Why Citroen and Jeep is Failing in India | Will they Survive? | Tamil Car Review | MotoWagon
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- Опубліковано 23 січ 2024
- Hello MotoFam, In this video we look at why Citroen and Jeep are not doing expected Sales in Indian Automotive Market. Will they Survive in India?. Do Watch the full video and post your thoughts in the comments.
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Great 👌🏻👌🏻
They won't even have a look at it
exactly yes@@DareDevil-js1xy
Sack their India advisor
Citroen C3 needs Automatic Variant and good features with good interior quality and better safety.
Yes.wanted topic..heard of many failures in jeep.
The brand that Stellantis needs to introduce is Fiat and not citroen, they already lost India with Peugeot,
Simple they have not got their strategy right. C3 is a great product and their engines are good, but their strategy is bad
Dear Motowagon
Your presentation "why Citroen and Jeep isn't doing well.......is just off the mold..
Excellently researched, voices the concern of so many Jeep diehards like me and couldn't have come at a better time.
I have escalated the reference to Jeep, for whatever it's worth it.
A point you probably missed is the exponential ownership cost, along with the increased pricing of their vehicles, which aspect you have mentioned.
Well done. Congratulations
I really wish that you could also present an English version.
The best!
Girija Shankar.
Really superb content na ❤ worth watching ❤
Another idea is that Stellantis should open a showroom on their name and give people options to buy brands under stellantis (Citroen, Fiat/Abarth, Jeep) by Made to order method. There will be hiccups with test drive models, but atleast that could be a better option for the brand to grow in India. Even dealers will have many models to sell.
Excellent review!! Discussion about the Stellantis group, Citroen and Jeep. Both are wonderful vehicles, their marketing strategy is really half baked or cooked. People have lost trust because of the discontinued nature & the after service. But KIA and Hyundai have different strategy, it sells like gooseberries, varieties. From pricing,engine options and gearbox options etc. Dealership in plenty. Until the stellantis group change their strategy nothing is going to happen.
Jeep ... Showroom and service
Citroen ... Features and models
Stelantis engine. Safari 2.2 varicor , scorpio 2.2 m hawk, latest hector, safari,compass
Really?!!
Really Excellent Presentation..👏👏
Mass video..Asir bro you just nailed it
Excellent review on better brand which are struggling in market due to bad market strategy. Hope C3 will improve their presence in India as it is an all round car.
Citroen C3 is best car compare to other brands in this price segment. But due to poor marketing and show room unavailability they are struggling
Fiat as brand…cars are made like tank
But Italians not able to understand simple matter when it comes to India right from 90s
When Fiat UNO got 3 lakh bookings…. Failed to harvest which taken away my Maruti Suzuki
Good swot analysis...i forward to concern team
Really good review given good and useful information, your are did case study and market analysis for the stellantis group, first they want increase showrooms and service facilites and provide value for money product, then they growup automatically, congratulations stellantis team..
What a detailed analysis bro..as usual, clear and neatly understandable informative video
Appreciate your efforts involved
Yepdiya nee ippdi ivlo knowledge ooda compile panni pesara.. Sema superb to the core, ppl should hire you in automobile as an consultant.
you said it bro, I'm a Citroen c3 turbo variant. Its a nice product but because of lack of features its struggling in the market to exist. I’m also worried will this product exist in India?
Very good review 👌👌👍
Service cost an spare very costly 👍
Fantastic Sir, really informative
Just giving my exp on one similar story. I had 8-9 lakhs budget for a micro suv- hatchback and zeroed on magnite. But decided to look other way coz nissan has only one model and underpowered engine for that. May be if there are more models or a more powerful 1.2 litre engine i would have bought that car.
Excellent analysis
Stellantis concentrating more on South Asian countries only
Super explanation sir 👌
@motowagan and moto family I bought a preowned jeep compass 2018 model petrol automatic with 45k driven km on july 2023 so far I covered 7k km from mu I had good drive and lot of good memories in the car few weeks back transmission by seeing error show room has told its abs sensor issue and same replaced later again got the same showroom another abs sensor got failed.... shall I have this car by fixing the issue another 3yrs or sell it immediately and go for creata or hyryder manual ??? Please your thoughts and advise required😢
Jeep Video Start at 16:13
Asir sir.. could you do a video on why Jimny failed and it's future in India?
Well said and explained
Sangyong story um solunga sir..
You are exactly correct about sales end. In tiruvarur Suzuki upgrade their showroom and small tent for nexa. After immediately Hyundai open their showroom with service near nexa outlet. Suddenly tata,Mahindra extended their outlet and Kia, Toyota extended their relationship manager to people's end. But Citroen group lost in their strategy.
Hi Motowagon team,
Pls Add English sub to your videos..
You guys deserve more followers.
Exactly citroen C3 aircross is beautiful car but they missed market and advertising.
Asir bro. nan toyota brand. Vachurukken kia carens diesel imt T board. edukkalama???? maintenance. Spares supply. Ok vaa????
They didn't not invest in mass marketing and missed reaching tier 2 & 3, positioning was confusing and product mix is also confusing to many and your analysis is bang on..
I really feel bad that such a product had to go down with poor marketing.
My uncle works in manufacturing, he makes body shell for citron, he asked to run away from citron, they have bad QA, manfacturing is done ols style, for eg : welding is done manually using welding gun and its not a robotic hands.
😂 proud to make in India pure handmade products
@@Jazz_di_di hahaha
All others brand (which are doing well) are working on sunday but Citroen won’t be open they lack dedication and customer service people from Citroen showroom should learn customer handling from kia and hyundai dealer especially KUN owned outlets
Excellent 👍
But ec3 electirc was a success. It is the best hatch back of the year (auto car india). Ec3 is very comfortable and affordable when compared to tiago.ev.
Good content
Hello sir..
I'm interested to buy an suv in one or two months..
Usually I love to drive but not that enthusiastically (means hardly cross 100km/hr.,drives 70-100km/hr)..so turbo variants not suitable for me,I think(need ur opinion)
My family contains 4 members..rarely boards 5th member..
Which brand suv should I go,sir?
I have creta or seltos in my mind..is that ok..
Need ur opinion..
Sir, i'm planning to buy jeep - meridian, your suggestions, can i go for it?
Jeep compass the best within 25 lakhs . It is premium brand
2 litre 170 hp even bmw x1 148 hp only and twice the price higher in on road and maintaince . Drive the compass you will definitely feel the turbo ❤ ❤❤
Sir, i am planning to buy jeep compass Limited is it value for money.my usage is less Earlier i driven Volkswagen polo what is your opinion your suggestion please
Bro fiat again India ku vara chance irukum soluranga athu sure ?
@motowagon One more reason for Jeep poor sales is high maintenance cost. As an owner of a Jeep Compass, I can feel the high maintenance cost compared to other brands. Because of the high maintenance cost, many people sold their Compass and switched to other brand vehicles. Also, the closing of outlets in many cities including Tirunelveli impacted the sales.
As you said, the brand Jeep has good potential. Once you start driving Jeep compass, you will not be satisfied with other cars (Creta, MG Hector, Harrier, etc). The ride quality is too good.
First comment #from_karnataka
S I am owning C3 since January 2023. If top model of Shine was available at that time I could have purchased Shine. They are releasing varients on installment. Infotainment system gives problem they could not sort it out till now a small software issue but.... They have to do lot of homework. They can bring some plenty of beautiful models running all over the world to India. As you explained beautifully whether Company will get into .
One thing I must say is comfortable driving no doubt for that I purchased. Thank you motowagon.🎉
Dear Brother Good morning. Fantastic video. One of the best video I have ever seen. Anna you given the exact points they should consider 100%. Kindly place the option of subtitle so even non tamil people also can understand. I will share this video to the Stellantis group through Linked in. As you have mentioned & I have also personally feel as these brands should get a deserved place in India. Since well crafted engine. Well design, superior comfort, Driving dynamic. Since i have worked in Car sales I can also add few points. Well said when people see the brands very often their mind will automatically thinks about it. How today maruti success one of the reason they used to open stalls everyday near by banks,malls,super market. So when people see this brand frequently it will definitely crawls in to their mind. They should open a composite showroom for Jeep,Citroen,Fiat initially in Tier 1 & 2 at the earliest & slowly by tier 3 cities. Buyer will also look into the resale value. So they should consider that. Well said they should stop sell their engines to other car manufactures. I think you have mentioned. Maruti & Toyota alliance. But Maruti can sell like a hot cake. Toyota cleverly formed this alliance. People have a mindset they can buy Maruti product 18-20 lakhs beyond that they will go for Toyota brand somewhat premium according to their perspective. Apart from this particular content. I personally feel as the best analytical skills of yourself & your team. Which helps us to think everything in a different angle. So this case studies are common & general for everyone apart from Cars. Thanks a lot for this wonderful video. God bless you all. Take care👍🏻
Ithea mathiri Volvo Ku oru video podunga
I went to buy C3 Aircross, reason I didn't buy, No foldable key, no co passenger Arm rest, Automatic, middle seats not adjustable and Sunroof. If they fix these give with Captain seat option, C3 Aircross will be Game changer.
Adding features to ec3 is again a miss.. they should have done it for c3 hatch and soon bring few more basic facilities...they could have priced more aggressively considering the cheap features used on their products and gave the market like Renault did with kwid.. that is the issue.. as you said it is really possible for a manufacturer to provide, but the consulting team who did market analysis has directed them in wrong direction.. they have now delayed c3x launch to reconsider on features to be included.. their final ticket to survive in india(when they did testing of c3 without camouflage with the intent to popularise the product they should have also read the reviews given by automobi reviewers about mentioning like it may not be the top model being tested as they dont see ACC and many other modern day basic features). wanted to have variety of groups to operate in India as otherwise people will have limited options to chose and settle unhappily with it..
Kia set best example how to penetrate get mass market - Mid size SUV. They clearly win inspite of there is already market leader creta in first position in sales numbers. Still Seltos makes incredible consistent sales every month. I am proud owner of Seltos diesel.
Sub 4 meter suv type jeep with economic price and mileage automatic. Promise warranty and service any where india with affordable price.Sucess very near to the beautiful group.Really indian people love this brand JEEP❤.Proud to be a owner of jeep
Dear stellantis hire this guy as ur marketing head😂🔥
They are making the same mistake that Fiat did in the past. Less showrooms, lack of service centre, no clear vision like KIA, plus Jeep as a premium brand has heavy competition.
Very true.. showroom looks too good🎉 but car c3 too cheap in quality and looks.
I partially agree with these statements, I'll tell you the reason why..
Before we do the critic should keep in mind a few points.
> Driver centric & comfort in their DNA/vehicle Architecture from basic segments.
>The Material, Process, Durability, Weatherability conditions are not the same in the competative product segments.
>Pls keep in mind Lookalike doesn't mean it's the same.
Hence the comparison between Korean/ Indian OEM's is itself Counterfactual, but if you see Europian/US Architectures these are (comfort,Drivability, safety) basics and good for long driving without fatigue.
And the other Question comes here, why are Korean car makers sales high ?
Unfortunately Indian car buyers choice/expectation is very limited, few of those i pointed.
>would need everything (Good in styling, dashing looks, doesn't mind about safety features, comfort, Drivability,body roll over & so-on...)
>With all these above conditions,Car should be also at a lower cost.
So Koreans are having a good time, understanding the typical Indian mindsets well and using this opportunity.
But European/US practice of Architecture won't allow such violations & no compromise.
I specifically worked on Engineering teardown this product C3 & eC3 benchmarking with Punch,Ignis,Baleno with the competative segment vehicles for a cost saving project, the results are very insightful Materials , features, processes are not same this results in the price difference hence it's incomparable..
Fortunately we could see this situation is slowly changing and people are really getting awareness about these engineering stuffs..
Got an offer for C5. I am waiting for XUV700 delivery, I thought , why not give c5 a go ? Saw your videos on c5 and other videos too. One thing which they go pretty much wrong is pricing. C5 should be placed below 30L. The extra cost just for suspension doesnt justify imo. The FSD on xuv700 is not bad either. Given the Road tax in TN , Citroen should price c5 competitively. Also when i enquired , many of my friends told to get innova for that price point just to have peace of mind regarding service.
I really wish Citroen rethink the pricing startegy.
I owned Fiat Punto it’s an excellent reliable vehicle and cheap to own too… but service is real pain service centres will keep the vehicles for a week and do service in a relaxed way. Especially VTK mopar service centre in Kattupakkam Chennai. Even the same pain felt by Jeep owners with the service experience. Even I wanted to upgrade to compass but end up in buying Hyundai. So it’s a main downside and service cost is 18k minimum cost .
We were looking for upgrade from Vento to Compass. Dropped the Jeep due to Poor attention to customers from Sales team ( Jeep OMRChennai)
Sir, I have bad phone. This Maniratnam style is too dark. I can’t see any car.
After I started watching motowagon channel, I stopped reading teambhp blogs 😂
Bro Nissan teana car video podunga
100% correct.....
Thanks 👍 mw
It is a wake up call for Stellantis in India. Despite having goods products they should not fail in indian market.
Asir bro trying so hard to make Jeep survive few years so that he can buy Compass before they exit India
I feel that Jeep is an SUV based car maker. They should focus more on micro SUV in 8L-12L*, compact SUV in 10L-16L* & mid size SUV in 12L- 20L*.
* ex-showroom.
I really want to buy Citroen C3 but my friends are warning not to buy. And if I buy I am advised not to take it outside Chennai because no service center is available. I am very confused and also with its ncap not being tested so far.
Best car 2023 (which we voted) results pls ?
We are working with latest features updates on current models....Hopefully next year
Why you didn't do podcast on punch ev 😢😢😢 But you made podcast on creta
Is it Hyundai and Kia same engine?
I think service cost is lower than other brands even suzuki...i paid around 2700 Rs for 2nd service for NA c3
They fail to understand the Indian customers, Service engineers should be trained well for their products. Especially, in Jeep's repeated issues, etc. Although they are ahead of safety features should have innovations in the market space. I own a Jeep and a Fiat which are Marvellous gems. Sad that they lose their respect.
I agree with most of the points.
In my view Citroen failure appears to be mainly due 2 reasons, primarily misunderstanding that the Indian market is for cheap cars but reality is Indians look for value in the car, if it is a cheap car market then nobody would be buying overpriced Innova and Fortuner.
Secondly, maybe due to arrogance, no company should try to dictate what feature customers should be enjoying, let people decide what they need and the car maker should provide multiple options.
Actually Citroen c3 had great potential to fill the space left by Punto and Polo. I myself after selling my Punto was waiting this European car with much expectation but found to be Citroen not interested in India.
Also the arrogance of the sales executive when dealing with customers to improved.
When I asked for a test drive they Informed me that first you pay and book the car then only will provide the test drive , if not satisfied will refund the booking amount.
They think selling c3 to a as though they are doing some favour .
I agreed with your points I booked for test drive the sales person called and asked me sir c3 aircross starts @ 14 lakh are you okay with that it means that are you capable to pay 14 lakh. It's very bad approach he have to assign a test drive then we will decide but here the strategy is bad.
*Hi MotoWagon Fam,... Is it worth buying an Fiat Punto (model b/w 2010 to 2014) Diesel for a mid range family with budget between 1.5L to 2L in 2024??*
I am having the same doubt brother.
i am a 12yr grande punto owner and if i could see fiat pulse... i am definitely in 🙂
@MotoWagon . Hyundai and kia running on same engine. Hope that eas your highlighting 25:02
Feel the same... VW/Skoda is also similar but I think he only meant Korean ones based on the fact that they are doing good sales
Mitsubishi Montero review pls
Two brands running with the same engine.. Toyota and Maruthi Suzuki??
💯 true. ,உங்களுக்கு தெரியுது , crores la salary vaangi இது கூட தெரியல இவங்களுக்கு..😤🤦😂😂. SRK range இல்லனா கூட, ஒரு Dulquer Salmaan, அல்லு அர்ஜுன் range la South Indian actors podalam..
First competetive pricing they need to do .
Thanks for video!
I am thinking of cancelling my C3T booking that i did mid nov 2023. i chose to wait for MY2024 car. my dealer saying MY24 production not started and it will take minimum 2 months to get MY24 car. He says still only may 2023 car is gettimg alloted from Citroen.
Bro any reason not to buy 2023 model because they provided 1 lakh discount for turbo model in the month of October to December
it was may 2023 car. there were rusts on wheels and dirt on door gaps suggesting poor storage. difficult to go with it as first car
They should bring back Fiat. #bringbackfiatin
This type of content would be better with a slide show on the data you are speaking. That would have more Impact.
Can speak at least 50% slow.!! Buy some lights as well please. 😢 Dark background and dark costume really needs better lights.
Why didnt jeep bring its renegade?
I will say only one thing 😁 shall i ...
Citroen should hire proper sales person..
Who his having willingness to do more ground work ... Live wire persons are missing....athan oreee reason
Big Big Big Disadvantage From Fiat Itself Is Advertising The Brand Product.. Still Tier 2,3 Dont Jeep Is Separate Brand And Dont Know Citroen. Worst Marketing
Sir compass top end started with 30lakh on road for manual 4x4 now it is 42 lakh for 9 speed auto ..12 lakh difference just for an auto,they are not able to price it properly …there lies the problem ..a great car ruined by poor pricing and just 1 dealership in each town to create monopoly …sad state …
Compass manual diesel sport model on road 24 lakhs
Jeep compass- over priced, Diesel version Hard clutch😢, petrol under power engine with low fuel mileage😭🤦♂️🔥
Fiat again punto linea reborn pana Volkswagen ,skoda ku equal pana chance iruku .
The Citroen showroom running on Pondicherry
25:05 is that Honda & Renault Nissan 😅!
Only FIAT Reborn can change all negatives into positive...Single move avlodhan
description la irukum description la irukum nu solluringa. anga onum illa. ipadiku neerumaiyana motofam
Old model Jeep interior very poor look. Current Jeep interior very decent look but over priced. When it's come under 20 to 25 Lacs it's get huge success. Price only the big problem.