Because not many teammates got the idea that hanzo is weak at close range and be leaving in the dust if 1 on 1 with othe jungle or even tank and he have technically 0 defend if his shadow die and also his shadow is pretty weak defense it annoying to have good team but got destroy by also good hanzo and his good teammates but his pick rate is so bad that just to bad.
@@derontanzil6939 not really,in very late game or late game,Hanzo fall behind alot,during his ult mode,his shadow can be easily kill most of the time unless u buy defend items but he still can be annoying in late game
it's not because of the viability of the spell. it's only because you can only really effectively jungle now with retri spell. i remember when u could just buy jg sword and use any spell as jgler :pensive:
@@jesuscondom15 And you don't understand that people can use more than just basic english, unlike you who apparently have Sesquipedalophobia. At least I don't get triggered by vocabulary higher than mine.
@@kpopfever125 not really, if you had use all of your skill then kagura will be an easy target for hanzo. I'm also kagura main and it was annoying facing against hanzo because I need to use all of my skill just to kill his ghost when getting chased.
@@reoshikumo135 i have to keep my second skill and first skill if i don't see hanzo, her 1st skill has slow and of you take flameshot or flicker than hanzo can't even touch you
The amount of hatred I have to face during Draft pick is real. I mean sometimes when Hanzo players show Hanzo they literally van him no matter how the win rate or matches.
Ik, that’s literally my every match. I have 80% wr with 1K matches and they...yeah.. Also quick question do you get the red buff first or the blue buff cause personally I go for the blue buff everytime
Literal reason why i main him lol. Free immortality, god tier at securing buffs, low cd ult. You just need map awareness and patient with this hero and you're ready to go. The only thing i have a problem with is Ling only bcuz he can find your body fast af
I used to troll with hanzo in classic by either stealing enemy buffs or take a blue dependant teammate like Lance Ling and fanny's buff and just recall lmao
@@mikagekun5099 Helcurt is also a nightmare for Hanzo, while you're in ghost state helcurt will use his ult that many hanzo main will expecting that helcurt would join a clash meanwhile helcurt is actually walking towards his real body..
@@reoshikumo135 theres actually a bug that when you use hanzo ult while helcutt is use his ult you can seehim without getting blind smthinf like that i encounter it a lot idk if they fix it or not
ok i started watching the video and wanted to comment sth like: I wanted to watch but as hanzo main to much pain, but u made me interested EDIT: Ok sorry but, statement stays the same. The jungeling is super pain to watch and the fights are ok or actually good, butmore jgl than fight so... Here some simple and really efficient advices for jgl: if u want the red buff, go kill the creep above red buff to charge your 1st skill. Also what was the most pain: DO USE RETRIBUTION!!!!! especialy if turtle is dead anyways. But still u re a great content creator (or creatress maybe idk? is that even a word?)
The biggest thing with hanzo is that he relies on his team to protect his body from time to time but as we know in solo it's a very rare thing to have a team that'll do that
Don't really need to rely on team if your map awareness is good. Plus in solo queue if you get team who don't protect you, you also get enemies who don't know how to pick his body off. Solo queue is best for using hanzo
@@pritamupadhya3517 you won't always 100% sure u will always solo,match system is terrible as hecjzsometime u match with Dua or trio most of the time,remind me of I got match duo twice and the 2 match I have with duo player is terrible,they either troll or suck at using the hero ha
I mean hanzo is easiest to use in duo or solo. If you're going trio or full 5-man team, the coordination is good even for the enemy and that makes it hard to play hanzo. So I always play in solo queue which makes it a bit easier. All the 5 man team game I've played with hanzo has been very difficult and not fun to play
I've played Natalia earlier and one of my teammates is Hanzo it's actually fun to invade alongside him and I can protect his gorgeous body from the enemy
If you ever want to know how it feels to be wanted by everybody, then just play hanzo The funny think is :if any hero, even a support like angela,diggie find your body, would feel super empowered to go for your body.
Also, johnson, i would chase the body especially if Js already on car state. Even in turret, It's either you die, or we both die. Problem with heroes with good hide/run mechansm is theyre like the most squishy. Like hanzo, zhask, harley, pharsa
@@spiritbreakermlbb doesn't take much all you do is wait until hanzo attacs and follow the line to his body. As a jungler main i try to show as little map vision to the enemies as possible so poor hanzo has no idea where he's going to die
lol i shit over gus and all the other assn using hanzo, its really fun to steal their blue buff using ult+ retri and ruin their game, to the point the enemy team starts shitting on him as well
I play him as a roamer like natalia, stealing buff from enemy and using sprint as my spell... He's annoying as hell. Its not a sure win though, but the satisfaction of seing enemy lacking buffs. Worth it...
Oh, I don't know, is it because he can safely camp from the other side of the map and rush you with an unescapable phantom that freely gets 35% Movement Speed and 50% attacks speed and doesn't care about dying, so if you're a MM or Mage you can generally just put down your phone? Is it because of his giant ass AoE slashes in Demon form, that for some reason can apply BA effect such as DHS damage or Corrosion Scythe's slow (which combined to the Red Buff slow makes you basically frozen with just the first hit)? Is it because of the ridiculous dash that deals up to 40% of you max hp for free, and he can unlock it on targets other than you (almost as bad as when Wan2 unlocks her Ulti on your allies and then uses it on you and kills you from full hp)? Is it because of the spikes AoE in human form, that are supposed to slow by 40% but actually feels like it stacks up to 400%, so even if you try and chase him he just walks away while you're basically stuck? Is it because he can troll you and steal your buffs and there's nothing really you can do because he just needs to tap a skill (well, this one not really; usually when they try it I kill them first, at least early game)? Or is it because if your jungler sucks (which totally never happens, am i right?) then a good Hanzo player basically never dies and gets a free game?
I guess Hanzo is secretly OP against any certain enemy compositions (specially in early game), specially if he manage to steal enemy buffs while also has jungle efficiency at the same time.
He is good in all enemy compositions, his main problem is natalia,ling bcz they can kill him in 0.00000001 sec and late game mm who have dash can easily kill him like bea,wan2,moskov
@@tahsinthebd4972 Yeah! Hanzo is also neither buffed nor nerfed, he is perfectly balance because he's already OP in his own way and also easily countered at the same time.
@@rafhlagarde3311 if the enemy is natalia i build war axe and windtaker /crossion scythe,and the remained 3 slot are physical defense,then nata cannot kill me and i also have good dmg tho, Actually if you know how to play him,he is just like fanny ling But most of the player use him as a troll
He’s very good when it comes to picking off people, but ofc being very squishy means he can easily be picked off the same thing when another assassin comes for his real body. A good hanzo main would have total map awareness between his real body and where enemies will go if they’re coming for his body or not. Honestly I rly don’t think he needs a revamp cuz he’s pretty balanced being more of a situational pick than a meta one. He has his worths but also flaws, good dps but very squishy. Hoping they’ll do justice for his revamp keeping his core elements but improving his biggest flaws :3
another good tip is that when lord is in range of enemy tower you can use ult to push, instead of killing enemy. hanzo is one of best tier in pushing too. even there is defender you can ignore and tower lock.
As a person that mains hanzo but also has to deal with him certain times, i can confirm all these struggles. Rlly tho, its not that hard to handle him, you just need teammates who are good at checking the map, based on small experience, i always see tanks or supports that pulls this off. If you come across such cases just role with the tank or support and start hunting for hanzo's real body. Also, did u guys know that Luo yi's yin yang reaction doesnt work on hanzo's real body when hes ulting?
Hanzo really needs a Rework in his mechanics, not his damage his damage is spot on OP He needs a Shield when using Ult or Physical and Magic defense or Damage reduction and his ult should be like Selena and Roger which is obviously better in my opinion, lore wise he turns into the Demon, but in the game he just come out of him, this ult would’ve been better and the fact that he was OP in that Bloom Cinematic, and his ultimate there was different from his ingame ult
That's because people are arrogant and selfish. Hanzo's only role is actually as a jungler. But other people tend to use other junglers when there's already a Hanzo, hence why he will perform badly because his skills are being used for farming creeps. Hanzo is a pretty solid hero too, if you have a good map awareness you can dominate hard, and you can use his body while ulting for bait.
Absolutely, bait+ easy lord/ttrl steal + pushing/defending god + using ult+retri to steal blue buff of fanny/ling and horrendous damage throuout the game, the best part is Hanzo can end the game as soon a minion wave enters the enemy base, without getting reckt
The goose's skills are very interesting and could be a much stronger hero with some buffs, such as the cooldown of his ult, he is very dependent on it and the cooldown is Considerably high, needing to make items to reduce cooldown, could also buff the real body when you have used the ult to gain damage reduction At least you have time to react to explosive heroes
as someone who literally started playing ml BECAUSE of Hanzo...i can proudly say he is deadly as hell in the late game if u have a fast reflection trying to come in supreme rank within this season✌🏼
im the 10% that absolutely loves him in an account i lost he was my main and had over 400 plays with him and a WR of 70 or something more now in this account i dont main him as much cause when i lost that account and had to make a new one was the around the time beatrix came and i feel in love with her and had my firsts savages with her during a time where she wasn’t ban i used her like an addict and went from epic to mitic legend in less then 2 days must admit that since hanzo had that “buff” of being able to transport to its “fake” body i been using it more more and more
if they get a natalia, tank emblem + sprint , me to my team alright ill be pushing the sides in fighter built, and tf does lesley do lol i eat her raw, beatrix can be a issue in late game but thats all
Have you ever tried roam Hanzo? It was fun as hell. Just use sprint, support emblem 3rd talent and conceal or dire hit. I always using this strategy when fighting against Fanny, Ling or marksman jungler, works 90% of the time.(I am usually play trio or full squad, don’t expect optimum result when you are solo)
Well...he is a unique hero He deals a lot of damage,but what's good about him is that even if he's a good assassin with his ult,he's also one of those that people won't try to ban for some reason....unless they're using Fanny
Hororo if you want a good advantage at the start you should get the blue buff first then farm the lizard and then retri the cabage and eat the red buff. Lvl 4 in just 1 min
@1:26 so you're also a match point/wr believer ? Bruh if you know what's the skills are and how it works then you can perform good in first match after some practice in custom
@@nippachandokidoki337 I mostly use Ling ( Assasin ) Claude ( Marksman ) Chou ( Fighter ) Xavior ( Mage ) To counter Hanzo, it's pretty easy especially with. Claude and Ling
@@mcgcastvexar Vexanna is easy to counter and and she can't really dominate early game, not like Hanzo who dominates the game after just buying WindTalker and Hunter Strike
Buffs I would like hanzo to have: Reduced defenses reduction, 55% to 25%. Hanzo is already very squishy. Being able to teleport back/to when out of energy Less 1 stack for 1st skill during ghost form, but less hp based damage (15% to 10%) Golden staff to work on his 2nd skill ghost form
The only buff I want on him is the penalty of the Ult dying, like holy crap a Selena stun on top of a map reveal? Damn like just make it a stun without the slow or the other way around
Me who's been chasing the real hanzo when the fake hanzo pops up and won several matches : 🗿 It is annoying when the team protect hanzo's real body tho. Especially when all you have is a single target and short range skill.
The problem with hanzo is that he's so vulnerable when using ult if u don't have good map awareness your done...and also ling Natalia helcurt exist...one thing I would change is remove the slow when the shadow dies and make his real body sturdy when ulting
I'm playing Hanzo for 2 days as a new hero and even role and having a problem in late game. His demon form is so squishy that its getting two shotted by marksman like moskov lmao. It dies before doing any damage. Is this really normal and I have finish the game before late game or is there any items or tips?
if you read the ult description it says your defences get cut in half that why you get one shot. the best tip is to try to ks with ults first skill so you get ahead and one shot squishies.
The thing is Hanzo can be hated by enemy team if play right, however he will be hated by your own team if play wrong. Solo q with Hanzo is just impossible, your body will mostly likely be killed before you notice it. Hero like Natalia as an example, plus Hanzo are not an easy assasin to use when compare to other assasin, clearly cant run away in the middle of the fight the moment his shadow renter the body. Expose from both front and back. However that not to say Hanzo is weak, on the right hand and good team he clearly a monster to deal with.
Nowadays, Hanzo can be a great bait for any enemy core. Let's say Natalia, won't expect that there's zilong or other hero waiting to gank near hanzo real body. That's how to play him if teammates understand it
During the couple of times I used Hanzo, I tried stealing an enemy buff with S1. I was successful but I'm in low tier solo cue and ended both times with teammates that don't even know how to lane so we've lost at least 1 tower in less than 5min which severely hampered my ability to farm.
in low tier, do your farm after 5 min start clearing mid lane minions in ult, to gain gold + destroy mid as in low tier you mofo team doest know how to push
Hororo Chan: I hate Hanzo because he's always hiding! Assassins be like: Am I a joke to you?! Assassins literally amBUSH(no pun intended),why else were they Assassins anyway?
Tips from me Hanzo become more aggressive monster when you combine psy damage and attack speed item,windtalker, corrosion and DHS,this item makes hanzo unstoppable
I didn't know hanzo was this hated. He is annoying but not anywhere near to nana and he is easily counterable and there are lot of counters to him. I personally don't mind him,unless I have braindead teammates.
As a former metropolitan manila hanzo you can counter natalia just by buying the curse helm go to ghost form then check the bush also it can counter lesley first and aamon invicibility and also the roam skill that makes you invicible so yeah youcan recounter her but ling and fanny hanzo have no chance a 1v1 against them but if you invade them on ghost form on blue buff you can easily kill them because they are focus on the buff just use the second on buff if they use the retribution take the turtle or lord
I see a lot things to polish in this hanzo game play. Either way hanzo can upset almost losing match if the team will not feed I also have my perfect item build for hanzo. I try not experiment on the others player build for hanzo
Actually, if you think about how Hanzo is countered, they are using global skills (Aldous, Helcurt) or fast sneak specialty (Natalia, Ling, Fanny). All others can only kill Hanzo when they found his vulnerable body after manual roaming all over the map. Even the early release almost 3 years ago, Hanzo is almost unstoppable and unharmed if he's dominating already. 😏
How to counter Hanzo: Best to use: any supress hero Use cc on hanzo's spirit form after he used his combo until his passive run out Other counters: map roamers like Natalia and Fanny Strat if no cc nor map roamers: when you are not the target, prioritize getting near his body (tank users usually, bonus if soul form is killed)
Hanzo isn't even a problem there's tons of meta Heros that counter hanzo with ez like ling,nata(which has been popular lately), Lancelot, karina,hayabusa,chou just some to name them and as a hororo said teammates don't try n find them it's cuz their noobs ofc everyone gets noobs in a while at some point and the fact that Eudora nana franco exists makes hanzo not as annoying as he seems he's not broken like other heros he's a decent choice depending on the opponents pick when they have less mobile characters Note:- i really hate franco and Eudora the fact that a flicker ult combo from Eudora and franco can win you the whole game is just not right really hope franco gets removed from game along with Eudora
Sadge crying that u cant dodge franco ult never once has ml ever removed a hero especially not franco who currently has significantly high pick rate and eudora who also has high pick rate
@@toxiclegends4272 there's been multiple situations like these with franco 5man doing lord and franco with conceal flicker ults me (ling) i can't retri cuz silenced and opponents hyper comes in takes lord and kills me and we end up loosing game. Lost a game just cux he tapped 3 buttons together at once
I’m a Hanzo main, so I can see why ppl hate him so much and even b4 I stared playing him I hate him to the core he hurt a lot when he got 2-3 item and he always eat my buff when it’s available and he can use his ult to destroy turret from a far. But if you find him interesting like me then I suggest playing him in 5-6 match to get the hang of him.
i am one of the 10 percent who doesnt hate hanzo ngl i dont rlly play with hanzo that much but i dont hate him bcz his pretty good in the current meta (rlly often gets banned) and so yeah i rlly do like hanzos skill it kinda suits my play style even bad early or good early if played right hanzo can carry the losing team like i had a bad early one time i didnt give up and i kept playing so i carried my team and won hanzo can rlly turn the tide of the game
Everytime someone in my team wants to pick Hanzo, I always tell them to ban Natalia, because as a Natalia main we all know how stupidly easy it is to kill Hanzo
The best counter for these annoying piece of shit: Aldous: "ULT" Dyroth: life style and 2nd skill (It's hard to master tho) Gusion: burst and 1st skill Yin: "when your a squishy target Your dead" "Good teammate Tank/mage with stun to buy You time to burst/run" Item: Immortity,wind of nature, Winter trencheon Spell: Sprint,purify
lol ald ult can't unless you're cheeky to use it when my ult is in cd killed dyroth him from a far just time the ult and can counter gus as well yin is a threat, but yin users are dumb they waste ult on tanks lol and i despise immortality with all my heart
Hanzo is the hero that I don't want to ban but neither want my team or enemy team to pick him 🗿
Because not many teammates got the idea that hanzo is weak at close range and be leaving in the dust if 1 on 1 with othe jungle or even tank and he have technically 0 defend if his shadow die and also his shadow is pretty weak defense it annoying to have good team but got destroy by also good hanzo and his good teammates but his pick rate is so bad that just to bad.
@@vctmmhendra what? Are you having stroke?
@@スガル i think he has epilepsy
@@Drex-ox7gf I think he's finger is trying to find the right word, rhyming but failed misreble
@@vctmmhendra Hanzo is literally one of top 10 best Assassin, wdym. He's amazing
Hanzo is like Fanny, there's only 2 type, either it's the carry or the feeder
Agree
theres also the feeder at beginning but god at the end
@@derontanzil6939 not really,in very late game or late game,Hanzo fall behind alot,during his ult mode,his shadow can be easily kill most of the time unless u buy defend items but he still can be annoying in late game
@@lingyingli1563 yep, Hanzo ghost would easily get shread by mages, assassin and marksman.
@@lingyingli1563 i meant for fanny
Hanzo is such a good pair with Kaja, Kaja just camps on the real body while the ult form Hanzo just wreaks havoc
You can also count on Nana, Aurora and Eudora if you want to keep Hanzo real body safe
impossible for solo q player.
@@ramranchcowboy8857 agree
@@ramranchcowboy8857 totally agreed
I do that all time when i picked Kaja.
It's just like "Approaching Hanzo's body from that bush, will only lead you to DEATH!"
We all used to laugh at the thought of retribution hanzo but now he’s very viable with it as a jungler
it's not because of the viability of the spell. it's only because you can only really effectively jungle now with retri spell. i remember when u could just buy jg sword and use any spell as jgler :pensive:
@@jesuscondom15 yeah okay "Jesus Condom"
@@jesuscondom15 complaining about vocabulary when you use the word "relatively", the sentence means the same without it.
@@jesuscondom15 lol this guy jesus condom
@@jesuscondom15 And you don't understand that people can use more than just basic english, unlike you who apparently have Sesquipedalophobia.
At least I don't get triggered by vocabulary higher than mine.
"Omg he hides alllll the time", 99% of mages be like:
Kagura : he can't even touch me
Whenever enemy picks Hanzo i use Kagura and most of the time they find it difficult to kill me lol
I mean im a mage and mm player and hanzo is so annoying
@@kpopfever125 not really, if you had use all of your skill then kagura will be an easy target for hanzo. I'm also kagura main and it was annoying facing against hanzo because I need to use all of my skill just to kill his ghost when getting chased.
@@reoshikumo135 i have to keep my second skill and first skill if i don't see hanzo, her 1st skill has slow and of you take flameshot or flicker than hanzo can't even touch you
but if you manage to kill them then they are done.
while hanzo, even if you kill the demon state, itll haunt you as long as the real one is alive.
The amount of hatred I have to face during Draft pick is real.
I mean sometimes when Hanzo players show Hanzo they literally van him no matter how the win rate or matches.
2 reasons:
Annoying and Unpredictable
Ik, that’s literally my every match. I have 80% wr with 1K matches and they...yeah..
Also quick question do you get the red buff first or the blue buff cause personally I go for the blue buff everytime
@@thisisjustaname5553 I start with red buff then litho then blue buff
@@thisisjustaname5553 This one depends on situation. If u want to take litho or steal buff, u might want to change your strategy
I never have this issue. Lol
Literal reason why i main him lol. Free immortality, god tier at securing buffs, low cd ult. You just need map awareness and patient with this hero and you're ready to go. The only thing i have a problem with is Ling only bcuz he can find your body fast af
as a local 2 hanzo i can relate lol
Ling, haya gus any hero asassin that understands how not to give vision to the enemies so you can easily murder the little hanzo fker
I used to troll with hanzo in classic by either stealing enemy buffs or take a blue dependant teammate like Lance Ling and fanny's buff and just recall lmao
Don't forget the sneaky Natalia men
this is one of the reason i always go in rank duo to guard my real body its impossible to ask in solo que they always want to get into action
As a hanzo player we all hate when someone kills our body while we're on demon form
We all hate when that happens
fr i just started to main him and my enemies are fanny, ling, lancelot and nata(all 4 different matches and I inky played him 4 times though:)
I hate that, but having to get killed from the demon form and having those backlashes on the real body is annoying af
Map
@@mikagekun5099 Helcurt is also a nightmare for Hanzo, while you're in ghost state helcurt will use his ult that many hanzo main will expecting that helcurt would join a clash meanwhile helcurt is actually walking towards his real body..
@@reoshikumo135 theres actually a bug that when you use hanzo ult while helcutt is use his ult you can seehim without getting blind smthinf like that i encounter it a lot idk if they fix it or not
Hororo: don't expect a pro play
Also hororo: plays like a pro
its luck xD
@@Hororochan U did better than me 😭
ok i started watching the video and wanted to comment sth like: I wanted to watch but as hanzo main to much pain, but u made me interested
EDIT: Ok sorry but, statement stays the same. The jungeling is super pain to watch and the fights are ok or actually good, butmore jgl than fight so...
Here some simple and really efficient advices for jgl: if u want the red buff, go kill the creep above red buff to charge your 1st skill. Also what was the most pain: DO USE RETRIBUTION!!!!!
especialy if turtle is dead anyways.
But still u re a great content creator (or creatress maybe idk? is that even a word?)
The biggest thing with hanzo is that he relies on his team to protect his body from time to time but as we know in solo it's a very rare thing to have a team that'll do that
Agree. Hanzo is strong in the early-mid game actually though he is team reliant.
Don't really need to rely on team if your map awareness is good. Plus in solo queue if you get team who don't protect you, you also get enemies who don't know how to pick his body off. Solo queue is best for using hanzo
At the very least a team that knows how to defend your side of the map, both the lanes and from jungle invades.
@@pritamupadhya3517 you won't always 100% sure u will always solo,match system is terrible as hecjzsometime u match with Dua or trio most of the time,remind me of I got match duo twice and the 2 match I have with duo player is terrible,they either troll or suck at using the hero ha
I mean hanzo is easiest to use in duo or solo. If you're going trio or full 5-man team, the coordination is good even for the enemy and that makes it hard to play hanzo. So I always play in solo queue which makes it a bit easier. All the 5 man team game I've played with hanzo has been very difficult and not fun to play
I've played Natalia earlier and one of my teammates is Hanzo it's actually fun to invade alongside him and I can protect his gorgeous body from the enemy
haa,interesting...
it's just like a certain spider-frog mutualism
"gorgeous body" 😳
₍ᐢ⸝⸝•ω•⸝⸝ᐢ₎ gorgeous body
Well, true. Hanzo iz best boi
So you just stand there and sdmire his "gorgeous body"?
is it just me or the duration of his ninjutsu: devastator skill lasts longer
It depends on the red bar that he has ......it also increases if he gets a kill ( i guess XD)
everytime u hit/kill enemy. the duration increase
Hororo: 90% of players hates Hanzo
Angela: finally. A worthy opponent
Reason why MLBB players hate Hanzo: because he's a double edged sword, can be very effective against enemy and can be very effective against teammates
If you ever want to know how it feels to be wanted by everybody, then just play hanzo
The funny think is :if any hero, even a support like angela,diggie find your body, would feel super empowered to go for your body.
As a hanzo main :I never get saturated with all the hates and it's fun to play
i love hanzo when i use him as sprint stealing buffs to enemies
I hope they make a new voicelines for Hanzo or add a additional dialogues for him
Hanzo is easily countered by any asassin no matter how well he tries to hide his body an imo should only be picked if the enemy core is mm or fighter
Also, johnson, i would chase the body especially if Js already on car state.
Even in turret, It's either you die, or we both die.
Problem with heroes with good hide/run mechansm is theyre like the most squishy. Like hanzo, zhask, harley, pharsa
I use hanzo as roamer like natalia. There are really good players out there hunting hanzo's body. But i like it when they buy time to find me.
@@spiritbreakermlbb doesn't take much all you do is wait until hanzo attacs and follow the line to his body. As a jungler main i try to show as little map vision to the enemies as possible so poor hanzo has no idea where he's going to die
lol i shit over gus and all the other assn using hanzo, its really fun to steal their blue buff using ult+ retri and ruin their game, to the point the enemy team starts shitting on him as well
@@abhishekiitkgp1721 you must be playing in low rank games vs nubs then
I play him as a roamer like natalia, stealing buff from enemy and using sprint as my spell... He's annoying as hell. Its not a sure win though, but the satisfaction of seing enemy lacking buffs. Worth it...
Oh, I don't know, is it because he can safely camp from the other side of the map and rush you with an unescapable phantom that freely gets 35% Movement Speed and 50% attacks speed and doesn't care about dying, so if you're a MM or Mage you can generally just put down your phone?
Is it because of his giant ass AoE slashes in Demon form, that for some reason can apply BA effect such as DHS damage or Corrosion Scythe's slow (which combined to the Red Buff slow makes you basically frozen with just the first hit)?
Is it because of the ridiculous dash that deals up to 40% of you max hp for free, and he can unlock it on targets other than you (almost as bad as when Wan2 unlocks her Ulti on your allies and then uses it on you and kills you from full hp)?
Is it because of the spikes AoE in human form, that are supposed to slow by 40% but actually feels like it stacks up to 400%, so even if you try and chase him he just walks away while you're basically stuck?
Is it because he can troll you and steal your buffs and there's nothing really you can do because he just needs to tap a skill (well, this one not really; usually when they try it I kill them first, at least early game)?
Or is it because if your jungler sucks (which totally never happens, am i right?) then a good Hanzo player basically never dies and gets a free game?
Oh the satisfying damage of his first skill in ultimate form. It's just divine
I guess Hanzo is secretly OP against any certain enemy compositions (specially in early game), specially if he manage to steal enemy buffs while also has jungle efficiency at the same time.
He is good in all enemy compositions, his main problem is natalia,ling bcz they can kill him in 0.00000001 sec and late game mm who have dash can easily kill him like bea,wan2,moskov
@@tahsinthebd4972 Yeah! Hanzo is also neither buffed nor nerfed, he is perfectly balance because he's already OP in his own way and also easily countered at the same time.
@@alyasVictorio agree
@@tahsinthebd4972 bro you can recounter nataloa just by curse helmet thencheck the bush but use the ult
@@rafhlagarde3311 if the enemy is natalia i build war axe and windtaker /crossion scythe,and the remained 3 slot are physical defense,then nata cannot kill me and i also have good dmg tho,
Actually if you know how to play him,he is just like fanny ling
But most of the player use him as a troll
Enemy when hanzo:"Godlike,Double kill,triple kill, maniac!"
Me when hanzo:"ENEMY GODLIKE,ENEMY UNSTOPPABLE!ENEMY RAMPAGE!"
i am a hanzo p layer i get lengendary every match
He’s very good when it comes to picking off people, but ofc being very squishy means he can easily be picked off the same thing when another assassin comes for his real body. A good hanzo main would have total map awareness between his real body and where enemies will go if they’re coming for his body or not. Honestly I rly don’t think he needs a revamp cuz he’s pretty balanced being more of a situational pick than a meta one. He has his worths but also flaws, good dps but very squishy. Hoping they’ll do justice for his revamp keeping his core elements but improving his biggest flaws :3
He pretty balance,all u need is map awareness ur good to go
another good tip is that when lord is in range of enemy tower you can use ult to push, instead of killing enemy.
hanzo is one of best tier in pushing too. even there is defender you can ignore and tower lock.
As a person that mains hanzo but also has to deal with him certain times, i can confirm all these struggles. Rlly tho, its not that hard to handle him, you just need teammates who are good at checking the map, based on small experience, i always see tanks or supports that pulls this off. If you come across such cases just role with the tank or support and start hunting for hanzo's real body. Also, did u guys know that Luo yi's yin yang reaction doesnt work on hanzo's real body when hes ulting?
He's my main and i like to play mind games with the enemies with my ult
This is why every frickin game is a psychological game, it test how strong is your mental skill
As a Hanzo user it's kinda hard to position my self in late game depend who has the advantage also a critic build Hanzo can solo lord.
Hanzo really needs a Rework
in his mechanics, not his damage
his damage is spot on OP
He needs a Shield when using Ult or Physical and Magic defense or Damage reduction
and his ult should be like Selena and Roger which is obviously better in my opinion, lore wise he turns into the
Demon, but in the game he just come out of him, this ult would’ve been better
and the fact that he was OP in that Bloom Cinematic, and his ultimate there was different from his ingame ult
His ulti is already good just need a defense like a damage reduction no need else
@@johndaneconraddonato375 i prefer a more Lore Accurate Ult
@@nightshade777 yah although its already op i think we need more stacks because every time i move it get low really fast
10% player is hanzo user
That me 😂😂😂
Or forgot about him
me too
i played hanzo 660 matches
The scaries thing imo as a hanzo player is seeing the enemy zilong going at 300 mph to impale your body 🥲
Or the Ling doing parkour moves
That's because people are arrogant and selfish. Hanzo's only role is actually as a jungler. But other people tend to use other junglers when there's already a Hanzo, hence why he will perform badly because his skills are being used for farming creeps. Hanzo is a pretty solid hero too, if you have a good map awareness you can dominate hard, and you can use his body while ulting for bait.
Absolutely, bait+ easy lord/ttrl steal + pushing/defending god + using ult+retri to steal blue buff of fanny/ling and horrendous damage throuout the game, the best part is Hanzo can end the game as soon a minion wave enters the enemy base, without getting reckt
The goose's skills are very interesting and could be a much stronger hero with some buffs, such as the cooldown of his ult, he is very dependent on it and the cooldown is Considerably high, needing to make items to reduce cooldown, could also buff the real body when you have used the ult to gain damage reduction At least you have time to react to explosive heroes
as someone who literally started playing ml BECAUSE of Hanzo...i can proudly say he is deadly as hell in the late game if u have a fast reflection
trying to come in supreme rank within this season✌🏼
As a hanzo player, i suggest you use Hunter Strike instead of blade of heptaseas. It's movement speed helps a LOTTTT
Roamer Hanzo with conceal-blessed rapid boots: I'm Atlas, but an assassin.
True
im the 10% that absolutely loves him in an account i lost he was my main and had over 400 plays with him and a WR of 70 or something more now in this account i dont main him as much cause when i lost that account and had to make a new one was the around the time beatrix came and i feel in love with her and had my firsts savages with her during a time where she wasn’t ban i used her like an addict and went from epic to mitic legend in less then 2 days must admit that since hanzo had that “buff” of being able to transport to its “fake” body i been using it more more and more
As a Natalia and Lesley user, I really like dealing with Hanzo😁
Hanzo is food for me
-Natalia
if they get a natalia, tank emblem + sprint , me to my team alright ill be pushing the sides in fighter built, and tf does lesley do lol i eat her raw, beatrix can be a issue in late game but thats all
@@abhishekiitkgp1721 K👌
Have you ever tried roam Hanzo? It was fun as hell. Just use sprint, support emblem 3rd talent and conceal or dire hit. I always using this strategy when fighting against Fanny, Ling or marksman jungler, works 90% of the time.(I am usually play trio or full squad, don’t expect optimum result when you are solo)
will try for sure, i just use ult from mid lane to steal enemy fanny's blue when shes attkig it with retri and 30% time i get a kill as well lol
Hanzo with a really good tank protecting his body is literally make us cry
remember that time when hanzo with retribution was like fanny with flicker or kimmy with inspire?
esme with aegis, karina with execute, diggie with purify, luo yi with arrival, johnson with sprint
The best hero to use if you want to gain the ability to be aware of anything
yeah, thats exactly why i main Hanzo lol...
tho am gonna miss his old iconic voice lines.
Me too the old voice line is more better
One of the dangerous hero in ML plus the dangerous user it's so insane
As someone with 200 matches with him I agree the amount of hate I get whenever I use hanzo I never really understand why
Well...he is a unique hero
He deals a lot of damage,but what's good about him is that even if he's a good assassin with his ult,he's also one of those that people won't try to ban for some reason....unless they're using Fanny
Hororo if you want a good advantage at the start you should get the blue buff first then farm the lizard and then retri the cabage and eat the red buff. Lvl 4 in just 1 min
@1:26 so you're also a match point/wr believer ?
Bruh if you know what's the skills are and how it works then you can perform good in first match after some practice in custom
I find it funny how hororo says hanzo is always hiding and running even though Eudora, vale and aurora do the same thing
isn't chang'e the most suitable counter for hanzo
@@nippachandokidoki337 and YSS.
@@nippachandokidoki337
I mostly use
Ling ( Assasin ) Claude ( Marksman ) Chou ( Fighter ) Xavior ( Mage )
To counter Hanzo, it's pretty easy especially with. Claude and Ling
Vexanna might do the same thing soon.
@@mcgcastvexar
Vexanna is easy to counter and and she can't really dominate early game, not like Hanzo who dominates the game after just buying WindTalker and Hunter Strike
Buffs I would like hanzo to have:
Reduced defenses reduction, 55% to 25%. Hanzo is already very squishy.
Being able to teleport back/to when out of energy
Less 1 stack for 1st skill during ghost form, but less hp based damage (15% to 10%)
Golden staff to work on his 2nd skill ghost form
No thank you - a mage/mm user
@@vstxtk Heh
The only buff I want on him is the penalty of the Ult dying, like holy crap a Selena stun on top of a map reveal? Damn like just make it a stun without the slow or the other way around
What about a shield to protect him when he uses ult?
Me who's been chasing the real hanzo when the fake hanzo pops up and won several matches : 🗿
It is annoying when the team protect hanzo's real body tho. Especially when all you have is a single target and short range skill.
The problem with hanzo is that he's so vulnerable when using ult if u don't have good map awareness your done...and also ling Natalia helcurt exist...one thing I would change is remove the slow when the shadow dies and make his real body sturdy when ulting
I'm playing Hanzo for 2 days as a new hero and even role and having a problem in late game. His demon form is so squishy that its getting two shotted by marksman like moskov lmao. It dies before doing any damage. Is this really normal and I have finish the game before late game or is there any items or tips?
if you read the ult description it says your defences get cut in half that why you get one shot. the best tip is to try to ks with ults first skill so you get ahead and one shot squishies.
you need to dominate early game or adjust item to tank
I feel you Hororo, I hate this hero so much too. But because of that, nothing compares to the feeling of successfully killing a Hanzo using sprint ✨✨😌
Map awareness go bruuhhh
Hanzo is a real nightmare for enemy jungler if he invade the buff while the enemy is helping their jungler farm the other buff
Or simply if he is good, sometimes even tho we help him he can't invade, other times? He alone take 4 buffs
The thing is Hanzo can be hated by enemy team if play right, however he will be hated by your own team if play wrong. Solo q with Hanzo is just impossible, your body will mostly likely be killed before you notice it. Hero like Natalia as an example, plus Hanzo are not an easy assasin to use when compare to other assasin, clearly cant run away in the middle of the fight the moment his shadow renter the body. Expose from both front and back. However that not to say Hanzo is weak, on the right hand and good team he clearly a monster to deal with.
It's a fun until zilong + inspire joins the enemy team- Hanzo
its fun playing mind games with zil to the point he just quits doing bs, however chou hiding in the bush is the real threat
*Hororo posting a video how most players hates Hanzo*
Fanny:👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Core hanzo: hard but rewarding
Roamer: cancer to enemy
Sidelane: help pls
mfs be bullying Hanzo side 24/7😭
Nowadays, Hanzo can be a great bait for any enemy core. Let's say Natalia, won't expect that there's zilong or other hero waiting to gank near hanzo real body. That's how to play him if teammates understand it
When Hanzo ult in solo rank, all my teammates will attack his shadow, haiya...
"Q. Are you a girl or boy?
A. I am a grown up person. Thank you."
Awsome! XD
He's equivalent to Yone from LoL, they're both annoying to play against due to their soul kits 😡
Not really. Yone is just unbalanced. Meanwhile this guy is kinda bad.
I haven’t played league much at all, but Yone is just INSANE lmao
@@suhaylazmin9112 literally most champions.. 😂😂😂
Most are unbalanced
@@suhaylazmin9112 actually on 2020 Hanzo revamp and pree revamp was Just Yone complety unbalanced in certain part
Well,if I use nata,and I search his body,I just have to basic attack 2 times and he's death
i take tank emblem whenever i see a shitty nat, i end up with silver and she with bronze
Well he's the strongest ninja after all
absolutely , tell me a single hero who can push, def, steal , annoy, troll all at the same time
*Nata ban
Hanzo : "time to shine....!"
Them don't want Hanzo because he isn't popular
Me want Hazo because his skin is Hot
During the couple of times I used Hanzo, I tried stealing an enemy buff with S1. I was successful but I'm in low tier solo cue and ended both times with teammates that don't even know how to lane so we've lost at least 1 tower in less than 5min which severely hampered my ability to farm.
in low tier, do your farm after 5 min start clearing mid lane minions in ult, to gain gold + destroy mid as in low tier you mofo team doest know how to push
1:06 He wasn't a ninja for no reason.
Every time the enemy Picks Hanzo, I rejoice for picking my mains freely.
Most strongest buff securing character interms from the toxic teammate picking another retribution
Hororo Chan: I hate Hanzo because he's always hiding!
Assassins be like: Am I a joke to you?!
Assassins literally amBUSH(no pun intended),why else were they Assassins anyway?
Tips from me
Hanzo become more aggressive monster when you combine psy damage and attack speed item,windtalker, corrosion and DHS,this item makes hanzo unstoppable
The Strongest ninja has arrived.
Hanzo's demon who did all the work:🤭🙄👿
I don't hate hanzo just find his body by following his soul and hanzo be like: "Fuck this shit I'm out!" Meme
I didn't know hanzo was this hated. He is annoying but not anywhere near to nana and he is easily counterable and there are lot of counters to him. I personally don't mind him,unless I have braindead teammates.
0:52 , me with Yin be like The game is mine
It's useless, if you ulti hanzo body,bcz he can go to his shadow form
As a former metropolitan manila hanzo you can counter natalia just by buying the curse helm go to ghost form then check the bush also it can counter lesley first and aamon invicibility and also the roam skill that makes you invicible so yeah youcan recounter her but ling and fanny hanzo have no chance a 1v1 against them but if you invade them on ghost form on blue buff you can easily kill them because they are focus on the buff just use the second on buff if they use the retribution take the turtle or lord
Nothing I love more than to Aamon Ult Hanzo, take down the fake body, and it goes straight to kill the real body.
Actually if ur good at it u should go for a buff steal at the start red or bule
I see a lot things to polish in this hanzo game play. Either way hanzo can upset almost losing match if the team will not feed
I also have my perfect item build for hanzo. I try not experiment on the others player build for hanzo
Hanzo deserves an epic if not a collector skin.
I got mvp when i used hanzo yesterday lol it was the best, locking on layla and franco👌.
My main hanzo 😍, you did a very pro player gameplay, isnt Easy play vs Karina
I usually counter Hanzo using either Ling or Natalia cuz most of the time Hanzo players don't pay attention to his body while ulting
Actually, if you think about how Hanzo is countered, they are using global skills (Aldous, Helcurt) or fast sneak specialty (Natalia, Ling, Fanny). All others can only kill Hanzo when they found his vulnerable body after manual roaming all over the map. Even the early release almost 3 years ago, Hanzo is almost unstoppable and unharmed if he's dominating already. 😏
Алдосу на встречу нужно лететь когда ультует)
How to counter Hanzo:
Best to use: any supress hero
Use cc on hanzo's spirit form after he used his combo until his passive run out
Other counters: map roamers like Natalia and Fanny
Strat if no cc nor map roamers: when you are not the target, prioritize getting near his body (tank users usually, bonus if soul form is killed)
Thank you, tho usually cc is not enough. Hanzo is incredibly annoying and i hate any hanzo that plays as my opponent
Hanzo isn't even a problem there's tons of meta Heros that counter hanzo with ez like ling,nata(which has been popular lately), Lancelot, karina,hayabusa,chou just some to name them and as a hororo said teammates don't try n find them it's cuz their noobs ofc everyone gets noobs in a while at some point and the fact that Eudora nana franco exists makes hanzo not as annoying as he seems he's not broken like other heros he's a decent choice depending on the opponents pick when they have less mobile characters
Note:- i really hate franco and Eudora the fact that a flicker ult combo from Eudora and franco can win you the whole game is just not right really hope franco gets removed from game along with Eudora
Yea so hanzo is one of the best heroes in low rank
Sadge crying that u cant dodge franco ult never once has ml ever removed a hero especially not franco who currently has significantly high pick rate and eudora who also has high pick rate
Franco main btw:)
@@toxiclegends4272 there's been multiple situations like these with franco 5man doing lord and franco with conceal flicker ults me (ling) i can't retri cuz silenced and opponents hyper comes in takes lord and kills me and we end up loosing game. Lost a game just cux he tapped 3 buttons together at once
Franco counter : simple cc
I’m a Hanzo main, so I can see why ppl hate him so much and even b4 I stared playing him I hate him to the core he hurt a lot when he got 2-3 item and he always eat my buff when it’s available and he can use his ult to destroy turret from a far. But if you find him interesting like me then I suggest playing him in 5-6 match to get the hang of him.
i am one of the 10 percent who doesnt hate hanzo ngl i dont rlly play with hanzo that much but i dont hate him bcz his pretty good in the current meta (rlly often gets banned) and so yeah i rlly do like hanzos skill it kinda suits my play style even bad early or good early if played right hanzo can carry the losing team like i had a bad early one time i didnt give up and i kept playing so i carried my team and won hanzo can rlly turn the tide of the game
Me: Nobody will be able to kill me😈
Enemy: Picks Natalia and Yin!!
Me also: 😂😅😭
They need to adjust hanzo a bit so he can keep up with new roaster of heroes both visually and ability viz
Everyone:Ban Hanzo
Me who is a Natalia main: Thanks for the free food.
Everytime someone in my team wants to pick Hanzo, I always tell them to ban Natalia, because as a Natalia main we all know how stupidly easy it is to kill Hanzo
natalia is dyrroth's food
The best counter for these
annoying piece of shit:
Aldous: "ULT"
Dyroth: life style and 2nd skill
(It's hard to master tho)
Gusion: burst and 1st skill
Yin: "when your a squishy target
Your dead"
"Good teammate Tank/mage with stun to buy You time to burst/run"
Item: Immortity,wind of nature,
Winter trencheon
Spell: Sprint,purify
lol ald ult can't unless you're cheeky to use it when my ult is in cd
killed dyroth him from a far
just time the ult and can counter gus as well
yin is a threat, but yin users are dumb they waste ult on tanks lol
and i despise immortality with all my heart
Most hottest and 90% hate also forgotten Its....
hanzo
Finaly my request is showing
Hey Hororo Chan why does Hanzo have a new voice line right now and no body is talking about it ??!!!
Whenever enemy has a Hanzo, I always go for the body. As a Fanny main, you can say it is my hobby.
I like using him Sidelane, stupid I know but far poke is so fun