As a trump supporter I completely agree, trump or bidens level of rhetoric is no more than middle school level, but trump gets shet done and that’s what matters, more than anything else
You can say death from a thousand knives. Each knife represents jobs lost due to the ease of outsourcing, thanks to NAFTA. People lost their high-paying jobs, and they are now angry. The thing is, people don't know where to put their anger at. Right-wing media is constantly finding new ways to channel that anger without actually solving the source of that anger. Large segments of the population have lost their ability to form cohesive thoughts.
@@lanea8764 this is actually insane. Both the right and the left have devolved into pure stupidity. The left just responds to the ridiculousness and unprofessional rhetoric that Trump has made normal in today's political world. The world is really going downhill.
Mitt Romney and Barack Obama, greeted each other, called each other Mr. President and Mr. Senator and respected each other as if they were both looking for the interest of the United States of America… exactly what it should be from the get…
None of this started until the 2016 elections. And you know what else was an important factor in the 2016 elections? Trumps’ unorthodox, brash and viscous nature that you fools touted as the savior complex needed for this country.
2012: "I appreciate you and all you American people" "You get to choose what path we take" 2016: "Crooked Hillary!" "HAHAHAHAHA WOOF WOOF" 2020: "The election is rigged" "I got hairy legs; they turn blond in the sun!" 2024: "uhhhhhhhadfiuh weofwefhiwefiaweif" "I don't know what he just said and I think you don't either"
Remember when people used to think that they were disrespectful to each other, and overall thought that they were both unpresidential? Now looking back they both seem like absolutely perfect candidates...
Yes! I remember people complaining about how rude and uncivilized they were. Absolutely, absolutely crazy that in just little over 10 years they look like the most civilized and respectful individuals around.
@@Jon-hx7pe Not to defend either Romney or Obama and I agree with everything you said that they were terrible pro-war, pro-globalism neacon puppets but so are both the current candidates.
It’s funny that this was posted ONE DAY AGO… like someone knew we all needed to be reminded what an actual president sounds like. Obama, I miss you as president!
Obama referenced it in an interview with CNN. Obama said that this was a poor debate for him. So I think everyone wants to compare what is percieved to be a poor debate, and what we saw yesterday. The difference is startling Joe Biden has no business being in office.
in both 2008 and 2012, i think regardless of which candidate had won the presidency, the winner would have done great things for the country. obama, mccain, and romney were all candidates who had good ideas of their own and wanted to serve the country. now we have biden, who means well but given the debate last night really does not have the energy for this job anymore, and trump, someone who only cares for himself and avoiding accountability.
@@tchitchouan It was never supposed to be about entertainment. The state of things now are sad and embarrassing for both sides. It's definitely not fun to see our country represented by either current candidate.
@@twe8k This is embarrassing. Political platforms that affect hundreds of millions of Americans should not be seen as a game. Politics should be as boring and rational as possible, and Obama and Romney nailed this.
I may be wrong, but I seem to remember back in 2012 people felt like these were the wildest and most comedic debates of all time. If only we knew it would only get worse and worse
@@tanmay3745think it’s because his wife threatened to divorce him if he re-ran. Probably a strain on the wife during the 2012 campaign she didn’t want to go through again
I was 12 yo and literally thought this was the most boring event ever 12 years later I’d give an arm and a leg for debates to not sound like a WWE script I miss having competent candidates I wasn’t even old enough to vote for
He’s also more of a centrist candidate since he’s mormon (who typically have more democratic views than typical republicans) so he’d be the best option for both parties 😭
No, he lost because he was a no good moderate. He would have been a continuation of Bush Policies that expanded under Obama. Good Riddance to Mitt RINO.😊
Guys like Romney can't win، he doesn't appeal to the Trump base that only come out to vote for "maga" and there isn't enough of "centrist" voters to make him win .
The ideal president would have to be Libertarian, because it takes one to acknowledge the pros and cons of both major political party perspectives, and act reasonably in a way that benefits the majority of Americans. Barack is likely a libertarian, but you don't become president by calling yourself that, so you must pick a side.
@@BodDiv If I was able to vote back then I would definitely choose Romney as his point of view makes total sense to where the government should not be involved with the American people. As a small business owner, it's up to us to optimize our business to save and innovate, not the government.
if there is a minimum age requirement to be president (35 years old), then there definitely should be a maximum age requirement (probably the retirement age of 65-70 years old) and if you are over that age, you should be immediately kicked out!! How in the world nearly 80 year old, senile men are allowed to take on the most difficult job of running an entire country is absolutely unbelievable
@@isaacr7416 They would either be running against a convicted felon impeached reality show star ex-president. Or a guy who cant speak in complete sentences. They would probably get 90% of the vote 😂
Came here after trump and biden debate. Man this is whole another level. Both of them respect each other and talking about plans and programs. This is how US presidential debate should have been.
Oh how we fell so badly that even presidential debates are ludicrous to the point that it is now an entertainment rather than something to take seriously.
Just watched this after the debate. Defeating to think that this kind of classy, charming, and civil exchange was once a reality. May the best ideas win rather than two old men babbling about rape and death and WW3.
It just feels so odd how civil and professional both candidates were and this was only 12 years ago. The fact that this country has taken such a drastic and awful downward spiril with the people both parties have chosen to represent their respective parties should be shameful. No professionalism to do the job right.
Speaking as a non american and just looking at this from the outside. A lot of this lost of professionalism started in 2016. Trump was the funnyman, he made memes and was entertaining and he had such charisma and personality that people loved him even though he wasn't professional, he got people mad and made people laugh and listen to him, like the whole "build a wall" thing. Then you had "right wing" content creators just making this whole "culture war" happen by making people mad, blaming everything on the woke left, making lies and misinformation about trans people to cause so much hate for people who just want to live their lives. Then you had companies making bad products and tried using LGBT people as a shield and you combine all these together to cause the current issue we have today. If those right wing youtubers stopped weaponizing people hatred and stopped targeting people, if Trump wasn't in the running for president and companies made better products, then more civil and professionalism would return to the world. Oh yea and get Biden into a nursing home.
Compared to what I watched a couple hours ago, this is a sad and refreshing take of what all of us were hoping to get from a debate of value. Instead we got a debate of "great value".
We would take either of these two in a heartbeat now!!! They are cordial and have respect for one another even though they don't agree on some things and they also shake hands and smile. We literally have none of this going on right now in this country. We have fallen so far since 2016.
they didn't like trump so those type of republicans were ostracized from the GOP. we've gone from anti-communist republicans to worshipping one person republicans
They both respectfully disagree with what each other say, and you can tell they really dont have any personal grudges against each other. You lose sight on what you have until you end up losing it.
The way they shook hands. The way they addressed one another with dignity. The way Mitt even gave a kind nod to Michelle out of respect. We're living in a downgrade.
Having taken a decade class it's crazy how they actually follow the formatting and rules. You thank the moderator, thank the audience and acknowledge your opponent respectfully and start with a little funny quip to get people's attention. This is professional.
Had Obama lost, he would've been eligible for another term and Romney winning would've meant no Trump. We could see Obama doing a Cleveland in 2016 or 2020 after Romney finished his 2 terms
The degradation of articulation and civility from 2012 to 2024 is truly shocking
As a trump supporter I completely agree, trump or bidens level of rhetoric is no more than middle school level, but trump gets shet done and that’s what matters, more than anything else
Real
Yes, it’s unfortunate that the 2024 debate last night was what it was, a debacle.
@@kev5710What did he get done? I’m genuinely interested.
I was just about to comment about the same thing.
They were actually civil, well mannered and respectful. What has this country come to.
4 years (or less if you count the primaries) later somone.... came on the scene.
Yeah I really gotta go with there being one person who ruined the civility.
@@Thety1243 yep, you just have to go to the 2016 debate to see the shouting and interrupting coming in
fr tho. we are going downhill
You can say death from a thousand knives. Each knife represents jobs lost due to the ease of outsourcing, thanks to NAFTA. People lost their high-paying jobs, and they are now angry. The thing is, people don't know where to put their anger at. Right-wing media is constantly finding new ways to channel that anger without actually solving the source of that anger. Large segments of the population have lost their ability to form cohesive thoughts.
Although civility is important, I miss having candidates that just look alive
Me when the candidates actually speak confidently, talk policy, and not freeze halfway through their segment: 😮
RIGHT?! wtf happened? we have two dead ppl as candidates for president. god help us
Picky
Disliking politics is the first step to fascism. I'd recommend you pay better attention to the issues with this perspective.
@@Birdnarvaez I would correct that and say not liking and thus not participating in politics is the first step towards fascism.
Who’s here after Trump and Biden debate ?
Me. We’ve fallen so far as a people
Me haha
They posted this 1 day ago. So everyone
The candidates have only gotten more polarizing
me hehehe
Came here to see how far we’ve fallen.
Yeah, your last 2 administration have been crazy and paranoid.
Yup so sad the world ended in 2012 😢 take me back!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
2012
2024 Yes ...this far
we all came here for that
why cant we have these types of debates again 😭😭
😢😢they are both too old 😅
Someday man someday
@@lanea8764 this is actually insane. Both the right and the left have devolved into pure stupidity. The left just responds to the ridiculousness and unprofessional rhetoric that Trump has made normal in today's political world. The world is really going downhill.
We don't deserve them 🤕
Because people voted for incompetency in the primaries.
Mitt Romney and Barack Obama, greeted each other, called each other Mr. President and Mr. Senator and respected each other as if they were both looking for the interest of the United States of America… exactly what it should be from the get…
and they are both warmongers, whats your point?
@@Sprezzy_ This is true, America has always been a trrst state, Obama was no better.
@@Sprezzy_ Can you not read?
Romney was not a senator
People will say this and vote for 1 of the 2 bozos any way. Either vote for a 3rd party or don't vote at all.
how did we go from this to “my son was not a sucker not a loser, you’re the sucker, you’re the loser!”😂
🤣🤣
We elected someone who lies like he breathes, lives to entertain and has normalized viciousness.
Because Trump, Trump and Trump. Dont know why you would make fun of Biden when its all Trump.
None of this started until the 2016 elections. And you know what else was an important factor in the 2016 elections? Trumps’ unorthodox, brash and viscous nature that you fools touted as the savior complex needed for this country.
@@Moosefeltyeah i don’t like trump either but you gotta admit they both sounded dumb
This is night and day compared to modern day
Modern day debate
2012: "I appreciate you and all you American people" "You get to choose what path we take"
2016: "Crooked Hillary!" "HAHAHAHAHA WOOF WOOF"
2020: "The election is rigged" "I got hairy legs; they turn blond in the sun!"
2024: "uhhhhhhhadfiuh weofwefhiwefiaweif" "I don't know what he just said and I think you don't either"
more proof that the world ended in 2012
Wow, you’re so awesome and mature bro
@@jocnissa6801 your sarcasm (lowest form of wit by the way) is just a coping mechanism to avoid the unpleasant fact that it's true!
@@jocnissa6801 if him accurately explaining the current state of American politics warrants this comment then it just shows how right he is
2028: Watering crops with Brawndo
Remember when people used to think that they were disrespectful to each other, and overall thought that they were both unpresidential? Now looking back they both seem like absolutely perfect candidates...
Hahahaha, if this is "disrepectfull" then I don't know the word for this year debate
Uh no one thought that… they were both perfect candidates and we’ve fallen so much
Yes! I remember people complaining about how rude and uncivilized they were. Absolutely, absolutely crazy that in just little over 10 years they look like the most civilized and respectful individuals around.
@@superwin9000 you're wrong. I remember hearing that.
@@superwin9000 Ehh there was definitely some comments about "rudeness" back then. Of course in hindsight, this was very respectful and civilized.
2 professionals. I would’ve happily voted for either of these men.
Civil doesn’t mean correct just to be sure. But yes Romney over trump definitrly
Yeah, if either of these two ran against Trump or Biden, they would win in a landslide.
@@TheMrBlackSanta I sometimes wonder if Romney should just run again
@@Elitecataphract he should. he has very good policies. coming from a centrist dem
@@Elitecataphract Crazy that he would probably be elected with a landslide if he ran again against either of the current two candidates
Back when you could vote for a genuine favorite, not just the better of two terrible options.
So true 😢
both of those options were terrible- pro-war, pro-globalism neocon puppets. but certainly they certainly presented better?
@@Jon-hx7pe Not to defend either Romney or Obama and I agree with everything you said that they were terrible pro-war, pro-globalism neacon puppets but so are both the current candidates.
@@Jon-hx7pe oh come on
@@Jon-hx7peBaby’s first leftism lmao
This is what we call a real debate .No personal attack, just talking about the political strategy, not the candidate.
It’s funny that this was posted ONE DAY AGO… like someone knew we all needed to be reminded what an actual president sounds like. Obama, I miss you as president!
Civil Conversations,in my America? SNAP BACK TO REALITY
They knew what they were doing😂
Obama referenced it in an interview with CNN. Obama said that this was a poor debate for him. So I think everyone wants to compare what is percieved to be a poor debate, and what we saw yesterday. The difference is startling Joe Biden has no business being in office.
@jackt4595 oh, there goes gravity
Obama is tied with Joe Biden as the worst president the United States has ever had.
The difference between the debates in 2024 and 2012 is crazy
America become old year by year
The old era where debates were very professional and civil. Our generation just made our debates now a laughing stock.
I’m Republican but Obama was def well spoken and presidential.
I'm a progressive but I truly respect Romney's good faith and honesty and courtesy in his answers and the way he presents himself.
in both 2008 and 2012, i think regardless of which candidate had won the presidency, the winner would have done great things for the country. obama, mccain, and romney were all candidates who had good ideas of their own and wanted to serve the country. now we have biden, who means well but given the debate last night really does not have the energy for this job anymore, and trump, someone who only cares for himself and avoiding accountability.
Romney was also well spoken and presidental. Both of them were. Obama handled it good, but I'm sure Romney would have been good choice as well.
Well spoke? He edited the Harvard law journal, not some joke like what we have
this is such a breath of fresh air. What a president used to look like. Bring back young Presidents with class
Lesson learned lol no presidents over the age 60…
We had 2 civil candidates. I miss this 😪
Nah the circus is more fun
THIS IS BORING
trump vs biden is more fun
@@tchitchouan It was never supposed to be about entertainment. The state of things now are sad and embarrassing for both sides. It's definitely not fun to see our country represented by either current candidate.
@@twe8k This is embarrassing. Political platforms that affect hundreds of millions of Americans should not be seen as a game. Politics should be as boring and rational as possible, and Obama and Romney nailed this.
@@tchitchouan you are the exact reason for it. Toxic
When debates made sense.
Who's here after the 2024 presidential debate?
All of us, this was posted 1 day ago lol
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@@blank________who’s here after dune 2
I may be wrong, but I seem to remember back in 2012 people felt like these were the wildest and most comedic debates of all time. If only we knew it would only get worse and worse
I came back to see the difference in debates, topics, and mannerisms especially.
We need a new set of Presidential candidates. It's like picking the best of the worse
Abilities to form complete sentences, above average levels of intelligence!
@@LoganSuzuki-hy6wuik, both of them are idiots
The last civil and normal presidential debate. 😢
I am no Mitt fan but i almost wish he had won back in 2012 because it would have prevented Trump from running in 2016.
Why didn't Mitt run in 2016 btw?
Very good point never thought of that
@@tanmay3745because mitt Romney was a bad candidate that can't win a national election
@@tanmay3745think it’s because his wife threatened to divorce him if he re-ran. Probably a strain on the wife during the 2012 campaign she didn’t want to go through again
They’re SO RESPECTFUL
This was the first debate I remember at 10 years old, and now at 22 it's so wild how much we've fallen since this
I was 12 yo and literally thought this was the most boring event ever
12 years later I’d give an arm and a leg for debates to not sound like a WWE script
I miss having competent candidates I wasn’t even old enough to vote for
@@sinbad7090lmao same, 12 years old to now.. exactly like a wwe script. Despicable
Civil, professional, dynamic, actually sane and not braindead, articulate. Why can’t the USA offer such candidates in 2024?
Because it decided to be great again
Absolutely unbelievable. This level of mental clarity, kindness, and... humanity? Is something I took for granted at the time.
Obama key points.
Clear messaging
Precise points
Defining the differences between policies
It isn't hard imagine people back then going to the polls and *proudly* vote for either of them.
Mitt Romney should've been the republican candidate
As a former Republican. I agree. Romney had class.
He’s also more of a centrist candidate since he’s mormon (who typically have more democratic views than typical republicans) so he’d be the best option for both parties 😭
No, he lost because he was a no good moderate. He would have been a continuation of Bush Policies that expanded under Obama. Good Riddance to Mitt RINO.😊
Guys like Romney can't win، he doesn't appeal to the Trump base that only come out to vote for "maga" and there isn't enough of "centrist" voters to make him win .
Boring. Where is the talk about their golf scores???
H a h a h a 😂😂😂
.....even somewhat miserable
😂😂😂
Just watching to see how normal presidential candidates used to be
What have we come to? We went from civil debate to geriatric felon vs dementia patient
Awaaawahahaha... EXACTLY!
Biden doesn't have dementia but he was feeble.
I like how obama isn’t afraid to say Romney and him agree on things.
its a way to see both sides, but this is 2024 "MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME AND IF ITS NOT ME, YOUR DONE NOT ME, YOUR DONE."
The ideal president would have to be Libertarian, because it takes one to acknowledge the pros and cons of both major political party perspectives, and act reasonably in a way that benefits the majority of Americans. Barack is likely a libertarian, but you don't become president by calling yourself that, so you must pick a side.
@@BodDiv If I was able to vote back then I would definitely choose Romney as his point of view makes total sense to where the government should not be involved with the American people. As a small business owner, it's up to us to optimize our business to save and innovate, not the government.
We never knew how good we got it
Until it’s gone
they look so young compared to trump and biden 💀
If age is what strikes you then god bless you.
if there is a minimum age requirement to be president (35 years old), then there definitely should be a maximum age requirement (probably the retirement age of 65-70 years old) and if you are over that age, you should be immediately kicked out!! How in the world nearly 80 year old, senile men are allowed to take on the most difficult job of running an entire country is absolutely unbelievable
Bill Clinton was president in the 90s and he's younger than Trump and Biden
Exactly, it’s time to change the age limit when you can’t run for president anymore 😭🙏🏽
so weird seeing black haired men under 80 years old
Run for presidential election and see what will happen to you
Came here for a palate cleanser to remind myself what a presidential debate in the USA is supposed to look like.
oh, so a presidential debate CAN be intelligent and respectful, didn't know that...
If this is debate , then what was that happend between trump and biden last night 😂
It was celebrity deathmatch, the OG show
Last night was a thanksgiving night between two uncomfortable grandparent that we all know we have !
@@diegowooh96
Yeah, one is narcissistic and crazy, the other one don't know what he's talking about.
It was a circus act 🤦♀️
A nursing home argument.
if either of them were running this year they'd get like 80% of the popular vote 😭
I really wonder how true that is 😂
@@isaacr7416 They would either be running against a convicted felon impeached reality show star ex-president. Or a guy who cant speak in complete sentences. They would probably get 90% of the vote 😂
This is beautiful to watch after last night’s disaster
Came here after trump and biden debate. Man this is whole another level. Both of them respect each other and talking about plans and programs. This is how US presidential debate should have been.
can we just have these two guys on the ballot again than two blind old men?
Watching after 2024 Biden v Trump… night and day!!
They fighting like kid's
Oh how we fell so badly that even presidential debates are ludicrous to the point that it is now an entertainment rather than something to take seriously.
That " entertainment " is gonna leading your life for the next 4 years man. Good lyck with that
Obama would so easily destroy any current politician in a debate…
65 years old vs 51 years old
Oh, it’s beautiful
I think this Obama guy's gonna win
Idk...seems like a close call 😮😮
Lol
Agree. I’m really impressed with his policies here. Fingers crossed. I hope he wins
Romney is a candidate I would vote for right about now
Me too!
Compared to both current candidate? It's night and day
facts!
Bro we need to return to having quality candidates that both respect each other and their nation
Come on America....you used to be "AWESOMEEEEE"....
Now they’re great
If Romney won, then Trump would have never ran...
PHACTZ !
This feels like a fresh of breath air compared to the biden vs trump 2024.
Just watched this after the debate. Defeating to think that this kind of classy, charming, and civil exchange was once a reality. May the best ideas win rather than two old men babbling about rape and death and WW3.
And that collectively we have already lost. Lost our way and lost another four years.
Let's not forget golf.
Omg why does everybody keep forgetting about the third old man RFK 😆
@@QuintinMurrellHe's 100% the best for us this election.
@@christinem894 😂😂😂😂😂😂
It just feels so odd how civil and professional both candidates were and this was only 12 years ago. The fact that this country has taken such a drastic and awful downward spiril with the people both parties have chosen to represent their respective parties should be shameful. No professionalism to do the job right.
Speaking as a non american and just looking at this from the outside. A lot of this lost of professionalism started in 2016. Trump was the funnyman, he made memes and was entertaining and he had such charisma and personality that people loved him even though he wasn't professional, he got people mad and made people laugh and listen to him, like the whole "build a wall" thing. Then you had "right wing" content creators just making this whole "culture war" happen by making people mad, blaming everything on the woke left, making lies and misinformation about trans people to cause so much hate for people who just want to live their lives. Then you had companies making bad products and tried using LGBT people as a shield and you combine all these together to cause the current issue we have today. If those right wing youtubers stopped weaponizing people hatred and stopped targeting people, if Trump wasn't in the running for president and companies made better products, then more civil and professionalism would return to the world. Oh yea and get Biden into a nursing home.
Any of these candidates could dog-walk both of the candidates in the 2024 debate at the same time
Could you imagine them debating Trump? I would pay money to make this happen. Biden too. 😂
I wonder if 20 years from now we will have presidents arguing over how much followers they have on their TikTok account
If you really think about it, if Mitt won, we would've never had Trump or even Biden.
Or a country
@@moggingyou💀
It’s like I’m mourning this time period
3:32 Imagine Biden/Trump saying something like this about each other....
What a difference from last night's debate!
This coming in my recommendations today is honestly perfect timing
Can we have this back please?
Compared to what I watched a couple hours ago, this is a sad and refreshing take of what all of us were hoping to get from a debate of value. Instead we got a debate of "great value".
a good timing to upload this
They did it for a reason
@@Jayyyyyyyyyyyyyykkkkkkk they've got a plan
We would take either of these two in a heartbeat now!!! They are cordial and have respect for one another even though they don't agree on some things and they also shake hands and smile. We literally have none of this going on right now in this country. We have fallen so far since 2016.
Obama ❤
I really miss the Mitt Romney and Ronald Reagan Republicans. Where did they all go?
Also McCain. Decent conservatives
they didn't like trump so those type of republicans were ostracized from the GOP. we've gone from anti-communist republicans to worshipping one person republicans
From Trump & Biden debate: How well mannered & respectul, easy to understand and organized are those 2.
I actually believe Romney should try again.
More decency in the first 5 mins of this video that the entire time of the last 2 administrations smh
who is here by searching it after trump and Biden debate
?
They chose the perfect moment to upload this
They both respectfully disagree with what each other say, and you can tell they really dont have any personal grudges against each other.
You lose sight on what you have until you end up losing it.
Just came here after Trump Biden 2024 debate. What the hell was that ?
Just 2 gramps saying each other worse then themself.
I would take either of these two over the “options” we have today.
The way they shook hands. The way they addressed one another with dignity. The way Mitt even gave a kind nod to Michelle out of respect. We're living in a downgrade.
Having taken a decade class it's crazy how they actually follow the formatting and rules. You thank the moderator, thank the audience and acknowledge your opponent respectfully and start with a little funny quip to get people's attention. This is professional.
Watching this after the Trump v Biden debate is literally a breath of fresh air. Two competent candidates… what a dream
When candidates were so much easier to listen to. Biden appeared lost at times and trump sounded like a child
different world
We went from coherent and respectful debates to beefing over golf swings lmfao
wow... remember when we had compotent candidates?
Competent ❤
2024 debate : +you're a sucker. - no you are a sucker
Unfortunately we don't see this gentleman debate anymore, and about American people and substances......
A classic case of “I wish we could know we’re in the good old days while we’re still there”
Love the intro sequence, well done whoever made that.
I can't believe what's i'm seeing n hearing... grammatically correct sentences being said by a presidential candidates.
We're living in the darkest timeline
The contrast in decorum between this debate to the most recent debate is staggering.
How can they go from such professional and coherent articulations of statements to the mess that you have now?
Yeah but what are their golf handicaps?
that part was so ridiculous
Yeah this debate is ridiculous. Neither of them got any nap time, no commentary on each other character, and no golf handicaps? Barely even watchable
@@evanwatling3897 They didn't even accuse each other of being the worst president ever!
Now it’s the old people debating and the young people interviewing 😫
Had Obama lost, he would've been eligible for another term
and Romney winning would've meant no Trump.
We could see Obama doing a Cleveland in 2016 or 2020 after Romney finished his 2 terms
How do you know Romney winning would mean no Trump?
Basic politics, you rarely go from one republican president to another different. It’s a republican-democrat cycle.
I hate to say it but Trump could get a Cleveland moment this year
So much respect and class back then 😢
Wow, how far America has fallen.
They shouldn’t even call it a debate in 2024 . They should rename it to a Roast Session
Two able mined men representing two different political mindsets. How far we have fallen.