The Long Island Railroad Iceberg Explained!
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- The Long Island Railroad is the oldest continuously operating railroad in the United States, if not the world (not counting Strasburg, of course), and its history is one of the most interesting in American Railroading. As a native Long Islander who railfans the LIRR frequently, and considering the popularity of my American Railroad Iceberg video, I resist pursuing the idea of a Long Island Railroad Iceberg, so this way I could showcase the various little known but fantastic facts which the nation's busiest passenger railroad has to offer!
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0:00 - Intro
0:53 - Layer 1
11:43 - Layer 2
24:50 - Layer 3
40:34 - Layer 4
53:45 - Layer 5
*BONUS ENTRY FOR LAYER 5 - LIRR 1134 Whereabouts:* this 1930s Brill Gas Car that served the Wading River and Sag Harbor branches may still exist. After serving the LIRR, it went to the Atlantic and Western as their #7, then reportedly the Moscow, Camden and St. Augustine RR in Texas, before ending up in a "museum in Ohio" in a dilapidated state. It is not referred which museum Ron Ziel was referring to, and since I couldn't find any recent photos of it and after asking a few people on railroad.net, I decided not to include it since I was getting close to a channel deadline for the video. This story would have been after the M5 in level 5.
Born and raised on Long Island for 23 years. Diehard rail fan too, I never knew there was an ice berg, other than the abandoned spurs near NCC, Kings Park & Pilgrim State psych centers, and the rock away beach branch. Very interesting stuff and it’s nice to see this railway get more Recognition.
This is such a niche video and ironically is exactly what I was looking for😭😭thank you my dude
I grew up on the Island and used to ride LIRR for years. Every time I return to the Island I end up riding the LIRR somewhere. I will be back sometime in 2022.
It is Long Island Rail Road.
It pre-dates the words being merged.
I am an Oregonian, born in Ohio, but I love the LIRR. My Grandfather, Homer Weatherly, retired in 1970 as the Chief Engineer of Switches and Signals on that Road and was a dedicated LIRR/Pensy man to his dying day. He never had anything polite to say about the Penn Central.
Penn Central didn't last too long so no hard feelings, there!
Nothing could shroud the pride of these old original roads!
Wow did not expect a Staten Island railway segment
You should make a part two! This was excellent! I saw some stuff I didn't even know existed on the LIRR! I can tell you worked very hard on this! If you do make part 2 you should talk about the LIRR MP15AC'S and SW1001's parts units at Morris park and the LIRR M7 battery operated train tested on the oyster bay line! Keep up the great work!
Thanks for the ♥️ !
This was very interesting, especially being from Long Island myself, thank you for making this! Keep up the great work!
I remember being on a couple of excursion trains back in the early 1950s. One of them was "Farewell to Steam" I recall a locomotive being reversed on a wye at Port Jefferson. Also going to Bay Ridge and seeing LIRR switchers with catenery, since the New York Connecting Rwy had overhead power. Another route was from Valley Stream through West Hempstead, past CLP and on to Oyster Bay via Mineola. For fun I would ride my bike to Mineola in the afternoon to watch the steam locomotives, since 3rd rail on the main line ended at Mineola.
Caboose C69 is still in use! I spotted it parked at Greenlawn Station in July 2023. It was part of a rail cleaning train I believe
(20:17) I would like to see another experimental livery with a MP15AC It would be pretty cool to see a MP15AC in a gray and orange world's fair livery if LIRR would actually paint that livery on a MP15AC and not a SW1001
Man after watching all of those railroad Iceberg videos, I feel like I should do a "BC RAIL iceberg" tier list.
Go right ahead! I was able to pull off this much info for the LIRR since it's my home railroad, but there's plenty of info on endless railroads around the nation that can be researched by other railfans and historians. (That, and it would take me a while to make an iceberg on every other railroad).
Very interesting & informative! Minor correction, they leased RS-3’s not 2’s from the Reading.
You missed the combine in Terryville ( near Pt. Jeff.) also. Thanks for the credit (1974 preservation cars) too.
As a Long Islander, i can confirm the LIRR is a railroad, and i want heritage units >:(
Thanks so much - very informative! L&S!
This was a GREAT video! So many cool little details and rarities that I had no idea about. Loved it.
This was an amazing presentation, you answered so many questions that occurred to me while commuting on the LIRR for so many years.
Notice how the budd gas turbine train face is very similar to the back of a DM/DE30AC
The solid yellow front gives that M9 at 6:30 a British look...
I used to live in Hewlett before I moved to Oakdale. Hearing the train station brought back a lot of memories
It’s it me or does LIRR act more independent then the rest of the MTA?
Meanwhile, they don't have heritage units. (At least not yet, or officially)
Yea it does
@@Pensyfan19 I can't imagine them having any heritage units, other than previous LIRR color schemes. Does anybody these days know if the colors used by the CRRLI, SRRLI, F&NS, etcetera?
The MTA has always hated the LIRR for that. The MTA has made a concerted effort in the last decade or so to infiltrate leadership with MTA clones to purposefully stop it.
Watched again, today!
Fabulous, and your wealth and depth of knowledge is remarkable!
OK so funny thing when they were talking about the oyster Bay branch I switch to iPhone maps to see where the electrification ended and then when I went back to the station, I actually saw a electric m7 stationed there
This is awesome dude, you should do more
404 is usually the troll engine on the LIRR as we called it, lol. Also LIRR mp15 still have HEP for passenger cars. Also great video! Lots of history I never knew coming from an LIRR family for many many years!!!!
awsome video. perfect for iceburg and railroad fans
Very informative.Great job.
Honestly the wading river reactivation as a tourist railroad isn’t a bad idea at all. It can also be used in regular service. The only problem is… Between the end of the Port Jeff east yard and Crystal Brook Hallow rd, the ROW is filled with homes. This is really the only defect considering the rest of the ROW is cleared
Unfortunately there is no market for tourist railroads on long island. The reactivation of any rail east of PJ would need to prove it could support commuter service, which it can't. That would be handled by the Ronkonkoma branch.
Great video. Very interesting LIRR facts and trivia. I’d like to have seen more on scheduled fan trips over the years. Specifically the 1971 good bye fan trip running MU electric double deckers which ran to Huntington on the newly electrified track from Mineola to Huntington that never ran anything but M1s and diesel. I believe that was the only time any MU electric cars ran to Huntington other than M1 cars. I did see this double decker MU electric train at Syosset but had no camera with me.
Great video!
Now, as a native Long Islander, do you hunt missionaries and cook them? You have a nice presentation of LIRR leased and historic power, although we all know, true LIRR power is painted gray and orange, and was constructed by ALCO. Still, when one considers your youth, you can be forgiven in your belief that EMD power is real LIRR power!
I come in peace, and I respect all time periods for various railroads. Depending on who you ask, true LIRR power could be black ten wheelers leased from the Pennsy (hence my channel name, minus the typo).
Locust Valley also has two stations,still extant! The original is also a residence,and is located in the vicinity! The station,now used is the second one! So Smithtown isn't the only one! See Mr. Morrison's book,and Ron Zeil's,"Steel Rails to the Sunrise". Thank you for the information,there's stuff there which definitely got under my radar 😀! If you want,I can point you to the LV station,as it wasn't to far from where I used to live!! Literally up the road! Thank you,again 😊 🙏 😊 🙏 😊!
Used to take the LIRR from wyandanch to Ronkonkoma for college. Good times
I grew up in Port Jeff with no air conditioning, 1 block from the tracks, and we heard the trains being assembled for the next day. Did I miss it the vertical jet engine ice remover? I saw it operating once arouns 1992.
I'm looking to build up on my lirr rolling stock and mode of power for my o gauge layout. Great video.
Pensyfan19
This is you're greatest video yet
18:38 nice
(21:47) As this being one of my favorite videos on the channel I decided to revisit it. I wish the museum could have been built there. It would be cool to see #261 there but do you know what number MP15AC would go there? Possibly #170 as it is still in a work train blue and yellow livery?
Very Interesting
Just waiting for an n&w iceberg...I've seen some crazy stuff
N&W iceberg?
@@Arturobrito0502 yes I've seen some crazy n&w engines
@@NW-gi1cp they kept steam around the longest so there interesting already
@@kyle.sterritt what about ....the Jawn Henry...
17:21 I grew up in Rocky Point, Wading River branch desperately needs to be reactivated. The traffic on the north shore in this area continues to get worse and the development of land surrounding 25A never stops. It's part of why I moved to the south shore and would never go back north. Also at 22:14, I've seen pictures of Metro North M3s when they were brand new on the Babylon branch in 1984.
awesome
I live in long island
imagine accidentally walking into railway property on a hike or something only to see a helicopter charging towards you trying to get you arrested
imho they should have used it for some sort of "ultra express" service to montauk or something
I’m waiting for someone to do an iceberg for PATH, NYC Subway or NJ Transit.
That just about covers it all, I miss my trips from Long Beach to Lynbrook for White Castle
Great video. Is there anyway to clarify as to where exactly on the central extension line the overhead electrical power testing took place.
Aw man Long Island Rail Road couldn’t own The F40PH’s
What are your thoughts about the demolition of all the original buildings at mineola station to make room for 3rd track? I took some good pictures before they were destroyed
I'm disappointed that they couldn't be moved or preserved, especially since the Mineola Railway Museum was planned to be there.
I'm surprised you missed the Amtrak specials that did service on the Port Washington line. An empire service special from Albany to Mets Stadium/ Tennis Stadium in the late 90s early 2000s
That's included towards the end of the video. Unless if there were more than one runs...
Back in the early 70s I read in the Daily news about the purchase of several train cars that were TOO BIG to
fit in the tunnel to penn sta and could only go to brooklyn. A few months later there was a follow up story about how these TOO BIG cars were sold for scrap at a terrible loss of money. I would love a story about this. thanks
I don't think anything that was too big for Penn would be able to fit in Brooklyn. The MTA had to undergo massive construction on the Atlantic Terminal Branch just to get the M1s to fit due to the extremely limited clearance I Brooklyn, which is not an issue for Penn. Maybe what you read had to do with a maintenance piece of some sort.
Fake New even back them LOL.
You should make a Southern Pacific iceberg
The Old Hewlett SSRLI Depot MUST be listed on the National Register of Historic Places! Spread the word, and if you see a petition for it, sign it!
Great iceberg but the Long Island Railroad isn't the most continustly working railroad in the world, it is in the USA but not the World, the Most Continustly working railway in the world is the Middleton Railway in the UK, the Middleton Railway was opened as a Horse Drawn Railway in 1758, the line was bought by Preservationists in 1960, The Middleton Railway is also the first Standard Gauge Preserved Railway to have ever opened
Second most? Good enough.
He clearly says “IN UNITED STATES” you friggin muppet!
@@usernotfound904 Ok
Reference the Bangor and Aroostook railroad, Aroostook is pronounced Aroostik
Bruh Bruh Bruuuuh Now Way Bruhhh 💀
Nice vid btw.
I'd honestly love to see another steam excursion on Long Island like what they did with BR&W #60, but I can almost guarantee that the LIRR these days (and the MTA in general) is very much against steam engines, so that'll most likely never happen
It is always difficult when the government takes these roads over. Politics gets in the way.
Question about those CP Rail units... If the fuel tanks dont clear the third rail? Then why does the snowplow have a 3rd rail notch?
My dad used to get paid a nickle to sweep out the Wantagh station when he was a kid in the 30's.
Hey I found the 2nd concert along side the LA lights rail concert it was going and it looked werid
Used to love to take the trip from Babylon all the way to Long Island City (Queens) before they terminated that stop. You would get out there to almost a wasteland, nothing really around to most normies but loved the visual & grimey atmosphere that was in LIC
LIC is completely modernized now, it's truly its own city now.
@@MattyCtrains I’m pretty out of touch now with that didn’t know. Thanks for the info
WHILE I KNOW LITTLE ABOUT LI RAILROADING I FIND THIS POST QUITE INTERESTING!!
HOWEVER I HAVE A QUESTION OF MY OWN REGARDING KANSAS CITY SOUTHERN COACH #246 AND ITS TIME OF USE ON THE LONG ISLAND COMMUTES
AT THIS MOMENT I DO NOT KNOW
THE ROAD NUMBER USED WHEN IN LONG ISLAND SERVICE!
IT WENT TO LONG ISLAND AT THE TIME PASSENGER TRAINS WERE DISCONTINUED BY THE KCS.
AND AT SOMETIME BEFORE 1985 IT WAS RETURNED TO KANSAS CITY.
THIS CAR WAS BUILT NEW IN 1956
AND WAS A 64 VOLT CAR, AND WAS PART OF THE LAST NEW CARS BUILT FOR THE KANSAS CITY SOUTHERN.
Very interesting history! In addition to KCS, the LIRR also borrowed coaches from other railroads to make up their famous Cannonball train to the Hamptons in the 1960s. However, these coaches (with 426 being renumbered to 8546) were repainted into LIRR colors and served on what I assume to be the Greenport and Montauk branches. Thank you for bringing light upon this interesting coach.
Those KCS coaches also ran on the Oyster Bay branch,too! There also were ex-NYC,and B&M,equipment,running on various branches! The B&M,cars were converted into Bar cars[ run as breakfast cars,on morning runs],the OB,had two parlor cars,in conjunction with the Bar cars!! Later replaced with converted P72's,and MP72's,very interesting operations!!
Can you do a Metro North iceberg?
As a matter of fact, I just uploaded that a few days ago.
In Nassau county
The LIRR DMU don’t look bad 42:59
13:42. Used to melt leaves on the track?? Melt leaves? Huh? Ice ? Used to melt ice
is the Metropolitan "M" really considered the 'meatball' logo ? lol. Very informative video, though. Thanks.
Wow
Hi Guys
Do all NYC-Metro persons pronounce their th's ad d's?
Maybe
Cool video *Long Island Rail Road (not Railroad)
Either spelling is still correct.
@@Pensyfan19 definitely, but nomenclature for the LIRR is still Rail Road as it was originally charted and is published on all LIRR documents, or else it would be the LIR like MNR (Metro North Railroad). Good stuff regardless!
54:56
I see a F or E unit in the thumbnail, in METRA colors?!?!?!?
Yes they have e units as well bn e9
am train
B.T. Express album is a classic in the black community.
And a lot of white people too!😃
It's not quite as old as the Liverpool and Manchester.
Was the engineer operating #503 ok?
I'm not sure. I think they survived tho.
@@Pensyfan19 Was the cabcar leading or the locomotive?
@@amtrakpepsiproduct1605 The locomotive since its front hit the cart and caught fire, hence why photos of it include it without a nose piece.
@@Pensyfan19OK
@@Pensyfan19 This is why I do not like third-rail technology. It is extremely dangerous, because if a person, or something metal makes contact with it, they'll get a good ol' high volt shock. Good thing cantnaries exist that are mush safer.
was that really a GG1?
Behind the DD1 at Flushing, yes.
213 Spotted by Virtual Railfan on a BNSF freight ua-cam.com/video/t2DhxqR9wCE/v-deo.html
Long island is now part of the Iowa Interstate railroad or not
May it never be.
Yeah I don't think you can make an iceberg Explained about Iowa Interstate railroad
premier
Great video, but for future reference: Oregon is pronounced like “organ,” not “Oragahn”
JESUS CHRIST I REMEMBER SEEING 213 BEFORE THIS VIDEO IN A MODEL TRAIN COMMERCIAL COMPILATION, THAT COMMERCIAL WAS FOR LIONEL TRAINS, sadly i cant find the compilation videi anymore D:
Why Long Island Gotta have corny representations Lol