I agree with Colin sometimes and sometimes I disagree but this was the worst take ever. If I am not mistaken, Serbia lost. Jokic can play his game for Serbia. Embiid is not use to this Lebron system they are running. Embiid is missing shots he makes all day long; hence, why he has been the leading scorer for the past 3 years. The whole USA team is centered around Lebron so that he shines because he is forever chasing MJ for the GOAT status but it won't happen. What they are running is not Embiid's game and they also better hope it wins them the gold. They didn't even play Tatum and they left Brown off the roster because this is all about Lebron. It is for Lebron, Steph and KD to look good. I guess for their last time.
He falls on purpose to protect his feet and knees. How to people not know this by now. If you say he’s injured all the time imagine if he didn’t take precautionary measures.
Remember when people would argue that Harden was better than Kobe and Wade? Then the refs stopped giving Harden every single call he immediately stopped being a top 10 player. I can’t wait for that to happen to embiid
Taytum criticism is really starting to get out of hand. You can argue that he’s not top two on the team at any of the attributes Colin mentioned, but he’s upper half at all of them and probably one of the most well rounded players on the team
Will he go out there and guard speedy players like how Holiday and White do every night tho. There’s a difference of what you could be good at vs what someone is a professional at doing specifically.
I think the problem with Tatum is that because it's "his team" and for some insane reason has had a push for being the face of the league he's looked at the same way we look truly great players like Kobe, Iverson, LeBron, or Steph when he's really on that next tier down with guys like Klay, Carmelo, or Jaylen Brown. No matter how good we recognize that they are at what they are good at, there's degrees of separation between them and the true legends. Tatum just isn't on that level and when debated against the opinions that he is, any criticism comes off as hate. If Jrue Holiday doesn't get any minutes nobody cares. We understand. But Tatum doesn't and it's a topic. It wouldn't be a topic if he were as old Steph, LeBron, or KD but he's not. He's just a guy.
I think the biggest stat from yesterday was Serbia was minus 26 in the 9 minutes Jokic didn't play. With him on the floor, Serbia was even with the US.
I hate the media more than I dislike Embiid . He deserved his mvp and I’m not a fan at all , could jokic have won it ? Yes so could many other runner up in mvp race history
@@curtiszyr embid didn’t deserve that mvp in fact there was no debate who was better kp went on tv and made it a racial thing that’s the only reason embid won
He never said he wasn’t good imo he said wasn’t top 5 and I agree he’s playing behind bron and kd what does he do better then either one of them plus they were hot JT is great but let’s be real team USA can win the medal with or without him
@@ituoiocchisudeme6606 Joel is never healthy by the time they get to the playoffs, its as simple as that. Even if he is "back" his stamia is not what it is mid season when he is healthy. This past season he told the team even, that he was not able to go into the 4th quarter, but they couldnt take him out because his +/- was insane when he was off hte floor the 76ers got destroyed vs the Knicks
He was -20 at some point. He was playing when they went down early, and then when he came back, the lead USA had shrank to mid-single digits. His minutes were VERY bad for the team.
Embiid was absolutely trash against Serbia, thank God for KD and LeBron. Embiid had 3 turnovers with 3 missed free throws with 2 for 5 FG he needs to be benched ASAP
Colin has a point. The Celtics Top 5 are by far the best in the NBA and perfectly compliment each other. Brad Stevens built the perfect roster except for KP is made of glass. JT is the best player though
Joel Embiid should be playing for his own African country. Not trying to stat pad with the USA team. He is way over rated. David Robinson would destroy Embiid.
Jokic gets more calls, and no calls from refs than anybody else. Jokic can go through you , push out of the way, no calls. When it comes to refs in NBA, Jokic is the king of refs favoritism.
Ya Embiid gets way more free throws and ridiculous calls than Jokic. That's just a fact. Embiid and Sga are sickening to watch due to how dependent they.are.on getting calls.
This is quite unfair . Jokic still the focal point of offense for Serbia just like on the nuggets . It’s different for embiid on team USA and also I don’t think he is acclimated to fiba play like jokic and other players have been. Embiid is not even my top 5 favorite player but damn the media is shredding him for nothing
The fact that he was all NBA first team won the championship and lead his team in points and other categories throughout the playoffs and you're calling this man lesser than what he is I swear the hate for Jason Tatum has gone out of control
@@logicalbrother look at his play making ability or we just look for catch and shoot players now. Look at his assist numbers and rebounds. Look at his defence. But we're here just looking at shooting percentages.
he is not a superstar....we got to face it....his shooting was awful this tear in the playoffs....he needs 5 all stars to win a chip....on his own he is a choker!
Embiid cried for his MVP and finally won it. Fact of the matter is that he barely shows up in the playoffs and is always injured. Hes 30 now and I doubt he’s going to be any healthier than before. I’d give it a year or two before his contract becomes one of the worst in the league. Paired with “Playoff P” it’s fairly obvious what’ll happen in the playoffs this year. Both will either be injured, ramping up or underperforming.
Embiid might actually be 35 years old. Africans and Dominicans always lie about their age. I heard rumors that Olajuwon was 5 years older than his listed age.
Cowherd and every other TV show just says things for content and to get people talking about it. They literally say something about a player and a few days later flip it to the exact opposite without any explanation. I can't believe people still don't get this
The most overhyped over talked about player is EASILY Lebron but let's all just follow the narratives and pretend that's not true like good little sheep
Let get this straight, the USA basket association begged Embiid to play for the USA. One game later, you guys are calling him out. Serbia team is built around Jokic, just like the sixers game is built around Embiid, so stop the nonsense.
That's what I'm saying. FIBA is just different. aLSO , lEBRON HAS THE BALL I HIS HANDS, so he dictates what is going on offensive. All sixers fans understand that in order to beat the DDenver Nuggets , you must make Jokic work on both ends of the floor. Well in the last three games in Philly , Joel dominates that guy. So for Colin to say " it's not even close after yesterday " is wild but I understand Colin is not a real basketball. guy.
Embiid is not as good a fit on this team AD and Bam who have more of a defensive mindset are better fits. Joelle is defensive minded too but he expects the ball way more on offense and that's just not gonna happen with Bron KD Curry Edwards etc
Embiid is 21ppg on 49%TS in playoffs elimination games...gets panic attack every time 4th quarter come...never been out of the 2nd round in the Leastern conference...LOL... He ain't no superstar when the serious basketball is being played and don't get easy free throws(Fiba and deep playoffs)
Tatum “isn’t top 5” yet has been All NBA First team 3 times. “You saw this in the ECF, and Finals,”yet he led his team in PTS, RBS, and AST in both of those series on route to a championship. LOL. What a lazy take.
Because of positions. Make your list, he’s not top 5. He’s 10/12 at worst but def not top 5 Joker Greek Freak SGA AD Ant Luka Wemby Curry Joel KD Book JB JT I’m sure I’m missing some guys too but off the top of my head
@@michaelvasquez2726 Id take him over everyone excpet jokic giannis luka, hes in same tier as SGA and Embiid imo maybe lebron and kd in that tier too. Also if u think JB > JT then u think iggy > steph and maxwell > larry bird
Jayson Tatum is not top 5. He literally said Tatum is probably top 10, how is him not being top 5 an overstatement. Anyone who watched the Finals knows D White, Brown, and Holiday were far more efficient on Offensive and Defense. Tatum did rebound and pass better to make up for his struggles.
@@jslayer45I thought dropping the most points in a game 7 last year and doing what he did in an elimination Game 6 after struggling the first 42 minutes would shut that up. Then I thought his Championshiop clinching performance would. It’s never going to happen, it’s ok though
The only two players in his ENTIRE CAREER who have a negative net rating when paired with Jokic: Emmanuel Mudiay and Facundo Campazzo. That's it. Every single other player he has ever played with has had a positive net rating paired with him.
I agree that Magic, Jokic, and LeBron are 3 of the most effective team helper players in history. But there are others that were equally as lethal. These include Bird, Nash, CP3 and Isiah Thomas. All extremely efficient at scoring and getting teammates involved. Nash is the only one without a championship, but he does have 2 MVPs. It is never said and should definitely be noted that in his prime, Nash experienced fixed game calling from refs especially vs the Lakers. The Blazers and Kings also had holes put in their ships by these same refs vs the Lakers. Oh... and I think we are forgetting Doncic.
They all run the Point! This make your team better criticism of shooters/scorers started with Nash and should not be considered the same with players that don't run Point. The media wanted to give him the MVP over Shaq, Kobe, and others. Before Nash, true Points were all floor generals whose job was to make the offense run better, be the 2nd most efficient scorers, emergency, and 2nd or even 3rd scoring options. Next thing you know "everybody" especially the best players, wanted to run the point. Lebron came into the league at Point Forward, and he and position-less basketball took over the league.
Ive never thought of it this way... but I can't agree more with Colin here on Tatum is B+ at most in every aspect of the game. He might have overall higher skillset than a lot of other plyers, but there's not a single thing you can pinpoint on Tatum and say he is A/A+ in it. (Defense, offense, 3pt, mentality, etc) this doesnt take away from the fact he is a very good player
@@tyriantaylor711 that's true - but that matters less when it is a team of STACKED players. you have players who might have deficiencies, but they are A/A+ in 3 other things. so you put that player next to another one who is A+ in the deficiency of the other one. e.g. Steph is A+ in shooting, handling, court spread, passing. But is a C at best on defense. That why you bring Drue who is A+ on defense, court spread, game mindset but has deficiencies on scoring etc (He is still a solid B in that regard)
Man this is silly... Tatum has been the best player on a championship level team for years...played meaningful basketball since entering the league. Hes swept Durant in recent years. Holiday and white are role players on his team Hes all nba. Been better at devin booker at every point in their careers dating back to grade school. He needs to play.
@@bevelinternational7527 go watch Tatum in last Olympic games... He was mostly terrible in that team too, and that team had NOONE but KD. I remember he only played ONE good game in which he was a spot up shooter and hit like 4-5 3pointers.
“I feel bad for him”😂 That’s ok Colin, Tatum doesn’t need your support or recognition. He’s a champion. He wins, and he’s the opposite of everything you claim him to be. Your Tatum takes are the worst takes I’ve ever heard in my life. Just an unbearable listen.
Colin sayin Michael didn’t elevate players when that group of scrubs he won with are considered “all time teams” cause of him, with players like Kerr having legendary shots because of MJ is why his basketball takes be just utter trash.
Jordan definitely made people players better around him but the bulls were definitely an all time great team and one of the best defensive teams ever because they had 3 of the best defenders ever Jordan, pippen, rodman. MJ and rodman won DPOY Awards and pippen should of won at least 2 times .
Embiid is just getting over a serious injury. We can't read too much into his Olympic performance. He has torched The Joker numerous times in head to head battles, and last season he was the best in the league statistically before suffering a season ending injury.
Embiid just needs to get healthy. Jokic is better, but Embiid is a valuable player to the Sixers. Just from last season, we saw how bad the Sixers were without him... And in order to stat pad, the player has to be good enough to do it...
Colin said Jokic, Bron and Magic were the ONLY players to make their teammates better….. which false. Bird did as well, that's the point he’s making. There are many more names on that list as well.
Kerr is known for stupid lineups. Every Warrior fan in the last two years knows this. Kerr loves going small. Kerr is the same guy that almost refused to give Kuminga good minutes until it became impossible for him to not do do. In the World Cup last year Kerr's rotations were bizarre. The United States clearly has the most overall talent and it is not close. If the United States win the Gold it will NOT be because of good coaching by Kerr. He 'f'd up the World Cup team last year, but it will be close to impossible to eff this team up.
@@jaydot4956He a top 10 players , NBA Champion, 5x Allstar , First Team All NBA which is position-less now , Most points at Age 26 in the playoffs, how he not a superstar
@@jaydot4956Tatum is gonna punish the league next season……. Watch out Golden State, Tatum is gonna hand Kerr the popcorn while he beats the Warriors by 100
Jayson Tatum is 339-174 in his career. His first team all NBA 3 years in a row the only person on the Olympic team All-Star MVP All-Star record scoring five time All Star champion let his team in points rebounds and assist for the last 3 years running has the highest Boston Celtics scoring average one of the youngest players ever to 10,000 points and is the all-time leading scorer in the playoffs for any player 26 or under over Kobe Bryant LeBron James Steph Curry and currently tied with the most 50-point games in the last 5 years again tell me how he's overrated or do people just have some reason to try to hate on it
I think you're exaggerating the Tatum dynamic quite a bit. And frankly, the LAST thing they need is another "A." Why DON'T they need a guy who's B+ at everything? That's exactly what they need. Brad got rid of Marcus Smart because he's not nearly a good enough offensive player. He got a BETTER offensive player... but this somehow works better now. Why is that? There's a flaw in this logic. There's a hint of truth to it, but it's not nearly to the level you're saying. Besides, the entire "Alpha" thing is as much mythical as it is fact. If you doubt me, look up the SCIENCE on it. Tatum's a VASTLY better player than Haliburton or Booker. And God knows he makes better decisions than Ant. No, Kerr just hasn't figured out how to use him, and it's exacerbated by him playing Embiid and Booker.
No, he's not overhyped. He's been a great, dominant player, but it looks like his legs are permanently shot after all the injuries. This Embid isn't the same one we saw destroy Jokic for 48 points/15 rebounds. He's a complete shell of himself...
Letting lebron play almost entire 4th says it all. They letting him STAT PAD so they can make the narrative that he carried and lead team USA.. But obviously KD is the best player and the one that carried the team!!!
I don't understand the logic of having Derrick White (6-4 190lb PG) replace Kawhi Leonard over Jalen Brown (6-6 223lb SG/SF) AND getting to play in a game Jason Tatum didn't (6-8 210lb SF/PF). 🤷♂
Its more political decision which you can or not agree with but if you are calling out a major investor, promoter of NBA/olympics/sports your not going to be preferred not matter how good you are.
What’s this guy talking about? Tatum in an NBA Champion and he’s talking about Marcus Smart! LOL What a tool! Embiid is overrated, but yet he won multiple scoring titles! This dude is clueless.
He needs to relax, Embiid in the regular season goes toe to toe with Jokic and usually wins the battles. He is not even trying in the Olympics unless he is needed.
Points avg. after 4 games: Edwards 16.8 Durant 14.8 James 13.8 Booker 12.3 Embiid 11.0 Holiday 9.7 AD 9.5 Bam 8.5 Curry 7.3 Tatum 6.3 Tatum is barely top ten, as everybody with any basketball knowledge predicted. Stop listening to mainstream media and the NBA, they're usually lying to you.
Oh congrats, the one time you agree with him he’s WRONG. LeFraud Blames is the most overhyped player. Every season. For the last 15 or so years. ESPECIALLY NOW MORE THAN EVER.
Agreed. He is overrated. You have to remember you cause always agree with everyone. Sometimes, you might have to disagree with 90% of the people in the room.
Embiid isn't overhyped, he just needs to find his use. Tatum is being outplayed by D White, who was just added to the team, and Jrue Holiday, who both played better than Tatum in the Finals with the exception of the final games when Boston was up by 20. Embiid puts up 40 on Jokic multiple times in the NBA.
Jokic as the MVP is overrated. How far did they go without Jamal Murray hitting those clutch 3s, how far did he go when Jamal Murray was hurt? How can the best player in the league up by 20 at halftime lose a game 7!
Embiid been the worst player on team usa yet he had the nerve to try and pre-load excuses if they lose and say the team is too old. Dude will blame everybody else before he takes any accountability
Embiid is the most ref reliant player in the NBA, FIBA and Playoffs he’s trash because players are actually allowed to guard him. EmPlead is destined to fail with his play style
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This was Embidds funeral
I agree with Colin sometimes and sometimes I disagree but this was the worst take ever. If I am not mistaken, Serbia lost. Jokic can play his game for Serbia. Embiid is not use to this Lebron system they are running. Embiid is missing shots he makes all day long; hence, why he has been the leading scorer for the past 3 years. The whole USA team is centered around Lebron so that he shines because he is forever chasing MJ for the GOAT status but it won't happen. What they are running is not Embiid's game and they also better hope it wins them the gold. They didn't even play Tatum and they left Brown off the roster because this is all about Lebron. It is for Lebron, Steph and KD to look good. I guess for their last time.
PERFECT ANALYSIS OF JASON TATUM I SAID THIS YEARS AGO
I know Serbia lost, but it's kind of insane that jokic is worth so much that Serbia was even with team usa with him out there
Well he is the MVP, which literally means Most Valuable Player😂
Joel is skilled but damn that dude stays falling on the floor. He goes down 2-3 times every quarter
More like flops
He falls on purpose to protect his feet and knees. How to people not know this by now. If you say he’s injured all the time imagine if he didn’t take precautionary measures.
Or he gets hurt by falling constantly and being gigantic. Also getting himself off the ground all the time is bad for the knees.
@@bsmith437 Maybe if he didn't fall so often, he wouldn't stay injured. 🤔
@@bsmith437 Lol there is no way you're not trolling.
Embid is ball dominant. Ain't gonna happen in the Olympics.
exactly...
Flop dominant
@@Zemlja_je_ravna they in Europe...world hub for flopping
Remember when people would argue that Harden was better than Kobe and Wade? Then the refs stopped giving Harden every single call he immediately stopped being a top 10 player. I can’t wait for that to happen to embiid
💀he will be useless
Idk after this he led the league w
Assists
Taytum criticism is really starting to get out of hand. You can argue that he’s not top two on the team at any of the attributes Colin mentioned, but he’s upper half at all of them and probably one of the most well rounded players on the team
Yeah, the Tatum hate is unreal
Will he go out there and guard speedy players like how Holiday and White do every night tho. There’s a difference of what you could be good at vs what someone is a professional at doing specifically.
Love how you ignored all the criticism that immediately preceded it 💪
@@nydibsZero Dog in Tatum
I think the problem with Tatum is that because it's "his team" and for some insane reason has had a push for being the face of the league he's looked at the same way we look truly great players like Kobe, Iverson, LeBron, or Steph when he's really on that next tier down with guys like Klay, Carmelo, or Jaylen Brown. No matter how good we recognize that they are at what they are good at, there's degrees of separation between them and the true legends. Tatum just isn't on that level and when debated against the opinions that he is, any criticism comes off as hate. If Jrue Holiday doesn't get any minutes nobody cares. We understand. But Tatum doesn't and it's a topic. It wouldn't be a topic if he were as old Steph, LeBron, or KD but he's not. He's just a guy.
I think the biggest stat from yesterday was Serbia was minus 26 in the 9 minutes Jokic didn't play. With him on the floor, Serbia was even with the US.
Who cares they lost.
Serbia needs to find another good hooper
@@ig6894 comparing to how Embiid played, people care otherwise they wouldnt be watching. Embiid was the only player that was minus for the USA.
@@CdotNaoki - And he had the highest +/- in more than one of the exhibition games... One game of +/- means nothing. It's a super noisy stat.
Mislead stat..durant came in non jok8c minuted
Team USA doesn’t need Embiid on the team. He’s just snagging a gold that he doesn’t deserve
He should have played for Cameroon but he betrayed his own country
You can say the same for Lebron
Cry
The media stay trying to break up the Celtics
When did he say Tatum should leave the Celtics
May of last year on his show.
Joel Embid is the big man version of James Harden.
That's an insult to Harden. Harden's made multiple conference finals and an NBA finals.
I think it’s a decent comp. They both can’t really elevate teammates or step up when it matters.
Let’s not act like Embid didn’t have a legit MVP season. We can criticize the guy without lying about him.
I hate the media more than I dislike Embiid . He deserved his mvp and I’m not a fan at all , could jokic have won it ? Yes so could many other runner up in mvp race history
@@curtiszyr embid didn’t deserve that mvp in fact there was no debate who was better kp went on tv and made it a racial thing that’s the only reason embid won
Based on the regular season he had, he deserved it. Problem is he didn't demonstrate it in the playoffs...
He had an MVP caliber season but Jokic was still better and deserved it over him
Colin just has garbage af takes most times anyway
The bouncing Kahwi shot change alot of what we say with Embid and KD’S toes on the 3 point like changed a lot of what we say about them.
I love how the coach doesnt play jayson tatum and that means tatum isnt good. Great take colin.
He never said he wasn’t good imo he said wasn’t top 5 and I agree he’s playing behind bron and kd what does he do better then either one of them plus they were hot JT is great but let’s be real team USA can win the medal with or without him
Hmm, well... coaches tend to play good players 🤔
@@delg1211that’s not true look at Darvin Ham
Embiid is 6-2 against Jokic with a better ppg and rpg avg. He dropped 41 on Jokic in their last meeting.
Yet he stinks in the playoffs and Jokic becomes better🤷🏻♂️ not to mention Embiid plays dirty and always foul baits
@@ituoiocchisudeme6606 Joel is never healthy by the time they get to the playoffs, its as simple as that. Even if he is "back" his stamia is not what it is mid season when he is healthy. This past season he told the team even, that he was not able to go into the 4th quarter, but they couldnt take him out because his +/- was insane when he was off hte floor the 76ers got destroyed vs the Knicks
That record would be worse if Embiid would actually play the games in Denver
@@ituoiocchisudeme6606jokic plays dirty and gets away with it
@@JDay-j8z I watched every Denver game these playoffs and that’s such a lie😂
Colin Cowherd is the most overhyped sports analyst on TV
Tell me what he said is wrong about this bum arrogant player embiid?
Colin - Your Joel take didn’t age too well 🤷🏾♂️
Joel Embiid was a joke yesterday! He was one of the reason that the US started so slowly.
He was -20 at some point. He was playing when they went down early, and then when he came back, the lead USA had shrank to mid-single digits. His minutes were VERY bad for the team.
Embiid was absolutely trash against Serbia, thank God for KD and LeBron. Embiid had 3 turnovers with 3 missed free throws with 2 for 5 FG he needs to be benched ASAP
Colin has a point. The Celtics Top 5 are by far the best in the NBA and perfectly compliment each other. Brad Stevens built the perfect roster except for KP is made of glass. JT is the best player though
Joel Embiid should be playing for his own African country. Not trying to stat pad with the USA team. He is way over rated. David Robinson would destroy Embiid.
The refs keep Embiid relevant. It's insane the calls he gets.
FIBA refs don't have that same obligation.
Jokic gets more calls, and no calls from refs than anybody else. Jokic can go through you , push out of the way, no calls. When it comes to refs in NBA, Jokic is the king of refs favoritism.
@@ig6894I'm not a Joker fan but he only get 5 or 6 ft a game while Embiid averages 11 ft per game
Ya Embiid gets way more free throws and ridiculous calls than Jokic. That's just a fact. Embiid and Sga are sickening to watch due to how dependent they.are.on getting calls.
@ig6894 I bet if you watched Shaq play you would start crying.
This is stupid, he scores 25 ppg without free throws and has scored 50+ without the free throws being accounted for
Thank you Colin for finally being the one to say this about Embiid.
So, Tyrese Haliburton wasn't played either...it's one game. Man, you guys always have something to say about JT, jeez.
Nobody claims Tyrese is a top 5 player.
@littleguyjoe22 nobody says JT is top 5. Hes hated for no reason.
Yeah because he just won a final so why shouldnt he be starting says a lot about team usa
@@littleguyjoe22 tyrese made 3 first team all nba?
Haliburton is their worst player.
My dream rotation would be:
G: Curry², Booker²
G: Holiday^, White^
F: James*, Edwards¹
F: Durant¹, Tatum*
C: Davis, Adebayo
*: running the offense
¹,²: scoring options
^: point of attack defender
This is quite unfair . Jokic still the focal point of offense for Serbia just like on the nuggets . It’s different for embiid on team USA and also I don’t think he is acclimated to fiba play like jokic and other players have been. Embiid is not even my top 5 favorite player but damn the media is shredding him for nothing
Jokic would shine on USA roster.
Joel Embiid is playing a role on team USA. It’s all good as long as they win.
Colin is a pure Tatum hater. Tatum already has a Gold medal with KD. Good lord..
He was also leading the Jokic hate train pre 23’ finals
The fact that he was all NBA first team won the championship and lead his team in points and other categories throughout the playoffs and you're calling this man lesser than what he is I swear the hate for Jason Tatum has gone out of control
OK now look at Tatum low shooting percentages... especially in the playoffs. Embiid was correct... Tatum can go 5 for 19 and Celtics still win
@@logicalbrother look at his play making ability or we just look for catch and shoot players now. Look at his assist numbers and rebounds. Look at his defence. But we're here just looking at shooting percentages.
@@1026779 Tatum isn’t more than average at passing. Austin Reaves is a better passer.
@@805fillmore lol nice rage bait 🪤
he is not a superstar....we got to face it....his shooting was awful this tear in the playoffs....he needs 5 all stars to win a chip....on his own he is a choker!
Embiid cried for his MVP and finally won it. Fact of the matter is that he barely shows up in the playoffs and is always injured. Hes 30 now and I doubt he’s going to be any healthier than before. I’d give it a year or two before his contract becomes one of the worst in the league.
Paired with “Playoff P” it’s fairly obvious what’ll happen in the playoffs this year. Both will either be injured, ramping up or underperforming.
What it is Philly doing
Tatum top 10 player na 😂
Writing fanfic and getting in your feelings. This is sad 😂
Embiid might actually be 35 years old. Africans and Dominicans always lie about their age. I heard rumors that Olajuwon was 5 years older than his listed age.
He definitely cried but let’s also not act like he didn’t have a legit MVP season.
All you said about Tatum is right
So the media created a Tatum is top 5 narrative and then has spent all the time since trying to tear it down
Cowherd and every other TV show just says things for content and to get people talking about it. They literally say something about a player and a few days later flip it to the exact opposite without any explanation. I can't believe people still don't get this
The most overhyped over talked about player is EASILY Lebron but let's all just follow the narratives and pretend that's not true like good little sheep
Let get this straight, the USA basket association begged Embiid to play for the USA. One game later, you guys are calling him out. Serbia team is built around Jokic, just like the sixers game is built around Embiid, so stop the nonsense.
That's what I'm saying. FIBA is just different. aLSO , lEBRON HAS THE BALL I HIS HANDS, so he dictates what is going on offensive. All sixers fans understand that in order to beat the DDenver Nuggets , you must make Jokic work on both ends of the floor. Well in the last three games in Philly , Joel dominates that guy. So for Colin to say " it's not even close after yesterday " is wild but I understand Colin is not a real basketball. guy.
@@sammastersfulEmbiid is a bum buddy it’s fine to admit
Embiid is not as good a fit on this team AD and Bam who have more of a defensive mindset are better fits. Joelle is defensive minded too but he expects the ball way more on offense and that's just not gonna happen with Bron KD Curry Edwards etc
Embid is a bum?so he'snot even a good player?@@Chupapiyayaya
Embiid is 21ppg on 49%TS in playoffs elimination games...gets panic attack every time 4th quarter come...never been out of the 2nd round in the Leastern conference...LOL...
He ain't no superstar when the serious basketball is being played and don't get easy free throws(Fiba and deep playoffs)
Tatum the most versatile player in the league.. exactly what you need on this team
Tatum “isn’t top 5” yet has been All NBA First team 3 times. “You saw this in the ECF, and Finals,”yet he led his team in PTS, RBS, and AST in both of those series on route to a championship. LOL. What a lazy take.
Because of positions. Make your list, he’s not top 5. He’s 10/12 at worst but def not top 5
Joker
Greek Freak
SGA
AD
Ant
Luka
Wemby
Curry
Joel
KD
Book
JB
JT
I’m sure I’m missing some guys too but off the top of my head
@@michaelvasquez2726 Id take him over everyone excpet jokic giannis luka, hes in same tier as SGA and Embiid imo maybe lebron and kd in that tier too. Also if u think JB > JT then u think iggy > steph and maxwell > larry bird
who votes for that garbage ? right.
@@michaelvasquez2726 All NBA is position-less, so that argument is invalid.
Jayson Tatum is not top 5.
He literally said Tatum is probably top 10, how is him not being top 5 an overstatement. Anyone who watched the Finals knows D White, Brown, and Holiday were far more efficient on Offensive and Defense. Tatum did rebound and pass better to make up for his struggles.
Why do people in the comments pretend like Ben Simmons wasnt a high level player at one point?
Tatum isn’t a dog, but there’s no excuse for him getting DNP in a blowout win. No way, man.
Thought winning a ring would end this Tatum “doesn’t have the god” in him narrative……. lol does he have to win mvp too or something? Tf
@@jslayer45I thought dropping the most points in a game 7 last year and doing what he did in an elimination Game 6 after struggling the first 42 minutes would shut that up. Then I thought his Championshiop clinching performance would. It’s never going to happen, it’s ok though
He literally lead his team in the playoffs in shot attempts……
The only two players in his ENTIRE CAREER who have a negative net rating when paired with Jokic: Emmanuel Mudiay and Facundo Campazzo. That's it. Every single other player he has ever played with has had a positive net rating paired with him.
I'm a Tatum fan being a Dukie but what Colin is referring to is he lacks that DAWG... AND I agree
What do you think of Paolo?
@@brandonsingh5083 I haven’t seen him enough to say but I like what I saw in his first playoff series
I agree that Magic, Jokic, and LeBron are 3 of the most effective team helper players in history. But there are others that were equally as lethal.
These include Bird, Nash, CP3 and Isiah Thomas. All extremely efficient at scoring and getting teammates involved. Nash is the only one without a championship, but he does have 2 MVPs. It is never said and should definitely be noted that in his prime, Nash experienced fixed game calling from refs especially vs the Lakers. The Blazers and Kings also had holes put in their ships by these same refs vs the Lakers.
Oh... and I think we are forgetting Doncic.
They all run the Point! This make your team better criticism of shooters/scorers started with Nash and should not be considered the same with players that don't run Point. The media wanted to give him the MVP over Shaq, Kobe, and others. Before Nash, true Points were all floor generals whose job was to make the offense run better, be the 2nd most efficient scorers, emergency, and 2nd or even 3rd scoring options. Next thing you know "everybody" especially the best players, wanted to run the point. Lebron came into the league at Point Forward, and he and position-less basketball took over the league.
Ive never thought of it this way... but I can't agree more with Colin here on Tatum is B+ at most in every aspect of the game. He might have overall higher skillset than a lot of other plyers, but there's not a single thing you can pinpoint on Tatum and say he is A/A+ in it.
(Defense, offense, 3pt, mentality, etc)
this doesnt take away from the fact he is a very good player
It’s also a good thing that is good at everything because most players have significant weakness
@@tyriantaylor711 that's true - but that matters less when it is a team of STACKED players. you have players who might have deficiencies, but they are A/A+ in 3 other things. so you put that player next to another one who is A+ in the deficiency of the other one.
e.g. Steph is A+ in shooting, handling, court spread, passing. But is a C at best on defense. That why you bring Drue who is A+ on defense, court spread, game mindset but has deficiencies on scoring etc (He is still a solid B in that regard)
Man this is silly...
Tatum has been the best player on a championship level team for years...played meaningful basketball since entering the league.
Hes swept Durant in recent years.
Holiday and white are role players on his team
Hes all nba.
Been better at devin booker at every point in their careers dating back to grade school.
He needs to play.
@@bevelinternational7527 go watch Tatum in last Olympic games... He was mostly terrible in that team too, and that team had NOONE but KD. I remember he only played ONE good game in which he was a spot up shooter and hit like 4-5 3pointers.
“I feel bad for him”😂 That’s ok Colin, Tatum doesn’t need your support or recognition. He’s a champion. He wins, and he’s the opposite of everything you claim him to be. Your Tatum takes are the worst takes I’ve ever heard in my life. Just an unbearable listen.
Colin sayin Michael didn’t elevate players when that group of scrubs he won with are considered “all time teams” cause of him, with players like Kerr having legendary shots because of MJ is why his basketball takes be just utter trash.
Jordan definitely made people players better around him but the bulls were definitely an all time great team and one of the best defensive teams ever because they had 3 of the best defenders ever Jordan, pippen, rodman. MJ and rodman won DPOY Awards and pippen should of won at least 2 times .
Calling bro submissive is diabolical behavior 😂
Man i'm impressed by how bad your takes were today
Did this guy just put Derick white among the shooters? Stop talking 😂😂😂 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
White is a good shooter what are you talking about?? lol
Colin Cowherd you said it all man. So true. I've saying for a long time that Tatum was overrated.
Embiid is just getting over a serious injury. We can't read too much into his Olympic performance. He has torched The Joker numerous times in head to head battles, and last season he was the best in the league statistically before suffering a season ending injury.
You're speaking facts.
Agreed!!!
He honestly still looks like he hasn’t completely healed.
So many of his injuries are from flopping and falling on the floor over and over to get fouls. Yeah he's getting over an injury now, when is he not?
whenis he not getting over a serious injury? This has been a trend since his 2nd year after he lost the ROTY to Brogdon due to injury
Tatum is a play maker
Dude really debating with no one😂 just no friends
Embiid is nowhere near Jokic
Embiid is better than jokic. How many times has embiid defeated jokic.
I'm sorry, Bron DOES NOT have the 'rip your heart out' gene...
WTF you hater.
Pretty sure no sane person has ever said that
100% true. Anyone who says otherwise is just trying to cover for Bron.
Embiid just needs to get healthy. Jokic is better, but Embiid is a valuable player to the Sixers. Just from last season, we saw how bad the Sixers were without him... And in order to stat pad, the player has to be good enough to do it...
It’s inexcusable that JT did not receive minutes. Larry Bird made teammates better
Larry Bird ain't here.
Colin said Jokic, Bron and Magic were the ONLY players to make their teammates better….. which false. Bird did as well, that's the point he’s making. There are many more names on that list as well.
@@064razor go back and listen. Clearly you did not
@@cc.m.1149 thanks
I was shocked Tatum wasn't starting over Booker Serbia took the lead early because of the lack of size in the starting lineup
Booker is better. Booker's two 3's got them back in. He's had the HIGHEST plus minus on the team. Better chemistry
Kerr is known for stupid lineups. Every Warrior fan in the last two years knows this. Kerr loves going small. Kerr is the same guy that almost refused to give Kuminga good minutes until it became impossible for him to not do do. In the World Cup last year Kerr's rotations were bizarre.
The United States clearly has the most overall talent and it is not close. If the United States win the Gold it will NOT be because of good coaching by Kerr. He 'f'd up the World Cup team last year, but it will be close to impossible to eff this team up.
The slander that Tatum gets is so insane to me lol smh why do people hate this man? He just hoops and is unproblematic
Because he’s an imposter, they push him like he’s a superstar and he’s not.
NOT SO.
I'VE SEEN TATUM TAKE OPPONENTS 8 OUT OF 10 TIMES 1 ON 1.
UNSTOPPABLE, THIS IS A HUGE MISTAKE ON KERR'S PART.
@@spirit13the1st6 you know better than a champion coach,lol 🤡
@@jaydot4956He a top 10 players , NBA Champion, 5x Allstar , First Team All NBA which is position-less now , Most points at Age 26 in the playoffs, how he not a superstar
@@jaydot4956Tatum is gonna punish the league next season……. Watch out Golden State, Tatum is gonna hand Kerr the popcorn while he beats the Warriors by 100
Colin cowlick should stay saying bull 🐂 💩about hockey and stay away from basketball 🏀 like he just says what other media ppl hating Tatum says 😂
Calling him “submissive at times” is disrespectful af. Does he think he just gives up at the end of games?
Apparently you don't watch crucial playoff games where Joel shrinks and disappears.
have you literally ever watched a Joel Embiid playoff series?
He always do especialy when he learned basic English words. His interviews felt like were answered by a not so egotistical african😂
Lebron does not have the rip your heart out mentality
No way he said that??😂
Finally the world is realizing how overrated Tatum is.
Jayson Tatum is 339-174 in his career. His first team all NBA 3 years in a row the only person on the Olympic team All-Star MVP All-Star record scoring five time All Star champion let his team in points rebounds and assist for the last 3 years running has the highest Boston Celtics scoring average one of the youngest players ever to 10,000 points and is the all-time leading scorer in the playoffs for any player 26 or under over Kobe Bryant LeBron James Steph Curry and currently tied with the most 50-point games in the last 5 years again tell me how he's overrated or do people just have some reason to try to hate on it
Embiid has really only had two healthy playoff runs and Simmons choked one away
I think you're exaggerating the Tatum dynamic quite a bit. And frankly, the LAST thing they need is another "A." Why DON'T they need a guy who's B+ at everything? That's exactly what they need.
Brad got rid of Marcus Smart because he's not nearly a good enough offensive player. He got a BETTER offensive player... but this somehow works better now. Why is that? There's a flaw in this logic. There's a hint of truth to it, but it's not nearly to the level you're saying. Besides, the entire "Alpha" thing is as much mythical as it is fact. If you doubt me, look up the SCIENCE on it.
Tatum's a VASTLY better player than Haliburton or Booker. And God knows he makes better decisions than Ant. No, Kerr just hasn't figured out how to use him, and it's exacerbated by him playing Embiid and Booker.
I'm sick of sports media it's become a 💩 show. And Colin is leading the herd
No, he's not overhyped. He's been a great, dominant player, but it looks like his legs are permanently shot after all the injuries. This Embid isn't the same one we saw destroy Jokic for 48 points/15 rebounds. He's a complete shell of himself...
I agree with Colin; Tatum is overrated.
Embiid earned his MVP, but he's been pretty lackluster when it matters which is why he won't win another MVP
😂😂😂 EmBIId EaRnEd his MvP 😂😂😂😂hang on, I need to catch my breath.... ok I'm back 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@carpetbuddy Jokic shouldn't have as many as he does and he didn't earn that one, Giannis has been better than Jokic post Bron
You’re joke bro…. Go look at the stats dummies.
Letting lebron play almost entire 4th says it all. They letting him STAT PAD so they can make the narrative that he carried and lead team USA.. But obviously KD is the best player and the one that carried the team!!!
I don't understand the logic of having Derrick White (6-4 190lb PG) replace Kawhi Leonard over Jalen Brown (6-6 223lb SG/SF) AND getting to play in a game Jason Tatum didn't (6-8 210lb SF/PF). 🤷♂
Its more political decision which you can or not agree with but if you are calling out a major investor, promoter of NBA/olympics/sports your not going to be preferred not matter how good you are.
I mean team USA is running 3 small guards in the starting 5 and Lebron at the 4.
What’s this guy talking about? Tatum in an NBA Champion and he’s talking about Marcus Smart! LOL What a tool! Embiid is overrated, but yet he won multiple scoring titles! This dude is clueless.
Embiid is clearly hurt/out of shape he's far from overrated
Always is apparently.
It's been like this his whole career! Sixers need to trade this bum.
And clearly still a newbie to winning basketball😂
Sports Media never fails.
I’ve heard them say every single player is over hyped, it’s just a matter of time.
He needs to relax, Embiid in the regular season goes toe to toe with Jokic and usually wins the battles. He is not even trying in the Olympics unless he is needed.
yeah just like the playoffs..not even trying
The problem is the Playoffs.
Free throw merchant in the regular season. Easy to beat the Hornets in the regular season
Embiid ducked like 3 or 4 Denver games last two seasons stop
@@Rosecain27 He played in Denver 2 times in his entire career. Last time was 5 years ago.
Points avg. after 4 games:
Edwards 16.8
Durant 14.8
James 13.8
Booker 12.3
Embiid 11.0
Holiday 9.7
AD 9.5
Bam 8.5
Curry 7.3
Tatum 6.3
Tatum is barely top ten, as everybody with any basketball knowledge predicted. Stop listening to mainstream media and the NBA, they're usually lying to you.
I don’t agree with Collin often, but I do with this take.
Oh congrats, the one time you agree with him he’s WRONG.
LeFraud Blames is the most overhyped player. Every season. For the last 15 or so years. ESPECIALLY NOW MORE THAN EVER.
Agreed. He is overrated. You have to remember you cause always agree with everyone. Sometimes, you might have to disagree with 90% of the people in the room.
@@NewNormalWorldOrderImagine saying someone is overhype but scores the most points on less attempts & top 10 ALLTIME in 3 major categories… idiots
I never agree with colin but embid as a top 5 player give me a break hes a joke jokic ate his lunch
@@NewNormalWorldOrder, “Lefraud” 🤭lay off the drugs, dude! 🤫
Embiib will NEVER be effective if he ain't the #1 option.
Didn’t Tatum win the all star game mvp last year? How is that “shrinking”?
Dude you’re talking about all star game mvp ? You should be ashamed to be bringing that up 🤔
@@claytonhall4501 lmao yes it’s not the same level but that’s being surrounded by the best guys and showing out is it not? Like think a little my guy
All star game? Lol a glorified halrem globetrotter dunk contest?
@@j0monkeeythere's no defense in thst game little guy.
Dame won.
Embiid isn't overhyped, he just needs to find his use. Tatum is being outplayed by D White, who was just added to the team, and Jrue Holiday, who both played better than Tatum in the Finals with the exception of the final games when Boston was up by 20.
Embiid puts up 40 on Jokic multiple times in the NBA.
Jokic as the MVP is overrated. How far did they go without Jamal Murray hitting those clutch 3s, how far did he go when Jamal Murray was hurt? How can the best player in the league up by 20 at halftime lose a game 7!
Whoever takes advice from a guy who never played is very special
Jokic plus/minus is probably the craziest plus/minus in any basketball game ever.
Now that Colin has been exposed as a talentless fraud, I am looking forward to his apology. Any day now...
Embiid been the worst player on team usa yet he had the nerve to try and pre-load excuses if they lose and say the team is too old. Dude will blame everybody else before he takes any accountability
Didn't media keep saying Embiid would of beat Robinson Ewing Barkley and Malone
Embiid is the most ref reliant player in the NBA, FIBA and Playoffs he’s trash because players are actually allowed to guard him. EmPlead is destined to fail with his play style
Going really love it when the Sixers win the NBA title next year and Joel is the MVP. What will Colin say then, he was all in on Joel.
Beautifully sad my man ever since Jayson Tatum got drafted I have been saying this since day one and if we have to be sincere he is highly overrated
Maybe one day I too can have a show where I talk about basketball but know nothing about it. You give a man a dream Colin ❤
Serbia was 81:81 with Jokic on the floor and 3 :29 with him off the floor
Proof this guy is a clown and was talking about himself 😮 Joel vs joker head to head not even close last 20 games look it up
Women don’t notice how sport show hosts never talk bad about them in their sports. They dog men out when they play bad. The day they start to treat you that way, it will be the day they are no longer pretending to care, but they’ll actually care.
Look at his +\- in the playoffs.. dude can’t take a breather without the 76ers losing the lead
They are not going to put Jason Tatum in on rubbish minutes. They had the game wrapped up.
The thing with Embiid is he doesn't play with energy. He looks lazy.
His comments are below the belt...
Colin is the definition of prisoner of the moment
This didn’t age well 😂
Embiid hasn't done anything in the Olympics...
Tatum's real value this year comes with his defensive versatility. He could defend half of the court if he wanted, a mini chuck.
We gonna act like JAmal Murray not an All Star caliber player. Stop this paper stat logic.
This is the first time in like 15 years Colin had a good take
& it aged like milk 😂
@@SwingingPplikeHelicopter He had to be wrong again, I should have known😂