Why Slow Fashion Isn't Size Inclusive
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- Ethical and sustainable plus size clothing is unfortunately lacking and not offered by many brands. So let's chat more about why that is and also hear from Anne Mulaire about how she expanded her eponymous brand's size range to 6X!
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00:00 Intro
01:17 No Demand?
02:50 Manufacturing Issues
04:48 How Anne Mulaire Expanded their Size Range
09:22 Takeaways & What to Do
11:05 Conclusion
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I've also seen "size washing" where brands claim they are inclusive, but only have 1 or 2 items in the larger size, and even those are always out of stock. nuts when some lines top out at a US 10 and call it a XXL. amen to the lack of pattern grading. as a US 16, my boobs are proportional, but very few clothes are.
In NZ, we have two major companies that make down outerwear and they have both avoided making larger sizes until now. One has gone for it wholeheartedly, while the other maintains its attitude of not wanting larger people to wear their branding. More fool them.
I was going to add my 2cents but everyone else has already said it. I am fortunate in that my wonderful grandmother taught me to sew. So...if I really want something like tailored trousers or a wonderful, tailored wool coat for the freezing winter we are having in Alberta Canada right now...I can make them. A gift that is priceless.
I was a plus size until recently and to be honest finding any clothes was difficult not just sustainable brands. It was also really upsetting when brands claimed to be plus sized but there was nothing that fitted an XXL. Hopefully more brands will start to be inclusive.
Pity. Thierry Muggler had a few creations for plus size in 90s'. Brand was also age inclusive. Models don't have to be a canon of beauty in every sense. They're to show that well mached clothes can improve your looks
I completely agree! My personal problem, however, is often not so much the size range but rather the boxy styles that sustainable brands often carry. This is flattering for someone with less curves, but on me, their styles quickly look like potato sacks. Not everyone has the same body type, and i think we need more sustainable brands or collections that cover more tailored clothes that actually emphasize the female figure (e.g., complement the waist)
I agree. Just look at Thierry Muggler in 90s' pretty designs and he had some for chubby people. Brand was also age inclusive. Though I admit that if a fat person don't have curves but legs like elephant it is hard to hide imperfections. And you know models aren't always of divine beauty and don't have to they are to show you that well matched clothes can improve your look
I'd like to see more adjustable clothing that can fit a variety of bodies. As a plus sized middle aged person I don't think most sustainable brands really want me in their clothes. I usually buy second hand or something good quality new which will last a long time.
I'm very sorry to hear you feel excluded. But secondhand and good quality are excellent ways to shop sustainably! 💚
I hate to tell you but a 70-inch tape measure isn't "for everyone". When I had a custom clothing business for large size women, I used a quilting tape measure that went to 120 inches. Now THAT was for everyone!
Sizing is so bad in sustainable brands, always so small. And my fit issue is that I am about a size 10-12 BUT I’m only 5’3”. So when I get any garment large enough to fit around my larger areas then everything gets too long……sleeves, length of the body, pant legs, rise, v- necks wayyyy too low and on and on. I ended up buying a sewing machine because I have to alter/hem absolutely every item I purchase. Petite sizing would be a dream come true.
Excellent video! So exciting to see this is Canadian content as well. Companies not only need to design larger sizes but we need colour as well. I see pretty tops and dresses in size 0s and 2s but the manufacturers want to dress plus size women in the dullest and drabbest colours imaginable or else it is like they went to the far corner of some fabric warehouse to get the mistints and unsellable fabric leftovers. Why shouldn't plus size women have pretty colours and feminine details on our clothing?
And why do manufactures seem surprised about doing alterations on women's clothing when it is standard practice to adjust and tailor men's wear? This is definitely a part of the clothing market that needs to be addressed. Thank you for sharing! :)
My issue is not so much about the size inclusivity but around the fabrics used. I would like more structured materials. I don't want to wear sweats everyday.
They are harder to find, but a lot of brands use woven and more structured fabrics. Christy Dawn, Mata Traders, Amour Vert, Ace & Jig, People Tree, Aliya Wanek, Son de flor, Tradlands, and Whimsy + Row are some that come to mind. Is there a specific style/type of clothing you're looking for?
@@MyGreenCloset Thanks so much for the brands recommendations some I have never heard of. I am not looking for any at the moment. I am trying a no buy for a while.
As someone that lives in France and has a very difficult time finding plus sized more fitted clothing, I personally dont think Son de Flor (since they're a European brand) doesn't do very plus sized clothing. The label may say XXL but if you look at the measurements, they are doing an XXL based off of sewing patterns in my opinion, which run much much smaller than off the rack XXL. When I compare the measurements, an off the rack XXL in Europe is about a size 50-52 (I think 18-20 in US sizing), but Son de Flor XXL is closer to a 44-46 EU sizing, good if you're a bit curvy and plump, but not a true meat and bones plus size. There is another brand that's similar to Son de Flor that's based out of Paris called Voriagh (though a bit out of my price range) and their sizing is the same situation. Voriagh used to do custom sizing but they don't anymore since their product range has expanded and they've become more international.
One problem I've encountered as a US L is brands that say they go up to L or XL but their size chart runs small. Once I wanted this shirt that was available up to XL. According to the measurements, the XL would fit me, but be fitted, and I wanted it oversized. So I was out of luck.
I've also seen some places (usually individual designers on Etsy) charge more for larger sizes. On the one hand, I get it, more fabric = more $$, but it's not fair to customers.
A lot of big brands priced plus-sizes higher than straight sizes for a few years there. They must've gotten too much pushback for it, though, because most have fixed that issue. They really have no excuse because they order fabric in such large quantities, it costs them pennies to make larger sizes.
With small designers, I don't have as much of a problem with it... as long as every size is a different price, not just the plus-sizes. I still don't think it's right exactly, but I can at least understand the reasoning.
Shout out to the sustainable US brand Wray NYC-not only are they size inclusive but the models they use represent the full range of their clothing line.
I’m 5ft and a U.K. 12-14 (US 8-10) and my biggest issue has been not the sizing but the designs. The slow fashion brands I’ve come across seem to make mostly super casual or oversize and I end looking like I’m wearing a sack and just look squat and round. Even if I go down 2-3 sizes. I look best in tailored styles as opposed to super casual, in the super casual I look like a child not an adult woman or the ‘smarter’ design is so twee I look like a doll.
I’ve tried numerous and expend for my budget blazers from slow fashion brands and they all to a one looked awful in comparison to my Zara or Mango ones. Nor has the fabric quality proven itself to be better with slow fashion purchases.
For my budget and for that of many of my friends slow fashion companies (which are usually 2-3 times the price of regular brands), not only have to have more variety in their aesthetics (they’re all variations on the same theme) but the quality has to outweigh the regular offering to justify that spend.
As much as I wish to support slow fashion for environmental and ethical reasons, I haven’t felt catered to at all.
I also foresee a very hard time to come for slow fashion brands in the U.K. in the immediate future as people here are extremely worried about paying for essentials that luxuries like slow fashion (aka quite expensive clothing) are going to struggle to survive the crisis.
This is a really good point about the simple sloppy styles!
it's hard to wear sustainable clothes when your big. Thanks for touching on this. Also thrifting is pretty much impossible.
especially after all the "flippers" buying the larger sizes to use as fabric to make something else. the variety in sizing also means you have to take a tape measure and not rely on labelling.
I buy most of my clothes second hand, through eBay and ThredUp. I'm 2X.
I don’t have the same challenges many do as I’m a US L-XL but midsize in North America is plus size in Europe, where I currently live. I have to shop online a lot but I hesitate to order anything from outside the EU (unless it’s DDP) because of the hassle if it doesn’t fit. Often size charts and even garment measurements provided can be off from what I actually receive.
I hear you loud and clearly. Same thing with 2nd hand plus size sustainable clothes. Which is kinda logical. Such a shame.
I'm not sure about other countries but many of the German brands I tried such as ArmedAngels, Jan n' June, Lovjoi, Living Crafts, and Recolution go up to XL. But it's definitely not as common in Europe and sizing can vary a lot from brand to brand. If the brand has incorrect size charts though, they should exchange/return the item at no cost to you!
@@MyGreenCloset ArmedAngels goes to XXL now in a lot of their line! I do like their stuff though I also find their sizing inconsistent unfortunately
There are a couple of others worth checking out, for example Hess Natur, who go up to size 48/4XL
I am a tall woman and it is difficult for me to find pants. I buy from the U.K. based brand Seasalt. They are very inclusive with Tall, petite and plus size options. It would be nice to have more choices, but Seasalt is pretty big now and perhaps can afford the extra cost. If anyone knows of another sustainable, ethical brand that offers tall options let me know !
Unfortunately the only brands I know of are based in North America - Taylor Tall and Anne Mulaire which can do customized lengths.
Oh! And there's also Dressarte www.dressarteparis.com/ based in Paris which does fully customized clothing
In german speaking europe I have not found a single sustainable brand that is size inclusive. Very frustrating! Also the clothes are very sporty, which is not my style.
Ewa Minge is an ethical brand that is size inclusive. It is a Polish brand. But since Poland is neighbouring Germany you should have no issues with transport
With sizing, something I wasn't mentally prepared for was the 20 pounds my body would absorb during the Panda. Working it off slowly, but that size jump made it difficult to find tops that would look flattering as a more fitted top, but also offered a lovely slightly oversized look for when I am back to my normal weight. boxy tees and sweaters can only go so far lol
And pants! Pants are not made for curvy women. Not jeans, not leggings (too tight in the thigh, too loose everywhere else), not trousers. And shorts... don't get me started. They may fit great in the waist but the hips are not having it. I love my shorts from Toad & Co. Pants are.. iffy.
I feel you with adjusting to weight gain and also pants! I basically stick to stretchy pants from sustainable brands. Any others I'll usually get secondhand where I can try a lot on or make them myself. Pants are so tough!
I would be more interested if the items sustainable companies sold actually looked good and were in natural fibers. Even the regular companies that sell plus sizes typically use fabrics that are plastic. I don't care if it uses off cuts from some other company or uses recycled plastics, I don't want to wear plastic. It is hot and doesn't breathe, which plus size people need even more than a smaller person. I found a company once that sold stuff in my size, and the shirts had pockets that literally went all the way down the front of the shirt. I am big busted, so I wouldn't want pockets on the bust anyway. Lol. Will definitely check out this company.
Ewa Minge is an ethical brand that makes clothes only out of natural fibers
Thank you so much for making this video! I’m going to be trying the clothing from this website. This is the first sustainable clothing in my size I have seen!
Glad it was helpful! And I also have a roundup of over 70 slow fashion brands that offer plus sizing on my website: mygreencloset.com/plus-size-ethical-fashion/
Melow par Melissa Bolduc is also offering plus size clothes she’s based in Montreal and has very flattering pieces.
Thank you for sharing about this wonderful Canadian brand!
great video and your hair looks so healthy!
Thank you!
A very interesting video! 😍😍😍
Do you deliver internationally within Europe?
We need more conversations about this. Will a size 3 want the same thing as an xxl? Jeans yes but a lot of other things no. It can be worked out to make it profitable and inclusive.
Is the Anne Mulaire website down right now for anyone else? I'm not able to load it.
A very relevant and excellent conversation!
Seems to be fine now, is it working for you?
@@MyGreenCloset I'm getting a server issue even on my phone. I'll keep trying. Good to know it's working for others!
In Romania it's really dificult to find sustainable slow fashion...
Do you know LOUDBODIES? They're from Romania and amazing! That's the only brand I know of off the top of my head but there are also some great EU-based brands.
@@MyGreenCloset no, i haven't heard of them. I will check them out! Thank you sooo much! Hugs!