the same high-quality converters and internal processors, regardless of model or price point. That means that even if you buy ZOOM's cheapest pedals, they will have the same quality of internal processing and low noise floor. The ZOOM business model is logical. They use the SAME super fast HQ chips for most ( if not all) their digital products. Therefore their engineers do not have to relearn the idiosyncrasies of every damn new chip that comes along. That means they spend less time & money in R & D, which brings the cost down. Another good thing about using the same chips: they buy in BULK to get big discounts. That's why ZOOM products ALL have great sound, low noise and bigger bang-per-buck. Although I love the ME 80 for its simplicity, ruggedness and permanent visible knobs, the ZOOM is a clear winner for realistic models, dynamic range and low noise. The low noise might not seem like a big deal until you want to record. THEN it becomes THE central issue. Certain BOSS branded effects can only be found in the BOSS line, but except for peculiar special effects ( like Tera Echo and other MDP effects) all of those can be imitated or done better with a flexible effect chain once you know how. As you point out, the BOSS may be a better choice for beginners who do not know how to organize a signal chain. It also might be a better choice for those who just hate tweaking or prefer immediacy over flexibility. Some "shoe-gazer" types prefer the creative aspect of instant tweak-ability too. For them, the ME is a better choice. But the higher end ZOOM pedals are not difficult to learn, and are even quite intuitive with practice. Overall, they provide far more realistic models, lower noise, better dynamic range. Tonally, we have A-B'd the Zoom pedals against Eleven rack, TC Nova pedals, POD 500x and even the new Helix. With very few exceptions, those who played the units in blind-tests prefer the ZOOM models. There is one area where TC electronic and Digitech reveal themselves as superior. Reverbs. Some of the TC reverbs rival the legendary Lexicon reverb algorithms that Digitech ( Harmon) now owns. But those subtle nuances are only apparent in detailed high-quality recordings with acoustic instruments. In any LIVE setting or in any LOUD ROCK mix, all the BOSS and ZOOM reverbs are just fine. Anyway, sorry to bore you with this little treatise, but since you were the first decent comparison I've seen so far, I thought some of your more dedicated viewers might appreciate the experience and insider knowledge of an old pro. Like its parent company Roland, BOSS built its reputation for high quality dependable products, especially Boss Pedals. They sound good. They're super rugged and last for many years. But like Roland, all Boss products are overpriced in today's global markets with overseas manufacturing. Boss is leveraging its long-held reputation for a higher profit per unit. Whereas competitors must deliver greater value at all similar price points. Thank you again for providing the fairest and most rational comparison I've seen. My intent with this tedious lengthy comment is to help you educate your viewers. I have NO affiliation with any of the companies I mentioned. But I DO have about fifty years pro audio engineering experience. Everything I mentioned can be fact-checked, and I encourage you to do that! Also, I am not selling anything, so I think a few people will find this information useful.
I don't like the factory presets of the G5n. It's better if you make your own tone and I really love it. I was a BOSS guy and had a variety of the ME series but then I tried a G3Xn and fell inlove with it. Ended up trading my ME80 for a G5n. NO regrets. Period!
I have the G5n and am very familiar with the ME80. I can sum this up very simply. If you want to use this for gigging, the ME80 is much, much easier to use. Essentially it's just a collection of individual Boss pedals. If you want more dynamic and authentic tones, more options, and something with good amp models and distortions, then you want the Zoom G5n. Now, don't be too impressed by Zooms claims on processing power and memory. It's predecessor, the G5, was actually more flexible here and what Zoom should have done was simply give better switching options for live use and leave the rest alone. Why? Well, if you choose an amp model that takes up 2 slots, and a cab another slot. Add an EQ and that's 4 gone before you start. The looper is another two and a noisegate another slot. Believe me, these slots get used up fast and it's an awful design. I also hate having to scroll through menus to find stuff. I bought the G5n in the hope it would replace my Vox Tonelab TLSE (big, heavy beast!) or even my TLLE (bit smaller/lighter but still not light). The G5n is beautifully light and compact. But it's a bitch to tweak live. The Tonelabs may be old tech, but they sound great and are dead easy to tweak. I can select an amp model, cab model, noisegate, presence control, one modulation, one delay, one reverb, one extra pedal - and that would be all your 9 slots in the G5n. So, although you get a lot of options in the G5n it's not quite as good as it seems. On the ME80 or Tonelab, if you want to add reverb, delay, or distortion, you turn a dial and its there. On the G5n you have to find a place and allocate a place in your signal chain. So it's a royal pain in the butt if you want to tweak quickly on the fly. But, if you pre-programme it to suit your gigging set, or you're just playing at home, it's range, versatility and quality of tones is really good.
Uh yeah, but NO. I hate to say it, because I love Zoom, but ANYONE with a fairly healthy ear can hear the massive differences here. The Boss severely outshines the muddy Zoom. I mix audio for a living to pay my out-of-this-world NYC rent, but I guess me & the artists that pay me, could be wrong...
@@JeighNeither The Zoom can be muddy but if you use the Exciter and Air reverb at the end of the chain, they come to life. There is something odd about the way Zoom set the internal EQ.
love this video as i do ALL your videos. I own many floor units and always cool to hear you review them. i own the boss me-80 and a zoom g11 now too, Great comparison by you. All floor units are unique, and all brand names too so never expect any of them to sound similar. I love to hear and watch you play guitar, you are an amazing guitarist. Thanks for all you awesome reviews !!!
The Zoom G5n seems more like the Boss GT-100. The Boss ME-80 is all about user friendliness, I love that there is no menu scrolling. I don't need to move around my signal chain, I just want some tones and the ME-80 really does deliver.
On that point, the ME-80 does deliver, we completely agree... Those who need more detailed tweaking (or could be going through different set ups thus affecting tone) can go for the G5n....
I think the Zoom is all plastic. Boss is all metal. I got the ME-80 for $100 by trading in a small Boss Stomp-box at a guitar center that forgot to take down the Black Friday Sale sign on the ME-80. Trade in saved me $100, sale saved me $50.
@@TheDilligan Zoom was made by metal, the expresion pedal of the zoom is made by plastic. Boss is all metal. Boss has better marketing and status, that's why is more expensive.
In the end all that matters is how you want to play and sound like.. It's really helpful to get all these comparisons and reviews, which gives us the basic ideas.. But, I believe that in the end its all about you and your sound... And a bit of a budget!!
I've used both. Prefer and love my G5n. Also, Zoom has continually added new effects and patches to its site for downloading since the launch of this product. Some of these have been designed by well known guitarists.
I absolutely love my ME80 - the main reason i bought it was for ease of use - it is extremely user friendly which i think is much better in a live situation
Plug a stereo jack into the headphone socket just a dummy one with the wires cut. Makes the world of difference as it activates and cab simulation. And the quality of sound is tons better.
ZOOM G5n kills the BOSS as a practice tool: longer looping time with undo/redo, quantize and count-in option; drums/rhythms; stomp mode display shows the entire effects chain; loads more amp and cab sims; more reverbs (ME80 is totally deficient in this respect); more effects options overall. ME80 might be better live (I don't play out), but I guess if you set up your patches the G5n offers an almost infinite ability to switch during a performance.
For live gigging although the ME80 is very much laid out like a series of stomp-boxes, which may be preferred by some, there's a big problem because it has no patch-naming facilities. It's pointless having so many memory slots if you can't recall which one is which. With the G5n if I make up a 'Led Zep' patch I can give it an easily identifiable name. With the ME80 you'd need to make up a patch list which is inconvenient to say the least. The amp and cab modelling in the G5n is a world apart from the Boss. Re comments on build quality, as we all know Boss units are built like a tank. But frankly so is the Zoom - it's in a strong metal casing and switching is very good. Re comments about noise, clearly the more effects you add in a chain (especially distortion/gains) the more noise you'll generate on any pedal but the Zoom noise-gate is effective and in this regard there's no difference between ME80/G5n - both are quiet units. The inability of the ME80 to save stomp set-ups is a HUGE failing but is consistent with its 'raison-detre' of providing a more straightforward stompbox layout. I'm a gigging player and having played both extensively, I went G5n. Core reasons were amp/cab quality, effects quality, signal chain flexibility, more amp/cab/effect models, clear LCD displays with patch-naming, looper, rhythms - it's just a better sounding and more flexible unit for my purposes. However, it's not perfect by a long way. I bought it to see if it might replace my Vox Tonelab SE & LE (purely because of size & weight issues) - these may be 'old technology' and lack many of the features and FX in the G5n, but tonally they still sound superb, are very valve-like, are easy to use with a very well thought out and easy to use layout, and are very powerful processing wise. Superficially the G5n looks as if it should be very flexible - it has (up to) 9 effect slots which you'd think should be plenty - but they aren't and here's why. In the G5n, the amp model takes up 2 slots - add a cab, and a noisegate and that's four slots before you start. In the Tonelab SE/LE all of that is fully available before you get to modulation, delay, reverb, modulation and pedal. Yes you can have multiple delays, modulations etc in the G5n whereas in the TL's you can only select one from each section, but generally I don't need more than one from each. Now, if I want to set the foot treadle to control a function, in the G5n that takes up yet another one of the nine slots. Plus the TLSE/LE gives an additional 'Control' switch to kick in an effect without having to go into 'stomp box' mode. And to get the basic amp models to sound as punchy and dynamic as the TLSE (which they can do) you need to add an EQ or Exciter. So, I'm actually running out of 'slots' in the G5n to replicate what are relatively simple patches from my TLSE - not because I'm using a lot of effects, but because things like noise-gate, cab model, amp model, EQ and foot treadle control options are taking up so many slots. And there's a further problem. When I rehearse I play my TLSE through an amp but at gigs I'll go straight through the PA. The TLSE lets you globally select either amp or line-outs which adjusts the units signal to suit (the TLLE gives you 5 output options - 3 amp output variations, a general line out setting, and a 2nd line-out which has an additional dedicated EQ). With the G5n there is no global parameter that does this. With the cab models there is a setting to switch on/off a mic simulation - mic on is like the line signal in the TLSE (it's too bright and harsh to have on when playing through an amp). But there's no global control - if I went from rehearsal room amp to gigging through the PA, I'd have to manually switch on the cab mic in each patch which is pretty useless. I'd like Zoom to add a global parameter whereby you can set all cab models on/off. In the G5n I do like: its size & weight it has a small light easy to replace PSU (the TLSE/LE PSU's are big, heavy 'industrial strength' units) that I can set a 'solo' boost on each amp model (but you have to be in stomp mode to access it (with the original G5 there was a global boost that was easy to set and kick in for any patch). Bright and clear lcd displays The top lcd display showing all the chain for each patch Pedal chain order flexibility - very easy to use Pedal position swap feature - very useful Upgradeability - Zoom are still adding new amp, cab and FX updates Easy connectibility to computer, editing programme, external device source eg mobile phone Looper (although it can't save loops - you need something like a Boss RC3 etc if you need that) 'Exciter' pedal effect Very controllable cab models that you can actually 'tune' frequency and mic position wise Rhythm patterns that you can set as needed In the G5n there is a global output boost that acts like a tube-screamer but you can't set this to kick-in globally by footswitch - This is useless 'live' as you have to turn it on/off and set the boost level manually. In the G5n I don't like: Needing EQ/Exciter to 'lift' amp modelling tones to match the dynamics/punch of my TLSE/LE Lack of global amp/line output settings Pedal control does not allow you to ease in/out amp gain - probably one of the most useful things the pedal should be able to do ...and yet it doesn't give that option. A global boost that you can't kick in globally - you have to manually adjust it. With the G5 you could set it and kick it in on any patch. Apart from the 'tap' led, none of the bottom 5 control pedals have led's- it would have been good to see some lighting (eg fibre-optic?) on the 5 control pedals as on a dark stage you can't see which does what. The up/down buttons that scroll through all the amp, cab, effect, pedal options have to be operated by hand - it really wouldn't have taken much to allow these to be foot controllable. It really doesn't have enough memory slots; you have to use up its memory slots for foot-treadle functionality, amp (2 slots!), cab & noisegate, looper uses up 2 memory slots (this was global in the G5!), and rhythm uses up a memory slot. A 7 band EQ uses up 2 memory slots! 9 slots sounds a lot, but trust me, it's NOT. And if you have the G3n/xn you're even worse off because you only get 7 slots with these. G5n has lost features that the G5 had So, can the G5n replace my big & heavy TLSE (or slightly smaller/lighter TLLE?) - I really, really wanted it to but I suspect the answer is probably going to be 'no'. It's a really great value MFX pedal that offers a lot of bang for buck, but although its functionality and switching options are hugely superior to its G5 predecessor, the designers still need to do some work to make it more practical for use by gigging players. They really need to sit down with gigging players to understand what the important stuff is, and what's just 'frilly' stuff.
Can you comment on the Guitar Lab software? Are you now able to edit and create signal chains on your PC like you could with the G5 on the Edit and Share software?
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For both home use and gig use, i think Zoom G5n is the better option. BOSS ME-80 does offer most boss pedal fx but Zoom G5n can sound like fx units with IR
I used both of these units in live situations and studio recording, I can say without doubt that Zoom blows the the Boss clean out of the water in so many ways. Allowing you to add and mix affects pedals and view them on your paddleboard is a great function it sounds amazing and it’s ease-of-use is outstanding it replicates any pedal so close it’s scary compare to the boss. Choosing between one of these units the Zoom is the way to go 100%
Starting at the Mesa comparison, the volume and EQ output changed so that the Zoom remained full 3D sounding while the Boss seemed to be thinner 2D sounding. Actually, this not the case. The Boss is cleaner and more articulate with wide sound spectrum and straight forward controls as well as computer programmable.
Same here but I bought zoom. Many were happy with the presets. So I have a start. Then after a while I can start tuning those to my sounds. Well well see. Think both are good products for us just need to fall on a decision. Mine was made last week. Have fun on yours.
The Boss can sound even better if you plug in a dummy stereo jack into the record out / headphones slot. It activates the cab simulation / amp simulation according to the manual. This has a HUGE effect on sound quality. Its not brilliant without doing this.
To get a better sound, if it is connected to the sound table, it is advisable to use the P2 plug in the Boss Me 80. Actually with P2 it got much better!
Boss tone studio makes me more incluned to get either an ME80 or a boss GT1. Ive been doing non stop research on affordable mulit effects units. I like the knobs and ease of use on the me80 but the gt1 offers more effects and is more modern. The zoom here sounds really good.
Safe to say that most of the multi effects in terms of quality - basically all of them regardless of the manufacturer are in the same ball park quality wise. Once you've owned a LOT of gear from a lot of manufacturers it's easy to understand this, it basically comes down to features. The ME80 is cool because it can run on batteries and the stomp mode works so easily, yet the ZOOM gets a new amp and effects to download into the unit every month from the website and you can make the signal chain anyway you want.
I am really only looking at using the effects without amp models. I love the sound of my amp too much. I like the way the G5n lets you move the effects around in the chain. I do wonder about the processing overloading with too many effects. If I am not using an amp model (these being the ones that use most CPU) in the chain, about how many effects could be used?
This is old news, & I hate this, because I actually really appreciate Zoom, especially their field recorders; it was the OG palm studio that first grabbed my attention with huge spacial distortions that rivaled things put in boxes 10 X's their size, BUT, & yes it's a big but... any good ear immediately notices how much better the BOSS sounds over the Zoom. I wish it wasn't so drastic but it is. Now that I"ve grown up a little, recorded a few albums, and matured my ear to appreciate the minutia, I can really pick out small tonal differences in guitar & gear, but here, that expertise is not warranted. The Boss sounds Better; much better. It's clear.
The cab sims will more useful if you're not plugging into a cab....since we're already using a cab, a good one at that, we wouldnt want to further colour the sound with our comparison, since the Boss technically has only ONE cab sim mode....
Many seem to prefer Zoom for its sound quality, versatility and price...and they all seem bedroom players because toying around with tons of combinations and menus it's fun and enjoyable only for the first times. Then it comes to play for real in a pub or for rehearsal and you realize how difficult is to find a proper sound and change it on the fly if needed even though you are not a beginner with efx, signal chain and routing. I think it is useless having virtually better tones (not even true imo) if you can't taking em out without going insane and loosing yourself into endless sub-menus. I had serious headaches and frustration using the zoom. I haven't played the Boss yet but it looks certainly easier to use and built like a tank. Sound wise it doesn't even seem so inferior like many claim. It is surely engineered better as you can see from the layout.
Did you try using an acoustic guitar with this? I like using my acoustic for a very wide variety/genre of music not solely heavy metal. I like heavy metal, any metal as well, but my taste is wider and I use flat or piezo sources.
Hi, i have a few Questions, can you edit or vary or add the effects from the computer connected to the pedal? Or does it necessarily have to make from the pedal? I have seen in other models like the Nexus editor that is for the Digitech 360 and other pedals, and you can customize the effects and make custom presets, but in the zoom lab, I have been unable to find evidence that the same thing can be done, just I've seen that you can change names, or download new effects from the zoom page, but my question is , can you modify the tones and effects from the computer connected to the pedal? Regards !
Use ToneLib Zoom. Its a third party program that a group wrote to address those problems. Its much more usable than GuitarLab or whatever Zoom calls it.
Here is a interesting question? Could someone use the me80 if they could not read the screen? It would be like using a guitar amplifier, you can hear what each knob does and learn to use it by sound right? Or would individual stump boxes be better for a vision impaired guitarist?
hey nice video... I already own ME 80 but its looper is nt very good coz we can't switch patches on memory mode over a single recorded loop. can u pls confirm if Zoom has that feature? coz I'm planning to switch to zoom.. thnx !
SA this may not help much but my advice would be to use a dedicated loop pedal like a boss rc3 ( 99 loop saves unlimited overdubs ) after your pedal ,,, with the aid of an ab y splitter box i run ether guitar +effects /bass / keyboard and e drums into the looper then into amp it makes life so much easier having a dedicated looper
both are good.. for tech inclined musician I would get the Zoom.. so many options for Zoom.. also they did not mention that you can use it as a USB interface for recording comes with software to edit or make your own patch even download other patches.. firmware upgrades.. Boss is for the Boss! Plug it in and Go! So simple and much easier to setup..
saya mempunyai ME-80.. tapi saya bingung dengan setting nya. mohon jika anda berkenan berbagi ilmu. saya ingin suara distorsi yang soft dan ingin seperti Mr.Jhon petruci. terimakasih jika sudi membalas komen saya
jef Klym, setting preamp yang stack, drive nya di 55 yang lainnya dalam keadaan flat aja di 50 nnti rubah aja sesuai selera bass, mid atau treble nya, lalu nyalakan pasang EQ/FX2 ke menu EQ trus sesuaikan bass, mid, trble nya sesuai selera karena masing2 pick up gitar berbeda karakter, terus untuk booster nyalakan OD/DS ke menu T Scream dalam keadaan gainnya sesuaikan kalau mau high gain maka harus ditambah drive nya, kemudian nyalakan MOD nya pasang delay, jadi deh john petruci nya hehee
Blake Lightera jika me-80 di kembalikan ke settingan pabrik caranya bagaimana?? ini settinganku sudah sangat kacau, hehehe.. terimakasih karena anda sudi membalas komenku 😊
ganti ke menu manual mode dulu, lalu pencet dan tahan pedal MOD sama tombol edit, sampai tulisan FA muncul di display, lalu pencet tombol write, kemudian saat panduan berkedip2 pencet lagi tombol write nya, ada kok di buku manualnya hanya nggak ada yg pake bahasa indonesia
Great video and you're a killer guitar player! I'd like to say that you can switch the Manual mode on the ME-80 so that switching to it will keep the settings from the Memory mode, only you can turn each effect on and off. The downside is you'll have to reference what your pedals are set to externally since the knob positions will be meaningless in this mode; but nonetheless, it still gives you that "multiple pedalboards with individual stompbox" thing you like in the G5N. I own an ME-80 and I've been able to get some killer tones out of it, listening for its strengths and minimizing its weaknesses. I would do the same had I bought a Zoom but I love the physical knob layout of the Boss. Oh, one more thing: while the Boss signal chain is fixed, the effects actually jump around depending. So if you set the Modulation to Phaser, it will actually move to before the Amp in the chain. Likewise the Boost on FX2 will move to right before the OD pedal. All this can be verified in the Boss software you can use the ME-80 with! I am not saying the ME-80 is better than the Zoom. What I am saying is that if you realize what it is and does, it's actually pretty excellent. If I had any experience with the G5n, I would likely say the same thing.
actually i want to buy me80.. but shop out of stock on that time.. no choice then i bought zoom g5n... compared my experience with my me25.. g5n is much easier to setting and explore.. plus, variety of drum type make it more fun to practice alone.
Was the speaker simulation on the Boss? Just asking. I have the Boss and if you don’t record out the 1/8 jack or have a “dummy” plugged in you won’t get speaker simulation. Makes a big difference. Thanks for the comparison.
I have a boss Eband JS-8 and now buy Zoom G5n, for me G5n is very easy an intuitive to use (i have a ms50g too), but i think the boss patches are better, the factory patches from zoom are not so good. the other important think is boss have more amp simulations.
I cant decide which one schould I buy... Can I play manual mode on G5n just like in me80 ..i think while playing live you need simple set one button clean,one OD ,delay,one chorus/flanger one Hall one wah.Can you set this on g5n?
@@accentontheoff Asking me this in 2021, there are so many more up to date effects from other brands such as Mooer. The GE250 / GE200 is leagues better than the ME80. Me80 is unfortunately outdated. It is still the best selling just because its the least intimidating to use, that's about it. There's another video on the channel comparing the Me80 against the zoom and mooer multieffects
After having the pleasure to try both side-to-side, I must say the Zoom really does win this fight. In particular, the G5 overdrives and amp sims are vastly superior to the boss COSM stuff. A major buzzkill for me in regards to the ME80 was that the phrase looper actually deletes the recorded loop when you hit stop -this was not the case for the G5, as well as its excellent 2-button functionality. For just effects, I think the Boss ME80 does very well however, and I wouldn't discourage people from using it for its effects!
G5n and G3Xn has same the sounding but the thing here is G5n has more control and more pedals to add in pedal chain. G5n has 9 while G3Xn has 7 pedals in chain.
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Thank you for this clear and logical comparison. From experience with both units I should add a couple of things that few others know or mention.
ZOOM uses 24 bit 96 kHz processing internally. The AD & DA conversion is the same for both units: 16 bit, 44.1 kHz. However, once the signal is converted within the ZOOM products, the higher bit rate delivers vastly greater dynamic range and 96 kHz processing makes models more realistic.
Another thing that is often overlooked: Noise. ALL zoom products have a very low noise floor; over -102 dB ! That's as good as the best Carl Martin pedals, as good as many AVID plug ins and superior to most of high-end studio hardware.
And since ZOOM was the first company to use an internal side chain for sensing guitar signal both before and after distortion circuits, they have the best internal noise gates. That is the same type of noise gate used in the Decimator and newer EHX units. Do not let Decimator fool you. They may have some tenuous patent, but they did not invent side-chain triggering of limiting amplifiers. Audio engineers ( like me) have been doing that for decades, long before the digital era.
Another great fact to know: ALL the ZOOM products use the same high-quality converters and internal processors, regardless of model or price point. That means that even if you buy ZOOM's cheapest pedals, they will have the same quality of internal processing and low noise floor.
The ZOOM business model is logical. They use the SAME super fast HQ chips for most ( if not all) their digital products. Therefore their engineers do not have to relearn the idiosyncrasies of every damn new chip that comes along. That means they spend less time & money in R & D, which brings the cost down. Another good thing about using the same chips: they buy in BULK to get big discounts. That's why ZOOM products ALL have great sound, low noise and bigger bang-per-buck.
Although I love the ME 80 for its simplicity, ruggedness and permanent visible knobs, the ZOOM is a clear winner for realistic models, dynamic range and low noise. The low noise might not seem like a big deal until you want to record. THEN it becomes THE central issue. Certain BOSS branded effects can only be found in the BOSS line, but except for peculiar special effects ( like Tera Echo and other MDP effects) all of those can be imitated or done better with a flexible effect chain once you know how.
As you point out, the BOSS may be a better choice for beginners who do not know how to organize a signal chain. It also might be a better choice for those who just hate tweaking or prefer immediacy over flexibility. Some "shoe-gazer" types prefer the creative aspect of instant tweak-ability too. For them, the ME is a better choice.
But the higher end ZOOM pedals are not difficult to learn, and are even quite intuitive with practice. Overall, they provide far more realistic models, lower noise, better dynamic range. Tonally, we have A-B'd the Zoom pedals against Eleven rack, TC Nova pedals, POD 500x and even the new Helix. With very few exceptions, those who played the units in blind-tests prefer the ZOOM models.
There is one area where TC electronic and Digitech reveal themselves as superior. Reverbs. Some of the TC reverbs rival the legendary Lexicon reverb algorithms that Digitech ( Harmon) now owns. But those subtle nuances are only apparent in detailed high-quality recordings with acoustic instruments. In any LIVE setting or in any LOUD ROCK mix, all the BOSS and ZOOM reverbs are just fine.
Anyway, sorry to bore you with this little treatise, but since you were the first decent comparison I've seen so far, I thought some of your more dedicated viewers might appreciate the experience and insider knowledge of an old pro.
Like its parent company Roland, BOSS built its reputation for high quality dependable products, especially Boss Pedals. They sound good. They're super rugged and last for many years. But like Roland, all Boss products are overpriced in today's global markets with overseas manufacturing. Boss is leveraging its long-held reputation for a higher profit per unit. Whereas competitors must deliver greater value at all similar price points.
Thank you again for providing the fairest and most rational comparison I've seen. My intent with this tedious lengthy comment is to help you educate your viewers.
I have NO affiliation with any of the companies I mentioned. But I DO have about fifty years pro audio engineering experience.
Everything I mentioned can be fact-checked, and I encourage you to do that!
Also, I am not selling anything, so I think a few people will find this information useful.
Great men ! awesome
thank you so much for providing a detailed information.. this is really a great help!
Thank you very much! Looked every where for such a comprehensive review. And it's hidden here in the comment section.
Just thak you
Great details - all helps to explain why the Zoom sounds more realistic. I have the 3gnx now and will be switching to the 5 for recording.
I don't like the factory presets of the G5n. It's better if you make your own tone and I really love it. I was a BOSS guy and had a variety of the ME series but then I tried a G3Xn and fell inlove with it. Ended up trading my ME80 for a G5n. NO regrets. Period!
Geoffrey Saniel me too g5n factory presets are suck haha but own presets after edited are sweet
Came to check out the processors, left wanting that Ibanez.
Not me, hotrodguitar1. Ibamez models may be decent, but after all the ones I was surrounded by in the 90s, I would sooner take a Rogue.
Same here
Both units sounds good - but the zoom sounds less like a pedal and more like a real amplifier. Thanks for doing this video!
Zoom for me. Great video. The Vox demo sealed it for me. The Boss just sounds to digital.
apples that look different than oranges that taste the same. I went with the ME 80, no regrets.
Zoom G5N is the one i'm using for now. Awsome for what i need. Playing with The SM57 simulator is amazing.
27:50 Fuzz by Boss me80 sounds amazing!!
The sound i was looking for😊
I have the G5n and am very familiar with the ME80. I can sum this up very simply. If you want to use this for gigging, the ME80 is much, much easier to use. Essentially it's just a collection of individual Boss pedals. If you want more dynamic and authentic tones, more options, and something with good amp models and distortions, then you want the Zoom G5n. Now, don't be too impressed by Zooms claims on processing power and memory. It's predecessor, the G5, was actually more flexible here and what Zoom should have done was simply give better switching options for live use and leave the rest alone. Why? Well, if you choose an amp model that takes up 2 slots, and a cab another slot. Add an EQ and that's 4 gone before you start. The looper is another two and a noisegate another slot. Believe me, these slots get used up fast and it's an awful design. I also hate having to scroll through menus to find stuff. I bought the G5n in the hope it would replace my Vox Tonelab TLSE (big, heavy beast!) or even my TLLE (bit smaller/lighter but still not light). The G5n is beautifully light and compact. But it's a bitch to tweak live. The Tonelabs may be old tech, but they sound great and are dead easy to tweak. I can select an amp model, cab model, noisegate, presence control, one modulation, one delay, one reverb, one extra pedal - and that would be all your 9 slots in the G5n. So, although you get a lot of options in the G5n it's not quite as good as it seems. On the ME80 or Tonelab, if you want to add reverb, delay, or distortion, you turn a dial and its there. On the G5n you have to find a place and allocate a place in your signal chain. So it's a royal pain in the butt if you want to tweak quickly on the fly. But, if you pre-programme it to suit your gigging set, or you're just playing at home, it's range, versatility and quality of tones is really good.
I've owned G5 and G5N and G5N amps+cabs are lightyears better than the simple G5.
They are not in the same league.
Uh yeah, but NO. I hate to say it, because I love Zoom, but ANYONE with a fairly healthy ear can hear the massive differences here. The Boss severely outshines the muddy Zoom. I mix audio for a living to pay my out-of-this-world NYC rent, but I guess me & the artists that pay me, could be wrong...
@@JeighNeither The Zoom can be muddy but if you use the Exciter and Air reverb at the end of the chain, they come to life. There is something odd about the way Zoom set the internal EQ.
Thank you for this explanation! Helped me more than this video, im going to buy Boss cuz of gigging and easy to use 🤘🏻thank you again
Great demo both the ZoomG5n and boss ME80 sounds great. Your playing is superb
love this video as i do ALL your videos. I own many floor units and always cool to hear you review them. i own the boss me-80 and a zoom g11 now too, Great comparison by you. All floor units are unique, and all brand names too so never expect any of them to sound similar. I love to hear and watch you play guitar, you are an amazing guitarist. Thanks for all you awesome reviews !!!
The Zoom G5n seems more like the Boss GT-100. The Boss ME-80 is all about user friendliness, I love that there is no menu scrolling. I don't need to move around my signal chain, I just want some tones and the ME-80 really does deliver.
On that point, the ME-80 does deliver, we completely agree...
Those who need more detailed tweaking (or could be going through different set ups thus affecting tone) can go for the G5n....
Me-80 is pathetic for metal
What makes boss more expensive than zoom? This question arises from curiosity. Zoom also seems to have everything..even has rhythm patterns.
I think the Zoom is all plastic. Boss is all metal.
I got the ME-80 for $100 by trading in a small Boss Stomp-box at a guitar center that forgot to take down the Black Friday Sale sign on the ME-80. Trade in saved me $100, sale saved me $50.
Metal vs plastic
@@TheDilligan Zoom was made by metal, the expresion pedal of the zoom is made by plastic. Boss is all metal.
Boss has better marketing and status, that's why is more expensive.
In the end all that matters is how you want to play and sound like.. It's really helpful to get all these comparisons and reviews, which gives us the basic ideas.. But, I believe that in the end its all about you and your sound... And a bit of a budget!!
I've used both. Prefer and love my G5n. Also, Zoom has continually added new effects and patches to its site for downloading since the launch of this product. Some of these have been designed by well known guitarists.
thanks a bunch for writing/doing this video. Trying to look for bang-4-ur-buck video with these 2 models and here it was on UA-cam! Great job!!
The Zoom certainly sounds far superior in every way.
The M80 is old, but honestly, i like it more.
I absolutely love my ME80 - the main reason i bought it was for ease of use - it is extremely user friendly which i think is much better in a live situation
bradarooney The ME10 was easier and better.
Peter Gull hmm interesting - I'll have to check out a video of it
Plug a stereo jack into the headphone socket just a dummy one with the wires cut. Makes the world of difference as it activates and cab simulation. And the quality of sound is tons better.
I use a Randall 4x cab,a mooer baby bomb and the me80.sounds good
I use me80 but Im not satisfy with it
I am really grateful for this video, Thank you brother. I cant believe I am saying this but I prefer the overall sound and feel of the Zoom pedal.
Thank you for all your hard work. The demo was amazing, and informative...cheers from Ohio.
I have zoom G3X for 4 years now.... I really love it...
ZOOM G5n kills the BOSS as a practice tool: longer looping time with undo/redo, quantize and count-in option; drums/rhythms; stomp mode display shows the entire effects chain; loads more amp and cab sims; more reverbs (ME80 is totally deficient in this respect); more effects options overall. ME80 might be better live (I don't play out), but I guess if you set up your patches the G5n offers an almost infinite ability to switch during a performance.
Yes, but me is multieffect, nit processor. It would be correctly to listen this zoom vs boss gt 100
For live gigging although the ME80 is very much laid out like a series of stomp-boxes, which may be preferred by some, there's a big problem because it has no patch-naming facilities. It's pointless having so many memory slots if you can't recall which one is which. With the G5n if I make up a 'Led Zep' patch I can give it an easily identifiable name. With the ME80 you'd need to make up a patch list which is inconvenient to say the least. The amp and cab modelling in the G5n is a world apart from the Boss. Re comments on build quality, as we all know Boss units are built like a tank. But frankly so is the Zoom - it's in a strong metal casing and switching is very good. Re comments about noise, clearly the more effects you add in a chain (especially distortion/gains) the more noise you'll generate on any pedal but the Zoom noise-gate is effective and in this regard there's no difference between ME80/G5n - both are quiet units. The inability of the ME80 to save stomp set-ups is a HUGE failing but is consistent with its 'raison-detre' of providing a more straightforward stompbox layout.
I'm a gigging player and having played both extensively, I went G5n. Core reasons were amp/cab quality, effects quality, signal chain flexibility, more amp/cab/effect models, clear LCD displays with patch-naming, looper, rhythms - it's just a better sounding and more flexible unit for my purposes. However, it's not perfect by a long way. I bought it to see if it might replace my Vox Tonelab SE & LE (purely because of size & weight issues) - these may be 'old technology' and lack many of the features and FX in the G5n, but tonally they still sound superb, are very valve-like, are easy to use with a very well thought out and easy to use layout, and are very powerful processing wise.
Superficially the G5n looks as if it should be very flexible - it has (up to) 9 effect slots which you'd think should be plenty - but they aren't and here's why.
In the G5n, the amp model takes up 2 slots - add a cab, and a noisegate and that's four slots before you start. In the Tonelab SE/LE all of that is fully available before you get to modulation, delay, reverb, modulation and pedal. Yes you can have multiple delays, modulations etc in the G5n whereas in the TL's you can only select one from each section, but generally I don't need more than one from each. Now, if I want to set the foot treadle to control a function, in the G5n that takes up yet another one of the nine slots. Plus the TLSE/LE gives an additional 'Control' switch to kick in an effect without having to go into 'stomp box' mode. And to get the basic amp models to sound as punchy and dynamic as the TLSE (which they can do) you need to add an EQ or Exciter. So, I'm actually running out of 'slots' in the G5n to replicate what are relatively simple patches from my TLSE - not because I'm using a lot of effects, but because things like noise-gate, cab model, amp model, EQ and foot treadle control options are taking up so many slots.
And there's a further problem. When I rehearse I play my TLSE through an amp but at gigs I'll go straight through the PA. The TLSE lets you globally select either amp or line-outs which adjusts the units signal to suit (the TLLE gives you 5 output options - 3 amp output variations, a general line out setting, and a 2nd line-out which has an additional dedicated EQ). With the G5n there is no global parameter that does this. With the cab models there is a setting to switch on/off a mic simulation - mic on is like the line signal in the TLSE (it's too bright and harsh to have on when playing through an amp). But there's no global control - if I went from rehearsal room amp to gigging through the PA, I'd have to manually switch on the cab mic in each patch which is pretty useless. I'd like Zoom to add a global parameter whereby you can set all cab models on/off.
In the G5n I do like:
its size & weight
it has a small light easy to replace PSU (the TLSE/LE PSU's are big, heavy 'industrial strength' units)
that I can set a 'solo' boost on each amp model (but you have to be in stomp mode to access it (with the original G5 there was a global boost that was easy to set and kick in for any patch).
Bright and clear lcd displays
The top lcd display showing all the chain for each patch
Pedal chain order flexibility - very easy to use
Pedal position swap feature - very useful
Upgradeability - Zoom are still adding new amp, cab and FX updates
Easy connectibility to computer, editing programme, external device source eg mobile phone
Looper (although it can't save loops - you need something like a Boss RC3 etc if you need that)
'Exciter' pedal effect
Very controllable cab models that you can actually 'tune' frequency and mic position wise
Rhythm patterns that you can set as needed
In the G5n there is a global output boost that acts like a tube-screamer but you can't set this to kick-in globally by footswitch - This is useless 'live' as you have to turn it on/off and set the boost level manually.
In the G5n I don't like:
Needing EQ/Exciter to 'lift' amp modelling tones to match the dynamics/punch of my TLSE/LE
Lack of global amp/line output settings
Pedal control does not allow you to ease in/out amp gain - probably one of the most useful things the pedal should be able to do ...and yet it doesn't give that option.
A global boost that you can't kick in globally - you have to manually adjust it. With the G5 you could set it and kick it in on any patch.
Apart from the 'tap' led, none of the bottom 5 control pedals have led's- it would have been good to see some lighting (eg fibre-optic?) on the 5 control pedals as on a dark stage you can't see which does what.
The up/down buttons that scroll through all the amp, cab, effect, pedal options have to be operated by hand - it really wouldn't have taken much to allow these to be foot controllable.
It really doesn't have enough memory slots; you have to use up its memory slots for foot-treadle functionality, amp (2 slots!), cab & noisegate, looper uses up 2 memory slots (this was global in the G5!), and rhythm uses up a memory slot. A 7 band EQ uses up 2 memory slots! 9 slots sounds a lot, but trust me, it's NOT. And if you have the G3n/xn you're even worse off because you only get 7 slots with these.
G5n has lost features that the G5 had
So, can the G5n replace my big & heavy TLSE (or slightly smaller/lighter TLLE?) - I really, really wanted it to but I suspect the answer is probably going to be 'no'. It's a really great value MFX pedal that offers a lot of bang for buck, but although its functionality and switching options are hugely superior to its G5 predecessor, the designers still need to do some work to make it more practical for use by gigging players. They really need to sit down with gigging players to understand what the important stuff is, and what's just 'frilly' stuff.
Can you comment on the Guitar Lab software? Are you now able to edit and create signal chains on your PC like you could with the G5 on the Edit and Share software?
If only Zoom would create one with the same user experience as that lovely hands on Boss design, we want knobs and switches, not menus
Just got the me 90 aftar watching this awesome stuff cant wait to stack it with my tube amp
That’s curious, in my band one guitarist uses the zoom and the other uses the boss
Cool, you can enjoy in making them to argue which one is better. You start with the comment and get the popcorn out. They will not stop easy so it's going to be a good entertainment for rest of the band. You can film that and get some serious viewers for that 😂😂😂
@@armyofazra1922 lol
For both home use and gig use, i think Zoom G5n is the better option. BOSS ME-80 does offer most boss pedal fx but Zoom G5n can sound like fx units with IR
i am very confused which to buy zoom g5 xn and bose me 80
and... what is your final decision after this weeks? I have the same trouble 😅
same here
I end up buying the G5n and I don't regret it
I used both of these units in live situations and studio recording, I can say without doubt that Zoom blows the the Boss clean out of the water in so many ways. Allowing you to add and mix affects pedals and view them on your paddleboard is a great function it sounds amazing and it’s ease-of-use is outstanding it replicates any pedal so close it’s scary compare to the boss.
Choosing between one of these units the Zoom is the way to go 100%
Starting at the Mesa comparison, the volume and EQ output changed so that the Zoom remained full 3D sounding while the Boss seemed to be thinner 2D sounding. Actually, this not the case. The Boss is cleaner and more articulate with wide sound spectrum and straight forward controls as well as computer programmable.
very true
is zoom not comuter programmable?
Great comparison brother, REAL helpful. Thanks
In the first tests you did not use the P10 in Boss Me-80. Why? It seemed that the Me-80 is muffled.
The added drum machine is a bonus for the G5n... :)
Great overview. I really liked the sound of that Zoom but I'm a hobby player so the simplicity of the Boss makes me lean in that direction.
Same here but I bought zoom. Many were happy with the presets. So I have a start. Then after a while I can start tuning those to my sounds. Well well see. Think both are good products for us just need to fall on a decision. Mine was made last week. Have fun on yours.
@@hifly1929 haha now I’m trying to make the same choice 😂
Excellent Video! You just made me subscribe! Cheers from the Philippines!
ano binili mo bro hehe
The Boss can sound even better if you plug in a dummy stereo jack into the record out / headphones slot. It activates the cab simulation / amp simulation according to the manual. This has a HUGE effect on sound quality. Its not brilliant without doing this.
Yes I did that for one of the amp types in the vid.....
To get a better sound, if it is connected to the sound table, it is advisable to use the P2 plug in the Boss Me 80. Actually with P2 it got much better!
whats p2?
sound table? live or recording?
Your playing is so impressive, I forgot I am here for comparison.
Boss sounds wel rounded, analogish to my ears and more organic ❤️ Boss is Legendary for a reason ❤️
Boss tone studio makes me more incluned to get either an ME80 or a boss GT1. Ive been doing non stop research on affordable mulit effects units. I like the knobs and ease of use on the me80 but the gt1 offers more effects and is more modern. The zoom here sounds really good.
Which one you bought and how is the experience?
I had the me80 before and i could not get it to sound as good as you did.
Boss sounds thin. The Zoom sounds are rich but does sound a bit muddy at times under certain settings. I'd rather go with Zoom for richness.
Safe to say that most of the multi effects in terms of quality - basically all of them regardless of the manufacturer are in the same ball park quality wise. Once you've owned a LOT of gear from a lot of manufacturers it's easy to understand this, it basically comes down to features. The ME80 is cool because it can run on batteries and the stomp mode works so easily, yet the ZOOM gets a new amp and effects to download into the unit every month from the website and you can make the signal chain anyway you want.
The Boss tones sound so much better. But I want a drum machine and looper. What to do?
Go for zoom g5n
I am really only looking at using the effects without amp models. I love the sound of my amp too much. I like the way the G5n lets you move the effects around in the chain. I do wonder about the processing overloading with too many effects. If I am not using an amp model (these being the ones that use most CPU) in the chain, about how many effects could be used?
Daniel Tetrault 7
The Zoom clean Fender sounds great, and your playing was very pretty
what happened in 25:55 ?? Simply plugging an adapter enhances the sound?
It activates the cab sim....explanation at 20:59
Thanks. You rock! Will try this with my unit
I have Zoom G3, is a great multi effects. You will amazed with the sound quality. Cheers.
Yup agree...
How is it possible to find the Boss better than the zoom in this video ?!! Can't understand.
I just have one Boss, a good looper in fact 😀
fanboys
This is old news, & I hate this, because I actually really appreciate Zoom, especially their field recorders; it was the OG palm studio that first grabbed my attention with huge spacial distortions that rivaled things put in boxes 10 X's their size, BUT, & yes it's a big but... any good ear immediately notices how much better the BOSS sounds over the Zoom. I wish it wasn't so drastic but it is. Now that I"ve grown up a little, recorded a few albums, and matured my ear to appreciate the minutia, I can really pick out small tonal differences in guitar & gear, but here, that expertise is not warranted. The Boss sounds Better; much better. It's clear.
zoom comes more powerful on tecnology over last years
Sorry for the question, but why you don't use the cab simulation on the zoom? Thank you
The cab sims will more useful if you're not plugging into a cab....since we're already using a cab, a good one at that, we wouldnt want to further colour the sound with our comparison, since the Boss technically has only ONE cab sim mode....
Zoom g5n or mooer ge 200 ?? Anyone
Killer playing!
Its boss that you want to take into the studio. Zoom is nice but, that sound doesn't really surrounds your head. If you know what i mean.
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Would you go for this Zoom or the Ampero Hotone?? In Terms of sound?
For a live situation, which one would you recommend ?
me 80
which one will be better boss GT 1 and zoom G5n
Gt 1
G5n
Many seem to prefer Zoom for its sound quality, versatility and price...and they all seem bedroom players because toying around with tons of combinations and menus it's fun and enjoyable only for the first times.
Then it comes to play for real in a pub or for rehearsal and you realize how difficult is to find a proper sound and change it on the fly if needed even though you are not a beginner with efx, signal chain and routing. I think it is useless having virtually better tones (not even true imo) if you can't taking em out without going insane and loosing yourself into endless sub-menus. I had serious headaches and frustration using the zoom. I haven't played the Boss yet but it looks certainly easier to use and built like a tank. Sound wise it doesn't even seem so inferior like many claim. It is surely engineered better as you can see from the layout.
Did you try using an acoustic guitar with this? I like using my acoustic for a very wide variety/genre of music not solely heavy metal. I like heavy metal, any metal as well, but my taste is wider and I use flat or piezo sources.
boss does have a looper also..but g5n is having a bit more options n it's new so maybe getting the push for the marketing purpose
Can these multi effects be used with a regular tube amp? Thanks
look closer the only way to save on the me 80 is from the manual mode
Which one you prefer between these two?
Hi, i have a few Questions, can you edit or vary or add the effects from the computer connected to the pedal? Or does it necessarily have to make from the pedal? I have seen in other models like the Nexus editor that is for the Digitech 360 and other pedals, and you can customize the effects and make custom presets, but in the zoom lab, I have been unable to find evidence that the same thing can be done, just I've seen that you can change names, or download new effects from the zoom page, but my question is , can you modify the tones and effects from the computer connected to the pedal?
Regards !
Use ToneLib Zoom. Its a third party program that a group wrote to address those problems. Its much more usable than GuitarLab or whatever Zoom calls it.
BoSS win I think it give better sound on a live show 😍 and nice video bro
Here is a interesting question? Could someone use the me80 if they could not read the screen? It would be like using a guitar amplifier, you can hear what each knob does and learn to use it by sound right? Or would individual stump boxes be better for a vision impaired guitarist?
I guess you could if he/she can remember the layout, it is quite a lot of knobs and parameters to remember.
Music Bliss Malaysia would this be easier to use than something like the zoom G1? I need to upgrade soon it is on its last legs.
congratulations, extremely interesting video.
hey nice video... I already own ME 80 but its looper is nt very good coz we can't switch patches on memory mode over a single recorded loop. can u pls confirm if Zoom has that feature? coz I'm planning to switch to zoom.. thnx !
SA this may not help much but my advice would be to use a dedicated loop pedal like a boss rc3 ( 99 loop saves unlimited overdubs ) after your pedal ,,, with the aid of an ab y splitter box i run ether guitar +effects /bass / keyboard and e drums into the looper then into amp it makes life so much easier having a dedicated looper
Siempre maximizo el tubo de vacío para cada parche y diré que el G5 sigue siendo mejor que mis modeladores y procesadores de efectos del año 2023.
both are good.. for tech inclined musician I would get the Zoom.. so many options for Zoom.. also they did not mention that you can use it as a USB interface for recording comes with software to edit or make your own patch even download other patches.. firmware upgrades.. Boss is for the Boss! Plug it in and Go! So simple and much easier to setup..
Which will be better for stage performance
i love the sound of the Boss ME80. bought it recently and super satisfied.
saya mempunyai ME-80..
tapi saya bingung dengan setting nya. mohon jika anda berkenan berbagi ilmu. saya ingin suara distorsi yang soft dan ingin seperti Mr.Jhon petruci. terimakasih jika sudi membalas komen saya
jef Klym, setting preamp yang stack, drive nya di 55 yang lainnya dalam keadaan flat aja di 50 nnti rubah aja sesuai selera bass, mid atau treble nya, lalu nyalakan pasang EQ/FX2 ke menu EQ trus sesuaikan bass, mid, trble nya sesuai selera karena masing2 pick up gitar berbeda karakter, terus untuk booster nyalakan OD/DS ke menu T Scream dalam keadaan gainnya sesuaikan kalau mau high gain maka harus ditambah drive nya, kemudian nyalakan MOD nya pasang delay, jadi deh john petruci nya hehee
Blake Lightera jika me-80 di kembalikan ke settingan pabrik caranya bagaimana??
ini settinganku sudah sangat kacau, hehehe.. terimakasih karena anda sudi membalas komenku 😊
ganti ke menu manual mode dulu, lalu pencet dan tahan pedal MOD sama tombol edit, sampai tulisan FA muncul di display, lalu pencet tombol write, kemudian saat panduan berkedip2 pencet lagi tombol write nya, ada kok di buku manualnya hanya nggak ada yg pake bahasa indonesia
Blake Lightera oke.. thanks friend 👍👍
Holy shit, you’re an amazing player.
The usb connection whereabout seems to be missing in the review.
We skipped that this round....we decided to focus on the live performance aspect of things...
Great video and you're a killer guitar player!
I'd like to say that you can switch the Manual mode on the ME-80 so that switching to it will keep the settings from the Memory mode, only you can turn each effect on and off. The downside is you'll have to reference what your pedals are set to externally since the knob positions will be meaningless in this mode; but nonetheless, it still gives you that "multiple pedalboards with individual stompbox" thing you like in the G5N.
I own an ME-80 and I've been able to get some killer tones out of it, listening for its strengths and minimizing its weaknesses. I would do the same had I bought a Zoom but I love the physical knob layout of the Boss.
Oh, one more thing: while the Boss signal chain is fixed, the effects actually jump around depending. So if you set the Modulation to Phaser, it will actually move to before the Amp in the chain. Likewise the Boost on FX2 will move to right before the OD pedal. All this can be verified in the Boss software you can use the ME-80 with!
I am not saying the ME-80 is better than the Zoom. What I am saying is that if you realize what it is and does, it's actually pretty excellent. If I had any experience with the G5n, I would likely say the same thing.
im using me 25 about 2 years as my pedal efx. Now using g5n.... no regret at all!!
me80 is better
actually i want to buy me80.. but shop out of stock on that time.. no choice then i bought zoom g5n... compared my experience with my me25.. g5n is much easier to setting and explore.. plus, variety of drum type make it more fun to practice alone.
What riff is he playing at about 16:20 it sounds really familiar
Sounds like a Hendrix style thing. I hear a bit of Sanitarium by Metallica in that.
Robin Trower, Bridge of Sighs...
Thank you for making this!
Was the speaker simulation on the Boss? Just asking. I have the Boss and if you don’t record out the 1/8 jack or have a “dummy” plugged in you won’t get speaker simulation. Makes a big difference. Thanks for the comparison.
@Charthers check out 21:48
I have a boss Eband JS-8 and now buy Zoom G5n, for me G5n is very easy an intuitive to use (i have a ms50g too), but i think the boss patches are better, the factory patches from zoom are not so good. the other important think is boss have more amp simulations.
Do you find the Zoom to be noisier???
Can I write songs title in this processor? Zoom
I cant decide which one schould I buy... Can I play manual mode on G5n just like in me80 ..i think while playing live you need simple set one button clean,one OD ,delay,one chorus/flanger one Hall one wah.Can you set this on g5n?
Yes
Which one is the best brother me 80or)(G5N
Which is more better in terms of sounds?
Great video, thank you. I own the G5n and it is fantastic once you learn how to tweak it
I get a feeling you prefer the sound quality of the Zoom over the Boss. Is the difference huge?
It caught me by surprise....at that point I never really gave Zoom products a chance. So i was pretty impressed by the tones on the unit.
@@KennethKishandave Me too. Which would you say is better though. If you had to.
@@accentontheoff Asking me this in 2021, there are so many more up to date effects from other brands such as Mooer. The GE250 / GE200 is leagues better than the ME80. Me80 is unfortunately outdated. It is still the best selling just because its the least intimidating to use, that's about it. There's another video on the channel comparing the Me80 against the zoom and mooer multieffects
@@KennethKishandave Sure thanks. Will check it out.
I prefer zoom. It’s more clear on the clean tone
After having the pleasure to try both side-to-side, I must say the Zoom really does win this fight. In particular, the G5 overdrives and amp sims are vastly superior to the boss COSM stuff. A major buzzkill for me in regards to the ME80 was that the phrase looper actually deletes the recorded loop when you hit stop -this was not the case for the G5, as well as its excellent 2-button functionality.
For just effects, I think the Boss ME80 does very well however, and I wouldn't discourage people from using it for its effects!
Can i get the patches you used in Zoom g5n sir, will be a great help!
G5n and G3Xn has same the sounding but the thing here is G5n has more control and more pedals to add in pedal chain. G5n has 9 while G3Xn has 7 pedals in chain.
Very informative. Thank you.
Which is more durable?
I am buying processor which one is beter analog or g5n boss im in confused can u help me bro
For your own oponion as you try those effects, which one would you recomend? please answer
Personally when I was in the room, the Zoom sounded better overall....
The two things I loved on the Boss was the Marshall and Bogner type amp sims.
Music Bliss Malaysia Thank you boss.
I love your channel :)