A loss of oligarchic power, the death of his FIL at Caesars hands, being picked on by the populace. It was an easy conspiracy to get drawn in to I’m sure.
Everyone knows that drama between Atia of Junii and Servilia got so extreme that it led to Caesar dumping her. She then manipulated Brutus into joining the conspiracy.
The play Julius Ceasar was not about Ceasar but about Brutus trying to reconcile his betrayal . When reading Paradise Lost one realizes that all evil is based on some kind of envy .
My name is Brutus and my name means heavy So with a heavy heart I'll guide this dagger into the heart of my enemy My whole life, you were a teacher and friend to me Please know my actions are not motivated only by envy I, too, have a destiny This death will be art The people will speak of this day from near and afar This event will be history, and I'll be great too I don't want what you have, I want to be you - Brutus by The Buttress (BTW this is a song)
I think you are right. Your analysis of the influence of Roman culture on his personal views is spot on. I do think Brutus truly believed he was doing the right thing. I have seen a trend of historians to diminish ideas of morality and idealism as influences on people's actions and to basically only look at the personal interest of people. I think this dehumanises the historical figure in question and by ignoring the psychological effects that ideas of morality can have on people they are actually getting further from the truth.
stuff like this makes me really wish you and Metatron would collab, lol. You seen his video on if Rome is evil? I am genuinely curious what you both would talk about in that topic or others about the Roman empire.
I haven't seen that video, but I'll definitely give it a look--I put together a legionary impression a year or two ago and his armor videos were an invaluable help. -Titus
@@tribunateSPQR Yeah i really recommend, also check the "Empire of Psychopaths: What Lead the Romans to be Quite so Brutal? DEBUNKED" video, as it almost seems like an accidental addendum to the topic of if roman people were all psychotic. I so hope you both can speak someday, you both are my favorite roman youtubers.
These Gens Aristo Families were all intermarried, and even after being defeated, and accepting clemency, the Clique wanted their power back. Caesar was leaving for Parthia on the 17th so they had to move fast; This was an act of restoring their own wealth and station, all while keeping their foot on the necks of the Plebs that they reviled and feared.
There were rumors Caesar fathered Brutus as Caesar and Brutus’ mother had an affair just before Brutus was born. Caesar was always favorable and partial to the boy and Brutus hated the idea Caesar could have been his father and hated Caesar for treating him as a father would treat a son trying to prepare him as a successor to a governing style Brutus despised.
My speculation on why Julius Caesar treated Marcus Junius Brutus is that Julius Caesar saw himself in Brutus. Caesar lacked a father figure of his own and had been unable to conceive a son. Caesar sought to be the father for Brutus because of these things.
It is worth noting here that the assassination of Julius Caesar - and the actions of Brutus - would inspire another assassin to conduct something akin to Caesar’s assassination. The assassin was John Wilkes Booth and the assassinated was Abraham Lincoln.
What another great video. I read Dante’s inferno and loved it, I do not like what Brutus did. And I’m sure he was tormented by his actions. I believe in forgiveness.
Thanks! Our next video will actually feature a profile of a very obscure roman woman and we'll be sure to shine a light on some of the less well known figures in the future
This seems like a far more likely reason. It's tradition and family legacy are far more powerful. It would also explain why they didn't plan any politics when the deed was done. They just locked themselves away.
Caesar's last words: "All I ask is that I have a salad, a salad dressing and an emergency medical procedure, that assists in extracting the child out of the mother's womb, when there are complications during the delivery, named after me." 😅
Plutarch wrote about Julius Caesar: "And that which led him to war against all mankind , as it had led Alexander before him, and Cyrus of old, was an insatiable love of power and a mad desire to be first and greatest; this he could not achieve if Pompey were not put down."
what this makes me wonder is: where does brutus fall on the Roman political spectrum? was he an actual supporter of the populares? Did the conspirators actually care about republican traditions, or was it simply an attempt to remove someone who was, to an extent, conveying more benefits onto the common person?
Brutus seems to have been an oligarch's oligarch. The definition of an old-money dickhead who reveled in the prestige his lineage afforded him. I'm usually wary of applying modern political labels to Roman figures but I don't hesitate to say that Brutus was a staunch conservative. I don't feel he was particularly averse to one man rule as he supported Pompey who certainly would have enjoyed a dictatorship akin to Caesar's had he won the civil war. Surprisingly however, the politics of the conspiracy at large are rather difficult to discern (mostly because Roman politics did not map out evenly on a modern left-right spectrum). Many of the conspirators were on Caesar's side during the civil war and had benefitted from his rise to power. For them, I think the prospect of a republic dominated by one man (even an ally) was less appealing than it was to Brutus. Hopefully this answers your question - but happy to provide more detail if clarification is required
I like Parenti's book a lot (a like almost everything Parenti has done for the record) but I think he does make a few errors. Still, it is a remarkably useful book for thinking about the Roman world from an ideological perspective as opposed to just accepting the right-leaning ancient sources at face value. A better, more academically vigorous book that still comes to the same Pro-Caesar conclusions is Julius Caesar and the Roman People by Robert Morstein-Marx. I really recommend this to anyone looking to go a little deeper into Roman history
The republican traditions had become a personal tool rather than a guiding light. The conspirators were produced by the republic going through its Winter.
I think that Caesar needed to die, but his assassination was carried out very poorly. I just wish that the conspirators had more time to figure out a better plan, and that Antony had been killed along with Caesar. I feel like that would have made it much harder for Octavian to seize power.
Sulla was elected dictator for life, Sulla was not assassinated, the Republic endured the death of Sulla, why would Caesar have been diffrent, if not assassinated?
@@chrisrubin6445 Caesar was flirting with declaring himself a king. There were several incidents he used to gauge public support for his complete overthrow of the Republic. Given enough time to entrench himself fully, he almost certainly would have gone through with it.
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Why do you believe Brutus decided to assassinate Caesar?
caesar wanted to destroy the republic, just like trump
Daddy issues?
A loss of oligarchic power, the death of his FIL at Caesars hands, being picked on by the populace. It was an easy conspiracy to get drawn in to I’m sure.
Everyone knows that drama between Atia of Junii and Servilia got so extreme that it led to Caesar dumping her. She then manipulated Brutus into joining the conspiracy.
At heart he was a republican and a patriot. Ceasars was corrupt.
name a salad a salad after me - Caesar before dying
But buddy, that salads named after the chef who invented it in Tijuana
@@malapertfourohfour2112that fact will be lost to history and that salad will be remembered as gaius julius ceasar's salad
@@kinkajou23 but it hasn't been yet, so why should I conform to a hypothetical future I don't prefer?
The play Julius Ceasar was not about Ceasar but about Brutus trying to reconcile his betrayal . When reading Paradise Lost one realizes that all evil is based on some kind of envy .
ambition + ruthlessness as well!
My name is Brutus and my name means heavy
So with a heavy heart
I'll guide this dagger into the heart of my enemy
My whole life, you were a teacher and friend to me
Please know my actions are not motivated only by envy
I, too, have a destiny
This death will be art
The people will speak of this day from near and afar
This event will be history, and I'll be great too
I don't want what you have, I want to be you
- Brutus by The Buttress (BTW this is a song)
I spit on Brutus but intentionally miss so as to hit those behind him.
Truly one of her best works
I’m sure he was in the right, because as Marc Antony says Brutus *checks smudged notes* has a leasable van?
I think you are right. Your analysis of the influence of Roman culture on his personal views is spot on. I do think Brutus truly believed he was doing the right thing. I have seen a trend of historians to diminish ideas of morality and idealism as influences on people's actions and to basically only look at the personal interest of people. I think this dehumanises the historical figure in question and by ignoring the psychological effects that ideas of morality can have on people they are actually getting further from the truth.
stuff like this makes me really wish you and Metatron would collab, lol. You seen his video on if Rome is evil? I am genuinely curious what you both would talk about in that topic or others about the Roman empire.
I haven't seen that video, but I'll definitely give it a look--I put together a legionary impression a year or two ago and his armor videos were an invaluable help.
-Titus
@@tribunateSPQR Yeah i really recommend, also check the "Empire of Psychopaths: What Lead the Romans to be Quite so Brutal? DEBUNKED" video, as it almost seems like an accidental addendum to the topic of if roman people were all psychotic. I so hope you both can speak someday, you both are my favorite roman youtubers.
@@enocescalona Thanks! he does great work and it's very encouraging to us that people lump us in with such a successful channel
There are so many stories of fathers killing their sons in Livy that at least one of them must have happened for real >_
you literally saved my history project, no joke. thank you so much, amazing video!
Good one I done Roman Empire for my history project when I was in school got a plain A
These Gens Aristo Families were all intermarried, and even after being defeated, and accepting clemency, the Clique wanted their power back. Caesar was leaving for Parthia on the 17th so they had to move fast; This was an act of restoring their own wealth and station, all while keeping their foot on the necks of the Plebs that they reviled and feared.
There were rumors Caesar fathered Brutus as Caesar and Brutus’ mother had an affair just before Brutus was born. Caesar was always favorable and partial to the boy and Brutus hated the idea Caesar could have been his father and hated Caesar for treating him as a father would treat a son trying to prepare him as a successor to a governing style Brutus despised.
I didn’t see you had covered this sorry I wrote it before watching the whole video.
Rome tv series does it good
Yes, absolutely. The scene where Brutus and Caesar play the board game near the end of season 1 is one of my absolute favorites
Beware the March of Ideas!
My speculation on why Julius Caesar treated Marcus Junius Brutus is that Julius Caesar saw himself in Brutus. Caesar lacked a father figure of his own and had been unable to conceive a son.
Caesar sought to be the father for Brutus because of these things.
I think I prefer the (alleged) Greek last words, so much more touching and cutting!
It's heartbreaking because even if he didn't have time to say it, I'm sure he thought this exact thing as the lights started to dim
It is worth noting here that the assassination of Julius Caesar - and the actions of Brutus - would inspire another assassin to conduct something akin to Caesar’s assassination.
The assassin was John Wilkes Booth and the assassinated was Abraham Lincoln.
The greatest Roman and the greatest American both ended by agents of the Oligarchy
This is a great video lol I've never heard this aspect of roman culture discussed before and I'm subbed to all the biggest roman history channels
What another great video. I read Dante’s inferno and loved it, I do not like what Brutus did. And I’m sure he was tormented by his actions. I believe in forgiveness.
My guess is that Caesar's last words were properly something along the lines of: "Ow! A knife!"
"This is violence!"
I’m so glad I found this channel. Thank you for the amazing content!
Very glad you enjoyed it, thanks for the support!
Shakespeare wasn't writing history, but drama. (obviously.)
This channel is great
thank you so much!
Love this channel. :) please do some more obscure figures from ancient Rome or greece
Thanks! Our next video will actually feature a profile of a very obscure roman woman and we'll be sure to shine a light on some of the less well known figures in the future
This seems like a far more likely reason. It's tradition and family legacy are far more powerful. It would also explain why they didn't plan any politics when the deed was done. They just locked themselves away.
Caesar's last words: "All I ask is that I have a salad, a salad dressing and an emergency medical procedure, that assists in extracting the child out of the mother's womb, when there are complications during the delivery, named after me." 😅
Plutarch wrote about Julius Caesar: "And that which led him to war against all mankind , as it had led Alexander before him, and Cyrus of old, was an insatiable love of power and a mad desire to be first and greatest; this he could not achieve if Pompey were not put down."
Cesar was a victim of the deep state, Cesar was the greatest Roman ever.
It's not hard to see where Dante was coming from
This channel is all gas all the time. Fire
what this makes me wonder is: where does brutus fall on the Roman political spectrum? was he an actual supporter of the populares? Did the conspirators actually care about republican traditions, or was it simply an attempt to remove someone who was, to an extent, conveying more benefits onto the common person?
Read Parenti’s book on this
Brutus seems to have been an oligarch's oligarch. The definition of an old-money dickhead who reveled in the prestige his lineage afforded him. I'm usually wary of applying modern political labels to Roman figures but I don't hesitate to say that Brutus was a staunch conservative. I don't feel he was particularly averse to one man rule as he supported Pompey who certainly would have enjoyed a dictatorship akin to Caesar's had he won the civil war.
Surprisingly however, the politics of the conspiracy at large are rather difficult to discern (mostly because Roman politics did not map out evenly on a modern left-right spectrum). Many of the conspirators were on Caesar's side during the civil war and had benefitted from his rise to power. For them, I think the prospect of a republic dominated by one man (even an ally) was less appealing than it was to Brutus.
Hopefully this answers your question - but happy to provide more detail if clarification is required
I like Parenti's book a lot (a like almost everything Parenti has done for the record) but I think he does make a few errors. Still, it is a remarkably useful book for thinking about the Roman world from an ideological perspective as opposed to just accepting the right-leaning ancient sources at face value.
A better, more academically vigorous book that still comes to the same Pro-Caesar conclusions is Julius Caesar and the Roman People by Robert Morstein-Marx. I really recommend this to anyone looking to go a little deeper into Roman history
The republican traditions had become a personal tool rather than a guiding light. The conspirators were produced by the republic going through its Winter.
Well done.
Notifications work.
That cultural interpretation was great.
But in the end... isn't Shakespeare right then? Brutus' duty to the state and to his family intertwine
I think that is how Brutus would have seen it, his act as the culmination of his family's destiny in service to the Republic.
I am Marcus
Great work as always
I think that Caesar needed to die, but his assassination was carried out very poorly. I just wish that the conspirators had more time to figure out a better plan, and that Antony had been killed along with Caesar. I feel like that would have made it much harder for Octavian to seize power.
Fitting sentiment for the pfp
Sulla was elected dictator for life, Sulla was not assassinated, the Republic endured the death of Sulla, why would Caesar have been diffrent, if not assassinated?
@@WorthlessWinner lol
@@chrisrubin6445 Caesar was flirting with declaring himself a king. There were several incidents he used to gauge public support for his complete overthrow of the Republic. Given enough time to entrench himself fully, he almost certainly would have gone through with it.
@@sypherthe297th2I mean that is essentially what Octavian did just a few decades later, so I’m sure that if Caesar could’ve done it he would’ve.
two roman narcissists duke it out over the republic. there Brutus and Caesar explained.
Brutus did the right thing.
How dare you?