This episode was so stupid with the death of the witches. I was hoping there would be a lot of potential. I thought it was going to be cool. Even when they introduced the thread. She said some call it the force. Similar to what zeb in rebels did. But then the twins whined and whined and also Mae was just crazy. She wanted to kill osha because she didn’t want her to leave?! And then the fire kills all of them. There wasn’t any fire close to them. They were surrounded but it but there wasn’t anything on them. And then Mae just be perfectly fine Edit: I just realized it is all brick and stone that burned the mountain down 💀💀
Stfu, just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it is all bad. Mandolorian and Andor are both great shows under Disney as well as the entirety of Clone wars.
@@ThatOneDisneyGuy Clone Wars was from 2008. Save for Andor, do you have anything recent that is Star Wars and genuinely good? The Mandalorian started good and is now flopping too. So many failures and so little wins.
@@danieldimov8625 I’ve enjoyed everything that Disney has put out, I’m not the kind of person who decides to complain about everything that comes out of the Star Wars universe
Enough with making more clans of female witches, it doesn’t work now in days because of awful writing, nothing will ever top the sisters of dathomir they were PEAK
Literally this. It’s no different than the difference between how the Jedi and the night sisters view and use the force. It doesn’t change how we the viewer see the force. Just a different perspective
That’s what I thought! That makes it more realistic. Why would billions of people around the galaxy all use the same terminology? Here on Earth look at how many different religions we have and ways express their belief in a higher power. Why wouldn’t Star Wars be like that?
Exactly. Not defending how boring and shit the episode was, except Sol and Osha who keep being my fav in the show. It didn't do anything that hasn't been done before. In ewoks, logray uses the force, and there's a witch who also uses the force, but they see it as "magic". Everyone has their perspective. Also a cult of only females, sure I don't like it, but it's nothing to cry about lmao I was really scared but it turned out to be nothing. "EpIsOdE 3 wILl dEsTrOy sTar wArS"😂😂😂
I think the room full of dead witches wasn’t the fire as their in a stone room and plus you wouldn’t all ball in one area but try find a way out so what probably happened is the Jedi we’re blamed for the fire and it led to a fight where the Jedi cut down all of the witches and pretended the fire was the soul cause
If that was the case, Mae would’ve instantly told her that the Jedi killed everyone, and you really think that group of jedi just force choked every witch to death since there isn’t lightsaber cuts
In the EU Jacen, and later Luke and Ben, went on a soujorn finding many varying views and interactions with the Force. The dathomiri did see the Force like a string, but it was used to connect them to their environment, not have miraculous births.
After we got the buzz, we were all hoping Dark Vader will show up and basically eliminate everybody and then say in the end, fools this the real absolute power of the Darkside. Then travel back to the original franchise, putting it back the way it’s supposed to be and saving it. Wow what we all dream of.
They retcon the expanded universe, literally burn some old jedi books in the sequels, and now burn a book in this one? So Disney is just book burning now. Forget it, just stop giving them money.
In the background in the second to last scene Torbin’s face is cut up. There is more that happen that night that was not shown. My guess is Torbin and Indera took out the witches without Sol knowing and covered it up by saying they all got caught in the fire.
This feels like the result of head injuries. In no way did the show change the definition of the force. You’re getting the perspective of one of two twins in this, and yes, maybe the Jedi attempt to oversteo their bounds. I hope you’re gonna be ok.
Indara probably doesnt know anything about Jedi ways. Did she told the witches Jedi strictly prohibited training of children? A second later she says we dont take children. Then proceeds to recruit THE children.🤦♂️
It's kinda sad cuz the premises is actually really unique and could've been good. Here's an alternative they could've done: Twins superstitiously are said to have an abnormal connection, but with midoclorians who's to say this link is not more literal in the force? Twins of great force potential are sent to the order where they're taught to disregard their attachments. Easier for others but the twins would struggle deeply especially as they became more separated. One day twin 2 struggling harder is sent on a mission with her master, but it pushes her to the limit and she snaps and swells up with dark energy. In a fit of rage she slaughters her master. The order receiving word of this sends a group to subdue or kill the padawan, but twin 1 can feel this corruption tear at her so she follows in secret. Dramatic moments where twin 1 arrives to hear clashing and as she approaches finds her sister ruthlessly fighting while she's encircled by disciplined warriors. In a tear filled moment she is cut doen without mercy and leaving twin 1 in absolute distress. Until...twin 2's bidy writhing with hatred spilks out as a sudo-force ghost, a black wraith of pure hatred and puppets her broken twin to finish what she started. NOW we have a manhunt for the last twin who clinging to her teaching of the light while her twins spirit haunts her. Flipping good and evil while the good twins master seeks her out desperate to save the rogue padawan. There. Now you have a murderous jeckel & hyde thriller witha dual perspective story of cat & mouse. All the while painting the flawed structure of the order that hints to it's eventual downfalls.
Maybe wait for the show to actually finish before assuming you know where the plot is going. Torbin said "We thought we were doing the right thing." Then we see a pile of dead witches, obviously not burned. Hmmm, maybe a fight broke out between the Jedi and the Witches and they just haven't revealed that yet. Because TV and film is about holding back info a building suspense. Also every force user feels and defines force different so the Mother saying it's a thread is legit for her. Like Avar Kris feels the force like a song. Then singing was dumb ofc but I think the main problem fans have with this show is the fact it's women centric and that's coming from a man. I just didn't think star wars fan base was filled to the brim with incels /:
Maybe finish the show and all these problems will be solved. You’re just hating for no reason😂 do you want the show to reveal the entire plot immediately?
My god bro you're criticizing the episode based on unanswered questions that will be revealed. Of course there's more to it than "fire killed everyone instantly" There's a reason Torbin felt guilty and a reason why Mae is killing the Jedi that were there. Think about it.
Bro, they literally destroyed Anakin’s character Anakin was special because he was the only one conceived by the force this destroyed it by showing other people being conceived by the force
Then this episode isn't needed. They've been saying. Mae started a fire, jedi wanted to "help". They could've shown the Mae's side of the story. Now they gonna waste another episode with Mae story. Lame as shit
@@JohnJohn-bz1lqWell I'd still say they differ. The birth of the twins was manual, in a way. The mothers hinted at one of them conceiving the child and the other creating it using the force. Could be some mystical magic(k) that we'll hear more of later. Anakin's conception seemed to be by the force itself in contrast.
@nesstealer17 but then there is no mystery I get you star wars nerds are borderline retarded but you've gotta have a story and keep some answers from the audience 😊
Force witches has been a thing right it’s not too far-fetched to think they will have a different interpretation of the force which is a Jedi interpretation of the energy that binds the universe how are people so confused by this
Seems like everyone I'd really ready to dump on this show VERY quickly without seeing it play out. I didn't think it was bad or cringy or anything. Probably see Maes side of the story next time.
Lol I enjoyed this episode. Does EVERY episode have to be action filled? The first two had lots of action. We don’t know the full story yet and why things happened how they did. Redefining the force? I don’t get what you’re talking about. The witches just use different terms and use the force differently than the Jedi and the Sith. Is this really too confusing for people? Let the mystery unfold.
It was a solid episode... reveals why sol felt like oshas sisters fall was his fault. We see their backstory and why her sister wants the 4 jedi dead. Not a waste of time
@@SHOOKEARTHMEDIA You want to predict the future. It's like watching Game of Thrones and judging a bad episode because you don't yet know the conclusion. Calm down and wait.
I have no reason to have faith in the writing, at this point. We’ll see, but I doubt it. Also an explanation later doesn’t fix the problem. It would be more compelling if the original explanation for the deaths was believable on its face. That way, when the real explanation comes, it’s more surprising. I don’t need foresight to be able to criticize the execution here.
@@SHOOKEARTHMEDIA George Lucas made it clear that Star Wars is for children. It's really funny to hear people over 40 thinking that the franchise's stories should be written for them. I'm 33 now and I can watch Acolyte knowing that I'm not the target audience. It's like watching Clone Wars or Bad Batch and wanting those cartoons to have writing with the quality of Tolkien's books. We need to accept that this will not happen. Thank you for the channel content. 🤘
Dued, get a grip.and stop critizing everything, it was a good episode, wtf why do you have to attack any,sine thing without reason? There was so much shit in the prequels and no one complained back then.
The only problem I don't have with it is the Jedi became child protective services. They were originally peacekeepers. That sounds close enough to me
I haven't watched one episode man and doubt I will
Good choice, I wish I hadn’t lol
SO SAD 😢 STAR WARS IS OVER
It's not over. There is over thirty years of content. I just listened to the new jedi order. Remember, "Your focus determines your reality."
Andor season 2 will Rock!!!
Woke up as if from a nightmare, dripping of sweat and with "the power of one, the power of two the power of maneeeeeee" echoing in my ears
Asslyte 😂😂😂 the shit has hit the fan and its stuck there
This episode was so stupid with the death of the witches. I was hoping there would be a lot of potential. I thought it was going to be cool. Even when they introduced the thread. She said some call it the force. Similar to what zeb in rebels did. But then the twins whined and whined and also Mae was just crazy. She wanted to kill osha because she didn’t want her to leave?! And then the fire kills all of them. There wasn’t any fire close to them. They were surrounded but it but there wasn’t anything on them. And then Mae just be perfectly fine
Edit: I just realized it is all brick and stone that burned the mountain down 💀💀
Me when I make senseless rage bait:
Disney Star Wars is trash
Stfu, just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it is all bad. Mandolorian and Andor are both great shows under Disney as well as the entirety of Clone wars.
@@ThatOneDisneyGuy22% average viewer score:)
@@danieldimov8625 I’m talking about the other stuff that is better like clone wars. That’s what I was saying
@@ThatOneDisneyGuy Clone Wars was from 2008. Save for Andor, do you have anything recent that is Star Wars and genuinely good? The Mandalorian started good and is now flopping too. So many failures and so little wins.
@@danieldimov8625 I’ve enjoyed everything that Disney has put out, I’m not the kind of person who decides to complain about everything that comes out of the Star Wars universe
Enough with making more clans of female witches, it doesn’t work now in days because of awful writing, nothing will ever top the sisters of dathomir they were PEAK
At least the Night Sister's put up a fight. Most boring episode SO FAR. At this point episode four is the clear winner.
I don’t think it changed the force but rather showing the way other religions see the force in their own way.
Literally this. It’s no different than the difference between how the Jedi and the night sisters view and use the force. It doesn’t change how we the viewer see the force. Just a different perspective
That’s what I thought! That makes it more realistic. Why would billions of people around the galaxy all use the same terminology? Here on Earth look at how many different religions we have and ways express their belief in a higher power. Why wouldn’t Star Wars be like that?
@@TimothyMorigeauBecause certain things are static. In France math is the same as in China.
@@R3fug333 I'm going to pretend you didn't compare math to religion...
Exactly. Not defending how boring and shit the episode was, except Sol and Osha who keep being my fav in the show. It didn't do anything that hasn't been done before. In ewoks, logray uses the force, and there's a witch who also uses the force, but they see it as "magic". Everyone has their perspective. Also a cult of only females, sure I don't like it, but it's nothing to cry about lmao I was really scared but it turned out to be nothing. "EpIsOdE 3 wILl dEsTrOy sTar wArS"😂😂😂
They didnt change the Definition of the force they just showed how those witched interpreted it
Terrible acting in episode Four !😢😢😢
Didn't know rocks can burn !😂😂😂😂
I think the room full of dead witches wasn’t the fire as their in a stone room and plus you wouldn’t all ball in one area but try find a way out so what probably happened is the Jedi we’re blamed for the fire and it led to a fight where the Jedi cut down all of the witches and pretended the fire was the soul cause
If that was the case, Mae would’ve instantly told her that the Jedi killed everyone, and you really think that group of jedi just force choked every witch to death since there isn’t lightsaber cuts
I thought that was the obvious implication. The reason for Mae wanting revenge and the extreme guilt of the padawan are well foreshadowed.
No wonder Darth Maul lost to Kenobi _ In Episode: 01 ! 😢
In the EU Jacen, and later Luke and Ben, went on a soujorn finding many varying views and interactions with the Force. The dathomiri did see the Force like a string, but it was used to connect them to their environment, not have miraculous births.
There’s more to the backstory that will explain the plot holes you mentioned. Trust the process.
Like when people trusted the process for the Sequel Trilogy? Hell nah, Star Wars is dead. 💀
The only way Star Wars can be saved is if they change the name to this series to Gender and Race Wars
Never bought disney plus thanks for convincing me to never buy it
After we got the buzz, we were all hoping Dark Vader will show up and basically eliminate everybody and then say in the end, fools this the real absolute power of the Darkside. Then travel back to the original franchise, putting it back the way it’s supposed to be and saving it. Wow what we all dream of.
They retcon the expanded universe, literally burn some old jedi books in the sequels, and now burn a book in this one? So Disney is just book burning now. Forget it, just stop giving them money.
In the background in the second to last scene Torbin’s face is cut up. There is more that happen that night that was not shown. My guess is Torbin and Indera took out the witches without Sol knowing and covered it up by saying they all got caught in the fire.
OK, you don’t know if all he did was take a blood sample. It seems obvious that they were ordered to kill all the witches and probably by Yoda.
This feels like the result of head injuries. In no way did the show change the definition of the force. You’re getting the perspective of one of two twins in this, and yes, maybe the Jedi attempt to oversteo their bounds. I hope you’re gonna be ok.
Indara probably doesnt know anything about Jedi ways.
Did she told the witches Jedi strictly prohibited training of children?
A second later she says we dont take children. Then proceeds to recruit THE children.🤦♂️
That sounds exactly like the hypocrisy of the Jedi to me
This shit is ass now they can just torch the whole star wars series
Obviously there is more to it then we saw likely we're gonna see what happened from the other twins side to find out why she hates the jedi so much
Black kids with no dad around?
Nope. The first half dragged and I was tempted to turn it off but got interesting and I'm glad I stayed 🤓😎✌🏼
"the gayest star wars ever"
Yeah we can see by previews
It's kinda sad cuz the premises is actually really unique and could've been good.
Here's an alternative they could've done:
Twins superstitiously are said to have an abnormal connection, but with midoclorians who's to say this link is not more literal in the force?
Twins of great force potential are sent to the order where they're taught to disregard their attachments. Easier for others but the twins would struggle deeply especially as they became more separated.
One day twin 2 struggling harder is sent on a mission with her master, but it pushes her to the limit and she snaps and swells up with dark energy. In a fit of rage she slaughters her master.
The order receiving word of this sends a group to subdue or kill the padawan, but twin 1 can feel this corruption tear at her so she follows in secret.
Dramatic moments where twin 1 arrives to hear clashing and as she approaches finds her sister ruthlessly fighting while she's encircled by disciplined warriors. In a tear filled moment she is cut doen without mercy and leaving twin 1 in absolute distress.
Until...twin 2's bidy writhing with hatred spilks out as a sudo-force ghost, a black wraith of pure hatred and puppets her broken twin to finish what she started.
NOW we have a manhunt for the last twin who clinging to her teaching of the light while her twins spirit haunts her. Flipping good and evil while the good twins master seeks her out desperate to save the rogue padawan.
There. Now you have a murderous jeckel & hyde thriller witha dual perspective story of cat & mouse. All the while painting the flawed structure of the order that hints to it's eventual downfalls.
Maybe wait for the show to actually finish before assuming you know where the plot is going. Torbin said "We thought we were doing the right thing." Then we see a pile of dead witches, obviously not burned. Hmmm, maybe a fight broke out between the Jedi and the Witches and they just haven't revealed that yet. Because TV and film is about holding back info a building suspense. Also every force user feels and defines force different so the Mother saying it's a thread is legit for her. Like Avar Kris feels the force like a song. Then singing was dumb ofc but I think the main problem fans have with this show is the fact it's women centric and that's coming from a man. I just didn't think star wars fan base was filled to the brim with incels /:
Maybe finish the show and all these problems will be solved. You’re just hating for no reason😂 do you want the show to reveal the entire plot immediately?
They didn't change the definition of the force, they call it by a different name like I'm sure many species do. The Nightsister's also use the force.
Lesbian women of color Space witches get it right
I agree, it’s doesn’t seem like a straight human directed it. Has a snowflake woke feel to it. Won’t be watching anymore of it. Good luck.
My god bro you're criticizing the episode based on unanswered questions that will be revealed. Of course there's more to it than "fire killed everyone instantly" There's a reason Torbin felt guilty and a reason why Mae is killing the Jedi that were there. Think about it.
Bro, they literally destroyed Anakin’s character Anakin was special because he was the only one conceived by the force this destroyed it by showing other people being conceived by the force
Then this episode isn't needed. They've been saying. Mae started a fire, jedi wanted to "help". They could've shown the Mae's side of the story. Now they gonna waste another episode with Mae story. Lame as shit
@@JohnJohn-bz1lqWell I'd still say they differ. The birth of the twins was manual, in a way. The mothers hinted at one of them conceiving the child and the other creating it using the force. Could be some mystical magic(k) that we'll hear more of later. Anakin's conception seemed to be by the force itself in contrast.
@nesstealer17 but then there is no mystery I get you star wars nerds are borderline retarded but you've gotta have a story and keep some answers from the audience 😊
Force witches has been a thing right it’s not too far-fetched to think they will have a different interpretation of the force which is a Jedi interpretation of the energy that binds the universe how are people so confused by this
Wonder what the comic _ Hope it's not boring!
Seems like everyone I'd really ready to dump on this show VERY quickly without seeing it play out. I didn't think it was bad or cringy or anything. Probably see Maes side of the story next time.
Lol I enjoyed this episode. Does EVERY episode have to be action filled? The first two had lots of action. We don’t know the full story yet and why things happened how they did. Redefining the force? I don’t get what you’re talking about. The witches just use different terms and use the force differently than the Jedi and the Sith. Is this really too confusing for people? Let the mystery unfold.
this show is disgusting
Of course it’s gonna be based around the black person too as a main character woke shit
It was a solid episode... reveals why sol felt like oshas sisters fall was his fault. We see their backstory and why her sister wants the 4 jedi dead. Not a waste of time
All of it could’ve been told much more efficiently. Definitely didn’t need a full episode dedicated to it.
It's a waste of time, Disney shill!
Blah blah blah
Action with no story telling is just visual noise
If u just want light saber fights all the time just watch the old crappy prequels lol
Get mental help
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This episode belongs on the BET network not Starwars.
Maybe they will explain in episode 4? Let's wait...
Doubt it
@@SHOOKEARTHMEDIA You want to predict the future. It's like watching Game of Thrones and judging a bad episode because you don't yet know the conclusion. Calm down and wait.
I have no reason to have faith in the writing, at this point. We’ll see, but I doubt it. Also an explanation later doesn’t fix the problem. It would be more compelling if the original explanation for the deaths was believable on its face. That way, when the real explanation comes, it’s more surprising. I don’t need foresight to be able to criticize the execution here.
@@SHOOKEARTHMEDIA George Lucas made it clear that Star Wars is for children. It's really funny to hear people over 40 thinking that the franchise's stories should be written for them. I'm 33 now and I can watch Acolyte knowing that I'm not the target audience. It's like watching Clone Wars or Bad Batch and wanting those cartoons to have writing with the quality of Tolkien's books. We need to accept that this will not happen. Thank you for the channel content. 🤘
I can watch early Pixar films for children, and they have much better writing than this.
Disney Star Wars is NOT CANON
Dued, get a grip.and stop critizing everything, it was a good episode, wtf why do you have to attack any,sine thing without reason? There was so much shit in the prequels and no one complained back then.
everybody complained about how bad the prequels were. people dont complain about the prequels anymore after the sequels were released
Just say y’all want all white peoples in your Star Wars
This show looks terrible. But your such a princess😂 its a show about a fake reality. You really thing jedis are real dontchuu?! Lol😂😂