We need more of this, like "Free rocket science lesson for NASA from Vladimir Kramnik" "Free football lesson for Messi from Vladimir Kramnik" "Free Hip-Hop lesson for Eminem from Vladimir Kramnik" so much potential
@@errrrythmianobody gives a fuck about his “chess intuition”. He is a high school drop out and this is about a scientific field (statistics/data science) where there are subject matter experts, of which he is not one.
@@Rohanifed He got World Champion in chess without school. School means absolutely nothing. You can learn to play guitar with a teacher and get good grades, but still stay forever worse than someone who never had a teacher.
Words do not help: Keeping saying that is not an accusation does not make your statements less accusing. Public resonance caused by a free interpretation of cherry picked data expressed in vague statements by an ignorant person (in his own words), perceived as an accusation by the chess community, can have negative impact on Hikaru’s public image and chess career. So it does not differ from a “direct” accusation in any way.
He clearly said, "My next post will knock him out". Lol. How else can this be perceived? Any court throws out the suit and make him pay all the court costs.
Definitely. Also, Kramnik is liable for counter lawsuit, with his manipulation of forum comments while also attempting legal action. Since he is deleting comments & deleting his responses to comments, while simultaneously threatening to sue Chesscom, he's able to frabricate evidence or the lack of it. Kramnik must apologize to Chesscom & Hikaru, & never bring this issue up again.
Could you make a video showing the statistical analysis that you and your mathematician friends made and that lead you to consider the events suspicious?
@@cryterion7770 Garry cheated Judit. Hikaru cheated Levon. Garry cheated Vishy. Garry cheated Alexei Shirov. Magnus cheated Anish. Magnus cheated Sergey. Magnus cheated Alireza. Magnus cheated Wesley Magnus cheated Danya TWICE. Magnus cheated Nepo. Magnus cheated Alexandra Kosteniuk. Bobby cheated no one. Hans cheated no one (as an adult). Wesley cheated no one. Hans supposedly cheated 100x, but Magnus definitely did as described in kBOrtdiGDrM or VInHv6ZS818 - cbarr81 asked: Do you ever log onto as an anonymous player, and just crush people for fun? - Magnus admitted in an AMA: Once in a while I’ve used some of my friends accounts and won a couple of games… or a lot…
@ZKGamer Garry cheated Judit. Hikaru cheated Levon. Garry cheated Vishy. Garry cheated Alexei Shirov. Magnus cheated Anish. Magnus cheated Sergey. Magnus cheated Alireza. Magnus cheated Wesley Magnus cheated Danya TWICE. Magnus cheated Nepo. Magnus cheated Alexandra Kosteniuk. Bobby cheated no one. Hans cheated no one (as an adult). Wesley cheated no one. Hans supposedly cheated 100x, but Magnus definitely did as described in kBOrtdiGDrM or VInHv6ZS818 - cbarr81 asked: Do you ever log onto as an anonymous player, and just crush people for fun? - Magnus admitted in an AMA: Once in a while I’ve used some of my friends accounts and won a couple of games… or a lot…
Free english lesson. Cherry picking is a standard phrase standing for a practice of selecting only certain pieces of statistics while ignoring the rest to "prove" a point. Thus there is nothing strange that many people use the phrase to describe Kramnik's method.
Free logic lesson: 1.Kramnik understands what the term means and uses it to describe, that without examination of abnormal occurrences there is no way to catch cheaters. 2. People who describe Kramnik's method as cherry picking don't understand, that cheaters do not have to cheat all of the time in chess. They can cheat only in some games, or cheat only on some moves. They don't even have to get any information on how to move, just an evaluation. Thus the phrase "cherry picking" does not work here at all. I understand that it is hard to come to such conclusions, but Kramnik was also the 14th World Champion, and has a fine mind. I'm sure you would have come to the same conclusions if you would have taken a bit of time to think instead of trying to appear clever.
@@waluigi43 How is this knowing evalution/not every move thing even remotely related to the topic here? What Kramnik cherrypicks is the NUMBER OF GAMES used in statistics. Hikaru didn't play 46 games only. Or 55 games.
@@edddo4314 I explain it for you again: You can use cherry picking when talking about climate change. You can say: "in July we had 10 days with only 20 Celsius, it was quite cool, thus there is no climate change". Cherry picking means, that the person only looked at the 10 cool days and ignored the remaining hot 21 days in July. In the case of Nakamura, cherry picking does not work, because it is enough for a person to cheat once to be a cheater. The number of games does not play a role here either, it is the performance and streaks that defy statistics that have to be looked into. Take the time to think for yourself instead of trying to uplift a celebrity.
@@waluigi43you contradict yourself by saying that you only have to cheat once and then proceed to say you have to analyze streaks and performances. that in of itself means you have to analyze multiple games. sure you can analyze everyone for cheating, but making claims about a person should have a basis. LOL ur comment seems biased so maybe you should think for one second 💀 if it turns out hikaru is cheating over a performance than the math would show that. so how about do your research for a sec.
For me, as an actual data scientist and programmer, I have found the streaks to be "interesting" to say the very least. Of course one must use the proper formulas for win% based on Elo and not the made-up ones we have seen that are used as "mathematician said" posts.
@@toomanyblocks8448 Which of the ff facts do you deny? H1 - Hikaru cheated Levon. G1 - Garry cheated Judit. G2 - Garry cheated Vishy. G3 - Garry cheated Daniel Edelman. G4 - Garry cheated in 1999 MSN game. G5 - Garry cheated Alexei Shirov. M1 - Magnus cheated Anish. M2 - Magnus cheated Sergey. M3 - Magnus cheated Alireza. M4 - Magnus cheated Wesley M5 - Magnus cheated Danya TWICE. M6 - Magnus cheated Nepo. M7 - Magnus cheated Alexandra Kosteniuk. WBH1 - Bobby cheated no one. WBH2 - Hans cheated no one (as an adult). WBH3 - Wesley cheated no one. WBH4 - Hans supposedly cheated 100x, but Magnus definitely did as described in kBOrtdiGDrM or VInHv6ZS818 - cbarr81 asked: Do you ever log onto as an anonymous player, and just crush people for fun? - Magnus admitted in an AMA: Once in a while I’ve used some of my friends accounts and won a couple of games… or a lot… Source: p1w4Rr-jr
Dear Mr. Kramnik, could you do a video about the allegations that you cheated during the WC match against GM Topalov? I find this very interesting and would like to hear your opinion about the matter. Is it possible that Hikaru and Hans are simply copying you without acknowledging as much? I think the chess world deserves to know.
Allegations were coming from Topalov’s agent. His agent saw that Topalov was losing, decided to help him. Allegations were absurd and most of chess world sided with Kramnik at that time. One of the statements about 50 times going to toilet came from “genius” math. They counted amount of times Kramnik went to bathroom in some minutes (I don’t remember exact number) and multiplied it by the length of the game. Topalov’s agent was his Angel protector, earned him candidates match in 2009. Truly deserved that he never became world champion, even though he was nice person
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@@Roman.Imperial.Artisttopalov was world champion, he was defending his title in the match vs kramnik
You seem to think if don't say "Hikaru Nakamura is cheating", you wont be regarded as accusing him of cheating, and that you can sue anyone who claims you are accusing him of cheating. Clearly all your current actions, including all this persistent obsession with showing HIkaru's statistics as anomalous, will be considered as a concealed attempt to state he's cheating. Hope you won't end up getting counter-sued if you go the legal way, or having to pay costly legal fees from all your legal actions when you lose them.
@@Macceee I didn't state. I asked. Lol. But I assume you mean the statement is 'Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates.' 1 Usually when criticising a factual statement, one points out how the statement is either false or has a false assumption. What's false or falsely assumed about 'Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates '? 2 I suppose next you'll deny Magnus cheated Alireza, Wesley So, Anish, Danya TWICE, Sergey, Nepo & Alexandra Kosteniuk and Garry cheated Alexei Shirov, Vishy, Judit & MSN? 3 What's to stop you from denying the earth is round and revolves around the sun? 4 Also would Wesley So's uncle Bobby Fischer disagree with anything I said?
@ZKGamer Good question. Even if Hikaru isn't an online engine cheater, Hikaru is still an OTB bullying cheater. And I say is not was. Hans was a cheater because Hans apologised publicly. Magnus, Garry & Hikaru are cheaters because they didn't apologise publicly. So if Vlad says 'Hikaru is a cheater, then that statement is factual regardless of the online results. To be honest, I'm semi-trolling. The trolling part is like if team Magnus/Garry/Hikaru (allies of evil) says 'Hans cheated online hence Hans cheated OTB', then why can't team Hans/Bobby/Wesley (axis of evil) say 'Hikaru cheated OTB hence Hikaru cheated online'? The non-trolling part is that I think bullying cheating is as big a problem as engine cheating. Magnus Garry & Hikaru don't cheat the way Hans Parham Sebastien Pranav et al do/did. Magnus Garry & Hikaru are bullying cheaters not engine cheaters. Anyway Would Wesley So's uncle Bobby Fischer disagree with anything I said?
@ZKGamer Lol it was on camera. I don't need to show you statistics when you can see it with your own eyes. I dare you to point out and explain to me even a single statement I made that is either a factually incorrect statement or is a theory or an opinion that Wesley So's uncle Bobby Fischer would disagree with. Wesley, Bobby & Hans never cheated or baselessly accused in chess as adults. Magnus, Garry & Hikaru have done both. Btw: This proves 9LX players like Hans, Wesley, Bobby & Nepo are more honest than chess players like Hikaru, Magnus, Garry & Liren. Liren never played a single 9LX game, online or OTB. Magnus lost 3x classical 9LX games in a row in the finals of a FIDE world championship. The last time this happened was Vishy Vs Alexei Shirov in 2000 FIDE classical WCC. Oh also Garry cheated Alexei Shirov in the 2000 PCA classical WCC. Hikaru never won a classical FIDE 9LX game. Peak Garry would easily lose to Peak Bobby in classical 9LX. I know this because Garry's successor is Magnus while Bobby's successor is h nephew Wesley.
@@gobbedy Why are you defending cheaters? Garry cheated Judit. Hikaru cheated Levon. Garry cheated Vishy. Garry cheated Alexei Shirov. Magnus cheated Anish. Magnus cheated Sergey. Magnus cheated Alireza. Magnus cheated Wesley Magnus cheated Danya TWICE. Magnus cheated Nepo. Magnus cheated Alexandra Kosteniuk. Bobby cheated no one. Hans cheated no one (as an adult). Wesley cheated no one. Hans supposedly cheated 100x, but Magnus definitely did as described in kBOrtdiGDrM or VInHv6ZS818 - cbarr81 asked: Do you ever log onto as an anonymous player, and just crush people for fun? - Magnus admitted in an AMA: Once in a while I’ve used some of my friends accounts and won a couple of games… or a lot…
@@nicbentulan i've checked your youtube channel. i wonder if you're mentally ill? (not joking or trying to insult). i mean this in the nicest way possible, i think you should consult a mental professional
@@gobbedy Q1 I am diagnosed with ADHD-PH and am prescribed ritalin and pristiq. Why are you discriminating against the mentally ill? Q2 Did I say either anything factually incorrect or an opinion or theory Bobby Fischer who is also mentally ill would disagree w/?
I have a master's degree in applied mathematics, major in mathematical finance, and I did not sob. Au contraire I rejoiced. With 99.9% certainty I know Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates. It was on camera. There were interviews. No ethical mathematician would sob for that traitor Hikaru.
@jabe77 I have a master's degree in applied mathematics, major in mathematical finance, and I did not sob. Au contraire I rejoiced. With 99.9% certainty I know Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates. It was on camera. There were interviews. No ethical mathematician would sob for that traitor Hikaru.
@@nicbentulanLol, I have master's degree in applied mathematics too (moreover, in discrete mathematics, and i'm also very familiar with data science). Kramnik's arguments are so bad, it was very hard to watch this video without smacking my face off with facepalm. But, please note, I'm not the one who started talking about degrees. Also, Kramnik didn't say anything about this case in 2016, and that one case has nothing to do with math and this mathematical nonsense that Kramnik spreads. Even if you are right about this case (i doubt it, but doesn't matter), that doesn't make Kramnik's pseudoscientifical arguments about Nakamura right, his position - valid, and his arrogant tone - appropriate, especially, if he is talking about math and data science. And imho that is a lot more ethical position for mathematician - listen arguments (especially mathematical, since that is what a mathematician good at), and don't excuse a person just because you accuse the same person of cheating.
@@СборнаяСолянка-й5в His channel seems to be countless accusations of Magnus being racist. He's also invented two different factions in the chess world, with the "good guys" including Sergey Karjakin (who publicly expressed support for Russia after the invasion of Ukraine), as well as (randomly) Andrew Tate and Donald Trump. The "Bad Guys" include Magnus, Ding, Hikaru, Kasparov, Danny Rensch, and for some reason Piers Morgan and George Bush. He claims that Magnus Carlsen, amongst other things, is a "talentless patzer" and a "racist sexist", as he once violated the touch-move rule whilst playing a Jewish woman. So, overall, we shouldn't be wasting our time or energy on him.
@@QuarantiningArmadillo Thanks for being such a fan and for making such a great summary of my channel and my views! 1 Did Sergey, Andrew or Donald do anything evil inside chess and as an adult? 2 What's your opinion of when piers Morgan cheated on celebrity apprentice? 3 What's your opinion of when Bush unjustifiably arrested Fischer? 4 Would Wesley So's uncle Bobby Fischer disagree with anything I said? 5 Why did Magnus refuse to play Hans but played Parham Pranav & Sébastien Feller? 6 Note both Garry & Magnus cheated Jewish women OTB. Garry Magnus & Hikaru cheated OTB against Jews. The 3 of them also baselessly accused Americans of cheating. So inside chess why aren't they worse than Bobby, who never cheated or baselessly accused anyone? Lol. PS xcdhgq
This has got nothing to do with a "math lesson". This is simply Valdimir Kramnik impersonating an expert in the field of math and probabilities like a bad actor.
@@WFDeep Short answers what he misses: 1) randomness (with high enough n tail risk events become more likely) 2) elo difference in the win streak (IM/FM level players so high winning probability) 3) dependent statistics (Bayes theorem if you don’t know this you don’t know statistics), beating a player 8 times in a row isn’t that unlikely due to tilt and figuring them out if you beat them 2/3 times. 4) is it likely Hikaru farms 4/5 IM/FM level players and wins almost every match? Yes quite likely - MSc, graduated 5 years ago with focus on factor models (econometrics)
@StheSharknl ty dude I also know these aspects. But from who has math degree u also bla bla bla isn't u? Only one number of propobality would be enough from u if u checked these aspects, but u just play smart and score points. I believe u have math degree but it is not quite reflected on ur intelligence
@@WFDeep I have a master's degree in applied maths major in mathematical finance. I know with 99.9% certainty that Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates.
...but...in the (imaginary) "FIDE Rating list of Optimism" (January 1st 1971)...Bent Larsen & Mark Taimanov were leading players: 1st Larsen...2nd Taimanov...3/4 Spassky & Fischer...
Easy. 0 I have a master's degree in applied maths major in mathematical finance. I know with 99.9% certainty that Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates. 1 Wesley So, Bobby Fischer & Hans Niemann have NEVER done ANY of the ff evil things in chess as adults. Magnus Carlsen, Garry Kasparov & Hikaru Nakamura HAVE done EACH of the ff evil things in chess as adults. Evil : -Cheating -Baseless accusations -Discrimination (eg by cheating or baselessly accusing people mainly of a certain ethnicity or citizenship) -Treason Re treason: - Magnus betrayed fellow Scandinavian-descent Hans by baselessly accusing Hans - Hikaru betrayed fellow American Hans by baselessly accusing Hans. - Garry betrayed 2 fellow Jews Judit Polgar & Alexei Shirov by cheating them. 2 9LX players are more honest than chess players. God bless America! Also, Hans & Wesley consider Bobby greatest while Magnus & Hikaru consider Garry greatest. What a coincidence! 3 1999Mar25 on Philippine radio : (Bobby Fischer would've been 2900.) My rating would be at least 2900, which is a lot higher than Kasparov’s. But in the end, that’s not important Pablo because the point is, I got my rating honestly. All my games are real. I’ve never pre-arranged a game. They have nothing on me. That’s why they hate me so damn much - because I’m clean. Kasparov got his fantastic rating by pre-arranging almost all of his games. (...) All of Kasparov’s games with Karpov (...) prearranged. He’s a crook on a gigantic scale. You know, Eugene Torre could have the highest rating in the world too if he would pre-arrange all his games. - ( Actually, this further convinces me Bobby would like nephew Wesley & hate Magnus because Wesley = Eugene Torre & Magnus = Garry. As described in XNHWbgAsZnA or 2d427ys5FrY ) 4 Wesley So on 2018Jun08 Thank you all for your encouragement and support. I am moving into a new area of my chess development working to win the game instead of taking a draw which I can do easily. With that attitude there will be bad days but that is life. Some players think exchanging a piece and then taking a prearranged draw on move 17 is okay but I don't want to be like them. I fought Fabi as hard as I could and I made a simple miscalculation. I am proud of the choice I made to fight. For everyone's benefit let me be clear that I have never taken a prearranged draw, I never will, and I have never played a bad game to help a friend. My bad games are a result of miscalculation under pressure. There are no free gifts in chess on this level (unless you are from certain countries that everyone knows about). You fight or you die. You have all been great in supporting me. Thank you. Moving on to the next fight. Source: p1w4Rr-Vd P.S. Wesley So on Lex Fridman xcdhgq P.P.S. Interview while imprisoned p1w4Rr-1Uk Pablo Mercado: So what is your advice to the Filipino chess players? Uncle Bobby Fischer: My advice is to give up chess and take up Fischer Random. - 2004Oct11, 15 years before nephew Wesley So became the inaugural WFRCC in CLASSICAL time controls.
@@ГоранВујадиновић 5 - axis of evil = good guys: wesley so, hans niemann, bobby fischer, sergey karjakin, vladimir kramnik (still! See below), ian nepomniachtchi, alireza firouzja, nodirbek abdusattorov, andrii baryshpolets, vishy anand, jan-krzysztof duda, donald trump, andrew tate - allies of evil = bad guys: magnus carlsen, hikaru nakamura, garry kasparov, daniil dubov, veselin topalov, liren ding, aryan tari, vincent keymer, arkady dvorkovich, peter heine nielsen, richárd rapport, george bush, piers morgan - axis of evil (female) = good girls: tingjie lei (or paikidze), janelle frayna, dina belenkaya, sara khadem (or carissa yip), robbi jade lew - allies of evil (female) = bad girls: wenjun ju, bella khotenashvili, andrea botez, atousa pourkashiyan - nakamura, nemo zhou More info: ARNSi0cPu60 Re Vlad : I view Vlad's accusation of Hans similar to Bobby's accusation of Anatoly Karpov & Wesley's wanting Sergey to not be in the 2022 candidates - it's a good guy fighting another good guy. The real bad guy in each respective case is Magnus, Garry & Magnus again. Tsk tsk. It's sad Vlad/Bobby/Wesley didn't realise that Magnus/Garry/Magnus is far more evil than Hans/Anatoly/Hans. Wait, I think Bobby did. Not sure. I think Bobby hated Garry more than Anatoly, but maybe not by much more. More info: eXHvXpOnAOE
@@tangalexander5561 Who do you side with? - Axis of Evil - Allies of Evil (See above comment for context but briefly) Axis = Wesley Bobby Hans Vlad Nepo Sergey Allies = Magnus Garry Hikaru Veselin Liren Daniil
Still waiting for his deep statistical report. None shown yet but he claims to have one.Drip feeding info And threatening a platform with nothing concrete is bizarre.
ya, I initially gave him the benefit of the doubt -- maybe he's uncovered something? But making insinuations about a specific player without publishing the actual analysis is negligent at best, or cynical and downright slanderous at worst. The problem is that, correct or not, it is an unverifiable claim, and that means the player cannot defend himself against any specific claim.
Intelligent people who make mistakes just admit they were wrong and move on. Clinging to a narrative that has been disproven is sad and leads to loss of respect over time. A lesson in human psychology for Kramnik
A high school dropout turned out to be not just a chess genius, but also a mathematician, statistician and now an expert of the law. Get off your high horse.
It's puzzling to me how often people (of all sorts) say that science/math/statistics prove that what they are saying is correct without providing the actual science/math/statistics. It's an epidemic.
@@nicbentulan You are so desperate that you liked your own comment ☠️ well if everyone saw it happen why wasn’t he disqualified, and don’t say because he bribed someone or something like that.
@@joshuahietala5174 It's not a thing you disqualify people for. Don't measure the immorality of an action based on its punishment. George Bush junichiro koizumi John Howard and Tony Blair were never punished for war crimes , but they are still war criminals.
@@boogieman6529 I’m a master in science thought (MSc), Kramnik doesn’t know statistics, at all. Not understanding randomness, elo difference (= high winning %), selection bias and not understanding basic Bayes (dependent probabilities) are some of his short comings. Basically he hangs everything in 3 moves for anybody who has had at least a second year undergraduate statistics class this is clear as day. He doesn’t even understand highschool statistics to be honest😂
Man, you could have went out with respect. Quietly and at your own pace. Rather than accept that time destroys all you accuse others for beating you like a child.
Besides, the worst and most direspectful thing you're doing is pretending that probability is "easy to understand". You're doing it for your own sake, but it's the most telling thing that you're just ready to say anything to defend your weak position. Every mathematician realizes that probability is the most counterintuitive discipline of mathematics. It's the first thing you usually hear about when you begin studying it.
My main problem with GM Kramnik is his procrastination by drip-feeding his data/analysis. If you are going to accuse someone of cheating in a roundabout manner, you should present all your data in one post. Spit it out & stop grandstanding - it's frankly wearing thin & making a mockery of yourself & the fight against cheating in chess.
No sane judge would even acknowledge that you have a case, based on publications referring to your demand for an investigation of nakamura, and your (false) claims that his performances are highly unlikely based on a lack of understanding of statistics, as an accusation of cheating. Because in defamation you have to claim malice, and everybody and their dog thought you accused him, whether directly or indirectly. And that is just one of a plethora of insurmountable legal hurdles with this 'case' you this k you have. You have absolutely no hope in hell legally. Will just waste everyone's time and resources. But please go ahead with it, sue the sh't out of everyone and end up paying their attorney fees. You are irredeemably stubborn with this nonsense so you have to learn the hard way I guess
@@Macceee He denies that it's an accusation because it means if he's wrong he would have to apologize. So he wants to play on house money, spread as much innuendo and make as many insinuations as he wants without facing consequences. All while acting like he is more qualified to talk about the statistics he brought up than actual mathematicians because he's been told more than once by now, that the entire basis for his public campaign, his interpretation of the statistics, is just false. Nakamura's results are not surprising and he's expected to perform this way from time to time considering the number of games he plays, the level of opposition etc etc. I mean what do you do with someone who seemingly is so stubborn that he thinks he is more knowledgeable about statistics than actual mathematicians. And a person who threatens legal action even though he is the only one out of all parties involved who could reasonably be held liable for some of his conduct the last few weeks. What you do is you let that person wreck himself. I really really want him to go forward with this nonsense and start suing everyone. But I gotta believe that somewhere deep down he isn't that much of a moron and it's just an empty threat. A threat that any publication will only laugh at. Chess. Com wasn't worried, they didn't retract sh't from their statement. They probably too want vlad to go ahead and hit the wall with his bullsh't
With all respect mr. Kramnik, 1) where are the statistics?? 2) if there are 'so many other players' with 'interesting' steaks, why single out hikaru publically but not the others? 3) it is very surprising that one so obsessed with calling out the logic and basic intelligence of others would be miffed that his veiled statements would be interpreted as an accusation. 4) what is your response to Fabi regarding farming, and time control differences in rapid online blitz? Your blog post in response does not address these points (or illustrates a failure to grasp the points)
@@nicbentulan huh? Failing to understand the context of the response in light of the post. Also, I assume you mean the game that levon won after hikaru touched the king and was forced to move it? Lol no I don't consider hikaru's claim of j'adoube in that moment to be cheating. Gamesmanship at worst, and ultimately irrelevant because of the immediate ruling of the arbiter in levon's favor. Why the obsession with responding to every post with this same irrelevant statement? I do no follow the logic of, hikaru tried to cheat levon (unsuccessfully), therefore hikaru is a cheater, therefore kramnik must be on to something with his (non-) "accusations"?
@@alphonsis6183 Breaking the rules is the same as cheating. Q1 Which of the ff do you deny? H1 - Hikaru cheated Levon. G1 - Garry cheated Judit. G2 - Garry cheated Vishy. G3 - Garry cheated Daniel Edelman. G4 - Garry cheated in 1999 MSN game. G5 - Garry cheated Alexei Shirov. M1 - Magnus cheated Anish. M2 - Magnus cheated Sergey. M3 - Magnus cheated Alireza. M4 - Magnus cheated Wesley M5 - Magnus cheated Danya TWICE. M6 - Magnus cheated Nepo. M7 - Magnus cheated Alexandra Kosteniuk. WBH1 - Bobby cheated no one. WBH2 - Hans cheated no one (as an adult). WBH3 - Wesley cheated no one. WBH4 - Hans supposedly cheated 100x, but Magnus definitely did as described in kBOrtdiGDrM or VInHv6ZS818 - cbarr81 asked: Do you ever log onto as an anonymous player, and just crush people for fun? - Magnus admitted in an AMA: Once in a while I’ve used some of my friends accounts and won a couple of games… or a lot… Q2 How come people can say Hans cheated OTB because Hans cheated online but people can't say Hikaru cheated online because Hikaru cheated OTB?
@@nicbentulan lol yes you can copy/paste I see. Tho you're clearly trolling, I play anyway for a moment. Is j'adoube not a thing otb? Ie in order for the touch rule to apply the piece must have been touched with the intention of moving it? In which case, we would need to be inside hikarus head at that moment to know for sure one way or the other? It is also relevant that hikaru lost the game. Even if the claim of un-intention was disingenuous, imo this is not in same universe as cheating using an engine. Which in the case of Hans, was both proven and admitted to. The differences between the two situations are immense. All forms of "cheating" are not the same. To claim otherwise would be to equate the crime of first degree murder with manslaughter or negligent homicide.
@@alphonsis6183 I'm semi-trolling hehe. Thanks for playing along. My true opinion is as ff: (Begin copypasta) 1 - Hikaru cheated Levon Aronian in 2016 candidates. 2 Vlad Kramnik is right but for the wrong reasons. Hikaru Nakamura is a bullying cheater not an engine cheater. I'm glad Vlad's accusing Hikaru, but I don't necessarily agree with Vlad's reasons for accusing Hikaru. 3 Similar to Bobby Fischer Vs Garry Kasparov case. Bobby said Garry cheated by pre-arrangement. Idk but Garry did cheat Vishy Anand, Judit Polgar & Alexei Shirov. That was bullying cheating, not engine cheating and not pre-arrangement. Bobby afaik didn't acknowledge that Garry cheated Vishy, Judit & Alexei but instead accuse Garry of essentially everything else. I'm glad Bobby hated Garry, but I don't necessarily agree with Bobby's reasons for hating Garry. 4 Hikaru & Garry are like Magnus Carlsen - bullying cheaters, not engine cheaters. 5 Magnus engine cheated - Danya Naroditsky 2x on lichess (2020, 2021) but bullying cheated - Alireza Firouzja (2019 blitz wcc), - Wesley So (2022 rapid not classical WFRCC - try to define 'slow rapid'), - Anish Giri (2023 Superbet Blitz), - Hans Niemann (2022 CGC), - Ian Nepomniachtchi (2021 classical WCC), - Sergey Karjakin (2022 candidates), - Alexandra Kosteniuk (2009 blitz WCC, a whole decade before Alireza) 6 Of course all this could be like Vlad is being like Batman in The Dark Knight (2008) or Lelouch in Code Geass like pretending to be the bad guy. This might explain why - Nepo made that post quoting The Dark Knight - Vlad accused both Hans & Hikaru who are on opposite sides of axis of evil vs allies of evil. - axis of evil = good guys: wesley so, hans niemann, bobby fischer, sergey karjakin, ian nepomniachtchi, alireza firouzja, nodirbek abdusattorov, jan-krzysztof duda, donald trump, andrew tate - allies of evil = bad guys: magnus carlsen, hikaru nakamura, garry kasparov, daniil dubov, liren ding, aryan tari, vincent keymer, richárd rapport, george bush, piers morgan More info: ARNSi0cPu60 (End copypasta) For me, actions can be legally unequal but morally equal. Like George Bush war crimes in Iraq is part of the allies of evil while the analogue is axis of evil regular crimes. I think this is what Jesus was saying about how Pharisees are worse than prostitutes & tax collectors. Also Nassim Nicholas Taleb in saying some academics are worse than prostitutes etc. (Lots of comparisons to prostitutes. Lol.) Also Bobby with inventing 'allies of evil' as a counter to bush's 'axis of evil' like Bobby doesn't deny that Iran, Iraq North Korea are evil - Bobby just says that US, UK, Japan & Australia are evil too. So for me even if Hans intentionally cheated online, I find it as morally evil as when Hikaru cheated Levon OTB, Magnus cheated so and so OTB, Garry cheated so and so OTB, even if legally they are not the same level of evil. Anyway Q1 - come on defining cheating as breaking the rules whether intentionally or negligently (negligence afaik means 'dishonest mistake' like an honest mistake wouldn't be penalised eg when Kobe Bryant died), Hikaru Magnus & Garry really did cheat those people right (ok fine except possibly for Hans in 2022 CGC, Wesley in 2022 WFRCC & Sergey in 2022 Candidates - that's mostly speculation) ? Q2 - but anyway alphonsis6183 - who do you side with: the axis of evil? Or thee allies of evil? (To clarify, I'm going back to talking about chess. Lol.) Well anyway merry Christmas happy new year and happy holidays! Thanks again for playing along with my semi-trolling.
The problem is Kramnik never considered to look at the times that Hikaru loses twice in a row. With his own calculations, if Hikaru has 95% chance to beat someone and a 45 game winstreaks is suspicious you should also look at the times he loses 2 times in a row, when he should be winning 95% of the games. In fact 0.95^45 = 0.099 is roughly 10%(edited from 1% to 10% cause I made a rounding error), then he loses to that person 2 times in a row which is 0.05^2 = 0.0025 or 0.25% so his chances of winning 45 games in a row against someone like that is higher than losing twice and if you look at his match history, he has many streaks of like 30-40 games or something and then loses once or twice. If you calculate the whole scenario it actually comes out to Hikaru underperforming, but you just see 45 game winstreak and a 2 game losing streak doesn't look that shocking, which in reality it actually really is. Henceforth it makes no sense to cherry pick his win streaks and disregarding whenever he loses games completely. Unfortunately you are lacking knowledge in data science and just for your information, the math I did here is also not the proper way to calculate these scenarios, I just wanted to use your own logic to show you that your own logic contradicts itself and it just doesn't work the way you want to... cherry picking wins would make anyone seem suspicious. I am a physics student btw so nothing special but I'd say I know a bit more about maths than you.
You say that 0.099 is roughly 1% when it is roughly 10%. 0.099 * 100 = 9.9. This doesn't change anything about your conclusion, however you should be more careful with your superior math abilities.
@@pargd6236 It's just that in my head I made a rounding error turned 0.099 into 0.01 instead of 0.1 but yeah conclusion stays the same. I just came home from a 4 hour chess game, got some food and typed that comment cut me some slack :D at least I can accept when I made a calculation error as opposed to mr ex world champ trying to teach university math professors overhere
The least likely explanation for going to the bathroom over 100 times in 4 world chess championship games is that the player in question is clean. I will be posting something to knock this player out soon. I am not accusing this player.
Watching this on a saturday afteenoon, cause I have no plans... God, I really need friends Edit: why is everybody using the same words when speaking the same language?! 😮
Maybe it's interesting because Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates. Also Garry cheated Judit. Garry cheated Vishy. Garry cheated Alexei Shirov. Magnus cheated Anish. Magnus cheated Sergey. Magnus cheated Alireza. Magnus cheated Wesley Magnus cheated Danya TWICE. Magnus cheated Nepo. Magnus cheated Alexandra Kosteniuk. Bobby cheated no one. Hans cheated no one (as an adult). Wesley cheated no one. Hans supposedly cheated 100x, but Magnus definitely did as described in kBOrtdiGDrM or VInHv6ZS818 - cbarr81 asked: Do you ever log onto as an anonymous player, and just crush people for fun? - Magnus admitted in an AMA: Once in a while I’ve used some of my friends accounts and won a couple of games… or a lot…
This video is slightly incoherent, but he did mention some hypothesis in a previous interviews and tweets. 1) Some players have higher "accuracy" in the last 4 games of Titles Tuesday, compared to the first 7 games. 2) Some young players have higher accuracy online than when they had when they played live in Samarkand. 3) I don't think that Kramnik fully believes that farming is possible, and that explains his comments on winning streaks. 4) The oponents of Magnus and Hikaru have higher lower accuracy than the opponents of Kramnik in Titled Tuesday (tweet jan 3) I don't agree with all of these points, but I would love to see more blog posts with data analysis on cheating in chess.
you want a proof that players plays fair, thing it, it should be other way around... you should prove that someone is not acting fair. So far, you didn't at all, even if you think so. And as many other have mentioned, you probably need to read a bit about statistics .
Hikaru should prove that Hikaru didn't cheat Levon in the 2016 candidates since the arbiter agreed with Levon. After you're convicted, you're guilty until proven innocent.
No, Hikaru is not cheating. But yes, online cheating is a very big problem. Now what? It seems to me that there is too much ego and too much money in online chess and it shouldn't be taken so seriously.
for Hikaru it is enough to just see a light bulb/thermometer once every few games when the position is won. The only way to find out is to drug the samurai and find out the truth under terrible torture.
Even if you did not directly accuse Hikaru, you did place a huge amount of attention on trying to get the world to investigate his streaks and games. This act is damaging to his reputation and not to mention, yours. This is in fact, a legal argument to say you did accuse Hikaru. Whether or not you directly have done so is completely irrelevant. No jury in the United States will believe what you did was right.
I think Hikaru smurfing for entertainment and farming lower rated players for stats has not only already damaged his own reputation, but also the reputation of online chess in general.
@@cooloutac farming has been a reality of online gaming for decades now. Chess has got to keep up with the times. The only ones who don't understand or like it are those who haven't spent a decent amount of time gaming in general, typically those older than 45/50 +
@@patrickpet7905 Keep up with the times? Thats your excuse? Everyone cheats so I might as well too? Guess we know what you do on the website buddy.... just wow. And I have to tell you, everybody has always cheated in online gaming, but this is the first community and corrupt site to openly admit it in public and exclaim there is nothing wrong with. The most popular game of all time LoL, coined the term smurfing, because their core community in the beginning took that game to cable tv before it got all cheated out. But I'm stunned that you have the picture of an adult in your photo. IS this really why chess has been unpopular in western society for 100s of years? Is this really what most chess players are like? Fischer has always been right? Its to the point now I'm embarrassed to even tell anyone i'm a fan of chess. just wow... I just can't believe you are 45, you have to be a child. There is no way thats your excuse. I'm stunned.
I saw a similar quote a year ago, and it was something close to the following: "Even if you did not directly accuse Hans, you did place a huge amount of attention on trying to get the world to investigate his games. This act is damaging to his reputation and not to mention, yours." Hikaru 2022 comments are very different from Hikaru 2023 comments.
@@patrickpet7905 BTW I've been advocating for fair play and competitive matches in online gaming for almost 30 years. But yes for someone like Kramnik this is an absolute culture shock. Its basically evil bud, you are condoning evil and this is why e-sports have never been popular and will never have valid career paths for anyone. Don't you understand that? This website exploiting the anonymity that has plagued online games is pure corruption.
22:20 you said "he's having an incredible streak" how do YOU still not understand that it's not about streaks but the overall performance? really disappointing.
You're Kramnik. You optimized your entire life around becoming world champion in classical. Then, you optimized having the highest Elo second and the most money third. (Or perhaps you optimized these three differently, depending on the type of person you are.) People who stream themselves playing chess all day are optimizing creating situations that bring the viewers. Events that make people click their UA-cam videos. Imagine if your only concern was to achieve wins on chessc against opponents of a certain rating and nothing more. You don't pick opponents that will challenge you, because the viewers don't like to see their hero lose 50% of their matches. You play no increment as it's easier to win lost positions, especially if you're quick like Hikaru is + you create interesting complications that burn clock time like he does. Getting a winning streak means a cool video with lots of clicks. You might do many different things with a mindset like this that you aren't considering, because this type of stuff isn't your current goal and has never been your goal. Perhaps, Hikaru tries to play people from timezones that are late since tired people are easier to beat. Perhaps, he does preparation against no name players specifically in blitz, because he knows he encounters them a lot. Off stream, maybe he's going over the openings of all sorts of random people that a "pure" chess player would have no interest in playing and beating repeatedly since they are not in the top 20 worldwide. Maybe, Hikaru doesn't do a rematch to someone who drew him, beat him, or to someone who seems to be playing drawish chess rather than fighting, risky chess. So he's intentionally picking weaker players that are in the mood to lose (with a small chance to win) rather than in the mood to tell other people that they drew Hikaru. I believe your #1 error in your argument is the assumption that Elo perfectly predicts the outcome of matches. In reality, if you pick any two chess players with their particular current mood, their play styles, their opening repertoire, the tricks in blitz they see/do not see, their gaps in chess knowledge, etc. and have them play each other, the results might deviate from what their Elo difference would predict by a large margin. I'm sure you know well that Shirov never beat Kasparov in a match. Doesn't knowing something like that tell you that Elo isn't a perfect model, and the actual results of a pair of specific players going at it for 1,000 games might differ than predicted? Elo is there to approximate something, not to tell a person exactly how the future will play out. There are other variables too like a player could be drunk, playing worse than their Elo would predict. Maybe, an opponent is having a bad day for a million possible reasons like drama in their personal life, having had a bad night of sleep, or anything else. Perhaps, when Hikaru is feeling off, he plays people even lower than normal, taking precautions not to put up a bad show for his fans. A person might play nonserious openings just for the fun of it, but Hikaru knows exactly how to win against it. Or maybe Hikaru knows an offbeat line that he correctly predicts this and that player will falter to with high probability. Perhaps, Hikaru has an internal model for how good each player is at blitz, and he plays it like the stock market. He plays when a person is overrated and does not play when a player is underrated. The list of real variables someone like Hikaru might be observing and optimizing around to farm players is vast. It's an actual business, he has a good mind, and he has undoubtedly invested a good deal of time into how to farm efficiently so that his viewers keep coming back. Put yourself in Hikaru's shoes and try for a second to consider what you would do to farm. I'm sure you could do it too if that were a concern of yours. (Although blitz is a young man's game, so you likely can't match how well Hikaru or Alireza does it. You still could improve the number and size of your own streaks.) It's just never been on your radar, because you find it to be a waste of time. While you see it as a waste of time, he sees it as a way to earn money as a job. I caught wind of all of this drama recently and watched your videos, read your blog posts, watched a few chess content creator videos about it, etc. I think people took your original concern that maybe a proper statistical analysis can prove some cheating in TT. The issues really started when you assumed Elo is perfect to predict matches between any pair of players, using it to calculate stuff and then set your sights on Hikaru with that assumption. Does classical Elo predict well? Probably, because everyone showing up to tournaments have prepared to the max and are there with their game face to win. It probably predicts pretty well who will win a classical chess tournament for that reason. Now, casual blitz that has so many different variables like I discussed up above? You're treating chessc Elo with as much respect as you treat FIDE classical Elo. For so many reasons, a top 5 Blitz player in the entire world can farm people quite well if they put their minds to it, doing stuff you just haven't ever thought of or considered as you've never had as a goal to get as many streaks as possible. That's basically his job, so he has optimized for it. He likes to win a bunch against people with a big enough chessc Elo that his crowd thinks, "Wow, this is amazing." That's it. If you put yourself in his shoes, I think you will start to understand why his feats are quite possible when a person of his talent that has worked as much as he has puts his mind to it. PS I hear you don't premove when you play blitz. This is an essential skill as you burn a lot of valuable time not doing that. Hikaru, Magnus, Naroditsky, etc. all premove. If you apply your mind to the theory of premoving, you might also discover some new techniques that matter only in chessc blitz matches that will boost your performance. You've got to look at all the variables and optimize against them. Also, cheating in online games has been a thing ever since there was an online game and people playing it. Everyone wants the cheaters to be caught, but since it's a game of cat and mouse, it's an impossible goal. You have to accept this if you are going to play games online. Even in your videos, you detail how easy it is for a real chess player to cheat in a way difficult to detect. They're not just doing top Stockfish moves at depth 28 every single move, and as they are a chess player, they can choose not to play an engine line if it looks weird. It's an unsolvable problem. Every company that deals in providing an online game tries to minimize discussion of how many people are cheating. They just give it their best, and they might even do a little PR thing here and there saying fabricated stuff about the percent of cheaters and whatnot. It's a business after all, and they make the most money when people choose to play. A game being overran by cheaters is a reason many would not play. It is what it is. I think focus on cheating by titled players in money tournaments is an honorable discussion, but I wouldn't push for chessc to be honest about how many people cheat overall. It's not a realistic thing for them to discuss in an honest fashion. That's just the way it works. Part of the efficiency of how their systems work is simply the illusion that their system works. A titled player who would cheat might not just out of fear of getting caught. That's likely the most effective impact of their system to be honest. And the parts of their system that do actually catch people, it must stay secret. I was surprised they even published a report for Hans. They can't publish 100-page reports about 10 players a month or something. It would just show how rackety their system is and how it doesn't work as well as people would like. Their best defense against cheating is 1.) active detection with camera requirements and stuff like that and 2.) People fearing their magical system detecting them. I think your suspicion about Hikaru is misguided though. Perhaps, your suspicion about others is as well, because Elo isn't a perfect model. There are many variables to consider when one particular person plays another particular person in a game of online blitz. As a simple example, an OK player might play a bit better against a legendary player simply because they have studied their blitz games while the better player hasn't studied the other person's games. Very many variables to consider. I think chessc having camera requirements likely eliminates almost all titled players cheating in tournaments. The statistics you're bringing up are devoid of all the tiny details that statistics ignore that are important in a situation like this e.g. worse players studying the games of better players but the reverse not happening.
Bro, you have no idea about math and data analysis. Your elo in math is 500. The section from 8:23 to 12:42 proves why education is important. Stay in school, guys
27:00 in terms of transperancy I think we completely understand your point I mean why are they hiding all these case of top players it should be transparent especially whk have cheated in a tournament who its unfair to their peers and to us spectator specially
I don’t accuse anyone. I’m just saying that it’s strange that you play so well and you have so many wins in a row, a heart earlier that people had asked if you were cheating but I don’t accuse you. Lol 😂
Oh! it's gonna be such a delight to see his "legal case"... I'm just waiting for this man to fugg up, hope that trial goes live so we can all watch and laugh together. Also... i'm not talking about hikaru, that's a lie. But lets make sure the results show that he cheated... oh sory sorry, he or she,,, Edit: Holy cow!, all this nonsense gave me a real headache... someone give this man his pills ....
I'll give you a free math lesson too. Given how you had 80+ games that you were unbeaten in, using the SAME way you calculated, it's logical to assume you cheated too. In fact you cheated more than hikaru calculating it the same way. Its very clear to me that you don't have an "expert" mathematician there and you're posing as an expert cause you think stats is basic maths. It's genuinely embarrassing.
Владимир Борисович, вы недавно английский изучаете? Говорите очень не уверенно, постоянные паузы каждые 3-4 слова. При всём уважении, но это сильно отталкивает людей, эти постоянные "эээ", "ааа". Если пока не можете обойтись без этих пауз, может стоит заготавливать текст для выступления перед съёмкой видео?
I fully support Kramnik, many people try to make him out to be a madman, an embittered man, but I see him as a courageous person who is trying to lift the curtain on the scourge of chess cheating.
Literally the only voice of reason among top GMs because he has nothing to lose. He was already world champion and will never be again. He can speak freely, while the rest of the GMs who are active can only post sarcastic and satirical insinuations. We should applaud his attempts to get FIDE to grow some balls and actually secure the game.
Except that he isn't. He's become completely *obsessed* with proving a meritless and ridiculous accusation against Nakamura that flies in the face of objective facts. If he wants to attack cheating in chess, go ahead - it's a worthy cause! But don't get involved in some petty vendetta against a fellow GM which lacks any factual basis.
Vlad is right that Hikaru is a cheater. I have a master's degree in applied maths major in mathematical finance. I know with 99.9% certainty that Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates.
@@nicbentulan What has "j'adoube " rule got to do with the issue of online engine-cheating or your made up "master's degree"? You're even more crazy than the stubborn russian.
Will all due respect, your initiative to look out for cheaters is interesting, but your understanding of online chess (especially blitz and bullet with no increment) is deceptively poor and this is stunning to everyone who practices and also watch it on a regular basis. Clearly you've pretty much never followed online blitz and don't get much of it's specificities, you're heading in the wrong way pretty badly right now and this is just just a casual player who does follow online blitz talking, no fan of Hikaru or whatever you'd rather like me to be.
Kramnik is liable for counter lawsuit, with his manipulation of forum comments while also attempting legal action. Since he is deleting comments & deleting his responses to comments, while simultaneously threatening to sue Chesscom, he's able to frabricate evidence or the lack of it. Kramnik must apologize to Chesscom & Hikaru, & never bring this issue up again.
@@cooloutac whats your point? Hikaru smurfing does not take rating points away from his opponents so they arent effected by it. A ton of people actually reach out to him on his channel after they realize it is him and mention they had fun playing against him. I might suck at chess but this is the only shot I and many others can get at en playing against a top player in the world.
But he's not doing that, he's just accusing somone of cheating, while giving 0 statistical evidence atl all. That is not helping to eliminate cheating, he's just obfuscating.
@@Soundy_ He's not accusing anyone, merely pointing out how the website makes exceptions and doesn't treat everyone the same. Which is very important. Anybody elses account should of been immediately flagged and scrutinized.
@@sdaiwepm legitimate anti cheating efforts? You mean how they make exceptions for some people to cheat like HIkaru in his streams? Like how they threw out a 55,000 number for hikaru games over 10 yhears to explain the fact he got five almost 50 game win streaks in a single motnth these past 60 days? with performance ratings soaring over even hans neimans latest tournament? They look like they are copping out which is as good as admitting he cheated man. Its to the point now that every single person on social media defending this, i assume is a child using multiple accounts on the website themselves at the very least...
@@cooloutac if every single person is criticizing, Kramnik, we could all be bots, or we could all be slightly more educated than either him or you. Why don’t you take an Intro to Statistics class at your local community college? It’s super interesting stuff.
Sad to see how you have lost it. 😥 Take a break from the Internet for some time.. It's super sad with the various treaths agaisnt you.. But the entire.. Laywer and court business.. Afraid you will júst end up losing face again. You cant sue like a "Karen" people you dont agreee with áll over the world.. You will júst end up ás a joke.
You're talking about a guy who built his career by smurfing for entertainment. The defenss from the kids that follow him is that he was just farming lower rated players for stats. Hardly honorable. This is a guy who wants you to believe these things made him a better chess player in recent years. Same guy who had a meltdown once when Magnus insisted he have an arbiter in his room for a meltwater tournament. He got smashed in it whined and complained and vowed never to enter another one. He was as toxic as Hans Neiman as a kid, so much that is he pretty much just as disliked by his peers. Dominates everyone online tournament and as Kramnik has pointed out is constantly getting performance ratings that just crush even Hans Neimans latest tournament, but noone even mentions it and yet for some reason never wins any major blitz otb tournaments and his excuse is to blame it on Magnus? Come on man... All this speaks to his character and its not good. I think what prompted this all is when Hikaru put on headphones in the latest SCC immediately after blundering to Fabi, and because Kramnik has already bought up the issue of doing so, it shocked the adult chess world.
I wouldn't be so sure. Hikaru is a world class grandmaster. All he'd have to do is play his normal game and have the engine running alongside to get the evaluations, and the occasional blunder check.
Just stop the BS ....you were a legend, maintain your dignity. You cant even accept that you are accusing of cheating than why would you want any investigation. Without accusations there can't be an investigation..if you want it accuse properly and openly.
What's wrong with accusing Hikaru of cheating when Hikaru IS a cheater? I have a master's degree in applied maths major in mathematical finance. I know with 99.9% certainty that Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates.
@@nicbentulan then make a proper accusation dont BS like 'this is not an accusation but...' he is too scared to properly accuse him of cheating because he knows he will be in the wrong at the end of all this. And cheated levon in 2016 candidates!!😂😂😂 laughable.
@@nicbentulan what video evidence....do you have a video of hikaru cheating? And cheating against levon accusation is still and will always be laughable.
@@mohammedshoaib1774 1 Yes. There are multiple videos of when Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 Candidates. They were even interviewed about it. 2 I suppose next you're going to deny these true factual statements: Garry cheated Judit. Garry cheated Vishy. Garry cheated Alexei Shirov. Magnus cheated Anish. Magnus cheated Sergey. Magnus cheated Alireza. Magnus cheated Wesley Magnus cheated Danya TWICE. Magnus cheated Nepo. Magnus cheated Alexandra Kosteniuk. Bobby cheated no one. Hans cheated no one (as an adult). Wesley cheated no one. 3 Try nDWpjxXYLZ4
Your probabilities are quite meaningless. The probability of someone going WLWLWLWL against Magnus Carlsen is the exact same as them scoring LLLLWWWW. Highly unlikely results occur fairly often if you just take a large enough sample of players, events and games. Therefore even if the likelihood of a specific result occurring without cheating was 1%, this probability in no way reflects the likelihood of cheating. Looking for outlier performances can be a good starting point but nothing more than that because unless a certain chain of events is effectively impossible, it will eventually to someone eventually.
@nicbentulan ...well...I really don't know...but, I have been played at least 1 000 000 000 blitz games since 1979...it's impossible to play (blitz) chess without blunders... ...Hikaru was born in 1987...I have been played (and won) my first game against an international grandmaster in 1984...I know what I'm talking about...
@@tatyanatrubadur5837 it is. The result of a high elo performance. I think you misunderstood. A high elo performance has nothing to do with cheating. That would be calling GM Magnus or Ding a cheat.
We need more of this, like "Free rocket science lesson for NASA from Vladimir Kramnik"
"Free football lesson for Messi from Vladimir Kramnik"
"Free Hip-Hop lesson for Eminem from Vladimir Kramnik"
so much potential
lol!
He placed 3rd as recently as 2019 world blitz championship, right behind Nakamura. I think he has better chess intuition than you.
@@errrrythmiaHis chess intuition doesn't make him immune to paranoia and doesn't give him a better understanding of statistics.
@@errrrythmianobody gives a fuck about his “chess intuition”. He is a high school drop out and this is about a scientific field (statistics/data science) where there are subject matter experts, of which he is not one.
@@Rohanifed He got World Champion in chess without school. School means absolutely nothing. You can learn to play guitar with a teacher and get good grades, but still stay forever worse than someone who never had a teacher.
Words do not help: Keeping saying that is not an accusation does not make your statements less accusing. Public resonance caused by a free interpretation of cherry picked data expressed in vague statements by an ignorant person (in his own words), perceived as an accusation by the chess community, can have negative impact on Hikaru’s public image and chess career. So it does not differ from a “direct” accusation in any way.
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do you deny THE FACT that hikaru cheated levon in the 2016 candidates?
He clearly said, "My next post will knock him out". Lol. How else can this be perceived? Any court throws out the suit and make him pay all the court costs.
This.
Definitely. Also, Kramnik is liable for counter lawsuit, with his manipulation of forum comments while also attempting legal action. Since he is deleting comments & deleting his responses to comments, while simultaneously threatening to sue Chesscom, he's able to frabricate evidence or the lack of it. Kramnik must apologize to Chesscom & Hikaru, & never bring this issue up again.
Could you make a video showing the statistical analysis that you and your mathematician friends made and that lead you to consider the events suspicious?
Nakamura being rated 400 points higher in blitz than him.
@@errrrythmiamore like 200 points higher. 😂 you lie too much
@@Morphysince94
Yeah. Also Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates.
@@errrrythmia do you deny THE FACT that hikaru cheated levon in the 2016 candidates?
One never has to use the word "accusation," to make an accusation. And, merely denying you made an accusation does not erase your accusation.
Hey again annikaburris!
What's wrong if Vlad accuses Hikaru of cheating when it's a fact that Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates?
@ZKGamer
Same response to your other comment. Lol. Thanks for asking repeatedly.
no way he actually said all three of them are cheaters hahaha gotta be trolling, that or just stupid@ZKGamer
@@cryterion7770
Garry cheated Judit.
Hikaru cheated Levon.
Garry cheated Vishy.
Garry cheated Alexei Shirov.
Magnus cheated Anish.
Magnus cheated Sergey.
Magnus cheated Alireza.
Magnus cheated Wesley
Magnus cheated Danya TWICE.
Magnus cheated Nepo.
Magnus cheated Alexandra Kosteniuk.
Bobby cheated no one.
Hans cheated no one (as an adult).
Wesley cheated no one.
Hans supposedly cheated 100x, but Magnus definitely did as described in kBOrtdiGDrM or VInHv6ZS818
- cbarr81 asked:
Do you ever log onto as an anonymous player, and just crush people for fun?
- Magnus admitted in an AMA:
Once in a while I’ve used some of my friends accounts and won a couple of games… or a lot…
@ZKGamer
Garry cheated Judit.
Hikaru cheated Levon.
Garry cheated Vishy.
Garry cheated Alexei Shirov.
Magnus cheated Anish.
Magnus cheated Sergey.
Magnus cheated Alireza.
Magnus cheated Wesley
Magnus cheated Danya TWICE.
Magnus cheated Nepo.
Magnus cheated Alexandra Kosteniuk.
Bobby cheated no one.
Hans cheated no one (as an adult).
Wesley cheated no one.
Hans supposedly cheated 100x, but Magnus definitely did as described in kBOrtdiGDrM or VInHv6ZS818
- cbarr81 asked:
Do you ever log onto as an anonymous player, and just crush people for fun?
- Magnus admitted in an AMA:
Once in a while I’ve used some of my friends accounts and won a couple of games… or a lot…
Free english lesson. Cherry picking is a standard phrase standing for a practice of selecting only certain pieces of statistics while ignoring the rest to "prove" a point. Thus there is nothing strange that many people use the phrase to describe Kramnik's method.
for Vladimir reference: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_picking
Free logic lesson: 1.Kramnik understands what the term means and uses it to describe, that without examination of abnormal occurrences there is no way to catch cheaters.
2. People who describe Kramnik's method as cherry picking don't understand, that cheaters do not have to cheat all of the time in chess. They can cheat only in some games, or cheat only on some moves. They don't even have to get any information on how to move, just an evaluation. Thus the phrase "cherry picking" does not work here at all.
I understand that it is hard to come to such conclusions, but Kramnik was also the 14th World Champion, and has a fine mind. I'm sure you would have come to the same conclusions if you would have taken a bit of time to think instead of trying to appear clever.
@@waluigi43 How is this knowing evalution/not every move thing even remotely related to the topic here? What Kramnik cherrypicks is the NUMBER OF GAMES used in statistics. Hikaru didn't play 46 games only. Or 55 games.
@@edddo4314 I explain it for you again: You can use cherry picking when talking about climate change. You can say: "in July we had 10 days with only 20 Celsius, it was quite cool, thus there is no climate change". Cherry picking means, that the person only looked at the 10 cool days and ignored the remaining hot 21 days in July. In the case of Nakamura, cherry picking does not work, because it is enough for a person to cheat once to be a cheater. The number of games does not play a role here either, it is the performance and streaks that defy statistics that have to be looked into. Take the time to think for yourself instead of trying to uplift a celebrity.
@@waluigi43you contradict yourself by saying that you only have to cheat once and then proceed to say you have to analyze streaks and performances. that in of itself means you have to analyze multiple games. sure you can analyze everyone for cheating, but making claims about a person should have a basis. LOL ur comment seems biased so maybe you should think for one second 💀 if it turns out hikaru is cheating over a performance than the math would show that. so how about do your research for a sec.
Kramnik still digging, it does start to be really deep now !
digging his own grave.
@@TheHipHopVlog
Why would Vlad be digging anyone's grave considering the FACT that Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates?
what's to dig? everyone knows hikaru cheated levon in the 2016 candidates.
For me as an actual data scientist, this is comedy gold
Define Scientist.
Why? I have a master's degree in applied maths major in mathematical finance and I know 99.9% that Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates
@@nicbentulan trust me bro i would never lie on the internet
For me, as an actual data scientist and programmer, I have found the streaks to be "interesting" to say the very least. Of course one must use the proper formulas for win% based on Elo and not the made-up ones we have seen that are used as "mathematician said" posts.
@@toomanyblocks8448
Which of the ff facts do you deny?
H1 - Hikaru cheated Levon.
G1 - Garry cheated Judit.
G2 - Garry cheated Vishy.
G3 - Garry cheated Daniel Edelman.
G4 - Garry cheated in 1999 MSN game.
G5 - Garry cheated Alexei Shirov.
M1 - Magnus cheated Anish.
M2 - Magnus cheated Sergey.
M3 - Magnus cheated Alireza.
M4 - Magnus cheated Wesley
M5 - Magnus cheated Danya TWICE.
M6 - Magnus cheated Nepo.
M7 - Magnus cheated Alexandra Kosteniuk.
WBH1 - Bobby cheated no one.
WBH2 - Hans cheated no one (as an adult).
WBH3 - Wesley cheated no one.
WBH4 - Hans supposedly cheated 100x, but Magnus definitely did as described in kBOrtdiGDrM or VInHv6ZS818
- cbarr81 asked:
Do you ever log onto as an anonymous player, and just crush people for fun?
- Magnus admitted in an AMA:
Once in a while I’ve used some of my friends accounts and won a couple of games… or a lot…
Source:
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Dear Mr. Kramnik, could you do a video about the allegations that you cheated during the WC match against GM Topalov? I find this very interesting and would like to hear your opinion about the matter. Is it possible that Hikaru and Hans are simply copying you without acknowledging as much? I think the chess world deserves to know.
Allegations were coming from Topalov’s agent. His agent saw that Topalov was losing, decided to help him. Allegations were absurd and most of chess world sided with Kramnik at that time. One of the statements about 50 times going to toilet came from “genius” math. They counted amount of times Kramnik went to bathroom in some minutes (I don’t remember exact number) and multiplied it by the length of the game. Topalov’s agent was his Angel protector, earned him candidates match in 2009. Truly deserved that he never became world champion, even though he was nice person
@@Roman.Imperial.Artisttopalov was world champion, he was defending his title in the match vs kramnik
@ He won it in round Robin of FIDE, not in match. Kramnik was true World champion
Please don't conflate Kramnik's toilet streak with his overall toilet performance.
You seem to think if don't say "Hikaru Nakamura is cheating", you wont be regarded as accusing him of cheating, and that you can sue anyone who claims you are accusing him of cheating. Clearly all your current actions, including all this persistent obsession with showing HIkaru's statistics as anomalous, will be considered as a concealed attempt to state he's cheating. Hope you won't end up getting counter-sued if you go the legal way, or having to pay costly legal fees from all your legal actions when you lose them.
Why should Vlad be sued for stating the fact that Hikaru is a cheater since it's a fact that Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates?
@@nicbentulan Idiotic-statement of the week, congratulations!
@@Macceee
I didn't state. I asked. Lol. But I assume you mean the statement is 'Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates.'
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Usually when criticising a factual statement, one points out how the statement is either false or has a false assumption. What's false or falsely assumed about 'Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates '?
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I suppose next you'll deny Magnus cheated Alireza, Wesley So, Anish, Danya TWICE, Sergey, Nepo & Alexandra Kosteniuk and Garry cheated Alexei Shirov, Vishy, Judit & MSN?
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What's to stop you from denying the earth is round and revolves around the sun?
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Also would Wesley So's uncle Bobby Fischer disagree with anything I said?
@ZKGamer
Good question. Even if Hikaru isn't an online engine cheater, Hikaru is still an OTB bullying cheater.
And I say is not was. Hans was a cheater because Hans apologised publicly. Magnus, Garry & Hikaru are cheaters because they didn't apologise publicly.
So if Vlad says 'Hikaru is a cheater, then that statement is factual regardless of the online results.
To be honest, I'm semi-trolling.
The trolling part is like if team Magnus/Garry/Hikaru (allies of evil) says 'Hans cheated online hence Hans cheated OTB', then why can't team Hans/Bobby/Wesley (axis of evil) say 'Hikaru cheated OTB hence Hikaru cheated online'?
The non-trolling part is that I think bullying cheating is as big a problem as engine cheating. Magnus Garry & Hikaru don't cheat the way Hans Parham Sebastien Pranav et al do/did. Magnus Garry & Hikaru are bullying cheaters not engine cheaters.
Anyway
Would Wesley So's uncle Bobby Fischer disagree with anything I said?
@ZKGamer
Lol it was on camera. I don't need to show you statistics when you can see it with your own eyes. I dare you to point out and explain to me even a single statement I made that is either a factually incorrect statement or is a theory or an opinion that Wesley So's uncle Bobby Fischer would disagree with.
Wesley, Bobby & Hans never cheated or baselessly accused in chess as adults. Magnus, Garry & Hikaru have done both.
Btw:
This proves 9LX players like Hans, Wesley, Bobby & Nepo are more honest than chess players like Hikaru, Magnus, Garry & Liren.
Liren never played a single 9LX game, online or OTB.
Magnus lost 3x classical 9LX games in a row in the finals of a FIDE world championship. The last time this happened was Vishy Vs Alexei Shirov in 2000 FIDE classical WCC. Oh also Garry cheated Alexei Shirov in the 2000 PCA classical WCC.
Hikaru never won a classical FIDE 9LX game.
Peak Garry would easily lose to Peak Bobby in classical 9LX. I know this because Garry's successor is Magnus while Bobby's successor is h nephew Wesley.
Kramnik is the living, breathing embodiment of the Dunning-Kruger effect in real time
What's so DK effect about the fact that Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates?
@@nicbentulan you're not making the slam dunk you think you are
@@gobbedy
Why are you defending cheaters?
Garry cheated Judit.
Hikaru cheated Levon.
Garry cheated Vishy.
Garry cheated Alexei Shirov.
Magnus cheated Anish.
Magnus cheated Sergey.
Magnus cheated Alireza.
Magnus cheated Wesley
Magnus cheated Danya TWICE.
Magnus cheated Nepo.
Magnus cheated Alexandra Kosteniuk.
Bobby cheated no one.
Hans cheated no one (as an adult).
Wesley cheated no one.
Hans supposedly cheated 100x, but Magnus definitely did as described in kBOrtdiGDrM or VInHv6ZS818
- cbarr81 asked:
Do you ever log onto as an anonymous player, and just crush people for fun?
- Magnus admitted in an AMA:
Once in a while I’ve used some of my friends accounts and won a couple of games… or a lot…
@@nicbentulan i've checked your youtube channel. i wonder if you're mentally ill? (not joking or trying to insult). i mean this in the nicest way possible, i think you should consult a mental professional
@@gobbedy
Q1
I am diagnosed with ADHD-PH and am prescribed ritalin and pristiq. Why are you discriminating against the mentally ill?
Q2
Did I say either anything factually incorrect or an opinion or theory Bobby Fischer who is also mentally ill would disagree w/?
After this "lesson", somewhere in the world, one mathematician sobbed.
I have a master's degree in applied mathematics, major in mathematical finance, and I did not sob. Au contraire I rejoiced. With 99.9% certainty I know Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates. It was on camera. There were interviews.
No ethical mathematician would sob for that traitor Hikaru.
@jabe77
I have a master's degree in applied mathematics, major in mathematical finance, and I did not sob. Au contraire I rejoiced. With 99.9% certainty I know Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates. It was on camera. There were interviews.
No ethical mathematician would sob for that traitor Hikaru.
@@nicbentulanLol, I have master's degree in applied mathematics too (moreover, in discrete mathematics, and i'm also very familiar with data science). Kramnik's arguments are so bad, it was very hard to watch this video without smacking my face off with facepalm. But, please note, I'm not the one who started talking about degrees.
Also, Kramnik didn't say anything about this case in 2016, and that one case has nothing to do with math and this mathematical nonsense that Kramnik spreads. Even if you are right about this case (i doubt it, but doesn't matter), that doesn't make Kramnik's pseudoscientifical arguments about Nakamura right, his position - valid, and his arrogant tone - appropriate, especially, if he is talking about math and data science. And imho that is a lot more ethical position for mathematician - listen arguments (especially mathematical, since that is what a mathematician good at), and don't excuse a person just because you accuse the same person of cheating.
@@СборнаяСолянка-й5в His channel seems to be countless accusations of Magnus being racist.
He's also invented two different factions in the chess world, with the "good guys" including Sergey Karjakin (who publicly expressed support for Russia after the invasion of Ukraine), as well as (randomly) Andrew Tate and Donald Trump.
The "Bad Guys" include Magnus, Ding, Hikaru, Kasparov, Danny Rensch, and for some reason Piers Morgan and George Bush.
He claims that Magnus Carlsen, amongst other things, is a "talentless patzer" and a "racist sexist", as he once violated the touch-move rule whilst playing a Jewish woman.
So, overall, we shouldn't be wasting our time or energy on him.
@@QuarantiningArmadillo
Thanks for being such a fan and for making such a great summary of my channel and my views!
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Did Sergey, Andrew or Donald do anything evil inside chess and as an adult?
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What's your opinion of when piers Morgan cheated on celebrity apprentice?
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What's your opinion of when Bush unjustifiably arrested Fischer?
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Would Wesley So's uncle Bobby Fischer disagree with anything I said?
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Why did Magnus refuse to play Hans but played Parham Pranav & Sébastien Feller?
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Note both Garry & Magnus cheated Jewish women OTB. Garry Magnus & Hikaru cheated OTB against Jews. The 3 of them also baselessly accused Americans of cheating. So inside chess why aren't they worse than Bobby, who never cheated or baselessly accused anyone? Lol.
PS
xcdhgq
Kramnik is prime example that Chess Genius does not necessary mean Genius in general.
Why do you say that given Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates?
This has got nothing to do with a "math lesson". This is simply Valdimir Kramnik impersonating an expert in the field of math and probabilities like a bad actor.
And you have mathematical refutations of course or you just bla bla bla
@@WFDeep Short answers what he misses:
1) randomness (with high enough n tail risk events become more likely)
2) elo difference in the win streak (IM/FM level players so high winning probability)
3) dependent statistics (Bayes theorem if you don’t know this you don’t know statistics), beating a player 8 times in a row isn’t that unlikely due to tilt and figuring them out if you beat them 2/3 times.
4) is it likely Hikaru farms 4/5 IM/FM level players and wins almost every match? Yes quite likely
- MSc, graduated 5 years ago with focus on factor models (econometrics)
@WFDeep just blah blah blah ofcourse. He can't see clearly all he can see is Hikarus crack lol
@StheSharknl ty dude I also know these aspects. But from who has math degree u also bla bla bla isn't u? Only one number of propobality would be enough from u if u checked these aspects, but u just play smart and score points. I believe u have math degree but it is not quite reflected on ur intelligence
@@WFDeep
I have a master's degree in applied maths major in mathematical finance. I know with 99.9% certainty that Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates.
Kramnik’s free lesson: “when you research you need to know what you want to research”
Wow, can’t believe I didn’t even have to pay for that!
Me when I need credentials for my NASA application:
This video was EXTREMELY interesting…
Kramnik vs Math is a battle hard to see. Great chess player tough.
how this for maths?
hikaru cheated levon in the 2016 candidates.
vlad never cheated in candidates or WCC.
Interesting.
Fischer - Larsen 6- 0.... Fischer - Taimanov 6 -0
Explain that!
Maths has nothing to do wit it sometimes.
...but...in the (imaginary) "FIDE Rating list of Optimism" (January 1st 1971)...Bent Larsen & Mark Taimanov were leading players: 1st Larsen...2nd Taimanov...3/4 Spassky & Fischer...
Easy.
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I have a master's degree in applied maths major in mathematical finance. I know with 99.9% certainty that Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates.
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Wesley So, Bobby Fischer & Hans Niemann have NEVER done ANY of the ff evil things in chess as adults.
Magnus Carlsen, Garry Kasparov & Hikaru Nakamura HAVE done EACH of the ff evil things in chess as adults.
Evil :
-Cheating
-Baseless accusations
-Discrimination (eg by cheating or baselessly accusing people mainly of a certain ethnicity or citizenship)
-Treason
Re treason:
- Magnus betrayed fellow Scandinavian-descent Hans by baselessly accusing Hans
- Hikaru betrayed fellow American Hans by baselessly accusing Hans.
- Garry betrayed 2 fellow Jews Judit Polgar & Alexei Shirov by cheating them.
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9LX players are more honest than chess players. God bless America!
Also, Hans & Wesley consider Bobby greatest while Magnus & Hikaru consider Garry greatest. What a coincidence!
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1999Mar25 on Philippine radio :
(Bobby Fischer would've been 2900.)
My rating would be at least 2900, which is a lot higher than Kasparov’s. But in the end, that’s not
important Pablo because the point is, I got my rating honestly. All my games are real. I’ve never pre-arranged a
game. They have nothing on me. That’s why they hate me so damn much - because I’m clean. Kasparov got his fantastic rating by pre-arranging almost all of his games. (...) All of Kasparov’s games with Karpov (...) prearranged. He’s a crook on a gigantic scale. You know, Eugene Torre could have the highest rating in the
world too if he would pre-arrange all his games.
- ( Actually, this further convinces me Bobby would like nephew Wesley & hate Magnus because Wesley = Eugene Torre & Magnus = Garry. As described in XNHWbgAsZnA or 2d427ys5FrY )
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Wesley So on 2018Jun08
Thank you all for your encouragement and support. I am moving into a new area of my chess development working to win the game instead of taking a draw which I can do easily. With that attitude there will be bad days but that is life. Some players think exchanging a piece and then taking a prearranged draw on move 17 is okay but I don't want to be like them. I fought Fabi as hard as I could and I made a simple miscalculation. I am proud of the choice I made to fight. For everyone's benefit let me be clear that I have never taken a prearranged draw, I never will, and I have never played a bad game to help a friend. My bad games are a result of miscalculation under pressure. There are no free gifts in chess on this level (unless you are from certain countries that everyone knows about). You fight or you die. You have all been great in supporting me. Thank you. Moving on to the next fight.
Source:
p1w4Rr-Vd
P.S.
Wesley So on Lex Fridman
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P.P.S.
Interview while imprisoned
p1w4Rr-1Uk
Pablo Mercado: So what is your advice to the Filipino chess players?
Uncle Bobby Fischer: My advice is to give up chess and take up Fischer Random.
- 2004Oct11, 15 years before nephew Wesley So became the inaugural WFRCC in CLASSICAL time controls.
@@ГоранВујадиновић
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- axis of evil = good guys:
wesley so, hans niemann, bobby fischer, sergey karjakin, vladimir kramnik (still! See below), ian nepomniachtchi, alireza firouzja, nodirbek abdusattorov, andrii baryshpolets, vishy anand, jan-krzysztof duda, donald trump, andrew tate
- allies of evil = bad guys:
magnus carlsen, hikaru nakamura, garry kasparov, daniil dubov, veselin topalov, liren ding, aryan tari, vincent keymer, arkady dvorkovich, peter heine nielsen, richárd rapport, george bush, piers morgan
- axis of evil (female) = good girls:
tingjie lei (or paikidze), janelle frayna, dina belenkaya, sara khadem (or carissa yip), robbi jade lew
- allies of evil (female) = bad girls:
wenjun ju, bella khotenashvili, andrea botez, atousa pourkashiyan - nakamura, nemo zhou
More info:
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Re Vlad :
I view Vlad's accusation of Hans similar to Bobby's accusation of Anatoly Karpov & Wesley's wanting Sergey to not be in the 2022 candidates - it's a good guy fighting another good guy. The real bad guy in each respective case is Magnus, Garry & Magnus again. Tsk tsk. It's sad Vlad/Bobby/Wesley didn't realise that Magnus/Garry/Magnus is far more evil than Hans/Anatoly/Hans. Wait, I think Bobby did. Not sure. I think Bobby hated Garry more than Anatoly, but maybe not by much more.
More info:
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Fischer opponents were on tilt
@@tangalexander5561
Who do you side with?
- Axis of Evil
- Allies of Evil
(See above comment for context but briefly)
Axis = Wesley Bobby Hans Vlad Nepo Sergey
Allies = Magnus Garry Hikaru Veselin Liren Daniil
Can't wait for Kramnik to hear about a null hypothesis
how this for H0?
hikaru cheated levon in the 2016 candidates.
vlad never cheated in candidates or WCC.
Still waiting for his deep statistical report. None shown yet but he claims to have one.Drip feeding info And threatening a platform with nothing concrete is bizarre.
ya, I initially gave him the benefit of the doubt -- maybe he's uncovered something? But making insinuations about a specific player without publishing the actual analysis is negligent at best, or cynical and downright slanderous at worst. The problem is that, correct or not, it is an unverifiable claim, and that means the player cannot defend himself against any specific claim.
@@gobbedy
Vlad uncovered that Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates.
Intelligent people who make mistakes just admit they were wrong and move on. Clinging to a narrative that has been disproven is sad and leads to loss of respect over time. A lesson in human psychology for Kramnik
Well said.
U didn't watch video, it is what i see. And didn't read anything about human psychology of course
who are you to respect he is already a world champion so he literally dont' care
I think he know subject 1000 times better than any of you. He is World Champion who won Kasparov.
...well...Hikaru is very good, but 55 out of 55...is too much...had he invented a mouse...?!
A high school dropout turned out to be not just a chess genius, but also a mathematician, statistician and now an expert of the law. Get off your high horse.
Exactly 😂
@@Ruedigerkackgans12
Why high horse given THE FACT that Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates?
It's puzzling to me how often people (of all sorts) say that science/math/statistics prove that what they are saying is correct without providing the actual science/math/statistics. It's an epidemic.
Number of candidates Hikaru cheated:
1 - 2016 Vs Levon
How's that for statistics?
@@nicbentulan That's not statistics, that's your opinion
@@joshuahietala5174
Lol. There's no opinion here. I'm either right or wrong. Everyone saw it happen on camera
@@nicbentulan You are so desperate that you liked your own comment ☠️ well if everyone saw it happen why wasn’t he disqualified, and don’t say because he bribed someone or something like that.
@@joshuahietala5174
It's not a thing you disqualify people for. Don't measure the immorality of an action based on its punishment. George Bush junichiro koizumi John Howard and Tony Blair were never punished for war crimes , but they are still war criminals.
"Free math lesson" from a guy without higher education... Interesting.
isn't nakamura the same stop fangirling
Nakamura is not issuing videos claiming to be maths lessons
Your education obviously higher in math if you can judge him, I suppose
@@boogieman6529 I’m a master in science thought (MSc), Kramnik doesn’t know statistics, at all. Not understanding randomness, elo difference (= high winning %), selection bias and not understanding basic Bayes (dependent probabilities) are some of his short comings. Basically he hangs everything in 3 moves for anybody who has had at least a second year undergraduate statistics class this is clear as day. He doesn’t even understand highschool statistics to be honest😂
@StheSharknl ...but, ELO ratings didn't work too good in 1970...now it's just a joke...(with common sense...)
We need a lesson in allowing self expression from Kramnik, and an explanation of why he deletes dissenting opinions from his social media platforms.
What were the opinions? Maybe they denied that Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates?
Many of them were actual statisticians and mathematicians that tried to explain to Kramnik how probability works.@@nicbentulan
@@kristianfagerstrom7011
do you deny THE FACT that hikaru cheated levon in the 2016 candidates?
Vlad is a South Park character and i love it.
You see guys..playing chess requires no intelligence, here is a prime example
Why example given Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates?
Man, you could have went out with respect. Quietly and at your own pace. Rather than accept that time destroys all you accuse others for beating you like a child.
Why do you deny the fact that Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates?
Besides, the worst and most direspectful thing you're doing is pretending that probability is "easy to understand". You're doing it for your own sake, but it's the most telling thing that you're just ready to say anything to defend your weak position. Every mathematician realizes that probability is the most counterintuitive discipline of mathematics. It's the first thing you usually hear about when you begin studying it.
I hope someone knows a good chiropractor, because the amount of reaching Kramnik is doing must be murder on his back.
What's 'reaching' about the fact that Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates?
You disprove the statistics without showing statistics?
My main problem with GM Kramnik is his procrastination by drip-feeding his data/analysis.
If you are going to accuse someone of cheating in a roundabout manner, you should present all your data in one post.
Spit it out & stop grandstanding - it's frankly wearing thin & making a mockery of yourself & the fight against cheating in chess.
No sane judge would even acknowledge that you have a case, based on publications referring to your demand for an investigation of nakamura, and your (false) claims that his performances are highly unlikely based on a lack of understanding of statistics, as an accusation of cheating.
Because in defamation you have to claim malice, and everybody and their dog thought you accused him, whether directly or indirectly. And that is just one of a plethora of insurmountable legal hurdles with this 'case' you this k you have. You have absolutely no hope in hell legally. Will just waste everyone's time and resources.
But please go ahead with it, sue the sh't out of everyone and end up paying their attorney fees. You are irredeemably stubborn with this nonsense so you have to learn the hard way I guess
Only Kramnik, his "lawyer" and Kamsky believes that it wasn't an accusation. Everybody else can clearly read between the lines.
@@Macceee He denies that it's an accusation because it means if he's wrong he would have to apologize. So he wants to play on house money, spread as much innuendo and make as many insinuations as he wants without facing consequences. All while acting like he is more qualified to talk about the statistics he brought up than actual mathematicians because he's been told more than once by now, that the entire basis for his public campaign, his interpretation of the statistics, is just false. Nakamura's results are not surprising and he's expected to perform this way from time to time considering the number of games he plays, the level of opposition etc etc.
I mean what do you do with someone who seemingly is so stubborn that he thinks he is more knowledgeable about statistics than actual mathematicians. And a person who threatens legal action even though he is the only one out of all parties involved who could reasonably be held liable for some of his conduct the last few weeks.
What you do is you let that person wreck himself. I really really want him to go forward with this nonsense and start suing everyone. But I gotta believe that somewhere deep down he isn't that much of a moron and it's just an empty threat. A threat that any publication will only laugh at. Chess. Com wasn't worried, they didn't retract sh't from their statement. They probably too want vlad to go ahead and hit the wall with his bullsh't
@@Macceee
Why don't Gata & Vlad jointly accuse Hikaru of cheating Levon in the 2016 candidates given it's a fact?
@@Ruedigerkackgans12Couldn't have said it better myself! All 100%.spot on.
@@nicbentulan What has "j'adoube " rule got to do with the issue of online engine-cheating?
With all respect mr. Kramnik,
1) where are the statistics??
2) if there are 'so many other players' with 'interesting' steaks, why single out hikaru publically but not the others?
3) it is very surprising that one so obsessed with calling out the logic and basic intelligence of others would be miffed that his veiled statements would be interpreted as an accusation.
4) what is your response to Fabi regarding farming, and time control differences in rapid online blitz? Your blog post in response does not address these points (or illustrates a failure to grasp the points)
Are you denying that Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates?
@@nicbentulan huh? Failing to understand the context of the response in light of the post.
Also, I assume you mean the game that levon won after hikaru touched the king and was forced to move it? Lol no I don't consider hikaru's claim of j'adoube in that moment to be cheating. Gamesmanship at worst, and ultimately irrelevant because of the immediate ruling of the arbiter in levon's favor.
Why the obsession with responding to every post with this same irrelevant statement? I do no follow the logic of, hikaru tried to cheat levon (unsuccessfully), therefore hikaru is a cheater, therefore kramnik must be on to something with his (non-) "accusations"?
@@alphonsis6183
Breaking the rules is the same as cheating.
Q1
Which of the ff do you deny?
H1 - Hikaru cheated Levon.
G1 - Garry cheated Judit.
G2 - Garry cheated Vishy.
G3 - Garry cheated Daniel Edelman.
G4 - Garry cheated in 1999 MSN game.
G5 - Garry cheated Alexei Shirov.
M1 - Magnus cheated Anish.
M2 - Magnus cheated Sergey.
M3 - Magnus cheated Alireza.
M4 - Magnus cheated Wesley
M5 - Magnus cheated Danya TWICE.
M6 - Magnus cheated Nepo.
M7 - Magnus cheated Alexandra Kosteniuk.
WBH1 - Bobby cheated no one.
WBH2 - Hans cheated no one (as an adult).
WBH3 - Wesley cheated no one.
WBH4 - Hans supposedly cheated 100x, but Magnus definitely did as described in kBOrtdiGDrM or VInHv6ZS818
- cbarr81 asked:
Do you ever log onto as an anonymous player, and just crush people for fun?
- Magnus admitted in an AMA:
Once in a while I’ve used some of my friends accounts and won a couple of games… or a lot…
Q2
How come people can say Hans cheated OTB because Hans cheated online but people can't say Hikaru cheated online because Hikaru cheated OTB?
@@nicbentulan lol yes you can copy/paste I see. Tho you're clearly trolling, I play anyway for a moment.
Is j'adoube not a thing otb? Ie in order for the touch rule to apply the piece must have been touched with the intention of moving it? In which case, we would need to be inside hikarus head at that moment to know for sure one way or the other? It is also relevant that hikaru lost the game.
Even if the claim of un-intention was disingenuous, imo this is not in same universe as cheating using an engine. Which in the case of Hans, was both proven and admitted to. The differences between the two situations are immense. All forms of "cheating" are not the same. To claim otherwise would be to equate the crime of first degree murder with manslaughter or negligent homicide.
@@alphonsis6183
I'm semi-trolling hehe. Thanks for playing along. My true opinion is as ff:
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1 - Hikaru cheated Levon Aronian in 2016 candidates.
2
Vlad Kramnik is right but for the wrong reasons. Hikaru Nakamura is a bullying cheater not an engine cheater.
I'm glad Vlad's accusing Hikaru, but I don't necessarily agree with Vlad's reasons for accusing Hikaru.
3
Similar to Bobby Fischer Vs Garry Kasparov case. Bobby said Garry cheated by pre-arrangement. Idk but Garry did cheat Vishy Anand, Judit Polgar & Alexei Shirov. That was bullying cheating, not engine cheating and not pre-arrangement.
Bobby afaik didn't acknowledge that Garry cheated Vishy, Judit & Alexei but instead accuse Garry of essentially everything else.
I'm glad Bobby hated Garry, but I don't necessarily agree with Bobby's reasons for hating Garry.
4
Hikaru & Garry are like Magnus Carlsen - bullying cheaters, not engine cheaters.
5
Magnus engine cheated
- Danya Naroditsky 2x on lichess (2020, 2021)
but bullying cheated
- Alireza Firouzja (2019 blitz wcc),
- Wesley So (2022 rapid not classical WFRCC - try to define 'slow rapid'),
- Anish Giri (2023 Superbet Blitz),
- Hans Niemann (2022 CGC),
- Ian Nepomniachtchi (2021 classical WCC),
- Sergey Karjakin (2022 candidates),
- Alexandra Kosteniuk (2009 blitz WCC, a whole decade before Alireza)
6
Of course all this could be like Vlad is being like Batman in The Dark Knight (2008) or Lelouch in Code Geass like pretending to be the bad guy. This might explain why
- Nepo made that post quoting The Dark Knight
- Vlad accused both Hans & Hikaru who are on opposite sides of axis of evil vs allies of evil.
- axis of evil = good guys:
wesley so, hans niemann, bobby fischer, sergey karjakin, ian nepomniachtchi, alireza firouzja, nodirbek abdusattorov, jan-krzysztof duda, donald trump, andrew tate
- allies of evil = bad guys:
magnus carlsen, hikaru nakamura, garry kasparov, daniil dubov, liren ding, aryan tari, vincent keymer, richárd rapport, george bush, piers morgan
More info:
ARNSi0cPu60
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For me, actions can be legally unequal but morally equal. Like George Bush war crimes in Iraq is part of the allies of evil while the analogue is axis of evil regular crimes. I think this is what Jesus was saying about how Pharisees are worse than prostitutes & tax collectors. Also Nassim Nicholas Taleb in saying some academics are worse than prostitutes etc. (Lots of comparisons to prostitutes. Lol.) Also Bobby with inventing 'allies of evil' as a counter to bush's 'axis of evil' like Bobby doesn't deny that Iran, Iraq North Korea are evil - Bobby just says that US, UK, Japan & Australia are evil too. So for me even if Hans intentionally cheated online, I find it as morally evil as when Hikaru cheated Levon OTB, Magnus cheated so and so OTB, Garry cheated so and so OTB, even if legally they are not the same level of evil.
Anyway
Q1 - come on defining cheating as breaking the rules whether intentionally or negligently (negligence afaik means 'dishonest mistake' like an honest mistake wouldn't be penalised eg when Kobe Bryant died), Hikaru Magnus & Garry really did cheat those people right (ok fine except possibly for Hans in 2022 CGC, Wesley in 2022 WFRCC & Sergey in 2022 Candidates - that's mostly speculation) ?
Q2 - but anyway alphonsis6183 - who do you side with: the axis of evil? Or thee allies of evil? (To clarify, I'm going back to talking about chess. Lol.)
Well anyway merry Christmas happy new year and happy holidays! Thanks again for playing along with my semi-trolling.
The problem is Kramnik never considered to look at the times that Hikaru loses twice in a row. With his own calculations, if Hikaru has 95% chance to beat someone and a 45 game winstreaks is suspicious you should also look at the times he loses 2 times in a row, when he should be winning 95% of the games.
In fact 0.95^45 = 0.099 is roughly 10%(edited from 1% to 10% cause I made a rounding error), then he loses to that person 2 times in a row which is 0.05^2 = 0.0025 or 0.25% so his chances of winning 45 games in a row against someone like that is higher than losing twice and if you look at his match history, he has many streaks of like 30-40 games or something and then loses once or twice. If you calculate the whole scenario it actually comes out to Hikaru underperforming, but you just see 45 game winstreak and a 2 game losing streak doesn't look that shocking, which in reality it actually really is. Henceforth it makes no sense to cherry pick his win streaks and disregarding whenever he loses games completely. Unfortunately you are lacking knowledge in data science and just for your information, the math I did here is also not the proper way to calculate these scenarios, I just wanted to use your own logic to show you that your own logic contradicts itself and it just doesn't work the way you want to... cherry picking wins would make anyone seem suspicious. I am a physics student btw so nothing special but I'd say I know a bit more about maths than you.
You say that 0.099 is roughly 1% when it is roughly 10%. 0.099 * 100 = 9.9. This doesn't change anything about your conclusion, however you should be more careful with your superior math abilities.
@@pargd6236 It's just that in my head I made a rounding error turned 0.099 into 0.01 instead of 0.1 but yeah conclusion stays the same. I just came home from a 4 hour chess game, got some food and typed that comment cut me some slack :D at least I can accept when I made a calculation error as opposed to mr ex world champ trying to teach university math professors overhere
lmao 🤣
0.95^45=0.099 doesn't hold as it doesn't include factor like tilt
@@tangalexander5561 You should reread the whole comment
Kramnik’s SHerry picking the whole video, ye?
The least likely explanation for going to the bathroom over 100 times in 4 world chess championship games is that the player in question is clean. I will be posting something to knock this player out soon. I am not accusing this player.
Kramnik, you're turning into a great comedian, keep amuse us!
Watching this on a saturday afteenoon, cause I have no plans... God, I really need friends
Edit: why is everybody using the same words when speaking the same language?! 😮
Kramnik shadow-boxing with a false reality.
What is false about the fact that Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates?
He is really crazy...
If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging
didn't he call nakamura streak 'interesting'? Why mention that streak with what implication, if not for cheating? Happy to get an answer
Maybe it's interesting because Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates.
Also
Garry cheated Judit.
Garry cheated Vishy.
Garry cheated Alexei Shirov.
Magnus cheated Anish.
Magnus cheated Sergey.
Magnus cheated Alireza.
Magnus cheated Wesley
Magnus cheated Danya TWICE.
Magnus cheated Nepo.
Magnus cheated Alexandra Kosteniuk.
Bobby cheated no one.
Hans cheated no one (as an adult).
Wesley cheated no one.
Hans supposedly cheated 100x, but Magnus definitely did as described in kBOrtdiGDrM or VInHv6ZS818
- cbarr81 asked:
Do you ever log onto as an anonymous player, and just crush people for fun?
- Magnus admitted in an AMA:
Once in a while I’ve used some of my friends accounts and won a couple of games… or a lot…
This video is slightly incoherent, but he did mention some hypothesis in a previous interviews and tweets.
1) Some players have higher "accuracy" in the last 4 games of Titles Tuesday, compared to the first 7 games.
2) Some young players have higher accuracy online than when they had when they played live in Samarkand.
3) I don't think that Kramnik fully believes that farming is possible, and that explains his comments on winning streaks.
4) The oponents of Magnus and Hikaru have higher lower accuracy than the opponents of Kramnik in Titled Tuesday (tweet jan 3)
I don't agree with all of these points, but I would love to see more blog posts with data analysis on cheating in chess.
do you deny THE FACT that hikaru cheated levon in the 2016 candidates?
Agree with Vladimir Kramnik
Yes. I don't see how all these new fans don't know that Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 Candidates. God bless you.
@@nicbentulan What has "j'adoube " rule got to do with the issue of online engine-cheating, m0r0n"? You're even more crazy than the stubborn russian.
you want a proof that players plays fair, thing it, it should be other way around... you should prove that someone is not acting fair. So far, you didn't at all, even if you think so. And as many other have mentioned, you probably need to read a bit about statistics .
Hikaru should prove that Hikaru didn't cheat Levon in the 2016 candidates since the arbiter agreed with Levon.
After you're convicted, you're guilty until proven innocent.
Bro 100% accused Nakamura.
Hikaru 100% cheated Levon.
(In the 2016 candidates.)
This is getting more embarrassing by the day for Kramnik.
"Embarrassing" is three-days ago news! Now we need a stronger word.
This man is even questioning why everybody is using "cherry picking"? LoL what a joke!
Deluded egomaniac
No, Hikaru is not cheating.
But yes, online cheating is a very big problem. Now what?
It seems to me that there is too much ego and too much money in online chess and it shouldn't be taken so seriously.
Too much money and shouldn't be taken so seriously? Where is the logic dude?
for Hikaru it is enough to just see a light bulb/thermometer once every few games when the position is won.
The only way to find out is to drug the samurai and find out the truth under terrible torture.
@@WFDeep
It's online gaming and not real chess. Real chess is played with physical pieces and some time to think.
@@SenatorBluto so it is the reason why it shouldn't be taken so seriously? Seriously?
Maybe Hikaru ISN'T cheating, but Hikaru DID cheat Levon in the 2016 candidates.
Even if you did not directly accuse Hikaru, you did place a huge amount of attention on trying to get the world to investigate his streaks and games. This act is damaging to his reputation and not to mention, yours. This is in fact, a legal argument to say you did accuse Hikaru. Whether or not you directly have done so is completely irrelevant. No jury in the United States will believe what you did was right.
I think Hikaru smurfing for entertainment and farming lower rated players for stats has not only already damaged his own reputation, but also the reputation of online chess in general.
@@cooloutac farming has been a reality of online gaming for decades now. Chess has got to keep up with the times. The only ones who don't understand or like it are those who haven't spent a decent amount of time gaming in general, typically those older than 45/50 +
@@patrickpet7905 Keep up with the times? Thats your excuse? Everyone cheats so I might as well too? Guess we know what you do on the website buddy.... just wow. And I have to tell you, everybody has always cheated in online gaming, but this is the first community and corrupt site to openly admit it in public and exclaim there is nothing wrong with. The most popular game of all time LoL, coined the term smurfing, because their core community in the beginning took that game to cable tv before it got all cheated out. But I'm stunned that you have the picture of an adult in your photo. IS this really why chess has been unpopular in western society for 100s of years? Is this really what most chess players are like? Fischer has always been right? Its to the point now I'm embarrassed to even tell anyone i'm a fan of chess. just wow... I just can't believe you are 45, you have to be a child. There is no way thats your excuse. I'm stunned.
I saw a similar quote a year ago, and it was something close to the following: "Even if you did not directly accuse Hans, you did place a huge amount of attention on trying to get the world to investigate his games. This act is damaging to his reputation and not to mention, yours."
Hikaru 2022 comments are very different from Hikaru 2023 comments.
@@patrickpet7905 BTW I've been advocating for fair play and competitive matches in online gaming for almost 30 years. But yes for someone like Kramnik this is an absolute culture shock. Its basically evil bud, you are condoning evil and this is why e-sports have never been popular and will never have valid career paths for anyone. Don't you understand that? This website exploiting the anonymity that has plagued online games is pure corruption.
22:20 you said "he's having an incredible streak" how do YOU still not understand that it's not about streaks but the overall performance? really disappointing.
You're Kramnik. You optimized your entire life around becoming world champion in classical. Then, you optimized having the highest Elo second and the most money third. (Or perhaps you optimized these three differently, depending on the type of person you are.) People who stream themselves playing chess all day are optimizing creating situations that bring the viewers. Events that make people click their UA-cam videos. Imagine if your only concern was to achieve wins on chessc against opponents of a certain rating and nothing more. You don't pick opponents that will challenge you, because the viewers don't like to see their hero lose 50% of their matches. You play no increment as it's easier to win lost positions, especially if you're quick like Hikaru is + you create interesting complications that burn clock time like he does. Getting a winning streak means a cool video with lots of clicks. You might do many different things with a mindset like this that you aren't considering, because this type of stuff isn't your current goal and has never been your goal. Perhaps, Hikaru tries to play people from timezones that are late since tired people are easier to beat. Perhaps, he does preparation against no name players specifically in blitz, because he knows he encounters them a lot. Off stream, maybe he's going over the openings of all sorts of random people that a "pure" chess player would have no interest in playing and beating repeatedly since they are not in the top 20 worldwide. Maybe, Hikaru doesn't do a rematch to someone who drew him, beat him, or to someone who seems to be playing drawish chess rather than fighting, risky chess. So he's intentionally picking weaker players that are in the mood to lose (with a small chance to win) rather than in the mood to tell other people that they drew Hikaru.
I believe your #1 error in your argument is the assumption that Elo perfectly predicts the outcome of matches. In reality, if you pick any two chess players with their particular current mood, their play styles, their opening repertoire, the tricks in blitz they see/do not see, their gaps in chess knowledge, etc. and have them play each other, the results might deviate from what their Elo difference would predict by a large margin. I'm sure you know well that Shirov never beat Kasparov in a match. Doesn't knowing something like that tell you that Elo isn't a perfect model, and the actual results of a pair of specific players going at it for 1,000 games might differ than predicted? Elo is there to approximate something, not to tell a person exactly how the future will play out. There are other variables too like a player could be drunk, playing worse than their Elo would predict. Maybe, an opponent is having a bad day for a million possible reasons like drama in their personal life, having had a bad night of sleep, or anything else. Perhaps, when Hikaru is feeling off, he plays people even lower than normal, taking precautions not to put up a bad show for his fans. A person might play nonserious openings just for the fun of it, but Hikaru knows exactly how to win against it. Or maybe Hikaru knows an offbeat line that he correctly predicts this and that player will falter to with high probability. Perhaps, Hikaru has an internal model for how good each player is at blitz, and he plays it like the stock market. He plays when a person is overrated and does not play when a player is underrated. The list of real variables someone like Hikaru might be observing and optimizing around to farm players is vast. It's an actual business, he has a good mind, and he has undoubtedly invested a good deal of time into how to farm efficiently so that his viewers keep coming back.
Put yourself in Hikaru's shoes and try for a second to consider what you would do to farm. I'm sure you could do it too if that were a concern of yours. (Although blitz is a young man's game, so you likely can't match how well Hikaru or Alireza does it. You still could improve the number and size of your own streaks.) It's just never been on your radar, because you find it to be a waste of time. While you see it as a waste of time, he sees it as a way to earn money as a job.
I caught wind of all of this drama recently and watched your videos, read your blog posts, watched a few chess content creator videos about it, etc. I think people took your original concern that maybe a proper statistical analysis can prove some cheating in TT. The issues really started when you assumed Elo is perfect to predict matches between any pair of players, using it to calculate stuff and then set your sights on Hikaru with that assumption. Does classical Elo predict well? Probably, because everyone showing up to tournaments have prepared to the max and are there with their game face to win. It probably predicts pretty well who will win a classical chess tournament for that reason. Now, casual blitz that has so many different variables like I discussed up above? You're treating chessc Elo with as much respect as you treat FIDE classical Elo. For so many reasons, a top 5 Blitz player in the entire world can farm people quite well if they put their minds to it, doing stuff you just haven't ever thought of or considered as you've never had as a goal to get as many streaks as possible. That's basically his job, so he has optimized for it. He likes to win a bunch against people with a big enough chessc Elo that his crowd thinks, "Wow, this is amazing." That's it. If you put yourself in his shoes, I think you will start to understand why his feats are quite possible when a person of his talent that has worked as much as he has puts his mind to it.
PS
I hear you don't premove when you play blitz. This is an essential skill as you burn a lot of valuable time not doing that. Hikaru, Magnus, Naroditsky, etc. all premove. If you apply your mind to the theory of premoving, you might also discover some new techniques that matter only in chessc blitz matches that will boost your performance. You've got to look at all the variables and optimize against them.
Also, cheating in online games has been a thing ever since there was an online game and people playing it. Everyone wants the cheaters to be caught, but since it's a game of cat and mouse, it's an impossible goal. You have to accept this if you are going to play games online. Even in your videos, you detail how easy it is for a real chess player to cheat in a way difficult to detect. They're not just doing top Stockfish moves at depth 28 every single move, and as they are a chess player, they can choose not to play an engine line if it looks weird. It's an unsolvable problem. Every company that deals in providing an online game tries to minimize discussion of how many people are cheating. They just give it their best, and they might even do a little PR thing here and there saying fabricated stuff about the percent of cheaters and whatnot. It's a business after all, and they make the most money when people choose to play. A game being overran by cheaters is a reason many would not play. It is what it is. I think focus on cheating by titled players in money tournaments is an honorable discussion, but I wouldn't push for chessc to be honest about how many people cheat overall. It's not a realistic thing for them to discuss in an honest fashion. That's just the way it works. Part of the efficiency of how their systems work is simply the illusion that their system works. A titled player who would cheat might not just out of fear of getting caught. That's likely the most effective impact of their system to be honest. And the parts of their system that do actually catch people, it must stay secret. I was surprised they even published a report for Hans. They can't publish 100-page reports about 10 players a month or something. It would just show how rackety their system is and how it doesn't work as well as people would like. Their best defense against cheating is 1.) active detection with camera requirements and stuff like that and 2.) People fearing their magical system detecting them.
I think your suspicion about Hikaru is misguided though. Perhaps, your suspicion about others is as well, because Elo isn't a perfect model. There are many variables to consider when one particular person plays another particular person in a game of online blitz. As a simple example, an OK player might play a bit better against a legendary player simply because they have studied their blitz games while the better player hasn't studied the other person's games. Very many variables to consider. I think chessc having camera requirements likely eliminates almost all titled players cheating in tournaments. The statistics you're bringing up are devoid of all the tiny details that statistics ignore that are important in a situation like this e.g. worse players studying the games of better players but the reverse not happening.
Kramnik is a deluded egomaniac
Bro, you have no idea about math and data analysis. Your elo in math is 500. The section from 8:23 to 12:42 proves why education is important. Stay in school, guys
Always happy to watch a free lesson from Kramnik!
Greek philosophers used to call this "Amathia".
you got to calculate 2 moves ahead
With every video you are digging your hole deeper. 😂
27:00 in terms of transperancy I think we completely understand your point I mean why are they hiding all these case of top players it should be transparent especially whk have cheated in a tournament who its unfair to their peers and to us spectator specially
I don’t accuse anyone. I’m just saying that it’s strange that you play so well and you have so many wins in a row, a heart earlier that people had asked if you were cheating but I don’t accuse you.
Lol 😂
do you deny THE FACT that hikaru cheated levon in the 2016 candidates?
Please Mr Kramnik: Show your numbers, write a paper or shut up. You are make insinuations, you share the burden of proof.
Could you please pay a course of lessons of English language for Vladimir Kramnik?
Kramnik is a legend one of the greatest players of the modern era. I support him always. Thank you sir, for your videos.
It looks like coordinated prepared attack on Nakamura
Me, as a concrete person, i feel really offended.
I question if this guy even knows how the knight moves...
Oh! it's gonna be such a delight to see his "legal case"... I'm just waiting for this man to fugg up, hope that trial goes live so we can all watch and laugh together.
Also... i'm not talking about hikaru, that's a lie. But lets make sure the results show that he cheated... oh sory sorry, he or she,,,
Edit: Holy cow!, all this nonsense gave me a real headache... someone give this man his pills ....
I'll give you a free math lesson too. Given how you had 80+ games that you were unbeaten in, using the SAME way you calculated, it's logical to assume you cheated too. In fact you cheated more than hikaru calculating it the same way. Its very clear to me that you don't have an "expert" mathematician there and you're posing as an expert cause you think stats is basic maths.
It's genuinely embarrassing.
Kramnik is there anyone you listen to more than yourself?
Владимир Борисович, вы недавно английский изучаете? Говорите очень не уверенно, постоянные паузы каждые 3-4 слова. При всём уважении, но это сильно отталкивает людей, эти постоянные "эээ", "ааа". Если пока не можете обойтись без этих пауз, может стоит заготавливать текст для выступления перед съёмкой видео?
I fully support Kramnik, many people try to make him out to be a madman, an embittered man, but I see him as a courageous person who is trying to lift the curtain on the scourge of chess cheating.
okay Kramnik alt-account.
Literally the only voice of reason among top GMs because he has nothing to lose. He was already world champion and will never be again. He can speak freely, while the rest of the GMs who are active can only post sarcastic and satirical insinuations. We should applaud his attempts to get FIDE to grow some balls and actually secure the game.
Delusional. He has his entire reputation to lose which he is doing. @@woodandwandco
Except that he isn't. He's become completely *obsessed* with proving a meritless and ridiculous accusation against Nakamura that flies in the face of objective facts.
If he wants to attack cheating in chess, go ahead - it's a worthy cause! But don't get involved in some petty vendetta against a fellow GM which lacks any factual basis.
@@michaelscott5653
Why is it ridiculous to state the FACT that Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates?
Free and you get what you pay for.
What a ramble
Halfway thru this and I've never heard someone talk so much and say so little in my life.
Imagine if what Kramnik means actually turns out to be true.. Most likely not, but what IF.. That would he hilarious
Vlad is right that Hikaru is a cheater.
I have a master's degree in applied maths major in mathematical finance. I know with 99.9% certainty that Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates.
@@nicbentulan What has "j'adoube " rule got to do with the issue of online engine-cheating or your made up "master's degree"? You're even more crazy than the stubborn russian.
What's up next Bobby Fisher?
Are you good?
still mad about facing f3 kf2 lol
Will all due respect, your initiative to look out for cheaters is interesting, but your understanding of online chess (especially blitz and bullet with no increment) is deceptively poor and this is stunning to everyone who practices and also watch it on a regular basis. Clearly you've pretty much never followed online blitz and don't get much of it's specificities, you're heading in the wrong way pretty badly right now and this is just just a casual player who does follow online blitz talking, no fan of Hikaru or whatever you'd rather like me to be.
Are you denying that Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates?
I feel his math friend is also his lawyer
Kramnik is liable for counter lawsuit, with his manipulation of forum comments while also attempting legal action. Since he is deleting comments & deleting his responses to comments, while simultaneously threatening to sue Chesscom, he's able to frabricate evidence or the lack of it. Kramnik must apologize to Chesscom & Hikaru, & never bring this issue up again.
Why should Vlad apologise to Hikaru when it's a FACT that Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates?
High school dropout giving lessons to PhD mathematicians and Statsicians
Give me a break
"Симпли мисс", ключевая фраза
Lol wow this shit just keeps going. Everyone give it up for Krazy Kramnik and the Kooks! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I guess you give it up for the smurfing streamers and all the cheats.
@@cooloutac jaja what was it that kramnik said... something about for whom the bell tolls? 🔔🤣
@@afrotonder Topalov was right!
why are you in every single thread attacking Hikaru, you need mental help@@cooloutac
@@cooloutac whats your point? Hikaru smurfing does not take rating points away from his opponents so they arent effected by it. A ton of people actually reach out to him on his channel after they realize it is him and mention they had fun playing against him.
I might suck at chess but this is the only shot I and many others can get at en playing against a top player in the world.
Hikaru, we know you are here, listening carefully, if you need any help just let us know.
Why would anyone help that cheater Hikaru who cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates?
@@nicbentulan What has "j'adoube " rule got to do with the issue of online engine-cheating, m0r0n"? You're even more crazy than the stubborn russian.
I see only one logical deviation. And it’s Kramnik himself
Even if you guys disagree with Volodya, his intention of eliminating online cheating is a noble cause. We can disagree and be kind to all.
But he's not doing that, he's just accusing somone of cheating, while giving 0 statistical evidence atl all. That is not helping to eliminate cheating, he's just obfuscating.
@@Soundy_ He's not accusing anyone, merely pointing out how the website makes exceptions and doesn't treat everyone the same. Which is very important. Anybody elses account should of been immediately flagged and scrutinized.
He is bringing ridicule upon legitimate anti-cheating efforts. I'm not sure that helps.
@@sdaiwepm legitimate anti cheating efforts? You mean how they make exceptions for some people to cheat like HIkaru in his streams? Like how they threw out a 55,000 number for hikaru games over 10 yhears to explain the fact he got five almost 50 game win streaks in a single motnth these past 60 days? with performance ratings soaring over even hans neimans latest tournament? They look like they are copping out which is as good as admitting he cheated man. Its to the point now that every single person on social media defending this, i assume is a child using multiple accounts on the website themselves at the very least...
@@cooloutac if every single person is criticizing, Kramnik, we could all be bots, or we could all be slightly more educated than either him or you. Why don’t you take an Intro to Statistics class at your local community college? It’s super interesting stuff.
Why you damaging yourself like this? Relax, go to the beach, have a coconut or something.. you are embarrassing yourself so bad. It's sad to see
Sad to see how you have lost it. 😥 Take a break from the Internet for some time.. It's super sad with the various treaths agaisnt you.. But the entire.. Laywer and court business.. Afraid you will júst end up losing face again. You cant sue like a "Karen" people you dont agreee with áll over the world.. You will júst end up ás a joke.
Kramnik cause of eliminating cheating is a good one ..But chances of Hikaru cheating are very Low
You're talking about a guy who built his career by smurfing for entertainment. The defenss from the kids that follow him is that he was just farming lower rated players for stats. Hardly honorable. This is a guy who wants you to believe these things made him a better chess player in recent years. Same guy who had a meltdown once when Magnus insisted he have an arbiter in his room for a meltwater tournament. He got smashed in it whined and complained and vowed never to enter another one. He was as toxic as Hans Neiman as a kid, so much that is he pretty much just as disliked by his peers. Dominates everyone online tournament and as Kramnik has pointed out is constantly getting performance ratings that just crush even Hans Neimans latest tournament, but noone even mentions it and yet for some reason never wins any major blitz otb tournaments and his excuse is to blame it on Magnus? Come on man... All this speaks to his character and its not good. I think what prompted this all is when Hikaru put on headphones in the latest SCC immediately after blundering to Fabi, and because Kramnik has already bought up the issue of doing so, it shocked the adult chess world.
I wouldn't be so sure. Hikaru is a world class grandmaster. All he'd have to do is play his normal game and have the engine running alongside to get the evaluations, and the occasional blunder check.
@@cooloutac this is such a bias and copium towards Kramnik and against Hikaru I just can't lmao
@@golddust1337 explain why you think that. I think you are right. You can't. lol
@@cooloutac yeah man I can't explain anything to someone who is delusional
Great. Dont give up. We are following.
Hikaru has at least 6 million why not counter sue and get some money
Just stop the BS ....you were a legend, maintain your dignity. You cant even accept that you are accusing of cheating than why would you want any investigation. Without accusations there can't be an investigation..if you want it accuse properly and openly.
What's wrong with accusing Hikaru of cheating when Hikaru IS a cheater?
I have a master's degree in applied maths major in mathematical finance. I know with 99.9% certainty that Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates.
@@nicbentulan then make a proper accusation dont BS like 'this is not an accusation but...' he is too scared to properly accuse him of cheating because he knows he will be in the wrong at the end of all this. And cheated levon in 2016 candidates!!😂😂😂 laughable.
@@mohammedshoaib1774
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Why would Vlad be wrong about stating facts that are verified by video evidence?
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What's laughable about attempted theft?
@@nicbentulan what video evidence....do you have a video of hikaru cheating? And cheating against levon accusation is still and will always be laughable.
@@mohammedshoaib1774
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Yes. There are multiple videos of when Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 Candidates. They were even interviewed about it.
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I suppose next you're going to deny these true factual statements:
Garry cheated Judit.
Garry cheated Vishy.
Garry cheated Alexei Shirov.
Magnus cheated Anish.
Magnus cheated Sergey.
Magnus cheated Alireza.
Magnus cheated Wesley
Magnus cheated Danya TWICE.
Magnus cheated Nepo.
Magnus cheated Alexandra Kosteniuk.
Bobby cheated no one.
Hans cheated no one (as an adult).
Wesley cheated no one.
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You are bravely doing what no one else is daring to do: Vladimir, keep up the great work!
And everyone else has a good reason not to do it, just look at the all the blind hate in the comments!
also good piar for Levitov chess Ilya is trilled
Dear Vladimir, this is not what Cherry Picking means.
Not at all.
Best comedy. Thank you!
Your probabilities are quite meaningless. The probability of someone going WLWLWLWL against Magnus Carlsen is the exact same as them scoring LLLLWWWW. Highly unlikely results occur fairly often if you just take a large enough sample of players, events and games. Therefore even if the likelihood of a specific result occurring without cheating was 1%, this probability in no way reflects the likelihood of cheating.
Looking for outlier performances can be a good starting point but nothing more than that because unless a certain chain of events is effectively impossible, it will eventually to someone eventually.
...but...4 in a row...and 55 in a row...not the same thing...?!
@@ГоранВујадиновић
Well Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates. How's that for stats?
@nicbentulan ...well...I really don't know...but, I have been played at least 1 000 000 000 blitz games since 1979...it's impossible to play (blitz) chess without blunders...
...Hikaru was born in 1987...I have been played (and won) my first game against an international grandmaster in 1984...I know what I'm talking about...
@@ГоранВујадиновић
Are you denying Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates?
Yes, definitely not about winning "streaks"
Kramnik is absolutely right about what he's saying
As if a high winning streak isn't a result of a high elo performance over a long time.
@@tatyanatrubadur5837 it is. The result of a high elo performance. I think you misunderstood. A high elo performance has nothing to do with cheating. That would be calling GM Magnus or Ding a cheat.