He was revamped twice already. At this point, it's become unnecessary and unfair to the heroes that actually need it. Rafaela, for example, or even Uranus.
@@faleilham8334 you do know they changed her whole ult at one point right? Like before the current Hilda's ult her old ult would stack upon kills and assists iirc and for each stack she'd deal more dmg, with the final stack her ult also had physical penetration or smthn. I don't exactly remember.
@@uths2922add that with the new thunderbelt it will be broken af, just today I fought against alucard without any lifesteal equipment only thunderbelt and queens wing. Insane damage and high hp
@@RSatoshiyou cannot complain about alucard. He still has too many counters. Anti cuirass, blade armor, twilight armor, any life steal reduction item, and most importantly cc and anti dash. Everyone in the game is capable of having at least one or more of these at a time and in most cases it's gg for alucard. He can still be powerful with thunderbelt depending on the stacks but that's it
hanzo needs the revamp tf are u talking about (its op tho ngl) i understand the nerf but argus players are the only ones i see salty over other heroes getting buff 💀💀💀💀
@@irrelevanttroll3312This is what you got from the above comment, seriously? He's saying that while hanzo is getting buffed, other heroes like Argus (Who's skin they're going to sell, star war) get readjusted and which makes them even weaker than before. Striving for your hero to be noticed, doesn't necessarily mean wanting others to be neglected. But then again, If you could comprehend such a simple thing, I wouldn't have to tell you, would I? 🤷
@@Baddas_ yeah prove that he means other heroes nerfing and adjusting is a part of gaming adapt to it Argus players like him are btchin about it if you had even a lil bit of common sense you would see that won't you i am abbreviating my comment just so you could understand Hanzo needs the buff n he's implying that he was already op this is a game with 100+ heroes if he can't play how its supposed to be he's just an argus d rider
@@irrelevanttroll3312 What an absolute oversight. "The game has 100+ heroes, so just shut up and use them how they are, good or bad" And if you can't, and want adjustments made to that hero. Or even better a whole overhaul, you're a D rider. Truly an amazing conclusion you've reached. If that's the case then you really should practice what you preach and respectfully stfu about hanzo. Because in your opinion, just play how they're supposed to be played.
It actually became worth Now edoura is his way harder counter Bc when you kill his soul he will teleport next to you so its way easier to kill him with edoura
he was crazy on the first release because of most of the players think the main body is his spirit and also the tether link of spirit and body is barely visible so you cant track him down easily @@vctmmhendra
well you can counter him using eudora you just meed to kill his ult form to kill him don't you? plus natalia can camp hanzo till he comes back to his body to yea
2:40 How to kill Hanzo in his ultimate mode: 1. Wait for him to return to his main body after he uses his ultimate again manually and finish him off immediately. 2. Immediately finish off Hanakage's body and finish off the real Hanzo 3. Wait for his energy to run out and his body to come back and ambush him.
Easier said than done. As if hanzo doesn't have an ally that will damage you when you're waiting for hanzo to run off his energy or kill his shadow. Heck you cant even burst that sheet just like zhask laser worm. And like what the previous commenter said, he already got a dash.
3:30 Now his ghost form is just a gimmick, because there is no two entity anymore, no two different bars of HP, if you can kill hanzo in ghost form, meaning is not a ghost, is just the real hanzo with weaker version of nana passive, and his ulti is just become like Harley 2nd skill, leave his hat, do some damage and go back to the hat.. you can't kill the hat.. 🤣
Do you think Yin with Ryoikki Tenkai (former Global top 1 yin) build can solo him?? Moveset: S2,S1,Petrify (if needed), wait for him to change to his real form if his hanekage body is destroyed, S3,S2,S1, Petrify (if needed). Or maybe Ambush from bush, S2, S1, S3, S2, Basic Attack (If needed), Wait for him, Petrify, S1.
3:30 Now his ghost form is just a gimmick, because there is no two entity anymore, no two different bars of HP, if you can kill hanzo in ghost form, meaning is not a ghost, is just the real hanzo with weaker version of nana passive, and his ulti is just become like Harley 2nd skill, leave his hat, do some damage and go back to the hat.. you can't kill the hat.. 🤣
Okay now that's broken lol, if they change it then I see this change as a balanced one but him still being able to go tank to remove counterplay is broken imo
Here's his nutshell desc. as usual: Passive: Dealing dmg places a stack which increases the dmg of his S1 for every stack. S1: Human: Deals burst HP% dmg to ANY TARGET, it will still devour creeps who has max stacks on them and still digests them. Stando Power: Deals higher dmg. S2: Human: Dashes ahead leaving an AoE that deals dmg 6 times. Stando: Enemies initially hit during dash is launched. Ult: Makes his body invincible to dmg, nothing changes other than that. He can still pass walls and has high Atk Spd Gains. Biggest thing I noticed is he no longer has reduced def stats
I like how they did his skill where the teeth from the ground appears straight out of him, this is to reference from the last cinematic animation battle between Hanzo vs Hayabusa and kaguras
The fun and eagerness to must search hanzo body have no more😅and nata ,hellcurt,ling,fanny or even zilong itself have no more purpose either to search hanzo body😅
Not exactly Natalia: Can silence the Pneuma Helcurt: Can terrorize the Pneuma Ling & Zilong: Can CC the Pneuma on sight Fanny will need to be more precise now.
moontoon literally said fxck it and completely turned hanzo into yone edit: im saying is he is more like yone with the changes second skill being a longer dash skill with a knockup and body not being a weakness
Eh, not really. He's missing magic damage, true damage, shield, execute, s2 should also be a knock up (looks like Yone's ulti). I'm pretty sure there's other more but these are all that I can remember.
I guess the point in finding his body is that he can still return to it, so if the spirit is being chased around by your allies, you can stay with the body to stop him in case he manually cancels his ult.
@@toshirouchiha1666 forgor about that 1 emblem passive that grants 15% hp and speedboost when killing someone + paired with healing passive + revive passive + immortality shield kinda annoying as hell
@@toshirouchiha1666nah it will still ether remover or nerf. Since if the player is good he is almost unkillable as he can just go back to his real body
Finding his body does have some use, like he has to come back to his real body if he almost dies during ult form so you can wait for him, but better hope your allies can scare hanzo enough to come back to the body or kill him then and there.
I doubt. I've been playing Hanzo since release. Finding the body really has no benefit. A good Hanzo player could just wait for the energy bar to deplete if ever he's in low health so that the main body gets transferred to the spirit. So yeah there's that 1:58
@@obviouslyme1293since his body is invincible I think his allies would be less inclined to protect him and leave the body as is. All I'm saying is it's not completely useless to find his real body if the real hanzo is far away and he's forced to come back
@@Xygard he's definitely not going to be that strong in human form that most fighters can't kill him in a 1v1, especially on global release so there's still the possibility. Moonton has been doing a pretty good job balancing newer heroes recently so that they are strong yes, but not completely absurd like day one Nolan or Beatrix to name a few.
He has a weakness yin ult, he can now be easily countered by yin if your playing hanzo and the enemy pick yin your dead just pray he dosent find you using your ult yin domain will cancel any ult making hanzo revert back to his human form and be killed by yin.
Nope, enemies will just need to quickly burst his shadow and then boom! Real Hanzo appears infront of them. Dead lol unlike before, you’ll return in your original body with full hp. Hanzo is dead with this fcking revamp. Good for noobs bcoz no map awareness needed for this revamp. No more hanzo tricks
As a #1 US Hanzo, its good and bad at the same time. I loved hanzo for having mobility in mass team fights with his second skill in the demon mode also easy to still lord while using second skill. Now he's only good to gank lanes and making solo kills.
Now his ghost form is just a gimmick, because there is no two entity anymore, no two different bars of HP.. if you can kill hanzo in ghost form, meaning is not a ghost then, is just the real hanzo with new 1st skill and weaker version of nana passive.. and his ulti is just become like Harley 2nd skill, leave his hat, do some damage and go back to the hat.. and you also cannot kill the hat.. 🤣
What I get from this is that: Hanzo's passive works lile Hayabusa's where he gains more damage per stack but only for his S1. No more blood consumption. S1 still works like before but can be used on heroes now so proper activation is needed if you wanted to steal the buff as he can accidentally hit the enemy instead. Hanekage S1 still works like before (hp% damage on full stack, I saw the description) but he gets regen on full stacks, act like a budget Kayn ultimate so you can't use it to knock up enemies in the turtle and steal the objective via S1+retribution and it's a hero only skill. They reversed the roles (it was human S1 that's exclusive for creeps). S2 will now be riskier to use as instead of dropping down the skill near you, you're charging into them. No more proper bush checking so anyone hiding in his jungle will be less stressed. Hanekage S2 doesn't rely on basic attacks anymore from the looks of it so no more weakness finder? Would the Thunderbelt passive be useless now? I tend to abuse TB thanks to his basic attack activation on his S2. He can flawlessly knock up enemies now which is nice since it gives the enemies less time to run but the area of attack is less wider so your S2 needs to hit ot you'll lose some precious damage. This also means Karina and Natalia can suck my dic-, ahem, I mean their basic attack immunity is now useless against him. His ult is like his release version. No way to instantly tp to the area. But, he has no defense reduction so tankzo will be mental. His CC time when the demon dies is now less. Before it was like 2-3 seconds stun, then 3-4 seconds 80% speed reduction and 100% defense reduction so killing him was very easy if his demon dies. Now, he regens hp, gets a minor faramis protection and can use skills to run away if caught lacking. Hanzo rn is going to be a menace but, he can still be abused. Heroes that can hold out will blindside inexperienced hanzo users as if they used hp the energy, they'll have to run. And I doubt that Belerick, Minsitthar and Aldous wouldn't be able to chase you or hold you down enough. Heavy burst heroes are also gonna be a counter as Hanzo doesn't have a main body to return to. Kill his demon, he'll be there. Heavy cc heroes are also viable. If he can't get enough distance, you can just bully him with slow and stop him with stuns or polymorphs. His hp also carries over like Yone so if they retreated back with a critical hp and someone like harley, gave his ult to hanzo, there's a chance that it will trigger and kill him. Lesley will also be happy with this as most of her shots, even ultimate, tracks down the target as long as it travels. So Hanzo is a assassin but can be utilized as a fighter or tank better than before. I guess I'll have to kiss my rank matches with him goodbye.
So i guess Hanzo is now a combination of Yone (ironic), Pyke and Benedetta. Not sure how to feel i kinda hate they removed some of his uniqueness and it could been a good addition they just gave him a 4th skill and give back his slow effect)
Okay, I gotta let this out now but please be transparent whether a change is good or not, because this Hanzo revamp did not fix his problem. - His 4th skill is now removed, which also removes outplay potential - He is not attack speed reliant, which also damages parts of his dps - As shown, his ghost form takes the same hp damage as his real body, which is just a bad version of Yone because atleast Yone’s body pulls back the spirit, Hanzo body goes to the spirit. - As shown, he lost his only gimmick (Blood Passive) into the uninteresting Energy, which even then he’s only limitted to just 8 seconds because he loses 12.5 energy per second. Sure, this fixes some aspect in his kit but since his identity is about his ultimate (that they gutted), this is not a welcome change. I respect making informational content, but at least be honest about feedback, especially since I assume Moonton based off feedback more on the content creators
And look at his passive description, he still doesn't have a real passive, the current passive is nothing more than an additional description for his skill 1. Basically Hayabusa's passive but worse
@@tondu113It’s just the fact that these modern content creators / faces of the MLBB content are only listing the positive sides of a hero’s revamp when the majority of the revamp negatively affected his kit. Not to mention his identity is just gone, no Blood and weaker ultimate. Literally just another common Energy assassin.
@@draculagaming8565 How is it crying when I’m only giving criticism? If people wants to create informational content regarding feedback, atleast expound further (statistics, testing, etc) before making a final opinion, not just by some random custom match It also does not fix his other blatant issues, a revamp is supposed to improve qualities that a hero is struggling while retaining their identity, not to worsen it or kill the hero’s identity.
As a hanzo user this revamp kinda suck especially the part of when you die you will not go to your body back and now you need to focus more on your hp bar. And then i kinda dislike the ult form sec skill it should stay the same
@@charbelandraos8192But he will become easy to kill because you don't need to search his real body now.. just kill the puppet and he will show in front of you.. and also this new hanzo not have skill to switch between real body and soul form anymore.. the current hanzo is hard to kill because if you kill the puppet he will back to real body position, and you need to find him.. even when you find his real body, he can easily switch position to his soul form, when this feature is removed on this new hanzo..
@@rip_EnderAssassinBut he will become easy to kill because you don't need to search his real body now.. just kill the puppet and he will show in front of you.. and also this new hanzo not have skill to switch between real body and soul form anymore.. the current hanzo is hard to kill because if you kill the puppet he will back to real body position, and you need to find him.. even when you find his real body, he can easily switch position to his soul form, when this feature is removed on this new hanzo..
I think they can add back the real body but instead of killing him, he is forcibly returned back to his body if you deal certain amount of damage to his body, tho wont affect his base forms's hp when you damage the body, but it forces him to return back to his original body so that you have a way to remove his OP ult form so that you can fight him in his base form since his base form can now also fight and dash... I think removing the stun when he is forcibly returned to his body is good so that he has a fighting chance in his base form, you can keep the 2 sec slow that decays tho since he also now has a dash so that theres something that hinders him from just escaping or running away
Nah I don't understand entirely I'm a Hanzo main... Unkillable body when in ultimate form is good but when his form dies, he will appear right infront of enemy that's make him an easy target... So unlike before everyone without conservation will use their ultimate and kill his form and then kill his real body.
this is already nerf, why need to nerf again.. Now he will become easy to kill because you don't need to search his real body.. just kill the puppet and he will show in front of you.. and also this new hanzo not have skill to switch between real body and soul form anymore.. the current hanzo is hard to kill because if you kill the puppet he will back to real body position, and you need to find him.. even when you find his real body, he can easily switch position to his soul form, when this feature is removed on this new hanzo..
@@gameoflife9147 agreed, this is a downgrade in my opinion. Any burst&cc hero is more easier to kill him. Just let Hanzo came to them, and 'bam!!' shadow died, real body appeared in front of enemies with tiny health bar, thanks to 16% meager heal, untargetabble&slowed for more/less than a second. I prefer the old ones. If the player has brains 🧠 to use ultimate cleverly, then the shadow can be used for lots of purpose. Like checking bushes, baiting enemies hero to use their skills, jump to most back rearlines of enemies while war to incite chaos, and many more. The revamped is silly. Making it easier to be ambushed rather than to ambush. I thought Hanzo supposed to be a ninja. 😮💨
His only weakness is: he’ll still have to go back to his original body where the enemies my wait on him. And the damage he received during ghost state transferred to his human state.
@user-xi9ys3xw4i nah buddy you'd be crying after getting countered by franco or any tank and getting ur arse dragged over there, not to mention that his soul dies literally in 0.1 sec after being exposed in a team fight
Soooo Basically he doesn't have a passive? GG MOONTON His passive literally just part of the skill 1 description 😂😂😂 Why didn't they just put it in the skill 1 description and give him a real passive
Looks like the body and ult shares HP now and he doesn’t have the 5 second immune window now so you can just… kill him before he kills you if are fast enough cuz he is more annoying now with his 1 second immune on 2 second CD also rewards indivially more now as before even if you dodge it, the tank who could be out of mobility tool would get hit and grant Hanson stacks thus punishing you for having a tank. While this one rewards you if you manage to dodge him and he cant go after you only the tank now. Stronger front to back but weaker assasinate due to there being more counter play to him now which is fine i think, cuz it laeves room for more skill expression. He wont get permabanned, unless the first skill numbers are ridiculous where he kind fo just one shots anyone even tanks which then yaknow what, fair, perma ban him.
Finally, he's no longer easily countered by heroes who can navigate the map effortlessly like Fanny or Ling, and his survivability without his ultimate is boosted which is good. Now the con about this revamp is you can't play as aggressively as before since his ultimate doesn't teleport him back to where the main body is when his ghost is dead instead it's the opposite way. Needless to say, poking enemy heroes in their own base strategy will have unbelievably high risks now as well as attacking groups in general, because if they stunlock you then it's pretty much over. But again It's all speculation, let's see how he does well on the battlefield, excited as a Hanzo main!
*This is Big Nerf..* *There will no soul form and real body anymore, no different bars HP..* *It become just one entity, it's just his real body that have weaker version of nana passive when he die, and his ulti just like weaker version of lylia ulti to go back to previous location..* current hanzo if you dive into clash and get multiple CC and die, you will still save because your soul will back to real body location and still have full HP.. While this new one, if you get the same condition, and you die in clash, you will appear in front of bunch enemy with very low hp..
@@holdupsomethingaintright7919 I don't need to wait for shit, it's very obvious that Moonton are changing Hanzo to make him more beginner friendly for new players while completely disregarding long time Hanzo players.
The only downside to this is that he can't play those risky moves of entering a team during the lord/turtle fight or dueling an attack speed marksman 1v1 in his ult form in late game as the body will now teleport to your ult.
Good thing about current hanzo with semi tank build is you can split 1-2 enemies in teamfight which is an advantage old ones better just the def reduction in his ult is the problem and a 8 seconds weakened state
This now means if you ult you gotta be sure you’ll get something out of it cause you call back to your real body, so no more spamming ultimate and then calling back safely. I’m gonna miss the thrill of hunting down hanzo’s real body though.
Finally they remembered about Hanzo revamped after 2 years of being in the work in advance server
He was revamped twice already. At this point, it's become unnecessary and unfair to the heroes that actually need it. Rafaela, for example, or even Uranus.
LoL Hilda since day 1 i using her until now didn't get single revamps, only buff her skill for short period and nerfed it.
You're never gonna use him, I'm banning him forever if this is what comes to original server
@@talon532 his previous revamp doesn't even feel like a revamp lol
Raf and hanzo are similar with NO PASSIVE
@@faleilham8334 you do know they changed her whole ult at one point right? Like before the current Hilda's ult her old ult would stack upon kills and assists iirc and for each stack she'd deal more dmg, with the final stack her ult also had physical penetration or smthn. I don't exactly remember.
*Revamped Hanzo*
Everyone else: Finally, strong assasin and jungler
Me: Roam Hanzo is now unkillable
@@esmondgoh3112 exp hanzo...
@@uths2922add that with the new thunderbelt it will be broken af, just today I fought against alucard without any lifesteal equipment only thunderbelt and queens wing. Insane damage and high hp
He is energy based hero.... So he will be dependent on buff... Like fanny, ling et c
@@RSatoshiyou cannot complain about alucard. He still has too many counters. Anti cuirass, blade armor, twilight armor, any life steal reduction item, and most importantly cc and anti dash. Everyone in the game is capable of having at least one or more of these at a time and in most cases it's gg for alucard. He can still be powerful with thunderbelt depending on the stacks but that's it
1. He has not hp based dmg now.
2. All his skills scaled with extra attack.
So I'd not use him for roam
THE STRONGEST NINJA HAS ARRIVED 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Lessgooo
I always forget he got the same voice as Owlbert in HSR
FINALLY
Its real now ❤
WE REACHIN OUR 120% POTENTIAL WITH THIS ONE 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Oh god.. Now we gonna meet Zilong ghost laugh, Helcurt lights off, and hanzo Haunting Ghost
Sincerely asking, since when this game slowly becoming a horror game lol
03:55 even Natalia compliment Hanzo for his revamped feature
Lol😂
tRuLly wiSE mAn
😂😂
Perfect timing 😂
While all she got was a dogshit revamp zzz
Hanzo gets an obvious buff meanwhile Argus gets the most confusing revamp that actually makes him weaker. Brilliant
hanzo needs the revamp tf are u talking about (its op tho ngl)
i understand the nerf but argus players are the only ones i see salty over other heroes getting buff 💀💀💀💀
@@irrelevanttroll3312This is what you got from the above comment, seriously? He's saying that while hanzo is getting buffed, other heroes like Argus (Who's skin they're going to sell, star war) get readjusted and which makes them even weaker than before. Striving for your hero to be noticed, doesn't necessarily mean wanting others to be neglected. But then again, If you could comprehend such a simple thing, I wouldn't have to tell you, would I? 🤷
@@Baddas_ yeah prove that he means other heroes
nerfing and adjusting is a part of gaming
adapt to it
Argus players like him are btchin about it
if you had even a lil bit of common sense you would see that won't you
i am abbreviating my comment just so you could understand
Hanzo needs the buff n he's implying that he was already op
this is a game with 100+ heroes
if he can't play how its supposed to be
he's just an argus d rider
@@irrelevanttroll3312 What an absolute oversight.
"The game has 100+ heroes, so just shut up and use them how they are, good or bad"
And if you can't, and want adjustments made to that hero. Or even better a whole overhaul, you're a D rider. Truly an amazing conclusion you've reached. If that's the case then you really should practice what you preach and respectfully stfu about hanzo. Because in your opinion, just play how they're supposed to be played.
no more eudora hunting hanzo's body in the bush HAHAHAHAHAA
Now its hanzo's time to hunt her thunderussy
It actually became worth
Now edoura is his way harder
counter
Bc when you kill his soul he will teleport next to you so its way easier to kill him with edoura
@@terry4751exactly...mage gonna be happy about this
@@terry4751 he can dodge since he has un targetable states
@@terry4751 get gets a massive hp regen when u kill his demon and considering now he has two separate immune, countering Eudora will be easy
0:22 now its really true lol
Frfr
He's gonna be back like his first release: way too dangerous 💀💀
Wait do he ever be crazy like Natalia first release?
Moneyton doesn't know how to balance heroes 🤑☠
he was crazy on the first release because of most of the players think the main body is his spirit and also the tether link of spirit and body is barely visible so you cant track him down easily @@vctmmhendra
well you can counter him using eudora you just meed to kill his ult form to kill him don't you? plus natalia can camp hanzo till he comes back to his body to yea
Hanzo never been dangerous lol, all he get is a buff, idk what are you on.
2:40 How to kill Hanzo in his ultimate mode:
1. Wait for him to return to his main body after he uses his ultimate again manually and finish him off immediately.
2. Immediately finish off Hanakage's body and finish off the real Hanzo
3. Wait for his energy to run out and his body to come back and ambush him.
@@fahriagung-_. Did u forget that he had now a skill that can dash? Also he can now fight in his base form
Easier said than done. As if hanzo doesn't have an ally that will damage you when you're waiting for hanzo to run off his energy or kill his shadow. Heck you cant even burst that sheet just like zhask laser worm. And like what the previous commenter said, he already got a dash.
3:30 Now his ghost form is just a gimmick, because there is no two entity anymore, no two different bars of HP, if you can kill hanzo in ghost form, meaning is not a ghost, is just the real hanzo with weaker version of nana passive, and his ulti is just become like Harley 2nd skill, leave his hat, do some damage and go back to the hat..
you can't kill the hat.. 🤣
Do you think Yin with Ryoikki Tenkai (former Global top 1 yin) build can solo him??
Moveset:
S2,S1,Petrify (if needed), wait for him to change to his real form if his hanekage body is destroyed, S3,S2,S1, Petrify (if needed).
Or maybe
Ambush from bush, S2, S1, S3, S2, Basic Attack (If needed), Wait for him, Petrify, S1.
@@maskh6212u talking about 1v1?
bruh wth
"The strongest and the loneliest"
Not anymore cause of the bad voice actor.🙃
His VA is Billy Butss
@@aristotelesemblem2506 is him the current VA ( the bad one) or are you talking about the old one?
Ofc current 1@@vsal2023
@@vsal2023 they will definitely use an even worse VA for the new Hanzo (since he's getting a redesign later on)
1:22 Kayn, is that you?😂😂
well kinda... XD
@@nathanrakaaprilian5338 yeah,but better😏
Yeah,but better😏
@@MuhamidinvlogNot really.
@@MuhamidinvlogNo Wonder Why The World Absulotely Hate MLBB Fandom
finally he's actually gonna be the strongest nina
Keep the nina, it sounds like nanny.
Nina
Replace the second n with g
@@marrymejisoo3413 The weakest ninja i must say. As a main Hanzo he Will lose a lot of damage nad quite easier to kill with new ultimate.
yeah strongest nina dobrv
Hanzo be like : You know how long I've been waiting this. Wooohhhh immabouttomake a name for myselfhere 😂
Nice one😂
@@soniactive6048 you know that line? 🤣
@@kel8903 yes yes i do
@@soniactive6048 Eyy let's Go 🤙
3:30 Now his ghost form is just a gimmick, because there is no two entity anymore, no two different bars of HP, if you can kill hanzo in ghost form, meaning is not a ghost, is just the real hanzo with weaker version of nana passive, and his ulti is just become like Harley 2nd skill, leave his hat, do some damage and go back to the hat..
you can't kill the hat.. 🤣
gold hanzo gonna be a menace.
The best thing is his ult form no longer only get 50% def which is HUGE for him
true. that -50% def gets your ghost killed before you can do anything
Okay now that's broken lol, if they change it then I see this change as a balanced one but him still being able to go tank to remove counterplay is broken imo
So hybrid build is going to be better for hanzo
Sure but his boddy do take damage when you dela damage to his ult tho
@@terry4751Not going to deal that much if you go tank build on him
I love this revamp. Now it doesn't feel pike he's lying whenever he says he's "the strongest ninja" lol
Finally!!! No more ambush!!! Hanzo mains rise up!
you should also welcome Hanzo to perma ban section
@@kievenzonicanor1160 yessir
@@ayamPENYETZ you're actually right...
Hes gonna be a pain to deal with revamp argus as well in the advance server..
No hanzo welcome ling....
I think when he died, he should have been teleported to the main body like he is now
Here's his nutshell desc. as usual:
Passive:
Dealing dmg places a stack which increases the dmg of his S1 for every stack.
S1:
Human: Deals burst HP% dmg to ANY TARGET, it will still devour creeps who has max stacks on them and still digests them.
Stando Power: Deals higher dmg.
S2:
Human: Dashes ahead leaving an AoE that deals dmg 6 times.
Stando: Enemies initially hit during dash is launched.
Ult:
Makes his body invincible to dmg, nothing changes other than that. He can still pass walls and has high Atk Spd Gains. Biggest thing I noticed is he no longer has reduced def stats
Another thing is killing his ult form teleports him to Stando's location with super low HP
Not proper but still good
I like how they did his skill where the teeth from the ground appears straight out of him, this is to reference from the last cinematic animation battle between Hanzo vs Hayabusa and kaguras
The fun and eagerness to must search hanzo body have no more😅and nata ,hellcurt,ling,fanny or even zilong itself have no more purpose either to search hanzo body😅
Wait, "her"? I thought Hanzo was a guy, or is it a typo?
@@Flownskip sorry typo haha,forgive me for my poor english grammer knowledge🥰
@@hanisrosli5484 Oh, haha it's alright i understand
But shadow form has limits so assassin and one shot heroes can wait for hanzo to comeback
Not exactly
Natalia: Can silence the Pneuma
Helcurt: Can terrorize the Pneuma
Ling & Zilong: Can CC the Pneuma on sight
Fanny will need to be more precise now.
2:14 yo why he sounds like an angry asian father 😂
moontoon literally said fxck it and completely turned hanzo into yone
edit: im saying is he is more like yone with the changes second skill being a longer dash skill with a knockup and body not being a weakness
A poor man’s Yone, you meant?
Im kinda confused i thought hanzo released in 2018 while yone is in 2020
remember, hanzo came before yone
Eh, not really. He's missing magic damage, true damage, shield, execute, s2 should also be a knock up (looks like Yone's ulti). I'm pretty sure there's other more but these are all that I can remember.
Isnt yone idea was influent from moonton
I guess the point in finding his body is that he can still return to it, so if the spirit is being chased around by your allies, you can stay with the body to stop him in case he manually cancels his ult.
Im pretty sure the regen effect will be removed to balance him out
Or lowered
Nah he seems balanced to me since i kill his real body ez in now he appears when u kill ult
@@toshirouchiha1666 forgor about that 1 emblem passive that grants 15% hp and speedboost when killing someone + paired with healing passive + revive passive + immortality shield kinda annoying as hell
@@toshirouchiha1666nah it will still ether remover or nerf. Since if the player is good he is almost unkillable as he can just go back to his real body
0:00 hororo: "hanzo no longer have weakness"
Me: *"WHATTTT-"*
the issue is the current hanzo doesn't really benefit with the blue buff effect (energy use reduction) making the blue buff not match with him
Well, mana/energy efficiency from blue buff is nerfed in adv server. So it is not a big issue
cd reduction?
@@Hymn_ They buff cdr from 10% to 15%
@@mknthnm lol Blue Buff has cd reduction so it will still benefit Hanzo
what I've noticed is, he's now energy based.. so you need blue buff to pro long his ult form now
"I will devour them marksmans..,, limbs first.. then TORSO..."
Hanzo's Ult is similar on Yone's, you can't kill his Original body but his Soul can
bet money moontoon is releasing a god tier skin for hanzo😂😂
He has a collector pending lol
They do
So all we have to do is wait for him to return as we can't teleport
Finding his body does have some use, like he has to come back to his real body if he almost dies during ult form so you can wait for him, but better hope your allies can scare hanzo enough to come back to the body or kill him then and there.
"wait for him" as if his teammates ain't gonna be there to save his ass.
Bruh finding his shadow in this version doesn't make sense because he can definitely kill you in human form
I doubt. I've been playing Hanzo since release. Finding the body really has no benefit. A good Hanzo player could just wait for the energy bar to deplete if ever he's in low health so that the main body gets transferred to the spirit. So yeah there's that 1:58
@@obviouslyme1293since his body is invincible I think his allies would be less inclined to protect him and leave the body as is. All I'm saying is it's not completely useless to find his real body if the real hanzo is far away and he's forced to come back
@@Xygard he's definitely not going to be that strong in human form that most fighters can't kill him in a 1v1, especially on global release so there's still the possibility. Moonton has been doing a pretty good job balancing newer heroes recently so that they are strong yes, but not completely absurd like day one Nolan or Beatrix to name a few.
Lore accurate Hanzo 💀
Roam Hanzo Gonna terrorize the enemy jungle for sure
nah his skill 1 cant steal buff, instead he got all usefull skill rework at the right meta (sky piercer)
Also he somewhat needs purple buff of maximize his ult duration
So jungle is better
He cant terrorize if he always ends up in the ban list😂
@@skynet8562
well said 😂
I like this revamp, the new ult makes you think more about the timing than hiding
finally he can say now: the strongest and loneliness
Maybe if you can convince Moontroll to bring back the og voice actor 🙃
@@vsal2023 i dont understand why they change his va
@@helix2053 almost every revamp/remodel has the VA changed, which is a stupid move by moontroll.
@@vsal2023 alot of old va have better voice than the new one smh
glad they don't change the walk-through mechanic on his ult state
they should've done this a long time ago
He’s the true final boss of Scarlett shadow now
Moonton always cooking with new revamps !
He has a weakness yin ult, he can now be easily countered by yin if your playing hanzo and the enemy pick yin your dead just pray he dosent find you using your ult yin domain will cancel any ult making hanzo revert back to his human form and be killed by yin.
They actually made him like Yone from League hahah. I like the buff though because he is already super squishy
WHAT IF HANZO SHADOW USE ARRIVAL BEFORE THE BODY TOUCH IT ????
Good god he's actually scary now
Nope, enemies will just need to quickly burst his shadow and then boom! Real
Hanzo appears infront of them. Dead lol unlike before, you’ll return in your original body with full hp.
Hanzo is dead with this fcking revamp. Good for noobs bcoz no map awareness needed for this revamp. No more hanzo tricks
Finding is body have the only benefit of knowing where he'll be when ult cancelled so you can kill him.
Finally Hanzo's highly specialized kit is significantly improved
As a #1 US Hanzo, its good and bad at the same time. I loved hanzo for having mobility in mass team fights with his second skill in the demon mode also easy to still lord while using second skill.
Now he's only good to gank lanes and making solo kills.
Now his ghost form is just a gimmick, because there is no two entity anymore, no two different bars of HP..
if you can kill hanzo in ghost form, meaning is not a ghost then, is just the real hanzo with new 1st skill and weaker version of nana passive..
and his ulti is just become like Harley 2nd skill, leave his hat, do some damage and go back to the hat..
and you also cannot kill the hat.. 🤣
This is literally a game changer for hanzo users
What I get from this is that:
Hanzo's passive works lile Hayabusa's where he gains more damage per stack but only for his S1. No more blood consumption.
S1 still works like before but can be used on heroes now so proper activation is needed if you wanted to steal the buff as he can accidentally hit the enemy instead.
Hanekage S1 still works like before (hp% damage on full stack, I saw the description) but he gets regen on full stacks, act like a budget Kayn ultimate so you can't use it to knock up enemies in the turtle and steal the objective via S1+retribution and it's a hero only skill. They reversed the roles (it was human S1 that's exclusive for creeps).
S2 will now be riskier to use as instead of dropping down the skill near you, you're charging into them. No more proper bush checking so anyone hiding in his jungle will be less stressed.
Hanekage S2 doesn't rely on basic attacks anymore from the looks of it so no more weakness finder? Would the Thunderbelt passive be useless now? I tend to abuse TB thanks to his basic attack activation on his S2. He can flawlessly knock up enemies now which is nice since it gives the enemies less time to run but the area of attack is less wider so your S2 needs to hit ot you'll lose some precious damage. This also means Karina and Natalia can suck my dic-, ahem, I mean their basic attack immunity is now useless against him.
His ult is like his release version. No way to instantly tp to the area. But, he has no defense reduction so tankzo will be mental. His CC time when the demon dies is now less. Before it was like 2-3 seconds stun, then 3-4 seconds 80% speed reduction and 100% defense reduction so killing him was very easy if his demon dies. Now, he regens hp, gets a minor faramis protection and can use skills to run away if caught lacking.
Hanzo rn is going to be a menace but, he can still be abused. Heroes that can hold out will blindside inexperienced hanzo users as if they used hp the energy, they'll have to run. And I doubt that Belerick, Minsitthar and Aldous wouldn't be able to chase you or hold you down enough.
Heavy burst heroes are also gonna be a counter as Hanzo doesn't have a main body to return to. Kill his demon, he'll be there.
Heavy cc heroes are also viable. If he can't get enough distance, you can just bully him with slow and stop him with stuns or polymorphs.
His hp also carries over like Yone so if they retreated back with a critical hp and someone like harley, gave his ult to hanzo, there's a chance that it will trigger and kill him. Lesley will also be happy with this as most of her shots, even ultimate, tracks down the target as long as it travels.
So Hanzo is a assassin but can be utilized as a fighter or tank better than before.
I guess I'll have to kiss my rank matches with him goodbye.
So i guess Hanzo is now a combination of Yone (ironic), Pyke and Benedetta.
Not sure how to feel i kinda hate they removed some of his uniqueness and it could been a good addition they just gave him a 4th skill and give back his slow effect)
he has slow effect lol
@@JinKolmak_TaKo more like yone
@@martinkhersawoods9646 that's what I meant when I said a combination
@@isaacivanbello8098 usually a text appears when the slow effects gets applied also HANZO doesn't have it anymore since 2020 revamp
Yone is now the OG 🤣
Now, that's what you call THE Strongest Assassin. His skills are now assassin-like.
Okay, I gotta let this out now but please be transparent whether a change is good or not, because this Hanzo revamp did not fix his problem.
- His 4th skill is now removed, which also removes outplay potential
- He is not attack speed reliant, which also damages parts of his dps
- As shown, his ghost form takes the same hp damage as his real body, which is just a bad version of Yone because atleast Yone’s body pulls back the spirit, Hanzo body goes to the spirit.
- As shown, he lost his only gimmick (Blood Passive) into the uninteresting Energy, which even then he’s only limitted to just 8 seconds because he loses 12.5 energy per second.
Sure, this fixes some aspect in his kit but since his identity is about his ultimate (that they gutted), this is not a welcome change.
I respect making informational content, but at least be honest about feedback, especially since I assume Moonton based off feedback more on the content creators
And look at his passive description, he still doesn't have a real passive, the current passive is nothing more than an additional description for his skill 1. Basically Hayabusa's passive but worse
@@tondu113It’s just the fact that these modern content creators / faces of the MLBB content are only listing the positive sides of a hero’s revamp when the majority of the revamp negatively affected his kit.
Not to mention his identity is just gone, no Blood and weaker ultimate. Literally just another common Energy assassin.
Proof that mlbb players always finds something to cry about
Also it's written in the patch notes that his ult energy is effected by purple buff
@@draculagaming8565 How is it crying when I’m only giving criticism? If people wants to create informational content regarding feedback, atleast expound further (statistics, testing, etc) before making a final opinion, not just by some random custom match
It also does not fix his other blatant issues, a revamp is supposed to improve qualities that a hero is struggling while retaining their identity, not to worsen it or kill the hero’s identity.
100% agree with you, people aren’t smart enough to criticize the negatives
As a hanzo user this revamp kinda suck especially the part of when you die you will not go to your body back and now you need to focus more on your hp bar. And then i kinda dislike the ult form sec skill it should stay the same
Here we have hanzo after years. Moontoon cocked
One thing that i always pray for hanzo skill is a lock on skill on his shadow form and it finally here and it's beautiful
Now he is lore accurate
He has to build semi-tank now, but he finally has an escape.
That's what I call a good revamp
Hell nah
@@kindplanet1 i guess you like Layla.
@@charbelandraos8192welcome to banned
Nah, 50/50
@@charbelandraos8192But he will become easy to kill because you don't need to search his real body now..
just kill the puppet and he will show in front of you..
and also this new hanzo not have skill to switch between real body and soul form anymore..
the current hanzo is hard to kill because if you kill the puppet he will back to real body position, and you need to find him..
even when you find his real body, he can easily switch position to his soul form, when this feature is removed on this new hanzo..
ME: Alway ban Hayabusa tsk...
ME RN watching from Hororo: sheshh okay I go for Hanzo main
And people said this is a nerf 💀💀
Huge buff for mah boi Hanzoo LES GO MONTOONNNNN
Trust issue moment.
@@3L4. Fr fr 💀💀
Nah we all thought his real body can be hit but after revamped his main weakness gone so he is just too op now
@@mello2238 That's why u just let Montoon cook 💀🔥💯 It wasn't even done yet but people already judged 💀
@@rip_EnderAssassinBut he will become easy to kill because you don't need to search his real body now..
just kill the puppet and he will show in front of you..
and also this new hanzo not have skill to switch between real body and soul form anymore..
the current hanzo is hard to kill because if you kill the puppet he will back to real body position, and you need to find him..
even when you find his real body, he can easily switch position to his soul form, when this feature is removed on this new hanzo..
I think they can add back the real body but instead of killing him, he is forcibly returned back to his body if you deal certain amount of damage to his body, tho wont affect his base forms's hp when you damage the body, but it forces him to return back to his original body so that you have a way to remove his OP ult form so that you can fight him in his base form since his base form can now also fight and dash... I think removing the stun when he is forcibly returned to his body is good so that he has a fighting chance in his base form, you can keep the 2 sec slow that decays tho since he also now has a dash so that theres something that hinders him from just escaping or running away
More thing to make nat take a revamp
Best part about this rework is he finally takes full benefit from HP from items and talents
Wow this is so cool for Hanzo!
With that kind of Revamp, I smell an incomimg number of nerfs on hin.
This will make hanzo be in the meta
Nah I don't understand entirely I'm a Hanzo main... Unkillable body when in ultimate form is good but when his form dies, he will appear right infront of enemy that's make him an easy target... So unlike before everyone without conservation will use their ultimate and kill his form and then kill his real body.
@@hekatonsumi4805 bru finally he can be played as an assassin, so just play with good timing
@@hekatonsumi4805 he has a movement skill now in his true form so chances he can escape is higher than current.
@@hekatonsumi4805 ghost dies -- i frame -- s2 dash that stun and slows. I won't say 100% escape but very high chances
@@3rgghh this!!! what a bs revamp
4:34 is that a frickin stand?
Welcome to ban or nerf by moonton
He is weak...
@@fallen4055 you don't know how to play.
this is already nerf, why need to nerf again..
Now he will become easy to kill because you don't need to search his real body..
just kill the puppet and he will show in front of you..
and also this new hanzo not have skill to switch between real body and soul form anymore..
the current hanzo is hard to kill because if you kill the puppet he will back to real body position, and you need to find him..
even when you find his real body, he can easily switch position to his soul form, when this feature is removed on this new hanzo..
@@gameoflife9147 also if u Burts him he will be infront of u also his body lose hp when he take damge
@@gameoflife9147 agreed, this is a downgrade in my opinion.
Any burst&cc hero is more easier to kill him.
Just let Hanzo came to them, and 'bam!!' shadow died, real body appeared in front of enemies with tiny health bar, thanks to 16% meager heal, untargetabble&slowed for more/less than a second.
I prefer the old ones.
If the player has brains 🧠 to use ultimate cleverly, then the shadow can be used for lots of purpose.
Like checking bushes, baiting enemies hero to use their skills, jump to most back rearlines of enemies while war to incite chaos, and many more.
The revamped is silly. Making it easier to be ambushed rather than to ambush. I thought Hanzo supposed to be a ninja. 😮💨
I hope they don't do it since they cancelled Hayabusa's ultimate ability because they said it was too broken.
They ruined his unique ultimate. It's now like immortality. Also, leaving his body effect is a nonsense as he cannot go back in his real body again.
His only weakness is: he’ll still have to go back to his original body where the enemies my wait on him. And the damage he received during ghost state transferred to his human state.
Hanzo might be a nightmare in S33
Still got weakness.the real body will go to enemy when ultimate form is dead.
@@muhd95 That's right so you can't play reckless, all it takes is CC and Marksman combo. Then dead
@@muhd95no tf it doesnt?
it only tps when he dies. if he cancels, he goes back to the original location.
@@pluhurimistikalThat's what he literally said omg. Can you not comprehend?
he's a lylia version of physical damage but better
"Hanzo,aka the strongest ninja,nemesis of Hayabusa and Hanabi,welcome to the ban section again"
Time for another hanzo meta
what's moonton even thinking at this point? I'm at advance server and this menace owns the game early to end, dumb revamp
We just gotta hope it doesnt get canceled
I hope it does
@@Ditellirate and y?
@user-xi9ys3xw4i nah buddy you'd be crying after getting countered by franco or any tank and getting ur arse dragged over there, not to mention that his soul dies literally in 0.1 sec after being exposed in a team fight
@@itsme558 i have been playing hanzo since 2018 and so far i like the current hanzo the most.
@@itsme558 after getting a revamp mostly the heroes get effed up so i don't want hanzo to be effed up.
Counter is hero with high burst damage or "Domain expansion" (yk what I mean)
Soooo Basically he doesn't have a passive? GG MOONTON
His passive literally just part of the skill 1 description 😂😂😂 Why didn't they just put it in the skill 1 description and give him a real passive
Looks like the body and ult shares HP now and he doesn’t have the 5 second immune window now so you can just… kill him before he kills you if are fast enough cuz he is more annoying now with his 1 second immune on 2 second CD also rewards indivially more now as before even if you dodge it, the tank who could be out of mobility tool would get hit and grant Hanson stacks thus punishing you for having a tank. While this one rewards you if you manage to dodge him and he cant go after you only the tank now. Stronger front to back but weaker assasinate due to there being more counter play to him now which is fine i think, cuz it laeves room for more skill expression. He wont get permabanned, unless the first skill numbers are ridiculous where he kind fo just one shots anyone even tanks which then yaknow what, fair, perma ban him.
Finally, he's no longer easily countered by heroes who can navigate the map effortlessly like Fanny or Ling, and his survivability without his ultimate is boosted which is good. Now the con about this revamp is you can't play as aggressively as before since his ultimate doesn't teleport him back to where the main body is when his ghost is dead instead it's the opposite way. Needless to say, poking enemy heroes in their own base strategy will have unbelievably high risks now as well as attacking groups in general, because if they stunlock you then it's pretty much over. But again It's all speculation, let's see how he does well on the battlefield, excited as a Hanzo main!
*This is Big Nerf..*
*There will no soul form and real body anymore, no different bars HP..*
*It become just one entity, it's just his real body that have weaker version of nana passive when he die, and his ulti just like weaker version of lylia ulti to go back to previous location..*
current hanzo if you dive into clash and get multiple CC and die, you will still save because your soul will back to real body location and still have full HP..
While this new one, if you get the same condition, and you die in clash, you will appear in front of bunch enemy with very low hp..
How can you be excited for this crap as a Hanzo main? As an actual Hanzo main, this revamp is absolute dogcrap!!!
@@ChanshillaWe can never be sure now, can we? Besides this is not even the final version.That's why we should just wait and see.
@@holdupsomethingaintright7919 I don't need to wait for shit, it's very obvious that Moonton are changing Hanzo to make him more beginner friendly for new players while completely disregarding long time Hanzo players.
This is gonna make Assassin Dave squeal like a little girl, and cheer about this
This is the real power of hanzo the dark ninza . Heroes abused his body too much and now he punish them all
Now he's really the strongest Ninja.😭
Yone: Look what he need to mimic a fraction of my power
From broken in release to be nerfed and never been used again to being broken again
Ling: when did it end... all the enjoyment... I'm sad again... what was I made for?
You should try Alice. Her kit is also reworked
4:05
Natalia : I will kill you
Hanzo : Let’s get up out of here
The only downside to this is that he can't play those risky moves of entering a team during the lord/turtle fight or dueling an attack speed marksman 1v1 in his ult form in late game as the body will now teleport to your ult.
Good thing about current hanzo with semi tank build is you can split 1-2 enemies in teamfight which is an advantage old ones better just the def reduction in his ult is the problem and a 8 seconds weakened state
the revamped for the casual. goodbye mechanic and map awareness
Aurora's passive but you can use every time your Ultimate is ready. That's sick
ngl im gonna miss the teleportation back to his body or to the demon body during ult.
that shits mad funny to use and confuse enemies
Omg, the troll potential of you ulting to stop them from killing you cause your main body is invincible 😭
MY FAVORITE ASSASIN IS FINALLY GETTING HIS LOVE, i will miss the outplays i can do with hanzo
His 2nd skill is literally Benedetta's ult 💀.
This now means if you ult you gotta be sure you’ll get something out of it cause you call back to your real body, so no more spamming ultimate and then calling back safely.
I’m gonna miss the thrill of hunting down hanzo’s real body though.
Next update we have decided to shorten the travel range of his ult form
They just slapped bennedetta ult onto his second skill 💀