Infinite Sustain on A BUDGET! (Joyo Guitar Sustainer Device Vs. Ebow)

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  • Опубліковано 27 лис 2024

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  • @claudevieaul1465
    @claudevieaul1465 2 роки тому +10

    Excellent comparison - but at least for those not in the US the price difference is quite a bit bigger:
    An Ebow costs €95 at Thomann, and at the Joyo just €55.
    I ordered the latter, and I am very pleased with it! Not just on guitar either - it sounds absolutely amazing on fretless bass....
    The harmonic mode works really natural too: you can get great fifths and thirds harmonics depending on where you hold it, and I love how that sounds particularly on a clean guitar!

  • @mikefiore1058
    @mikefiore1058 4 роки тому +31

    I have always wanted an Ebow and this was a nice comparison. I feel like the Ebow produces a better sound and cleaner sustain, but I think Joyo has the better harmonic mode; much cleaner and with a little delay before the harmonic kicks in. The Ebow harmonic mode kicks on right away and it's a but much. That being said, a $30 difference isn't all that much really and I'd rather spend it on the more tried and true product. I vote Ebow.

    • @revjimbob
      @revjimbob 6 місяців тому

      I thought the Joyo sounded better than the Ebow in harmonic mode in the video.

  • @grumpycat6665
    @grumpycat6665 4 роки тому +97

    How the heck are you not over 100k yet!? You’re easily one of the best guitar tech UA-camrs around .

    • @lijkenkist1
      @lijkenkist1 4 роки тому +2

      I was just gonna say this. How the fuck is Maxwell still getting under 10k views with this kind of quality content... Unfair world

    • @akaiyui9300
      @akaiyui9300 4 роки тому

      As of now, 3k to go.

    • @leoncorbett4553
      @leoncorbett4553 4 роки тому

      121K now

    • @cross3fire
      @cross3fire 3 роки тому

      140k now

    • @FenrirTheMenace
      @FenrirTheMenace 2 роки тому

      174k as of 13Nov2022

  • @AlienFrequency
    @AlienFrequency 10 місяців тому +3

    To me, the harmonic mode on the Joyo actually sounded nicer, less harsh and more pleasant to listen to. This was a very helpful video. Thanks, Danzig…

  • @Neil-Aspinall
    @Neil-Aspinall 4 роки тому +37

    To my ears the Ebow was better especially in Harmonic mode. I have one so I know the sound very well.

    • @SumoRabbitOfDoom
      @SumoRabbitOfDoom 3 роки тому +1

      I actually preferred the harmonic mode on the Joyo. It's not necessarily better, but certainly different. I've been using Fernandes Sustainers for around 20 years.

  • @martinsander7112
    @martinsander7112 4 роки тому +3

    -5 for Danzig reference. JOYO is such a great company. Have many of their products, all quality on a budget. That HB is an AMAZING guitar!!!! Love love love mine!!! (HT EB)

  • @JColt
    @JColt 4 роки тому +12

    First note I hear.. my heart goes.. "Every Rose Has It's Thorn.."

  • @sammathis
    @sammathis 4 роки тому +2

    I appreciate how you focus on affordable gear. Thanks for what you do.

  • @floriankubes2267
    @floriankubes2267 4 роки тому

    Your self-deprecating humor is spot on funny. Thanks for not taking yourself too seriously.

  • @DragonofLimerick
    @DragonofLimerick 4 роки тому +5

    The e-bow was nicer to hear, but I don't have money for either. Love the video!

  • @tomazloureiro
    @tomazloureiro 4 роки тому +10

    Thanks, young John Travolta!

    • @b3astlyify
      @b3astlyify Рік тому

      Fucking creepy how much he looks like him. Looks like he's about to ask you if you ever had mayonnaise on fries

  • @MF9000
    @MF9000 4 роки тому +11

    For the demo, I would have liked to hear them both on a clean guitar sound just to hear the nuance of each. I know they typically aren't used on a clean sound, but I think it would be easier to hear any differences. Just my two cents.

  • @PolishHammer
    @PolishHammer 4 роки тому +43

    lol extra shampoo and conditioner, priceless

  • @tohtorizorro
    @tohtorizorro 4 роки тому +4

    To me, the first part (B-string with normal mode) sounds better with the original E-bow, but there is also a clear volume difference between the gadgets on the video which seems to propose that Joyo makes the string vibrate more and thus the gain and distortion of the amplifier (and maybe the recording microphone) might affect the sound too.
    The funny guy with the awesome silky hair doesn't use the original one on the wound strings but the harmonic mode sounds better by the Joyo in my opinion. So, ideally you'd own both of them I guess. I haven't reached a section of the video that discusses ergonomics but having played with only with the original E-bow, I'd be very interested in trying out the Joyo sustainer.
    The dude is awesome, I subscribed right away after the remark of him spending the money on shampoo and conditioner and thought to myself: youtubers should not remind watchers in every video to subscribe, people will do that when they see something that they really like. Few seconds later the dude fires the sales pitch, dang. The dude's still pretty awesome.

  • @the92project
    @the92project 4 роки тому +22

    1:04 saves 30 dollars, counts 40 dollars :)

    • @coronelsakura2841
      @coronelsakura2841 7 місяців тому

      You are good counting but not understanding english

  • @74dartman13
    @74dartman13 4 роки тому +3

    Cool! I like that all this stuff is coming down to prices that I can afford. I've had a couple of Joyo pedals now for about a year and they're holding up nicely! Thanks for the review!👍😎🎸🎶

  • @ranota1010
    @ranota1010 4 роки тому +2

    Holy moly. What an awesome intro!!!!

  • @soxaboo
    @soxaboo Рік тому +1

    I got the joyo and found it to be great (I tried both) and as you said, £30 better in my pocket 😊😊

  • @yaegtr
    @yaegtr Рік тому

    Man… This is the best video of E-Bow

  • @stuartpierce121
    @stuartpierce121 4 роки тому +3

    Hey! Max! I love you your videos, so helpful and informative! Thank you for your generosity! I think the elbow did seem to have a bit of a softer tone maybe a little "silkier " sound thank you and stay safe!

  • @shawnshipstad8883
    @shawnshipstad8883 4 роки тому

    I agree- they are the same. I remember Ebow from the 70s. . It beats a pedal. Great job-Good luck!!

  • @Steven-u5w
    @Steven-u5w 3 місяці тому

    I think I would prefer to stick with ebow I truly wished I'd never given mine away. It was when I was in the position not playing guitar for personally unable to stay with ebow I would love to cry through chorus. Stacked compressors and the touch of reverb etc. And there's other effects to I can think of Wow, enjoyed the video. Keep up the nice nice work. It's wonderful. Thanks for the inspiration. I must get myself an ebow

  • @hisroyalpimpnesssirisaacal7044
    @hisroyalpimpnesssirisaacal7044 4 роки тому +21

    You put a lot of Ebow grease into that intro!

  • @357bullfrog9
    @357bullfrog9 3 роки тому +1

    I've played for over 50 years and all my life playing I've had a sound in my head that sounds like a human voice. Not singing words but a sound of a voice. I don't know if this makes sense or not but it's like a backup singer doing a melody without saying the words. I've chased that sound a these years

    • @vlntyntheband
      @vlntyntheband 2 роки тому

      I accidentally got this beautiful “singing” sound recently that you might like! It ended up happening when I played a friend’s baritone guitar through my pedalboard and then boss acoustic guitar amp. When I strummed it sounds like a heavenly chorus of almost human voices singing and the main things that seemed to give it that overall sound were the slow decay on my tc electronic flashback delay pedal, a reverb pedal, the reverb and chorus on the amp itself, and (I think more than anything else) the built in harmony setting in the amp set to “unison” with the volume of the harmony all the way up. Because it’s meant for mimicking vocal harmonies, I think that particular effect gave it a more voice like quality that really surprised me! If you’re interested, I could try to get a short video sometime to share what it sounds like on my acoustic guitar.

    • @vlntyntheband
      @vlntyntheband 2 роки тому

      Maybe finding a way to run guitar through a good vocal harmony pedal would get you closer to what you’re thinking?

  • @longsnapper5381
    @longsnapper5381 Рік тому

    Ordered an eBow last night on Amazon and woke up today to your video. Thanks UA-cam. I was able to get the eBow for $39 using rewards due on a credit card or I would've cancelled the eBow for the Joyo in a heartbeat. Thanks for making pertinent videos for us. You have a new subscriber.

  • @shma1israel
    @shma1israel 4 роки тому +2

    Robert Fripp on David Bowie's 'Heroes'. Nuff said.

  • @blastofo
    @blastofo 2 роки тому +2

    This looks like it would be perfect for drone type music too. And I heard it works for bass too.

  • @WalterSawan
    @WalterSawan 6 місяців тому

    I live in Canada. I just ordered the joyo version on Amazon for $80 CAD. The Ebow is $230 CAD where I am. So, definitely a considerable savings!

  • @manco828
    @manco828 Рік тому +1

    Nigel Tufnel approves.

  • @johnhanover2229
    @johnhanover2229 5 місяців тому

    Still experimenting with my ebow, I have external jacks and smaller pickups on ukuleles. Using magnetic tape and magnets themselves to bounce that signal. I have three pedals from Joyo they are awesome.

  • @maineguitarists
    @maineguitarists 2 роки тому +2

    You arte not only talented at guitar and improvising but have cool hair too! I love how you give real opinions on cheap guitars and expensive ones. This is a great video also. I decided to go with the Ebow because of this as i'm using it on a magnatone varsity lap steel guitar. I did think the joyo was thinner and although very cool, ebow is the show. Fatter, warmer. I'm an old dude now so i guess i need that during the cold Winters in Maine. MT

  • @michaelmattson3515
    @michaelmattson3515 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the show. I have two Ebow’s. One black no over harmonic a grey one with over harmonic dual switch. Plus a Fernandes sustainer guitar. Now I’m looking at the Freqout pedal made by Digitech.

  • @thegrimreefer3300
    @thegrimreefer3300 4 роки тому +2

    There's also the TC Electronic AEON. Amazon has if for $70 as well. I know that EBow users have said that it's harder to use. But I don't know if that's because it's different and they are used to the EBow, or if it's actually harder to use. I haven't used either, so I don't know.

  • @Dano-uf8ys
    @Dano-uf8ys 4 роки тому +15

    Why hasn't someone created a 6 string eBow sustain?
    That's what I want.

    • @gtrdrumsplayerduarte
      @gtrdrumsplayerduarte 3 роки тому +12

      Fernandes Sustainer Pickup? Or the sustainiac.

    • @Cam_B
      @Cam_B 3 роки тому +1

      Freeze pedal

    • @TheBaconWizard
      @TheBaconWizard 2 роки тому

      @@Cam_B Is nothing whatsoever like an ebow, in any way.

    • @Cam_B
      @Cam_B 2 роки тому

      @@TheBaconWizardok, 5 months later…except it sustains as does an ebow. Try one.

    • @TheBaconWizard
      @TheBaconWizard 2 роки тому

      @@Cam_B I own one. It's not even close.

  • @scottbembry5255
    @scottbembry5255 4 роки тому +1

    If you ever see BOC do Don’t Fear the Reaper live, Bloom sneaks in with the Ebow at the end Buck’s solo for big sustained note. Buck goes back to intro/verse riff. A cowbell is always there of course. In demo the Ebow had a more clean and mellow sound

  • @jasonjohnson4170
    @jasonjohnson4170 4 роки тому +11

    Somebody needs to create one that straps onto the palm of your hand or one of your fingers so that you could be free to pick the string as well with a guitar pick. That way you can have the versatility that exists with an installed Fernandez or sustainiac

    • @PooNinja
      @PooNinja 4 роки тому +1

      That’s what I was thinking 👍🏽🤘🏽

    • @zepp3lin
      @zepp3lin 4 роки тому +1

      Or just install a Sustainiac.

    • @jasonjohnson4170
      @jasonjohnson4170 4 роки тому

      @@zepp3lin yeah the point was kind of geared toward not having to modify the guitar we're spending a lot of money

  • @AlekVila
    @AlekVila 2 роки тому +1

    Great video! Can you tell us about the construction? Does the battery compartment and door differ significantly?

  • @JimWitschey
    @JimWitschey 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for the comparison, appreciate it!

  • @podoz
    @podoz Рік тому +1

    i've read many of your comments and everyone is avoiding the most important question, which shampoo and conditioner do you use?

  • @mehmetaliislamturk254
    @mehmetaliislamturk254 3 роки тому +1

    Joyo
    I will buy.

  • @andershine
    @andershine 4 роки тому +4

    Okay, Danzig. Great vid!

  • @mandiferrer
    @mandiferrer 4 роки тому +1

    Brian May was the one who first used the E-bow on "Love of My Life" in 1975

  • @MinivanMegafun100
    @MinivanMegafun100 4 роки тому +2

    First video I've watched of yours. I got a couple laughs ("I'm just going to spend it on shampoo and conditioner.") Good video. I did think the Ebow sounded a bit softer on standard mode than the Joyo.

  • @OHomemQueSonha
    @OHomemQueSonha Рік тому

    Dude, nice video. Tanx for sharing such knowledge

  • @TheMegrims
    @TheMegrims 6 місяців тому

    I actually liked the Joyo better, the Ebow has the mellow, soft violin tone that it’s famous for but I liked the cicada tone on the Joyo, I also think you could get the same mellow sound by wheeling back on your tone knob or positioning the Joyo further away from the top of the pickup. I think it’ll be a great addition for anyone that owns a Ravish Sitar pedal and is into Indian ragas and drones.

  • @ethancheng1595
    @ethancheng1595 4 роки тому +3

    keep in mind though, we have been hearing music made with the ebow for decades. in many ways we've been conditioned or "taught" to prefer the ebow sound. For me, as long as it's not functionally broken like the tc electronics aeon, a player can make music with the Joyo with a different set of aesthetics that's not necessary identical with the ebow.

  • @RocktCityTim
    @RocktCityTim 4 роки тому +6

    Still have my original eBow from the early 80s. Take a look at Big Country's "In a Big Country" for some of the first use of the eBow.

  • @Authorityoneverything
    @Authorityoneverything Рік тому +1

    The problem usually is that the shape isn't a comfortable thing to hold player in a guitar I bought one I broke on purpose because it was so frustrating trying to get sustain going from string to string it would buzz the string and fuck there goes that take recording. Ebow looks the most comfortable to hold playing a guitar.

  • @BushBumperBaker
    @BushBumperBaker 3 роки тому +1

    I've heard several people say the Joyo has higher attack, so I don't think it's your imagination.

  • @robertbuck7186
    @robertbuck7186 Рік тому

    I like the ebow sound you could tell that their was a difference in the let's say smoothness of it...

  • @Ronbob59
    @Ronbob59 4 роки тому +43

    I think the Ebow sounded better. Smoother tones, easier on the ears. The other seemed harsh.... Ron

  • @ramzesrama8391
    @ramzesrama8391 4 роки тому +11

    down the drain joke made me laugh more than it should 😅

  • @davidcharles-williams8575
    @davidcharles-williams8575 2 роки тому

    Bang on excellent review.

  • @t871
    @t871 3 роки тому +5

    I think the ebow had a better tone on the harmonics setting.

  • @Brokeninc
    @Brokeninc 3 роки тому

    I have a Sound Stone and I can't tell if it's crap or if I'm crap... lol So I'm looking into others to see. Thank you for making this vid.

  • @gabrielferrazdesantana8333
    @gabrielferrazdesantana8333 4 роки тому +11

    Danzig! -5 lol

  • @hoosierdaddy2308
    @hoosierdaddy2308 4 роки тому

    Great video. I'm loving that HB guitar too.. killer looking tele copy..
    Here in Indiana the sustainer is made. Used to be called Maniac music I believe. The original sustainer in the Kramer guitars back in the day. Still in Indianapolis

  • @sebjulien3
    @sebjulien3 4 роки тому +1

    When JOYO release this device, I commented on the same day that it was 20$ more than the real thing and asking them what are they now smoking (because even their amp are a lot more expensive now). It seem they adjusted the price of this one at least.

  • @hartleyroadmusic
    @hartleyroadmusic 4 роки тому +8

    Love my Ebow! Doesn't get much use, but it's a cool device when you need that infinite sustain effect.
    I used it on my Linkin Park Iridescent acoustic cover. Check it out!

  • @goodtunes9574
    @goodtunes9574 4 роки тому +4

    You have a great sense of humor. I have an eBow from the 80’s, a very cool device. The Joyo seems legit.

  • @sumitsolomon6877
    @sumitsolomon6877 8 місяців тому

    You had me at the Shampoo and conditioner. 😀

  • @micPfleAmig
    @micPfleAmig 2 роки тому

    This is really cool...nice for ambience tune...

  • @vikingmetaldragon
    @vikingmetaldragon 3 роки тому +1

    I've had an ebow for about 15 years. Fun to tamper with, always felt very restrictive. I couldn't stand isolating to one string in order to hold the vibration sustain effect.

    • @kevone-eo6pq
      @kevone-eo6pq Рік тому

      you can switch strings with practice.

  • @zepp3lin
    @zepp3lin 4 роки тому +4

    I don't need an e bow or the joyo version, just a hassle when you need it. I used a sustainiac and it sounded way awesome and convenient.

  • @ashikurrahamankhan5688
    @ashikurrahamankhan5688 4 роки тому

    It'll sound super emotional on a fretless guitar playing some slide stuffs.thank u man❤

  • @In-Ear-Studio
    @In-Ear-Studio 4 роки тому

    Nice review! I’ve been searching and I can’t find, how can i have a guitar chord sound infinite or stable just with a single strumming. What do you suggest? This is just for a single string it seems :)

    • @GuitarMAXMusic
      @GuitarMAXMusic  4 роки тому +1

      Yes, this really only works on single strings, for chords you need something like a Sustainiac pickup, but that has to be installed into the guitar.

  • @helcat3567
    @helcat3567 4 роки тому

    Hi Max that's an interesting little device. Forgive my ignorance but I have never seen them befor. I think it's cool. for me the white one sounded better than the gray one. take care from your pal Helcat in Australia.

  • @MedalionDS9
    @MedalionDS9 4 місяці тому

    Can hear the U2 influence in the playing... some Love is Blindness

  • @waylong25
    @waylong25 Рік тому

    ...That's -5 points for the Danzig reference. C'mon, getcha head in the game! Just messin Max, this is a sweet device!

  • @rcameron4091
    @rcameron4091 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for the vid . Subscribed . Hair looks good . LOL

  • @benheaver4332
    @benheaver4332 4 роки тому +1

    Shout out to Danzig ,, great playing ,,🤘great demo

  • @gotopcpanik
    @gotopcpanik 4 роки тому

    Got mine, but no matter what I try, the JoYo Ebow doesn't work on the high E string for me. Do you have a tips? A new battery is inside.

  • @CubensisRecords
    @CubensisRecords 4 роки тому

    What if you are using a clean tone, is it possible to sustain chords??

    • @GuitarMAXMusic
      @GuitarMAXMusic  4 роки тому +1

      Not really... this device only sustains one string at a time. You could move it around to different strings and kind of sustain one, then the other, and they might ring together, but it wouldn't be an even full chord.

  • @ethnicalbert
    @ethnicalbert 2 роки тому

    The ebow has more bass? is what it sounds like? I prefer it

  • @dkehrerproductions
    @dkehrerproductions 4 роки тому

    Ebows are cool .I had one back in the 90s ,I could not put it down .

  • @charlesrubitschung7592
    @charlesrubitschung7592 4 роки тому +1

    They both sound the same but Joyo did make their Sustainer sound so good it works great

  • @muchachogrande2019
    @muchachogrande2019 2 роки тому +1

    Does Phil Collen use an actual e-bow? I always thought he used a built in sustainer system, or I know he has one in more than a few of his guitars at least.

    • @GuitarMAXMusic
      @GuitarMAXMusic  2 роки тому +1

      I believe he used an E-bow on the original recordings but now he uses a sustainer system for live playing.

    • @muchachogrande2019
      @muchachogrande2019 2 роки тому

      @@GuitarMAXMusic aaaw that'd make sense for sure. I love Phil's journey with gear over the years and how different it is compared to other guys as they've aged.
      Like he seems to prefer hotter and hotter pickups the older he gets, hasn't moved away from his ridiculous heavy strings, and then he's like hey I'm gonna start using sheet metal guitar picks 😆.

  • @dmatzo
    @dmatzo 4 роки тому

    I have an ebow. I'd say I got it new in the 90's. It has no "harmonic" switch/option. I've always wondered about this a little. I doubt I'm missing much...

  • @riffdigger2133
    @riffdigger2133 4 роки тому

    Would have liked to hear the melody of the eBow played thru a Wah Wah pedal just for fun. I like the appearance of my pewter eBow although it is a bit heavy. Is it worth $30 more? Probably not. I was impressed that they did include a double set of batteries and a black velvet purse. I'm glad there is brand competition.

  • @danepaulstewart8464
    @danepaulstewart8464 3 роки тому +1

    I had to listen three times to be sure...
    I was surprised to find that I prefer the Joyo by a good margin.
    It all depends on the sound you’re after.

  • @vortex4344
    @vortex4344 4 роки тому

    Love your content man keep the content coming ❤

  • @Vengeance0117
    @Vengeance0117 4 роки тому

    Can you do a video on your gym routine and hair washing routine? Low key we wanna see Max.

  • @theelodgeovkeku
    @theelodgeovkeku Рік тому

    that intro ❤

  • @patricelecanu6150
    @patricelecanu6150 4 роки тому

    hello buddy thank you for your work your are a great musician

  • @ZakarooNetwork
    @ZakarooNetwork 2 роки тому

    Are you Used Brand New Batteries from the same Package for Both?

  • @IgorHatesEverything
    @IgorHatesEverything 4 роки тому

    Subscribed. This is the first time I've come across your reviews, and you do very good work. Good playing, no pointless talking, no stupid jokes. Just a succinct and useful review.

  • @JesseLeeKing
    @JesseLeeKing 3 роки тому

    Do you prefer the sustainiac or the ebow or joyous? I've been wanting that blue sun valley super shredder u got I was gonna buy it a couple times but I like the lever switch and wasn't sure about its toggle switch.

    • @JesseLeeKing
      @JesseLeeKing 3 роки тому

      I'm just not sure how much I'd actually use it...

  • @stu-j
    @stu-j 4 роки тому

    How you finding the jumbo frets on the fusion? Stunning guitar but the frets felt wrong.

  • @eduardoalarcon6843
    @eduardoalarcon6843 4 роки тому

    Thanks!

  • @borjaavila2497
    @borjaavila2497 2 роки тому +1

    They both sound very similar but I found ebow smoother than the joyo…The question is why did not nobody create a multi sustainer for the six strings of the guitar at the same time and with the option of muting by clicking on a tiny button?

  • @kurtphipps7823
    @kurtphipps7823 4 роки тому

    Cool sounds

  • @markfanelli5293
    @markfanelli5293 11 місяців тому

    I was really hoping to like the Joyo better as im on the budget. But I don't think anything beats the tone of the EBow Harmonic Mode

  • @stefanhansen5882
    @stefanhansen5882 3 роки тому

    How about battery life? Thanks!

  • @craigkierulff
    @craigkierulff 4 роки тому +1

    Shampoo and conditioner 🤣🤣 well played sir....

  • @ZakarooNetwork
    @ZakarooNetwork 2 роки тому

    Does it Work on Acoustic Guitar? or Do you Need a Pickup to interact with?

    • @GuitarMAXMusic
      @GuitarMAXMusic  2 роки тому

      It works with acoustic as long as it has metal strings. Nylon strings won't work.

  • @johnlopez3996
    @johnlopez3996 4 роки тому

    The Edge used a guitar with an infinite sustain for "With of Without You". Michael Brook designed it.

  • @ron4L_34
    @ron4L_34 4 роки тому

    I love your videos ,, you have real talent ,, the terminator playing a guitar lol ,,I think you are the best guitar player in my lifetime that I have ever witnessed,, you are amazing,, I’m your biggest fan

  • @DrCristaras
    @DrCristaras 4 роки тому +1

    Minus 5 points for the Danzig reference. Still laughed though :P

  • @cowboyjr9257
    @cowboyjr9257 4 роки тому +1

    You should review the Fender lt-25 modeling amplifier

  • @GTA_500
    @GTA_500 4 роки тому

    another question I want to get a Harley Benton 4 X 12 cab is a joyo zombie head usable on the 4 x 12 cab