Freewing T-33 Shooting Star 80mm EDF Jet - Unboxing & Assembly - Motion RC

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  • Опубліковано 3 січ 2025

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  • @MotionRC
    @MotionRC  5 років тому +2

    Happy to say the Pre-Order is now live! Both versions will be available in the US mid-January and a late January arrival for the EU
    USAF US PNP: www.motionrc.com/collections/jets-and-ducted-fan/products/freewing-t-33-shooting-star-usaf-80mm-edf-jet-pnp
    German US PNP: www.motionrc.com/collections/jets-and-ducted-fan/products/freewing-t-33-shooting-star-german-80mm-edf-jet-pnp
    USAF EU PNP: www.motionrc.eu/collections/jets-and-ducted-fan/products/freewing-t-33-shooting-star-usaf-80mm-edf-jet-pnp
    German EU PNP: www.motionrc.eu/collections/jets-and-ducted-fan/products/freewing-t-33-shooting-star-german-80mm-edf-jet-pnp

    • @deandrerobert8264
      @deandrerobert8264 3 роки тому

      You probably dont give a shit but if you are stoned like me during the covid times then you can stream pretty much all the new movies on instaflixxer. I've been streaming with my gf these days =)

  • @soar-eyes
    @soar-eyes 5 років тому +1

    Fantastic! My dad was a USAF flight instructor in the T-33 (and the later T-38) so naturally I'll get this plane. Just wish he was still here to see it fly.

    • @MotionRC
      @MotionRC  5 років тому +1

      He'll see it Stan. We love the history as much as the hobby if not more

  • @dennisfarley6574
    @dennisfarley6574 5 років тому +9

    Beautiful airplane! Thanks MRC for thinking about us that are just starting our edf journey this will be a great step up.

    • @GBLynden
      @GBLynden 5 років тому +2

      Dennis Farley Is this your next plane Dennis?

    • @dennisfarley6574
      @dennisfarley6574 5 років тому

      Probably not my only edf is the Arrows Marlin. I will probably look at something in between for my next edf. Ill wait and hear from others to fly this and see what the general consciousness is before I decide.

    • @JoshWeaverRC
      @JoshWeaverRC 5 років тому +4

      @@dennisfarley6574 Good choice Dennis, this is a good looking bird and good to keep it that way. From looking at it, it doesn't look scary for flight. However it seems to cut through the air easily. Definitely master the ability to slow down an EDF before taking this on. As you pay attention, as you know, listen to those talking about the slow flight characteristics. I'm right there with you BTW. Will be flying my 80mm Havoc for the first time soon.
      And this having flaps, lowering those and staying in the power means a lot more time to think ahead.

    • @tomheetderks9997
      @tomheetderks9997 5 років тому

      @@JoshWeaverRC for those who love the cold war jets and are low time edf pilots, I would recommend the Sabre 80mm, It's a sweet easy to fly jet with no bad habits at all. The gear stance is close, and I scrape the drop tanks in a cross wind, but other than that its great plane. it is truly the most stable jet I own, and no it's not fast, but looks so cool in the air.

    • @LigthningII
      @LigthningII 5 років тому +1

      @@tomheetderks9997 The Sabre is really nice and easy to fly. I have had one for years and just up graded the power unit on the original model.

  • @RobisonRacing68
    @RobisonRacing68 5 років тому +1

    Cripes the opening nailed it for me. Loving this.

    • @MotionRC
      @MotionRC  5 років тому +2

      I was so happy to find that vocal. the day this arrived that song came on my classic rock station and it had to happen

  • @jeffhenderson934
    @jeffhenderson934 3 роки тому +1

    It wasn’t overnight, or even after a dozen flights of the T-33. It even got banished to the “Hangar of Death” for a few months. No issues, easy to takeoff, very easy to fly, no learning curve in level flight, rolls or loops. The T-33 was like…. Blah. But yesterday I took it out, four batteries worth, and noticed how I missed the perfection of this EDF. (6s 5000 70c, firewalled) It does everything well, and with ease.
    Of all the 64mm+ EDF’s this is, at least for me, the easiest to land on our short asphalt runway. The glide slope on approach (I’m guessing because of the straight wing) really makes landing simple.
    If you’re comfortable flying a 64-70mm EDF, this is the best choice to make for the jump to large scale (80mm) EDF’s.

  • @AcesHighMedia
    @AcesHighMedia 5 років тому +3

    We're there dude! Not what I was hoping for but I still love it nonetheless. Beautiful!!! I'll be getting one myself. Thank you MRC and Freewing. Truly the best in the business.

  • @JoshWeaverRC
    @JoshWeaverRC 5 років тому +6

    Looks like a great model to hopefully not have to take apart so I can leave it in the car and fly off grass in all sorts of locations. Great looking too.

  • @castlefranck3979
    @castlefranck3979 5 років тому +1

    Another gorgeous jet from motion rc can't wait to add these one in my hangar......

  • @victorrcjets7660
    @victorrcjets7660 5 років тому +6

    My poor bank! I love it and hate it! I love both schemes!

  • @AussieRCPlayground
    @AussieRCPlayground 5 років тому +2

    Awesome. Gorgeous looking plane. Wish there was more support for Freewing planes in Australia...

  • @shelbyseelbach9568
    @shelbyseelbach9568 5 років тому +4

    Wasn't expecting that!

  • @dkalwishky
    @dkalwishky 5 років тому +1

    I've been waiting for a T-33 for years, I can't wait until the preorder comes up!
    Great job Alpha & Team!

  • @v12kid
    @v12kid 5 років тому +2

    SO MUCH WANT!!! Someone needs to make a scale cockpit kit for this thing. Take my money!

  • @Andingo86
    @Andingo86 5 років тому +1

    Great job James, Alpha and all of the Motion RC people! Love the jet, Andy want.

  • @DarrenRC76
    @DarrenRC76 5 років тому +1

    I really like the new sprung landing gear doors that are appearing on the newer jets. Full doors look so much better. This is most likely not for me but i'm happy for all those wanting a quality foam T-33 . I can't buy everything and have just bought the AL37 so i'm kinda happy to have a break for a while until the next release.

  • @gabrieldavidson4442
    @gabrieldavidson4442 5 років тому

    You have no idea how long I was waiting for something like this, going for preorder.

  • @williamdecker3989
    @williamdecker3989 5 років тому +1

    Another winner from Motion RC! My wishlist just got longer. I'd say slow down so I can catch up, but keep up the good work Alpha, you're ensuring Motion's continued prosperity!

  • @bradamussen6460
    @bradamussen6460 5 років тому +2

    Probably going to need one!

  • @wtfmimshag
    @wtfmimshag 5 років тому +2

    Even if it's not your cup of tea, can we take a moment to appreciate Freewing looking after us grass ops guys?

  • @lmramos44
    @lmramos44 5 років тому +1

    Sweet-Sweet-Sweet!!! Thanks Alpha!

  • @wmp59
    @wmp59 5 років тому +1

    Thanks, for the jet I have been waiting for this jet! I like the older jets!

    • @MotionRC
      @MotionRC  5 років тому

      pre-order is now live

  • @Jackmiller-xh5ne
    @Jackmiller-xh5ne 5 років тому +2

    Called it!!! Woohoo!! 🙌

  • @bobb1657
    @bobb1657 5 років тому +1

    Nice work Motion Team

  • @jetsandwings3059
    @jetsandwings3059 5 років тому

    Beautiful airplane in both liveries, can't wait to get my hands on it!

  • @N2RIT
    @N2RIT 5 років тому +6

    Am not a fan of this model but thought it would be bigger. Maybe the next one.

  • @johngraham3649
    @johngraham3649 5 років тому +1

    good looking aircraft James!

    • @MotionRC
      @MotionRC  5 років тому

      Thanks so much. She's really nicely modeled. Excited to get it out this weekend

  • @petefoss
    @petefoss 5 років тому

    Very cool airplane to bookend my EDF experience. My first one was the Kyosho T-33!

  • @billshepard2908
    @billshepard2908 5 років тому +1

    Great Stance. I Like it

  • @Farmermanrc
    @Farmermanrc 5 років тому +6

    That battery try looks bigger this time Now I'm Convinced!!!!!

  • @payitfwdrcl6171
    @payitfwdrcl6171 5 років тому +3

    MOTIONRC- Very nice jet. Great presentation James. Looking forward to the flight videos. 👊👍🛫🛫🛫😁😊

  • @johnsons74thsquadron74
    @johnsons74thsquadron74 4 роки тому +1

    Oh yes. I am getting one next month as my 1st jet. I am too excited. 😁

    • @MotionRC
      @MotionRC  4 роки тому +1

      Good choice!

    • @johnsons74thsquadron74
      @johnsons74thsquadron74 4 роки тому

      @@MotionRC I am looking forward to buying airplanes you carry. And I just subscribed to you.

  • @EduardoVoloch
    @EduardoVoloch 5 років тому +1

    very nice! All time favorite

  • @gavinwilkins5466
    @gavinwilkins5466 5 років тому +1

    Thank you thank you been waiting a t 33 for long time

  • @TheTedbull
    @TheTedbull 5 років тому +1

    I like the removable servo covers on the AL37 and now this. I hope this is the standard going forward for freewing.

  • @mrt1035
    @mrt1035 5 років тому

    Super excited for this plane. I really wanted a 90 mm F105 but this was easily my second choice! Ready to hit that pre order button. I knew I made the right choice passing up the airliner.

    • @MotionRC
      @MotionRC  5 років тому +1

      hang tight. product pages are on the way

    • @mrt1035
      @mrt1035 5 років тому

      Excellent job on the gear doors, only thing missing on the F-86 and A-4. These doors really completes it look.

  • @jettechdonatkins
    @jettechdonatkins 5 років тому

    Very nice,like the gear doors a lot.Can't wait to see it fly.Sure would like an upgraded A-4 with the doors and inrunner set-up! Thanks James!!

    • @MotionRC
      @MotionRC  5 років тому

      hope to get her out Sunday so flight video by Tuesday the latest

  • @murdockphantom6629
    @murdockphantom6629 5 років тому

    Been waiting a long time...1 or 2 will adorn my hangar.

  • @WarbirdFan66
    @WarbirdFan66 5 років тому +1

    Awesome bird guys, love the luftwaffe paint scheme... :), great work

  • @reckemroysrc3764
    @reckemroysrc3764 5 років тому +1

    Awesome James. That's beautiful great looking 👍🏼👍🏼✌🏼✌🏼

  • @thercdoctor6434
    @thercdoctor6434 5 років тому +2

    Freewing should make a b-2 or a f-117 the crowd will be much happier lol

  • @xKmotx
    @xKmotx 5 років тому +1

    I love the T-33! This is awesome!! 👍

  • @JeffinLowerAlabama
    @JeffinLowerAlabama 5 років тому

    Nice way to start off the new year, looks great, James the presentation is pretty slick too, Jeff in LA USA

    • @MotionRC
      @MotionRC  5 років тому

      Thanks so much. Tried to cover every base.

  • @davidgerlach1132
    @davidgerlach1132 7 місяців тому +1

    Late to the party but excited. In your comparisons at the end 13:15 I see you have the L-39 Albatros , so do I and I love it beyond words can explain for its stable and just precise handling. You also compare it to the F-86 Sabre 80mm, my question is do you like the F-86 more than the T-33?

  • @lancebbowman
    @lancebbowman 5 років тому +1

    Oh man I dig this!

  • @GBLynden
    @GBLynden 5 років тому +3

    This is a sexy jet!

    • @JoshWeaverRC
      @JoshWeaverRC 5 років тому

      Can we get you to Vanna Bobby model this, that will be sexy! A Wild Bill Flynn labcoat build!?!

    • @JoshWeaverRC
      @JoshWeaverRC 5 років тому

      Buffering!

  • @marcbaeten8884
    @marcbaeten8884 5 років тому

    Finally my alltime favourite. Me happy

  • @LigthningII
    @LigthningII 5 років тому +1

    Well I will get one of these as soon as the order is up

  • @mpojr
    @mpojr 3 роки тому

    worked on tbirds in the airforce easy to work on great little trainer but on start up egt would go to about 750c but than would settle in about 650c.l like freewing jets my favorite one to fly is f86.

  • @rcchronicles25
    @rcchronicles25 5 років тому

    The German livery is sweet!

  • @edwardwaldrep7727
    @edwardwaldrep7727 5 років тому +1

    Hmm, pretty nice, it's the same size of my scratchbuilt glass T-33 with a 90mm fan. I had to use enlarged inlets and never liked the look but they've used a smaller fan and still went with an aux inlet. Ah well at least it's on the bottom. The lines look nice, though the wing is fat (really thick). Maybe I'll get one, but maybe I'll work on my 60" long version.

  • @hobbiestgarage1209
    @hobbiestgarage1209 5 років тому +16

    Wasn’t expecting this, not really my style so will probably not be landing in my hanger.

  • @sc1212able
    @sc1212able 5 років тому +1

    Pretty cool jet, was hoping for something a little different and under $200....

  • @jsean13
    @jsean13 5 років тому +4

    The quality is clearly there, just wish it wasn't a T-33 lol for those that like this plane though, I'm happy for ya!!! I'm not a fan of jets from that era.

  • @Farmermanrc
    @Farmermanrc 5 років тому +2

    As soon ______ possible!!!

  • @LigthningII
    @LigthningII 5 років тому

    Got mine two days ago and still have not unboxed it yet. Waiting for some working room :).

  • @williewideback
    @williewideback 5 років тому +1

    THIS IS NICE!!!!!

  • @DadsRCHangar
    @DadsRCHangar 5 років тому +1

    For so reason it reminds me of the F9F, so I love it, want it.

    • @JoshWeaverRC
      @JoshWeaverRC 5 років тому +1

      Reminds me of how many planes look like the panther and me being at a jet event going Panther? Panther?
      I didn't really ask that. Just asked what the models were. Ha ha

    • @DadsRCHangar
      @DadsRCHangar 5 років тому +1

      Josh Weaver RC I was hoping they would make a larger panther. Let’s see if this one actually makes the Euro store.

    • @vintagecornet
      @vintagecornet 5 років тому +1

      I'm buying the T-33... but I continue to hope for an F9F Panther; same size would be great.

    • @JoshWeaverRC
      @JoshWeaverRC 5 років тому +2

      @@DadsRCHangar Good luck.

  • @Shauncat1
    @Shauncat1 4 роки тому

    I'm excited, mine arrived arrived today, didn't take long to put her together, thanks to your building tutorial video Bro, I'm even more excited, I was expecting the silver version as I was told by the hobby shop that I purchased from here in South Africa but to my surprise it was the cameo German version that I wanted, Yipeee!! Can you please advise on expo and throws for my Rado DX 9 setup please Bro.

  • @JohnVHRC
    @JohnVHRC 5 років тому +1

    Awesome

    • @JoshWeaverRC
      @JoshWeaverRC 5 років тому +1

      Hey hey Buddy, not exactly the best place to post this, but my wife did order a second, crashed first one, 8 times, Opterra 2 m.
      For MRC, my wife is getting the notifications of this bird coming out. Kenny was asking last night on his live stream and my wife was saying, Friday MRC release Kenny! Even I know that!
      Buffering!

    • @JohnVHRC
      @JohnVHRC 5 років тому

      Josh Weaver RC sweet!

  • @bradamussen6460
    @bradamussen6460 5 років тому

    Ordered Today!

  • @Rhoedision
    @Rhoedision 5 років тому

    Very Nice MRC Awsum looking plane..and most def Great jet plane in its Error...Thank you so much for the unboxing and Build and look forward for more realase's..👍👍👍👊👊😉

  • @johnnydep8979
    @johnnydep8979 5 років тому +1

    Holyshits...it's freaking awesome. I'm buying it now. Whaahaaha...

  • @dariusrucker7854
    @dariusrucker7854 5 років тому

    Love the American scheme

  • @LigthningII
    @LigthningII 5 років тому

    I pre-ordered but was hoping for a F9F Panther jet instead. Maybe I can make one out of this model. maybe not. In any case, I am willing to get and fly one.

  • @Lithonion1
    @Lithonion1 5 років тому +1

    The RPM on that 19020kv inrunner in your description should push 475,000 RPM. :P Love typos!!

  • @Farmermanrc
    @Farmermanrc 5 років тому +2

    9:40👌👌👌

  • @fredmdbud
    @fredmdbud 5 років тому +1

    So when do the flight videos get released?

    • @MotionRC
      @MotionRC  5 років тому

      Alpha went out yesterday and I am meeting Patrick tomorrow. So figure all edited and ready to roll by Tuesday

  • @guisblacio
    @guisblacio 5 років тому

    Nice plane but I would have liked led lights like the L39.

  • @hermankoji
    @hermankoji 5 років тому

    Im feeling... "back to the future". after having flown my F22, F4, F16, F18, MIRAGE2000, T45, A10, F35, A6, HAWK, L39, A4, F5, YAK130, MIG21, COBRA, SCORPION, AND SUPER VIPER..

  • @gavinwilkins5466
    @gavinwilkins5466 5 років тому

    I want i want like yesterday unfortunately I won't see one till late 2020 by time they get into Australia

  • @chehamiltonsr.8749
    @chehamiltonsr.8749 5 років тому

    When will this be available??

    • @MotionRC
      @MotionRC  5 років тому

      pre-order is now live, they are arriving to the US in about 2 weeks and EU in about 3 weeks

  • @franknapolitano9144
    @franknapolitano9144 4 роки тому

    Why did FreeWing cheap out on the size of this T-33 ? They should have developed this T-33 to be of similar size to their A-10 !

    • @MotionRC
      @MotionRC  4 роки тому

      Nobody cheaped out. Felt this trainer aircraft was perfect for the 80mm size which is by far the largest segment of the EDF market

  • @jayb2617
    @jayb2617 5 років тому +1

    would have been nice with lights fitted at factory

  • @micahbell969
    @micahbell969 5 років тому

    How much will this jet cost?

    • @MotionRC
      @MotionRC  5 років тому

      more info coming soon

  • @HEATRACER24
    @HEATRACER24 5 років тому

    I want the tanks!!!

  • @octane2099
    @octane2099 5 років тому

    I like

  • @jeerananmasusai2466
    @jeerananmasusai2466 5 років тому

    ECCELENTE LAVORO

  • @PhilipAlonzo
    @PhilipAlonzo 5 років тому

    Whats the price

    • @MotionRC
      @MotionRC  5 років тому

      $389 PNP, $319 ARF+

    • @PhilipAlonzo
      @PhilipAlonzo 5 років тому

      @@MotionRC cant wait to get mine

  • @pauladams4367
    @pauladams4367 5 років тому

    How much???????

    • @MotionRC
      @MotionRC  5 років тому

      more info coming soon

  • @masisboxingbelts
    @masisboxingbelts 5 років тому +1

    Yea horizon is definitely slowly surpassing motion rc , the choice of plane and the detailing is much better with horizon.

    • @MotionRC
      @MotionRC  5 років тому +2

      agree to disagree

  • @daniellyons6178
    @daniellyons6178 5 років тому +8

    I love freewing but I feel e flite have now taken over as the number 1 in terms of quality EDF's. 9 blade fans add to the backwards Steps freewing are taking

    • @JoshWeaverRC
      @JoshWeaverRC 5 років тому +3

      The 9 blade have their benefit. As James said, this could be for the not as advanced pilot. So think about it like this. You're flying your nice 12 blade and you can recommend to someone trying to get a decent flying jet this plane. The 9 blade will have a little more torque for taking off from grass with those nice landing gear.
      So not that FW is taking a step back, but they are taking a step to add in the side so more pilots are in the air with EDFs.
      All good my friend.

    • @Lithonion1
      @Lithonion1 5 років тому +1

      One thing nice about less blades is more flight time. I have old 90mm stuff with 6 blade fans on 1800KV I am getting 6 to 7 minutes on a 6s 5000mAh. My newer stuff with 12 blades, 3 or 4 passes, time to land.

    • @MotionRC
      @MotionRC  5 років тому +5

      E Flite are made by FMS and Freewing and FMS are pretty much Coke and Pepsi for RC jets. The real shame is there aren't more vendors making them because there would be even more options. But this inrunner rocks and the 9 blade fan helps with efficiency. And you can easily pop a 12 blade fan on it, we are all modelers at heart, wouldn't be hard. But 2020 will be a another big year with a bunch of different options coming, if this one isn't your flavor, maybe the next one will be

    • @wtfmimshag
      @wtfmimshag 5 років тому +4

      Horizon couldnt make a grass capable jet if their life depended on it, and their pricing outside of the USA is a joke. Their molds are beautiful for sure and FMS make a mean power system. Blade count is a poor measure of a power system - it's all about balancing the fan with motor specs and battery size.

    • @daniellyons6178
      @daniellyons6178 5 років тому +3

      @@wtfmimshag Not sure they've attempted to make a specifically grass capable jet yet. I have plenty of FMS jets, (who basically make e flite jets) that fly well off of grass. The new SU 30 does surprisingly well. I completely agree about e flite pricing being a crazy. That said, at least their jets look and sound the part straight out of the box. Freewing seemed to have really reined it in when it comes to scale features and even lighting systems while increasing their prices. I would have got the f22 and f18 by now if that wasn't the case. I fully understand flight performance was a major consideration in that. FMS 12 bladed inrunner fans have been notoriously brilliant in terms of efficiency and sound for years, and they come as standard. I know the Havoc was an exception though. I just love a good sounding 12 bladed inrunner. Don't get me wrong, I love Freewing and have 7 of their jets, but I do very much prefer the direction e flite/FMS are going in. Maybe the new releases will be different. I'm happy for the people who wanted this air frame though

  • @dbirds21
    @dbirds21 5 років тому

    Would it be too much too ask for a new jet with thrust vectoring. Theres plenty of the slow lethargic scaale jets to choose from. Some of us like to fly acrobatics. My su35 will rip any of these new jets

  • @hangarfiftyone3527
    @hangarfiftyone3527 5 років тому +1

    $389 and no light ? sorry James not coming to my hanger

    • @MotionRC
      @MotionRC  5 років тому

      maybe the next one will be. No worries buddy!

  • @3DJunkie
    @3DJunkie 5 років тому +3

    oh thats a shame :-(

    • @jackhawk8952
      @jackhawk8952 5 років тому +3

      Yup.. When there is an open slot for a 70mm f15 f22 and f18 super hornet and hornet 90mm f35 this is what they put out.. Huge disappointment..

    • @3DJunkie
      @3DJunkie 5 років тому

      @@jackhawk8952 Huge disappointment i agree

  • @luca5164
    @luca5164 5 років тому

    Can you give me one of these ?

  • @Farmermanrc
    @Farmermanrc 5 років тому +1

    I'm buying this ASP not ASAP ASP!!!!!!!!

  • @briankmavpro5246
    @briankmavpro5246 5 років тому +7

    Can you say ugly duckling. Pass....

    • @jamesonclark5854
      @jamesonclark5854 5 років тому

      Since you have an A10 as your picture, you of all people should know ugly planes fly great!

  • @conbonesthevoid1448
    @conbonesthevoid1448 5 років тому

    Doesn't blow my skirt up.

  • @jackhawk8952
    @jackhawk8952 5 років тому +3

    Really... All the hype for this.. Two thumbs down.. How about a 70mm F15.. Not a single vendor has one.. And im sure you would sell a but load of them.. But this i got through a total of 10 seconds of disappointment in your video.. I will give you the list people really want.. 70mm F15, 70mm F22, 90mm f35, both 70mm f18 hornet and super hornet, 90mm f18 super hornet... Not interested in a jet from before i was even born.. No thanks.. I will now purchase the 80mm eflight f18 hornet..

    • @MotionRC
      @MotionRC  5 років тому +7

      thanks for that list. there is always something on the way from us and now tons of options from lots of other vendors to be able to fly something you love. if this wasn't isn't your taste, it is for a lot of people and maybe the next one will be for you. happy flying

    • @jeffjackson6358
      @jeffjackson6358 5 років тому +1

      Jack Hawk seriously. Any vendor including MRC should cater to your wants. I already have a turbine T33 and won’t be buying this one. Buts it’s still a great plane and I appreciate anything a company puts out.

    • @jamesonclark5854
      @jamesonclark5854 5 років тому +5

      Jack Hawk, so you want ANOTHER F15 and ANOTHER F22 and ANOTHER F35 and THREE MORE F18s from Freewing and that would be fine right? But, the only T33 from them is just terrible huh? Sounds like just because it is not EXACTLY what YOU wanted, you'll just bash it for no real reason. Your argument makes zero sense about making a 70mm F15 since no one has one. Guess what......no one has a 80mm T33 either! But, there is a 64mm F15 and a 90mm F15 on the market already, go grab you one of those!

    • @jackhawk8952
      @jackhawk8952 5 років тому +1

      I have all the 64mm jets but they have no retracts and sounds like a vacuum.. 90mm are to expensive 70mm fits in my truck and in my wallet..

    • @dbirds21
      @dbirds21 5 років тому +2

      How about something different on a jet and give us thrust vectoring. Makes flying these jets so much better. I lose interest after two passes without thrust vectoring