I started working on my grandparents when I was 12 years old. My grandpa had 3, 2 popper john deere tractors. His 2 cylinder tractors is what I learned to drive. This video brings back so many memories. I love that sound of these 2 poppers.
PERFECT!!! Made my day! I get on here now and then to reminiss about the old days and my JD. Dad grew up on a farm. It was natural to pass down to me that special gift fathers pass to sons on how to drive, operate, and man-handle machinary. And I cherish every moment of it - and miss it dearly (no farming anymore were city folk now, and dad dont come off the porch no more.) Brought tears to my eyes to see dad walking along side son (holding a manual kill switch - awesome!) who no doubt was envisioning 1000's of hp pulling in front of screaming fans. Ahhh the places you go when its nothing but you and your shiny green hood out front leading the way! My goodness, some of the best times of my life I had in the seat of a John Deere sweating away a hot day. Every son should get this gift!
Grew up on a small farm using these tractors.The sound and the incredible torque of these machines never leave your blood,and one could work all day and use only a few gal. of fuel.
Grew up with A and B's around, our BIG tractor was a 4020. The A's and B's did most of the routine work. Haven't been on the farm in 30+ years but just bought a neglected B. Wonderful to hear it fire up the first time.
Young man at 8.25 awesome sound, but somebody stop him before he pulls the sled of down thru the woods there 😝 you absolutely dominate !! Great pull man , made my day 😜
I went to a pull where a JD A was too heavy and got bumped up a couple of classes. He knew he did not have the power to compete with the 4020s, but he was committed. He dropped it in creeper low, engaged the clutch, and it moved the sled. He reached under the dash to get a few more RPMs. It was a slow pull but ended up in third. He had the weight distribution perfect.
I grew up that way too, survived it, and don't currently have roll bars on any of my tractors. But I also knew family friends who were killed when a tractor rolled over on them. And I'm talking about grown men. So I certainly am not gonna fault that father for placing the safety of his son over the looks of his tractor. He has his priorities straight.
gotta love it ! takes me back to my childhood days, my Dad had a John Deere Model D and that thing could haul. i loved the plucka-plucka-plucka-plucka sound as it was working hard with its 2 cylinders loaded down.
The D is one of my favorites, especially the unstyled ones. Too bad you don't see many of them anymore. Those were the true big blocks of the 2 cylinder Deere world, with 465 and 501 cubic inches.
The cylinders are oriented horizontally. The head is towards the front, so the pistons move toward and away from the front. The crankshaft is parallel with the rear axle, just like most motorcycles. The early ones use thermo-siphon cooling with no water pump. They are wonderfully simple and ingenious in design. They were originally made in 3 sizes: the A was fullsize, the B was more compact for the small farmer, and the G was the big boy. Each of those had a different size engine.
I have been operating tractors by my self from the age of 5 cutting with a pull behind brush hogs 10ft wide and alot of kids in my community did the same thing. Parents these days try to protect kids to much and don't let them learn. Love your kids and the only way to learn is to do it.
I know I raked straw alone at age 9, I don't know if I operated a tractor by myself before that or not. If you teach your kids correctly, teach them the limits and to respect the machine, and you don't put them in adverse conditions until they have experience, they'll do just fine. I'm 29, and in my area there isn't very many "young guns" farming. I'm the only person in my area that I know of young or old to be farrowing in old school 6x6 pens. I raise hogs because I like it and the company I sell to pays a premium for non farrowing crate antibiotic free hogs. I like raising hogs because my parents got me into their pasture farrowing/hoop house finish operation (120 farrowing huts) at a young age. If they would have sheltered me, I may never have grown to like it. It's in my blood now, if I didn't farm (livestock especially) I'd feel as though a part of me was missing.
I am young only 21 I started operating a 2010 John deer at the age of 8 and a skid steer at the age of seven helping out my grandpa best experience I have
Phil H That Dad has his hopes up that his boy will be his partner, (every farmer's dream), and keep the homestead in the family. I hope it works out for them both.
Seen a Farmall turn over before. When it was done the tractor was upside down on the sled. Luckily the 16 year old kid on the tractor was quick and smart enough to jump off the tractor. The cause was the hitch broke and pivoted up so it had a real tall hitch. She hit the clutch to stop it but when the front came back down it knock her foot off pedal and then went over. So if someone wants to be safer more power to them.
+Possum Living those old johnny poppers sure could get down and pull for all the more they were compared to the new tractors now that are way more sophisticated and tons more engine power, still give the new ones a run for the money, and pretty damn fun to watch doing it.
They are throttled up. The highest full rated speed for a letter series John Deere is 1200 rpm, and a lot of them are only rated at 975 rpm. That is the speed at which they make their full rated power. Spinning them faster than that only uses more fuel with no power increase. That is a big part of the reason these tractors that were made in the 1930s and '40s still run and work hard now, over 70 years later.
The crank throws and ignition pulses are 180 degrees apart because this makes the engine more efficient and easier to balance. The crankshaft has to turn 540 degrees after the second ignition pulse before it fires again because like all 4 strokes, each cylinder only fires once in two rotations. Later engines sound faster because they run higher rpm. Japanese inline twin motorcycles run the same way, but you can't hear it because of their much higher rpm.
I understand where you're coming from, and agree to a point. But there are many dangers out there for kids as they approach their teen years, and I think getting kids involved in the world of antique tractors and other rural/ farm activities might just head some of that other stuff off at the pass. Kids that age are looking for something to get involved in, and if you don't supply the activity, someone else will.
One time when I was baling hay with our John Deere MT I went down in a little dip and when I came up on the other side the front end came up and was going to flip. Something had caught somewhere and was forcing it to flip. The seat on the tractor had no back so I slid backwards. I hung on to the steering wheel, pushed the clutch in, and that stopped the flip over. My long legs helped a lot. I was a second away from being crushed between tractor and baler.
Don't really know the horse power ratings all that well, but I personally have a BUNCH of hours plowing with a 2 bottom plow behind a ford 9N and disking with a 10 foot wide set of disks behind the same tractor, and running a good sized pto. bailler behind the same. that little ford got it's butt worked off on the family 60 acre farm, doing every chore from A to Z for as long as I can remember which is well over 40 years, my grandfather bought the tractor brand new I am pretty sure because there is a couple family photo's with me as practically a new born baby being held by my grandpa on that tractor, heck I can't even remember having to have all that much work on it over the years, damn old ford just won't quit, after my grandpa died in 2010 the tractor was actually finnaly sold to a guy that was going to fully restore it and use it to pull floats in parades, nice easy job for a rather aged warhorse deserving a bit of a break, was kinda sad to see it go in a way, but not much of that kind of farming being done in my family anymore
I'm pretty sure the guy put a rollcage on his tractor to protect his kid, not to be "cool." It doesn't matter if it has 20 hp or 2000 hp; 5000 lbs falling on your head will kill you. And a John Deere B or a Farmall H certainly has the torque and gearing to flip over under load. I've known several grown men who were killed when their tractor rolled over on them.
Its a hobby and it is really fun. My dad has a diesel heavy super stock tractor with arounds 4,000 horsepower. Its much more fun to drive than a 50hp tractor
gotta love the sound of those things. they should go back to the long stroke, low rpm engines. sounds great and they hold together pretty dang well. they don't need to spin so many rpm's they shake themselves apart.
What's amazing about the 2 cylinder engine is the massive amount of torque it has. It's got a 6 inch bore and a 6.375 inch stroke. A used to be friend of mine's father had one and when he was doing the rebuild I was looking at the rods in it and they were around 12 inches long and so huge they looked like clubs. Then I learned just those 2 cylinders displaced 361 cubic inches and that blew my mind.
To the stock tractors comment, I have been to a mega-horsepower pull and don't see the point. I like to see a tractor in action that can go home and work on the farm until the next show. To me, that is the point of a tractor pull.
those old johnny poppers sure could get down and pull for all the more they were compared to the new tractors now that are way more sophisticated and tons more engine power, still give the new ones a run for the money, and pretty damn fun to watch doing it
I agree, I had a good friend killed pulling stumps years ago. we never had roll bars, sometimes no fenders, and lived though it. I had the closest call in my life on an old ford pulling a hay wagon, lucky it stalled. if he wants a roll cage more power to him, for him and especially his kid
I wish I still lived on a farm. I'm a city slicker now and would love to go back but here in New England its all either been bought out and automated or just gone, it makes me sad just thinking about it.
i got a wide colection of these old guys ..need to get them out of the barn in workin order..lot of them sat for 20 years or better..but i know that dont hurt them
Best tractors ever made. I have anA,B & G and still use them. Difference between farmall & 2 cylinder is the 2 cylinder will recover after pulling down, but farmall you are done
Nice,can't beat the sound of a 2 cylinder john deere under load.....:):) I have a massey harris 101 twin power with the continental f226 6 cylinder motor, would love to know how it would go doing this.......
Ok, I will go along with that. More air and fuel does equal more power. But my point was that these tractors are not just going down the track at idle; they are running at rated speed or more.
Then don't watch them. Some of us are way more interested in watching these 80 year old tractors doing their thing, than some sponsored $200K+ machine that most of us could never own.
I'm not sure how much total weight they use, but I've seen reference to a "full block" of one ton and a "half block" of a half ton. ntpapull.com/pulling-101/the-pulling-sled
I know of at least three different guys that have there John Deere A's built for pulling and they only produce at most 60 hp. So you can not say that at stock, 1800 rpm is going to produce 60 hp on top of your 30 hp. I have heard some talk of a lot of the still working 2 cylinders out working the 4020's. So that is not any new news.
I kinda thought that at first, but a kid that young might not have the reaction time to stop a rollover and rolling over a tractor like that is not an option. And unlike other vehicles where speed might throw you clear and rollovers are more difficult to do, any tractor can easily have the power and traction to flip itself over.
How is it "not close to true?" The rated rpm of the G is 975 rpm. If you spin yours at nearly double that, how does that change what the rated speed is? I could spin my Cummins at 5000 rpm, and I could increase the boost and change the injectors and injection pump to make 600+ hp there, but it would not change the fact that its full factory rated speed and hp was 2100 rpm and 190 hp. These are not open class pullers.
A few new parts are available. But mostly junkyard parts and some NOS parts. That's one good reason to go to tractor shows: because people who have parts for sale bring them to the shows.
i think i may get me a helmet and put a roll cage on my H would i be cool like these guys you can tell that they are mostley stock tractors with a bunch of weight added
+John D The John Deere B was rated as a one-bottom plow tractor, and it made about 12 hp. The A was a two-bottom rated tractor, and it made about 24 hp. So about 12 hp per plow.
You said that spinning them faster does not increase power and just uses more fuel. That could not be farther from the truth. It doesn't matter what the rated speed is, throw all of that out the window and then you can make a 2 cylinder run. If I was still running rated speed I mine as well not even bother showing up. With increased RPMs comes more power if you can keep the air and fuel coming in.
Well, we all are entitled to our own opinion. But I was not raised that way, my brother's and I farmed since we were kids on our property. And some of my best memories were when things went bad and I had to think quick. I never had a roll bar nor would I ever put one on one of my tractors. The tractors were designed without them, and they preformed flawlessly. SO I see no reason to put one on.
Most Antique Tractors have enough Horse Power to pull in Second Gear but John Deere has to pull in first gear .. Some times with good traction and good balance they can compete.. but Usually Minneapolis Molines ect embarrass them . Gas guzzling two bangers claim to fame was they were cheaper to run on low octane tractor fuel because it was way cheaper than gasoline .. Two cylinder JD Diesels were very fuel efficient however..
Pardon my ignorance on such matters, but these engines sound a lot like the old hit-and-miss engines that were so popular in the early 1900's - 1930's. Are they indeed hit-&-miss engines?
No they're not. That coasting is what defines a hit and miss. These Deere engines are throttle governed. A hit and miss engine is governed by holding the exhaust valve open when it reaches the set speed, and releasing it when the speed falls.
Yeah, I couldn't agree more! I've never been really impressed with the big alcohol-burning 4+ engine monstrosities that they call "tractors". I also would much rather watch "real" farm tractors that are slightly modded for pulling that can go right back into the field and go to work again when done with their "play-time".
Run out of power before a Farmall? Both tractors were monsters in the torque department. MM was another tractor with a huge nearly flat torque curve. In the 60s, 2 brothers had some Missouri River Bottom with Gumbo in it. One had a 560 gas, the other a 720 gas, both pulling 4 bottom plows. The 560 would gain on the 720 until the gumbo, then the torque went back and the Deere kept going, not slowing at all. Once thru the gumbo, the 560 would start gaining on the 720 again. Never had to stop the 560 but if not for the gumbo, it would have. 2 cylinder John Deeres had approximately a 25% power reserve. Go to diesel and it took a Japanese powered diesel to beat the 720/730 diesel in 1984. They were hands down the most fuel efficient tractors of their time. Farmalls were not.
I started working on my grandparents when I was 12 years old. My grandpa had 3, 2 popper john deere tractors. His 2 cylinder tractors is what I learned to drive. This video brings back so many memories. I love that sound of these 2 poppers.
So do I.
I don't care who you are, you gotta love the Deere 2 cylinder's. Such a simple, efficient, and reliable motor.
That’s the truth.
It's been 12 years.I am the only Vietnamese person who watching this in 8 years ago❤..Now I seen this again.Look still like a new❤❤
PERFECT!!! Made my day! I get on here now and then to reminiss about the old days and my JD. Dad grew up on a farm. It was natural to pass down to me that special gift fathers pass to sons on how to drive, operate, and man-handle machinary. And I cherish every moment of it - and miss it dearly (no farming anymore were city folk now, and dad dont come off the porch no more.) Brought tears to my eyes to see dad walking along side son (holding a manual kill switch - awesome!) who no doubt was envisioning 1000's of hp pulling in front of screaming fans. Ahhh the places you go when its nothing but you and your shiny green hood out front leading the way! My goodness, some of the best times of my life I had in the seat of a John Deere sweating away a hot day. Every son should get this gift!
Well stated! Thanks for the comment.
Grew up on a small farm using these tractors.The sound and the incredible torque of these machines never leave your blood,and one could work all day and use only a few gal. of fuel.
Grew up with A and B's around, our BIG tractor was a 4020. The A's and B's did most of the routine work. Haven't been on the farm in 30+ years but just bought a neglected B. Wonderful to hear it fire up the first time.
Young man at 8.25 awesome sound, but somebody stop him before he pulls the sled of down thru the woods there 😝 you absolutely dominate !! Great pull man , made my day 😜
I went to a pull where a JD A was too heavy and got bumped up a couple of classes. He knew he did not have the power to compete with the 4020s, but he was committed. He dropped it in creeper low, engaged the clutch, and it moved the sled. He reached under the dash to get a few more RPMs. It was a slow pull but ended up in third. He had the weight distribution perfect.
That's a great story. Thanks!
same I could sit and listen to these all day
I grew up that way too, survived it, and don't currently have roll bars on any of my tractors. But I also knew family friends who were killed when a tractor rolled over on them. And I'm talking about grown men. So I certainly am not gonna fault that father for placing the safety of his son over the looks of his tractor. He has his priorities straight.
Can't beat a long stroke engine for high torque at low revs. Great video, thanks very much.
gotta love it ! takes me back to my childhood days, my Dad had a John Deere Model D and that thing could haul. i loved the plucka-plucka-plucka-plucka sound as it was working hard with its 2 cylinders loaded down.
The D is one of my favorites, especially the unstyled ones. Too bad you don't see many of them anymore. Those were the true big blocks of the 2 cylinder Deere world, with 465 and 501 cubic inches.
They are impressive, no doubt about it. They have much more in common with the old double-flywheel farm engines than they do with modern designs.
Nice to see daddy-son relationship. These kids will remember this forever.
Great seeing kids having a little fun
Those two cylinders music to my ears,!!!
2 minutes in and I'm on the edge of my seat!
That kid driving.. so awesome!
We had a '39 A and a '41 H when I was growing up, great little tractors.
The sound of a johnny popper pulling is music to my ears!
Mine too. Few other engines sound as sweet!
Same here. Reminds me of when I was a kid. A lot of our neighbors had them.
Me too.
That's raw mechanical power, right there. Separates the true gearheads from the masses who just like flashy, noisy things.
ah, the good old John Deere two cylinder tractors...Me, I drove a 38 A. 48 A, A 52 M and a 46 D...great stuff.
Love the sound of the old 2 cylinder John Deeres Best sounding engines, cammed sb chevy old harleys and the John Deere
Chevy sucks dick!!
@@lynndempsey4096 Yeah man, MOPAR AND FORD!
I did some bush hog work with one of these when I was much younger. It had the hand clutch on it. Sucker would just run all day.
The cylinders are oriented horizontally. The head is towards the front, so the pistons move toward and away from the front. The crankshaft is parallel with the rear axle, just like most motorcycles. The early ones use thermo-siphon cooling with no water pump. They are wonderfully simple and ingenious in design. They were originally made in 3 sizes: the A was fullsize, the B was more compact for the small farmer, and the G was the big boy. Each of those had a different size engine.
I have been operating tractors by my self from the age of 5 cutting with a pull behind brush hogs 10ft wide and alot of kids in my community did the same thing. Parents these days try to protect kids to much and don't let them learn. Love your kids and the only way to learn is to do it.
I know I drive a tractor by my self but parents don't let Jonny do anything
I know I raked straw alone at age 9, I don't know if I operated a tractor by myself before that or not. If you teach your kids correctly, teach them the limits and to respect the machine, and you don't put them in adverse conditions until they have experience, they'll do just fine. I'm 29, and in my area there isn't very many "young guns" farming. I'm the only person in my area that I know of young or old to be farrowing in old school 6x6 pens. I raise hogs because I like it and the company I sell to pays a premium for non farrowing crate antibiotic free hogs. I like raising hogs because my parents got me into their pasture farrowing/hoop house finish operation (120 farrowing huts) at a young age. If they would have sheltered me, I may never have grown to like it. It's in my blood now, if I didn't farm (livestock especially) I'd feel as though a part of me was missing.
303yerffej im 48. started driving my dads teactor when I was 5 too. i loved it then and I still do.
I am young only 21 I started operating a 2010 John deer at the age of 8 and a skid steer at the age of seven helping out my grandpa best experience I have
Everyone is just jealous of that awesome dad. They all wish they had that kind of childhood
Phil H That Dad has his hopes up that his boy will be his partner, (every farmer's dream), and keep the homestead in the family. I hope it works out for them both.
Unlimited Torque Power at a low rpm is, to me, the same as being 'able to leap tall buildings in a single bound'! A JD is the Superman of Tractors!
Seen a Farmall turn over before. When it was done the tractor was upside down on the sled. Luckily the 16 year old kid on the tractor was quick and smart enough to jump off the tractor. The cause was the hitch broke and pivoted up so it had a real tall hitch. She hit the clutch to stop it but when the front came back down it knock her foot off pedal and then went over. So if someone wants to be safer more power to them.
old is gold good video told us about our old things.
Don't get any better than this!
Steve Hufford
Love the high-traction stall out pull at 6:00
Me too; that was awesome to watch in person.
+Possum Living those old johnny poppers sure could get down and pull for all the more they were compared to the new tractors now that are way more sophisticated and tons more engine power, still give the new ones a run for the money, and pretty damn fun to watch doing it.
Oh my gosh yes!
They are throttled up. The highest full rated speed for a letter series John Deere is 1200 rpm, and a lot of them are only rated at 975 rpm. That is the speed at which they make their full rated power. Spinning them faster than that only uses more fuel with no power increase.
That is a big part of the reason these tractors that were made in the 1930s and '40s still run and work hard now, over 70 years later.
The crank throws and ignition pulses are 180 degrees apart because this makes the engine more efficient and easier to balance. The crankshaft has to turn 540 degrees after the second ignition pulse before it fires again because like all 4 strokes, each cylinder only fires once in two rotations. Later engines sound faster because they run higher rpm. Japanese inline twin motorcycles run the same way, but you can't hear it because of their much higher rpm.
I love the sound of 2 cylinder JDs!!
I understand where you're coming from, and agree to a point. But there are many dangers out there for kids as they approach their teen years, and I think getting kids involved in the world of antique tractors and other rural/ farm activities might just head some of that other stuff off at the pass. Kids that age are looking for something to get involved in, and if you don't supply the activity, someone else will.
For there size and power one of the best tractors ever made.
+Devin Williams They were built for a specific purpose. Why would they have more power than they need to do the job efficiently?
Love the old 2 cylinders put puts forever!!!
Good info, thanks. A quarter inch is a pretty big offset!
5:40..... wow the drive tires wrinkling, a lot of torque in that old tractor
lone wolf :thats because they only put 7to9psi for more traction
One time when I was baling hay with our John Deere MT I went down in a little dip and when I came up on the other side the front end came up and was going to flip. Something had caught somewhere and was forcing it to flip. The seat on the tractor had no back so I slid backwards. I hung on to the steering wheel, pushed the clutch in, and that stopped the flip over. My long legs helped a lot. I was a second away from being crushed between tractor and baler.
Don't really know the horse power ratings all that well, but I personally have a BUNCH of hours plowing with a 2 bottom plow behind a ford 9N and disking with a 10 foot wide set of disks behind the same tractor, and running a good sized pto. bailler behind the same. that little ford got it's butt worked off on the family 60 acre farm, doing every chore from A to Z for as long as I can remember which is well over 40 years, my grandfather bought the tractor brand new I am pretty sure because there is a couple family photo's with me as practically a new born baby being held by my grandpa on that tractor, heck I can't even remember having to have all that much work on it over the years, damn old ford just won't quit, after my grandpa died in 2010 the tractor was actually finnaly sold to a guy that was going to fully restore it and use it to pull floats in parades, nice easy job for a rather aged warhorse deserving a bit of a break, was kinda sad to see it go in a way, but not much of that kind of farming being done in my family anymore
+Adam TheCarGuy TractorData calls the 9N 16 hp at the drawbar.
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It's all in the planetary gearing. I'm a retired track racer and it all in the gearing.
I'm pretty sure the guy put a rollcage on his tractor to protect his kid, not to be "cool." It doesn't matter if it has 20 hp or 2000 hp; 5000 lbs falling on your head will kill you. And a John Deere B or a Farmall H certainly has the torque and gearing to flip over under load. I've known several grown men who were killed when their tractor rolled over on them.
Thanks for that imformation, always wondered what revs they did. Long stroke, low revs yet how torque.
Its a hobby and it is really fun. My dad has a diesel heavy super stock tractor with arounds 4,000 horsepower. Its much more fun to drive than a 50hp tractor
gotta love the sound of those things. they should go back to the long stroke, low rpm engines. sounds great and they hold together pretty dang well. they don't need to spin so many rpm's they shake themselves apart.
What's amazing about the 2 cylinder engine is the massive amount of torque it has. It's got a 6 inch bore and a 6.375 inch stroke. A used to be friend of mine's father had one and when he was doing the rebuild I was looking at the rods in it and they were around 12 inches long and so huge they looked like clubs. Then I learned just those 2 cylinders displaced 361 cubic inches and that blew my mind.
To the stock tractors comment, I have been to a mega-horsepower pull and don't see the point. I like to see a tractor in action that can go home and work on the farm until the next show. To me, that is the point of a tractor pull.
Perfectly said i agree
just to let yall know that they will only spin 1200 rpm our g and A pulling tractor will spin 2200 and do 30mph on strait rated for over 70hp
wow, who knew? That was more entertaining than the unlimited version imo.
Little guy with Helmet smartest guy there .
I agree. Plus, they will run on anything vaguely flammable.
those old johnny poppers sure could get down and pull for all the more they were compared to the new tractors now that are way more sophisticated and tons more engine power, still give the new ones a run for the money, and pretty damn fun to watch doing it
+Adam TheCarGuy : And they outlast the new brands by a wide margin, they are also easy to work on compared to the new junk computerized crap..
Absolutely. It's his tractor, and more importantly his son.
I agree, I had a good friend killed pulling stumps years ago. we never had roll bars, sometimes no fenders, and lived though it. I had the closest call in my life on an old ford pulling a hay wagon, lucky it stalled. if he wants a roll cage more power to him, for him and especially his kid
Awsome old tractors
This is about torque and power, not flash and speed. If they go over 5 mph, the horn on the sled sounds and the pull is disqualified.
I wish I still lived on a farm. I'm a city slicker now and would love to go back but here in New England its all either been bought out and automated or just gone, it makes me sad just thinking about it.
Makes me sad too. Thanks for watching and commenting.
i got a wide colection of these old guys ..need to get them out of the barn in workin order..lot of them sat for 20 years or better..but i know that dont hurt them
Best tractors ever made. I have anA,B & G and still use them. Difference between farmall & 2 cylinder is the 2 cylinder will recover after pulling down, but farmall you are done
I never thought of that, but I believe you're right. I really like those 4 cylinder Farmalls too, but I prefer the 2 cylinder Deeres.
the hich set up on these tracters is made to prevent fliping
Thank you.
Please do anyone know the size of the 2 cylinder engine and how much Torque or HP it can generate?
I agree. Thanks for the comment.
did the tractor at 3:15 have the pulley wheel running for that tiny bit more flywheel action?
No, that turns anytime the clutch is engaged.
I want a 2 Cylinder now~
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Nice,can't beat the sound of a 2 cylinder john deere under load.....:):)
I have a massey harris 101 twin power with the continental f226 6 cylinder motor, would love to know
how it would go doing this.......
Eu acho que esses motores são muito pequenos e fraco, pelo tamanho do trator e peso.
claudinei florentino Eles não precisam de muita potência porque engrenagem baixa lhes dá grande poder de atracção.
Possum Living Entendi,obrigado pela resposta.
Nice video.
Ok, I will go along with that. More air and fuel does equal more power. But my point was that these tractors are not just going down the track at idle; they are running at rated speed or more.
what gear are they pulling in? second? third?
Watching these old 2 cylinder John Deere’s pull is like watching paint dry
Then don't watch them. Some of us are way more interested in watching these 80 year old tractors doing their thing, than some sponsored $200K+ machine that most of us could never own.
The 1940-1950 something 2 cylinder JDs where rated at around 12 horsepower give or take.
+Rob Powers There were different sizes of 2 cylinder JDs in that date range. The largest, the R, produced a tested 48 hp at 1,000 rpm.
True Americana! Only in America! God bless USA!
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schickmann :WRONG,their are many old tractor club in alberta,canada
great video nice job
Maybe it's a motorcycle tire. Seems like I remember seeing one with a motorcycle tire on it, but I can't be sure from the video.
How much weight do they usually put on those slide boxes? Is there a standard weigh they use for all pulls?
I'm not sure how much total weight they use, but I've seen reference to a "full block" of one ton and a "half block" of a half ton. ntpapull.com/pulling-101/the-pulling-sled
I know of at least three different guys that have there John Deere A's built for pulling and they only produce at most 60 hp. So you can not say that at stock, 1800 rpm is going to produce 60 hp on top of your 30 hp. I have heard some talk of a lot of the still working 2 cylinders out working the 4020's. So that is not any new news.
why aren't they throttling up?
Looks like a 6.00x16, which was the standard size.
Now that's real tractor pulling!
I kinda thought that at first, but a kid that young might not have the reaction time to stop a rollover and rolling over a tractor like that is not an option. And unlike other vehicles where speed might throw you clear and rollovers are more difficult to do, any tractor can easily have the power and traction to flip itself over.
How is it "not close to true?" The rated rpm of the G is 975 rpm. If you spin yours at nearly double that, how does that change what the rated speed is? I could spin my Cummins at 5000 rpm, and I could increase the boost and change the injectors and injection pump to make 600+ hp there, but it would not change the fact that its full factory rated speed and hp was 2100 rpm and 190 hp. These are not open class pullers.
Just a quick question. If you break a part on these, are repair parts still available?
A few new parts are available. But mostly junkyard parts and some NOS parts. That's one good reason to go to tractor shows: because people who have parts for sale bring them to the shows.
is using a skidder an option for these things?
i think i may get me a helmet and put a roll cage on my H would i be cool like these guys you can tell that they are mostley stock tractors with a bunch of weight added
Its all in the gearing you could have 5 hp but if its geared low enough you can pull anything
That's true, but at a moment, stuff will be so slow it won't be considered as movement
by the way the john Deere B is a 1948 and only got repainted once when it was 18 years old.
Thanks! Is it yours?
It only takes one split to start rolling over and notice it was a kid driving so he might have it in a lower gear and carb backed off
My husband passed away but I still have our old 70 diesel
I'm sorry to hear about your husband. The 70 diesel is a great old tractor.
How much HP does it take to plow with one plow on a JD tractor?
+John D The John Deere B was rated as a one-bottom plow tractor, and it made about 12 hp. The A was a two-bottom rated tractor, and it made about 24 hp. So about 12 hp per plow.
THX so much! I didn't know if there was a math formula for that or not.
+John D Every bit of power is has!
Are you a 3rd grader? I think there would have to be a ratio of HP versus number of plows.
How about you get smart and figure it out!
I have been driving a john Deere B sense I was 7 maybe 8 years old but I am only 10 now so it was not that long ago.
You said that spinning them faster does not increase power and just uses more fuel. That could not be farther from the truth. It doesn't matter what the rated speed is, throw all of that out the window and then you can make a 2 cylinder run. If I was still running rated speed I mine as well not even bother showing up. With increased RPMs comes more power if you can keep the air and fuel coming in.
Well, we all are entitled to our own opinion. But I was not raised that way, my brother's and I farmed since we were kids on our property. And some of my best memories were when things went bad and I had to think quick. I never had a roll bar nor would I ever put one on one of my tractors. The tractors were designed without them, and they preformed flawlessly. SO I see no reason to put one on.
Those things are like lightning
Most Antique Tractors have enough Horse Power to pull in Second Gear but John Deere has to pull in first gear .. Some times with good traction and good balance they can compete.. but Usually Minneapolis Molines ect embarrass them . Gas guzzling two bangers claim to fame was they were cheaper to run on low octane tractor fuel because it was way cheaper than gasoline ..
Two cylinder JD Diesels were very fuel efficient however..
Pardon my ignorance on such matters, but these engines sound a lot like the old hit-and-miss engines that were so popular in the early 1900's - 1930's. Are they indeed hit-&-miss engines?
No, they are not hit and miss, but they are very similar in design.
+Possum Living 2 cylinder John Deere engines are hit and miss. But they don't coast like a flywheel engine does
No they're not. That coasting is what defines a hit and miss. These Deere engines are throttle governed. A hit and miss engine is governed by holding the exhaust valve open when it reaches the set speed, and releasing it when the speed falls.
+Possum Living sorry my bad, I don't know what I was thinking, your right the are throttle governed and therefore not hit and miss.
No biggie. Either way they're great engines!
Yeah, I couldn't agree more! I've never been really impressed with the big alcohol-burning 4+ engine monstrosities that they call "tractors". I also would much rather watch "real" farm tractors that are slightly modded for pulling that can go right back into the field and go to work again when done with their "play-time".
Jon Deere tractor the world's best my fourite
I can drive a Craftsman 12hp OHV lawnrider that was built somewhere in the 1990s or early 2000s
I love the sound of a 2 banger jd, but they run out of power too quick compared to Farmalls, Jd's arectorque freaks pretty much
Run out of power before a Farmall? Both tractors were monsters in the torque department. MM was another tractor with a huge nearly flat torque curve. In the 60s, 2 brothers had some Missouri River Bottom with Gumbo in it. One had a 560 gas, the other a 720 gas, both pulling 4 bottom plows. The 560 would gain on the 720 until the gumbo, then the torque went back and the Deere kept going, not slowing at all. Once thru the gumbo, the 560 would start gaining on the 720 again. Never had to stop the 560 but if not for the gumbo, it would have. 2 cylinder John Deeres had approximately a 25% power reserve. Go to diesel and it took a Japanese powered diesel to beat the 720/730 diesel in 1984. They were hands down the most fuel efficient tractors of their time. Farmalls were not.
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