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Take note that taking this emblem means YOU HAVE TO LAST HIT the minions. The very basic and should be trained skill in this game, timing your LAST HIT on ANY minions. 10-30 gold per missed last hit is 30-90 gold per wave.
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@@Justin_isslpng I know bro but let's be honest here, not everyone knows that last hitting gives more gold. As someone who played Dota all my life(never played League), I always stress last hitting as much as possible. Even when I'm babysitting MM on lane, I use skills just to last hit them for pure efficiency. Balista minion give 128-130 gold when last hit, only gives less than 100 when not. Normal ranged creep gives 75 when last hit, 54 when not. You get the idea but the fact that not all players know or even care about this is what makes the micro macro stages of the game lead to huge gold gaps
@@icouldntthinkofagoodname7216 As Alice, you can use her second skill to help last hit the minions. Also, I played DOTA too so last hitting minions became a habit too LMAO
this is actually useful since the mage emblem’s talents doesn’t make a big advantage for Alice (Cheap item talent is okay). But the magic emblem has a ready to go mana regen + this talent making it easier to play her.
@@acegaleria9850 do you even realize how important movement speed is? It gives you both offense and defense. Plus, Alice is a chase type hero. If you are using tank build, only then you don't need movement speed
The magic emblem best suited on low rank. On higher play, the movement speed provided by mage emblem is crucial for chase and escape regardless if you build tank or mage alice. This gives you more to options for other utility spells such as vengeance or purify rather than sprint
@@gab_amanOO mage emblem ms bonus have the advantage of being there in effect early game initiation or clash especially for the roam alice. When i use her before, i build one or two of those items as you mentioned but not now in current meta, i believe there are better situational items you can build instead of those
Well ofc mage > magic emblem, what I take from this video is to fool around in classics or smurf acc before this specific build gone after new talents revamp
Well alice doesn't really rely on move speed emblem btw.. It's situational for her to chase or for dmg.. Custom mage emblem with magic and magic% is good for her.. similiar to emblem recomendation for vexana.. And i agree for magic emblem, i tried it in mytic rank is not good at all.. low dmg and get burst easily even with same item build, you couldn't wish to have fight with minion near you everytime 😂 Not sustain at all in higher rank, but this magic emblem is good for you who love to do laning, clear minion, and just objective
@@ragnaplay123 I'm sure you are talking about the mainstream burst build and play style but it is not efficient for the roam tank build. What i can tell you based on my experience is that alice 2nd skill CC and ulti relies you to be close within proximity of your enemy target hence if you build tank alice without much cd item, your mobility suffers (1st skill cd). It will be harder to position yourself to cover the distance between you and the enemy. It is easier to miss the 2nd skill CC --> this means more missed opportunities during early ganks. You can patch this easily by adding ms boost to your emblem kit. While i'm at it btw regardless of the role you opt for, for talent i think Impure Rage is stll the best for poking and mana management along with mana boots
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I mainly use Tank Alice build to sustain for my teammates, so I use magic emblem especially when I take the Mid Lane, My HP and Mana recovers so I don't really need to recall And honestly only one thing I hate about using this Magic Emblem, Is that my teammates bully me :/
Ayyyy, you finally did her All-In combo right! ^^ Also this emblem is only useful if you’re planning to use Alice to push lane 24/7. Using this emblem will make you lose DMG in team fights, as you don’t have the Magic pen and extra Movement speed anymore. And it will also make Alice slower to get to full build because you no longer have the 10% off on item.
This was the emblem i been using when i first started to learn and use alice.. and it made me reach 60%+ winrate with it.. Ever since i switch to mage emblem i just can't win easily no more.(ever since they revamped alice ulti to NO CD less dmg)
Nope, the mage emblem is just overall better for Alice. Magic emblem has: - great mana pool - 6 magic pen Mage emblem has : - great movement speed - 19.5 magic pen - fast buy item
Magic pen may look good on alice,but you're just there to annoy and sustain not burst.The movement speed problem can be resolved by battle spell sprint.
I use to wonder why I run out of mana in one account, and in the other do not. The problem is using magic in one, and mage in another. Nice of you to show us the trick.
Another good pair for that emblem is Cursed helmet. It deals more to minions, same goes with her ult. Now, you can just run towards the minions, if you think you can't beat the enemy by your own.
I'm alice main and i don't really like this emblem because one thing and it's no movement speed. Mana is better with this emblem but she's so slow because this emblem has 0 movement speed, I just had a game when enemy has fast movement speed and dash and she's stuggeling chasing them even with 100 passive, I even bought ice queen for movement speed and still not enough. I recently switched to support emblem and she's moving so fast, it's faster than mage emblem
I'm using this emblem specially in brawl my alice is almost unkillable combined with vengeance spell all i need is to take advantage by killing minnions and my mana and hp will restore
The last hit is the most thing must said in this video since Moonton doesn't add this in settings so maybe this talent is useless. And her problem is her mana burning when using ult so mana boost talisman are enough for her. If u always focus on boosting the heroes to be the best then stop to adjust the skill tips.
I hope they will add a new talent in the new emblem system that has something like this... something that fits high-mana-consuming heroes like alice...
I actually used that once and all i can say its pretty helpful yet not recommended fully for beginners. But still this emblem is good for sustain but from the meta today, sustain for Alice wll be a bad idea for higher rank and only for lower ranks. It has low damage but full mana sustain but n9 damage means nothing unless its esmeralda
Hororo, finally i can Find solution "Alice Just need 1 Ult (level 4)" U just Change Skill Position, Skill 2 on Ultimate Position, and Boood Ode (Ultimate) on 2nd Skill Position. And u can have 1 Ult for 13 through level
I'm seeing comments about mage emblem and magic emblem. And here I am always using support emblem for hybrid regen. I don't know which is better of the mage or support but I think support emblem is better than magic emblem.
Honestly I'm an idiot for actually misinterpreting it as "You get an increase of Mana every kill you get" meaning just like Alice's passive you'll increase your mana pool size. Welp Atleast I was wrong but bruh I'm an idiot that's for sure.
@@aprettydumbperson You have movement speed because of your passive though, if you read her passive, it gives +40 Movement speed, just like what Demon Shoes offers
thank you hororo for uplifting alice's name🤣 she is my main hero and she is in the middle of being underrated, popular, weak, strong. how abt the new talent system? do you have any tips and tricks for alice too?
Btw donot try this emblem in real games like rank, i have tried this way before this test but it does not work good. U lose a lot of movement speed, dmg and not efficient to build items in time. Risk at ur will ha!
After watching your previous video, I immediately try Alice and don't use the mage emblem but rather this magic emblem since it has a lot of mana.
@God is wearing pajamas when she made us DEFEAT!
@God is wearing pajamas when she made us get blamed on for going magic emblem instead of mage emblem and the results what the 2nd reply said
@@adi_the_overseer it’s no reason to use those trash emblems Alice is fine how she is with the hybrid build
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I have been using this emblem for heroes who consumes too much mana, and it works okay.
Take note that taking this emblem means YOU HAVE TO LAST HIT the minions.
The very basic and should be trained skill in this game, timing your LAST HIT on ANY minions. 10-30 gold per missed last hit is 30-90 gold per wave.
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I mean, that's what a pro Alice player keeps in mind all the time because they need to take advantage of Demon Shoes’ passive so I think all is good
@@Justin_isslpng I know bro but let's be honest here, not everyone knows that last hitting gives more gold. As someone who played Dota all my life(never played League), I always stress last hitting as much as possible. Even when I'm babysitting MM on lane, I use skills just to last hit them for pure efficiency. Balista minion give 128-130 gold when last hit, only gives less than 100 when not. Normal ranged creep gives 75 when last hit, 54 when not. You get the idea but the fact that not all players know or even care about this is what makes the micro macro stages of the game lead to huge gold gaps
@@icouldntthinkofagoodname7216 As Alice, you can use her second skill to help last hit the minions.
Also, I played DOTA too so last hitting minions became a habit too LMAO
@@icouldntthinkofagoodname7216 walang mm sa dota bruh
this is actually useful since the mage emblem’s talents doesn’t make a big advantage for Alice (Cheap item talent is okay). But the magic emblem has a ready to go mana regen + this talent making it easier to play her.
Mage emblem is better. It gives you movement speed and cheap items
Alice's stacks gives you movement speed so you actually don't need it when using Alice.
@@acegaleria9850 do you even realize how important movement speed is? It gives you both offense and defense. Plus, Alice is a chase type hero. If you are using tank build, only then you don't need movement speed
@@ispeakcockney5387 mOvEmEnT sPeEd shut up dude
@@ispeakcockney5387 i mean we can just use sprint and bruteforce breastplate
The magic emblem best suited on low rank. On higher play, the movement speed provided by mage emblem is crucial for chase and escape regardless if you build tank or mage alice. This gives you more to options for other utility spells such as vengeance or purify rather than sprint
Just build brute force breastplate I guess. you can even use ice queen's wand
@@gab_amanOO mage emblem ms bonus have the advantage of being there in effect early game initiation or clash especially for the roam alice. When i use her before, i build one or two of those items as you mentioned but not now in current meta, i believe there are better situational items you can build instead of those
Well ofc mage > magic emblem, what I take from this video is to fool around in classics or smurf acc before this specific build gone after new talents revamp
Well alice doesn't really rely on move speed emblem btw..
It's situational for her to chase or for dmg..
Custom mage emblem with magic and magic% is good for her.. similiar to emblem recomendation for vexana..
And i agree for magic emblem, i tried it in mytic rank is not good at all.. low dmg and get burst easily even with same item build, you couldn't wish to have fight with minion near you everytime 😂
Not sustain at all in higher rank, but this magic emblem is good for you who love to do laning, clear minion, and just objective
@@ragnaplay123 I'm sure you are talking about the mainstream burst build and play style but it is not efficient for the roam tank build.
What i can tell you based on my experience is that alice 2nd skill CC and ulti relies you to be close within proximity of your enemy target hence if you build tank alice without much cd item, your mobility suffers (1st skill cd). It will be harder to position yourself to cover the distance between you and the enemy. It is easier to miss the 2nd skill CC --> this means more missed opportunities during early ganks.
You can patch this easily by adding ms boost to your emblem kit. While i'm at it btw regardless of the role you opt for, for talent i think Impure Rage is stll the best for poking and mana management along with mana boots
i've been using this since i was master, i thought it sucked but here we are now hororo making a vid about it
It does suck
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well yea its shit it becomes obsolete if you arent fighting near minions
I mainly use Tank Alice build to sustain for my teammates, so I use magic emblem especially when I take the Mid Lane, My HP and Mana recovers so I don't really need to recall And honestly only one thing I hate about using this Magic Emblem, Is that my teammates bully me :/
Ayyyy, you finally did her All-In combo right! ^^
Also this emblem is only useful if you’re planning to use Alice to push lane 24/7.
Using this emblem will make you lose DMG in team fights, as you don’t have the Magic pen and extra Movement speed anymore. And it will also make Alice slower to get to full build because you no longer have the 10% off on item.
This was the emblem i been using when i first started to learn and use alice.. and it made me reach 60%+ winrate with it..
Ever since i switch to mage emblem i just can't win easily no more.(ever since they revamped alice ulti to NO CD less dmg)
Its quite the situational emblem, but its good for clearing lanes and preserving mana I guess.
You're right that's it's helpful but only in the early game when most of the fights are near minions, from mid to late game it becomes a bit useless
the only emblem I used when using alice, this is also helpful in brawl as it regens mana and HP
For once in mlbb’s lifetime, _the magic emblem has its worth_
Lmao
Still useless lmao. Mage eblem has more dmg
Funny how people attack me for using it after your previous Alice vid, now everyone will be using it. Thanks Hororo.
Nope, the mage emblem is just overall better for Alice. Magic emblem has:
- great mana pool
- 6 magic pen
Mage emblem has :
- great movement speed
- 19.5 magic pen
- fast buy item
@@meatlover_41 wdym sir?
It all comes down to players preferences, honestly.
@@DerekK.2423 you will get clowned for using magic emblem mage is clearly the better version because of the pen
@@DerekK.2423 specifically players in the pro league
The biggest reason to go to mage emblem is the movement speed for me.
You're so cool, im blessing with your content too much 😳
So basically, u jst gotta master the art of last hitting minion
After hororo posted a trick about alice I've already experiment with this emblem,bty thank hororo for your trick this really change my alice.
6:57 I want to press the frozen for Hororo
Magic pen may look good on alice,but you're just there to annoy and sustain not burst.The movement speed problem can be resolved by battle spell sprint.
I use to wonder why I run out of mana in one account, and in the other do not. The problem is using magic in one, and mage in another. Nice of you to show us the trick.
In lower ranks alice has more mana
I remember trying it once when i was using Alice and it was great back then,u didnt really run out of mana.
Another good pair for that emblem is Cursed helmet. It deals more to minions, same goes with her ult. Now, you can just run towards the minions, if you think you can't beat the enemy by your own.
After watching ur previous vid, i use Alice once in classic and ended up by defeat with 0-10-11 KDA
Yeah Alice needs lots of practice to master 🤣🤣
@@bubuthefooll yeaaa😩
@@bubuthefooll + good teammates
I'm alice main and i don't really like this emblem because one thing and it's no movement speed. Mana is better with this emblem but she's so slow because this emblem has 0 movement speed, I just had a game when enemy has fast movement speed and dash and she's stuggeling chasing them even with 100 passive, I even bought ice queen for movement speed and still not enough. I recently switched to support emblem and she's moving so fast, it's faster than mage emblem
I'm using this emblem specially in brawl my alice is almost unkillable combined with vengeance spell all i need is to take advantage by killing minnions and my mana and hp will restore
This experiment, since Emblems will be talents and IDK if this Magic emblem still exist on the new talent system
The last hit is the most thing must said in this video since Moonton doesn't add this in settings so maybe this talent is useless. And her problem is her mana burning when using ult so mana boost talisman are enough for her. If u always focus on boosting the heroes to be the best then stop to adjust the skill tips.
I hope they will add a new talent in the new emblem system that has something like this... something that fits high-mana-consuming heroes like alice...
Hylos too don't forget
@@GrindyVine hylos not really need mana
@@dr0wn8888 yeah... he can use his own hp
now try the no-ult-upgrade with that emblem
6:56 hororo forgot she have winter truncheon
(I guess she's hoping that no-one notice that)
Even b4 this video I use it on cecillion but never thought of using it on Alice so thx hehe
This emblem fits alice now so much mana consumption this one gives more mana
even that emblem is another perfect fit for gord and valir
no lmao
Lmao not even close
Me: I'm always ahead of all, bc i use this talent on Alice since years
1:20 Scarlet Overkill chased by Minions.
Avarice is the best emblem for Alice. Hit heroes gains gold if your minion is in freezelane plus gain more mana regen
seems good cutting minion lane early at enemy base
Gigacjad emblem
Gigachad heroes
Gigachad energy
6:57 you had forgot the winter + sprint
Yes its true... Ive notice that on my smurf acct that its working great for her
i use this since season 3 Alice is strong with this sustain emblem
I actually used that once and all i can say its pretty helpful yet not recommended fully for beginners.
But still this emblem is good for sustain but from the meta today, sustain for Alice wll be a bad idea for higher rank and only for lower ranks. It has low damage but full mana sustain but n9 damage means nothing unless its esmeralda
Hororo, finally i can Find solution "Alice Just need 1 Ult (level 4)"
U just Change Skill Position, Skill 2 on Ultimate Position, and Boood Ode (Ultimate) on 2nd Skill Position. And u can have 1 Ult for 13 through level
Essence Reaper from the new emblem system also restores mana along with HP so…
I use the mage emblem talent that restores mana every time you damage an enemy. So I'm good
I'm seeing comments about mage emblem and magic emblem. And here I am always using support emblem for hybrid regen. I don't know which is better of the mage or support but I think support emblem is better than magic emblem.
Hororo making alot of alice videos lately.
Me: tries
Me: fails
Honestly I'm an idiot for actually misinterpreting it as "You get an increase of Mana every kill you get" meaning just like Alice's passive you'll increase your mana pool size.
Welp Atleast I was wrong but bruh I'm an idiot that's for sure.
When buying clock of destiny , I think it's better to keep the elegant gem until you are max level so that you get mana regen every time you upgrade.
Then you'll lose the supposed to be full stacked clock of destiny in late game
Boosts late game tho if you plan to of course. After all there is a max stat of which you can get .
Hororo.... I Tried Your Trick Of Not Upgrading Alice's Ulti..... And Damn.... Her Ulti Lasted Almost A Minute..... We Won The Game... 😂
this video looks like they're competing which team has more survivability
For every one with mana issue with alice but the enchanted talisman
Carmilla would've perfect there, 3 Melee enemies with alice and carmilla ultimate.
Pure destruction
So in the new emblem system, which one suites Alice perfectly???
1:07 lmao why am i laughing
i use that talent for cecil so he can spam skil better in early game
I think with this, you can sell your Demon Shoes in the late game and replace it with another defensive or magic item imo
you still need movement speed her ult and second are useless if u cant catch up and equipments dont give much movement speed anyways
@@aprettydumbperson You have movement speed because of your passive though, if you read her passive, it gives +40 Movement speed, just like what Demon Shoes offers
Useless eblem . And in the late game it will be hard to change items really often . Also she will lack of magic pen and movement speed
Why not impure rage, it gives mana every 5 seconds if you use skill but minion waves come less frequently
thank you hororo for uplifting alice's name🤣 she is my main hero and she is in the middle of being underrated, popular, weak, strong. how abt the new talent system? do you have any tips and tricks for alice too?
I use this emblem for cecilion as well since most likely he will be farming minions to get his stack and the mana and hp will be great
😵no this emblem isn't good tho you can go for impure range
Mage emblem still better
@@annieleonhart8470 I don’t have impure rage in my alt
Okay what. I did not know this. Now I gotta do it
No one:
Not even Moonton:
Me when i see someone with magical or physical emblem : Ez win
True
Better monton add pasive that we can take orb from hero like faramis
And
I play and tried to not up lvl ulti alice but got accident lvl 2 always 🤣
I use it with Cecilion too it kinda works.
I usually use that with cecilion
ive been using this when playing alice since a long time ago
First time the mage emblem is useful
I also use this emblem set for Cecilion hehe
Damn how i forgot this emblem 🗿
It's just give more power in early n mid but for late alice with this emblem big no. Either is stupid or work decision
But why did u lvl up the Ult????
So, it's the same thing like Balmond passive?
Damn it's so perfect
how about cecilion ?
Hororo you know you should leave our secrets alone hahaha
What about Impure Rage?
am i the only one who uses support emblem ?
Did u just fully max upgraded ur ultimate
what server are you playing on this match?
Whats ur item
build?
Why did u upgrade alice eultimate level?
I want to try if there’s no tank in my team
and then watch ur teammates mock u in high elo because u r using a lowkey emblem
Common Magic Emblem? What is that?
I kinda..heard of it somewhere.. LOL..
Can cecilion use also magic emblem?
Add mana boots you literally can’t run out of mana
Yo what is that magic dust💀💀💀
Thw picking thooo so toughhhh😁
Even Hylos is good in Magic emblem
So it's level 2 ult now for Alice, not just level 1?
Does work with cecilon too?
Btw donot try this emblem in real games like rank, i have tried this way before this test but it does not work good. U lose a lot of movement speed, dmg and not efficient to build items in time. Risk at ur will ha!
what is hororo's build?
I don't even have this emblem
Good build for cecellion
Is this emblem is good for cecilion?
u could say the same for cecillion
Ceccillion left the chat
I actually use this when I think I'm gonna have a hard time in my lane
Hi Hororo!