Serious issues with NVIDIA 572.16 Driver! Beware!
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
- Widespread reports indicate there could be something wrong with the RTX 5090 and RTX 5090D driver causing black screens and other permanent issue with the new 50 series monster gpu... Is this something to worry about?
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Turns out this is a much wider issue affecting people on older gen NVIDIA cards too using 572.16 driver! Some people have been able to DDU away their issues but many have not and continue to experience issues even after rolling back their drivers!
This is why I only update drivers if I have issues. No matter the hardware.
@@TheOmeiI should start doing that
4090 on 572.16 here, black screens or crashes in a number of games. DDU in safemode and still the same problems persist. Downgrade to 566.36 and no problems at all.
My 4080super will be starting stutters at the beginning of going into windows, it was even black screened for a few times before I ddu the driver and reinstall it. I used 3 days to find out it was the driver's fault and now I am really considering going back to the previous driver
4090 here and I’ve had nothing but issues since updating. I’ve DDU’d several times but the problems persist. A lot of people are in the same boat. This is terrible.
All 23 people with 5090s are in shambles
😂🤣
I made a similar post. I'm guessing all those UA-cam channels better be careful.
Lolol
i assume its even less that actually use their cards, some are still trying to scalp them
Shhuusshh , let them cook themselves
It's fine. Nvidia can just recall the 15 cards they sold.
😅😅
Seriously though, the biggest nvidia sellers only got like 30 cards per location
15? You have high hopes.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!
14 of those cards are still new in box!
half of the rtx5090 sent to the reviewers
half of the rtx5090 bricked
"our sales are very good, we are out of stock"
😂
LMAO
Half? 75% of the cards went to reviewers. There are entire countries that got ZERO cards.
@ I was nice with nvidia... it's not their fault...
oh... wait...
More like 50% were scalped and smuggled into China. 25% left for average joe. 25% reviewers.
"AMD drivers are unstable"
_UNO REVERSE CARD_
NVidia fans will still be ragging on AMD drivers.
@@pieflies Truth be told , I never, ever had any driver issues with my 6800xt. now that i'm on Nvidia I have slightly more, but still nothing disturbing. both make (or can make) excellent drivers.
@@fredspekvet5875 it’s been a long time since I had Nvidia but I have had the same experience.
But no major issues with either.
@@pieflies There are no winners here, shit drivers vs dysfunctional hardware, im kinda rooting for Intel pushing out hopefully reliable drivers on affordable lower tier cards, however i dont think they are fixing their shit fast enough either.
AMD: drivers are unstable
Nvidia: drivers fry your GPU
I really don't like that "We'll fix it in post" has become the default business model for a lot of industries
Yes exactly! From pAst, new things always had some Risk but now it is guaranteed to have problems! First buyers that pay the highest premiums price are actually the beta-testers that the company rely to fix (if possible). Things are made not only from unreliable components but intentionally made to survive just until the warranty…
This is a trend that's taken over all industries really. Your home appliances are a good example - it's far cheaper to outsource a portion of what you would spend on a quality team in the factory to companies that hire technicians to go out in the field and replace your 5 dollar part within the first year. Sometimes the failures are more catastrophic, but that's made up for. They also test these products out on us in the field instead of doing rigorous testing before releases.. but that's much to do with the pace the world moves at these days.
It only got like that because the market allowed it. They should have rejected the product.
Consumers gotta stop throwing money at every new thing or this trend won't stop.
@@RetroBerner i doubt Nvidia didn't know about that issue.
Not only fake frames, but fake GPU's too? This is hilarious.
I spat out my water 😂😂😂😂😂
You forgot fake drivers driven by AI
I love how someone said this as a joke on release day, and then it actually happens 😂😂😂
Funny how u nerds say fake frames while playing video games with is also fake can’t make this shit up
If you spent $1000's on some fake frames just day that 😂@@Jizzle1600
hopefully this gets sorted sooner rather than later for all 10 people who own 5090s
I got my FE 5090 on launch day from the NC Micro Center and so far I haven’t had an issue.
@@piccolo398 hopefully this gets sorted sooner rather than later for the other 9 people who own 5090s
@@superpork1superboy771 8
"Turns out this is a much wider issue affecting people on older gen NVIDIA cards too using 572.16 driver! Some people have been able to DDU away their issues but many have not and continue to experience issues even after rolling back their drivers!"
Like I said I'll wait 1year before I make purchases until every problem is revealed
I potentially had this happen today on a 5090 founders. System ran fine yesterday, then this morning no display at all. Tried power cycling about 20 times with no luck.
I booted from integrated graphics with all the monitors disconnected from the 5090 and was able to get into windows, 5090 was not recognised in Device Manager at all.
Shut down, connected my monutor back to the 5090 and it fired right back up as if nothing had ever happened.
Will email you later this evening.
Self healing electronics 🤔
That's always fun when you want to document it or show it to someone else.
Hopefully it doesnt happen again. you paid a lot for that monster.
572.16 isn't just trash for 50 series. I rolled back my drivers after two days due to issues with my 3080. Been great since I rolled it back.
Same bro
@@cez7603 same here with 3060
What kind of issues did you have? I just got a new PC with my old 3080, and yesterday had a full system lock-up with subsequent file corruption for all apps I had opened at the time of said lock-up (never happened before, so not sure what to blame here).
I don't have a 3080 right now, but I'm scared for my mobile 3050. will probably hold off on the update for now.
I've been getting blue-screen crashes
It's a car wreck and they've barely got out of the garage.
Best Summary of the situation
Ah, a Cybertruck
They backed out and forgot to open the garage door LOL
You mean, wreck right at the end of assembly line?
Imagine spending $4K for a scalped 5090. If your card doesn’t brick itself, you have to deal with bad ports and games made with Stutter Engine 5.
They'll fix the droves but it will be -20% performance
Don’t forget that Nvidia’s warranty only applies to the original purchaser. So if you bought a scalped 5080/90 and it bricks, you’re sol.
$4K?? Where??? That's a deal compared to what I'm finding 🤓
In Australia the msi card that just arrived was $4599 AUD
@@darrenpoulton6643 in europe its 3.2k euro, cheapest model
Sounds like Nvidia decided to cut their testing budget in favor of buying more jackets.
NVIDIA should Jack-it in if they can build a product that goes inside another product but that doesn't melt
Sometimes I think I might be a hobbit. 1:33 I clearly heard: "Let's go back 3 lunches."
Same
I still dont understand how the 12V6x2 cable (or whatever it's called) passed the standard. Building code in the US and Canada requires wiring no smaller than 14ga for a 15A circuit and no smaller than 12ga for a 20A circuit. It's not hard to figure out that more current and power requires thicker wires, yet this plug used only by Nvidia uses thinner wires to transmit more power through each wire.
*insert shocked Pikachu face when cables melt and burn*
Wait does this also apply to cables provided by PSU manufacturers?
Fake frames, frame launch, fake stocks, and now fake drivers? Is anything this company touches real?
The only real thing is our money being burned to ashes
Jensen's jackets look pretty real to me
fa, fr, la... I agree with you completely, but you need to work on your typing skills bro.
Hold my beer, said MSI and ASUS, before increasing prices
The joke is real
Between stuff like this, the total lack of compelling AAA games coming down the pipeline, and the ever increasing cost of new GPUs I've never been less enthusiastic about being a PC gamer.
Pc gaming was never about high end hardware and triple A games only.
@@arenzricodexd4409 These companies forget that the bread and butter of any business are the low to mid tier cards. They could actually sell more by not overpricing provided they can manufacture enough of it. I'm staying with my old gpu until I find something that wouldn't cost me an arm and a leg because gaming isn't just my life and I also need to take care of my family and other things.
@@dredgewalker that might be the case 15 to 20 years ago. Back in 2016 JPR have specific research on gaming hardware sales. Mid range sell the most volume but that segment no longer generate the most revenue. According to JPR reports high end hardware generate more revenue than mid range sales despite high end sell less volume. Back in 2016 AMD have investor slide mentioning "the opportunity beyond $200 market". It is why AMD make those Vega Frontier sold at $1500. The issue is AMD Radeon branding is not as storng as nvidia to sell such expensive hardware.
You know there's indie, old games and smaller studios that doesn't cost arm & leg, right? I don't see a good justification buying a new high end card purely on playing games unless you're using it for work.
ill get a new gpu when we start getting more good AAA games, like crysis and armored core instead of mass produced unreal 5 trash.
with fake frames comes fake bricks
Well this would be a real brick. A bricked gpu.
i miss the part where that's my problem
Another bricked card in the wall.
And Nvidia fanboys have the audacity to trash Radeon drivers every 5 nanoseconds
To be fair. They were trash for a while
And AMD fanboys use every Nvidia issue to justify AMD's issues. There are no winners lol
@@gelul12never had an issue with my 6800 drivers for 4 years
As a Radeon user, I agree, drivers are indeed trash
@@gelul12 But never bricked the GPUs!
"Can we not fave things to burn". I design electronics for a living and I don't understand how these companies get away with it?
Under all consumer protection regulations in many countries this is an immediate no-go zone and such products should be pulled from the market immediately.
For very get reason.
It's like having battery cables run through a human hair sized wire. Just bone headed design. Damn near criminal IMO.
Stay vigilant, American companies always looking to infiltrate and deregulate in other places to loot them too.
They get away with it because people bitch and moan then buy the products anyways. Companies have grown callous of this and will simply keep trucking.
Another reason why being an 'early adopter' isn't always rainbows and sunshine 😅
It never is
Its called "bleeding edge" for a reason
I don't do early adopting anymore (I mean I could consider it, for a free product lol but thats it)
@@abunk8691 because their wallets are hemorrhaging money for this BS.
unless you were an early adopter of rainbows and sunshine 🤷♂️
Anyone with understanding of voltage, amperage, etc, knows that the answer to more power is never to reduce the size of the connector, and/or the gauge of the wire. Clearly someone more worried about form than function created the new connector.
i mean even with the duel connector one lead from PSU...i found that to be potentially problematic when pushing an OC. I put my 3070 strix to 1.1v which never really hit 1.1v bc of nv/boost characteristics...but the amps pushed through a single lead to a 2 8 pin connector card...IMO isnt worth considering/risk. Same with triple connector 7900xt and the XTX when largely considering a max out OC for hardest to run AAA titles or synthetic benchmark scoring. At times the LED/blinked at the connectors on my 3070 strix that meant voltage/issue when i was only using a single PCIE lead from my psu..swapped to two leads...and that never happened again....PPL on reddit would say otherwise...yet IDK how hard theyre pushing their GPU 'stating' TDP/ranges or 150w+75w board power....mine hit 325w in extreme/gaming circumstances. Now i have a 4070ti fully cranked 3ghz +2000 mem...and its on an adapter XD...got it open box but no melting here...or snapped off connectors from the pcb. FWIW the 3070strix vrm/board design was rather OVERKILL. The 3070 FE needed an UV to keep the stock 0rpm idle/temp fan curve...and keep it mild from cranking up too high/loud....plus it had coil whine w.o the UV. Gauge and amps is most definitely the enemy it only takes a bad ground/connection or 1 wire to start degrading to lead to a catastrophe. I even got a seasonic 12 pin OE connector shipped for free when i got the 3070 FE before i traded it for a strix at launch....and HIGHLY doubt its safe to use with an ada lovelace gpu. Sure a 3070 FE/draw is probably safe enough to use(possibly a 4070-4070s at most but why take the risk) when its a version 1 q4 2020 9 amp duel 8 pin lead to 12 pin connector....but i wouldnt consider it with anything higher. With the UV it never broke 225w max. Compared to the OC/strix which hit 325w when playing poe with maxed settings or D2R or D4 maxed out. I just used a frame cap to keep thermals/wattage manageble b4 i upgraded to an ada lovelace Open box bestbuy gigabyte. The irony was that the 4070 windforce came with an 8 pin connector...but the supers are 12 pin smdh.
@@anhiirr PCI-e at the PSU side is not the problem. That connector have 8 power pins and are rated for 300W. On the GPU end, there is only 6 power pins + 2 sense pins. And that connector is only rated at 150W (altho it sure can handle atleast 225W).
more voltage doesn't correlate with connector size or wire gauge size, it's about isolation capabilities instead of wire resistance
Exactly! I'm amazed this dumb little cable has stuck around. This seems like a terrible idea.
I'd be extremely happy to see scalpers get a brick that they can't sell
It will only be a brick to the buyer. Hopefully they get a transferrable warranty when they buy the scalped cards. LOL!
They are fine, they just sell them. They are not using the cards. They might sit longer on the cards than they wanted but they well sell them eventually. Worst case for them is that they dont make a profit.
Scalpers literally never plug them in sadly
They sell them new and don't accept returns. lol they thought this one through
They will just rma it.
Holy hell I just purchased a brand new PC with a 4060 GPU and updated it to the latest driver, experienced a black screen that never went away, I was nervous because I thought I had bricked my PC. Luckily, after rebooting the PC it was fine, so I managed to downgrade my driver to the December release and it’s all currently fine.
Experienced the exact thing on my desktop 4070 Super.
My Main screen had a purple overlay upon updating to the newest driver, I instantly knew this driver is an issue for an RTX 4060 TI. Luckily no black screen yet but games (Guild Wars 2- Havok) and any unreal 5 engine game have crashed due to the driver. I may roll back just in case.
I read that the new driver is causing extreme cpu usage while running Corsair Icue.
I got a 4060 not had a problem with the new driver yet but only playing marvel rivals atm can't get a solid 120fps 1080p though 😢
3:45 As far as I understand the cable is the same. So 12VHPWR vs 12V2x6 is related to the PSU and the GPU end.
12V2x6 connector has shorter sensing pins (1.5mm) while the conductor terminals are 0.25mm longer.
And yes it is true, 50 series and some late 40 series used 12V2x6 but as you said this solves only half of the issue if you are using a 3.0 ATX. The issue is supposedly solved completely with having a ATX3.1 and newer GPU series, ensuring that you have a complete 12V2x6 setup.
This is true. Some cable companies seem to be using this as an opportunity to release "new" cables (they may be slightly different in some ways, I don't know.) But I am pretty sure the cable spec is the same as you say.
Nvidia is wishing they stayed with 8 pins
The issue is solved completely if you replace those connectors for EPS 18v connectors, which is what the Quadro cards use.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino 18v???
I put some heatsinks on my 12VHPWR connector. Now I can sleep.
Super cool how the past few generations have routinely had issues with flagship Nvidia cards
Yet they still command more and more money when the newest generation releases. KEKW!
I member when 3090's had temp issues because Nvidia tried to save 5 cents on the thermal pads for their 1500 dollar cards.
but those amd drivers.. tihi.
@@brahtrumpwonbigly7309 Nvidia is a small poor company that needs to save every nickel /s
Lol... clearly you're haven't been paying much attention. It's called greed bud, and nvidia has got it bad the last half decade or so.
This whole Situation fells like a payed Alpha Test and not like a Launch...
And people whine about AMD display drivers!! Granted, they had their issues back in the day, but haven't heard too much negative about them in recent years.
Every RDNA generation had problematic drivers at launch. RDNA2 was the least offensive, but it was still worse than Nvidia's average launch day drivers.
Hmm... That appears to no longer be the case?
Watching this with interest
I bought a 7600xt last year. On windows, i have about 4 times the crashes i had with nvidia, and i now have some random blackscreens that shut the entire computer down. I've tried about two dozen possible solutions, that all didn't work. Works flawlessly, even on max loads for extended periods of time, on linux though.
XTX user here I’ve had zero issues
Lol I’ll still never buy an amd gpu over nvidia 🤷♂️
I literally JUST got a 4090 replacement through RMA after mine turned into a basic VGA adapter. I was able to do everything on the desktop fine, but as soon as I launched a game, or up to 2 minutes into it playing, it would freeze and crash to desktop. No matter what game. It was sooo frustrating to figure out. And thank goodness I had a buddy with a PC locally that I could test it in
Actually the ATX 3.1 cable is the same as 3.0. only the ports on the gpu and powersupply changed.
Corsair has this nicely explained on their page.
It sounds like 50 series might be getting a combination of the growing pains that 40 series and Intel 14th gen had.
Ryzen 7000 too
failed quicker tran gollum and that other game
Intel and Nvidia had a baby and it got both of the worst traits
Growing pains is putting it lightly 😅
the best thing that happened with the release of the 50 series are the laughter they gave us with how bad things are right now
"We are stuck with technology when all we really want is just stuff that works." - Douglas Adams
That driver caused issues even with my 4090. After playing Indiana Jones for some time, the display started strobing. Only reverting to the December driver fixed the issue.
I installed the 572.16 drivers on my i5-13600k system with a fairly new Asus RTX 4070
Super and a Samsung Odyseey Oled G9 49". I mention the monitor because, prior to updating to the 572.16 Nvidia driver (and doing a simple express update; hey, I'm old and lazyi), I was getting flickering when booting up into Win 11, but the system was otherwise stable. With the upade to the 572.16 driver, the flickering has disappeared and my system and graphics are stable (though no obvious improvement in graphics performance). FWIW.
Thanks for staying on this Jay.
Glad I bought a 4080 Super when I did. It's been great.
Preach
Me too. Got a PNY Verto OC for $929
its memory is better for oc than 4090
@@vindeiatrixI wish. I paid almost 1300$ for the msi pro on launch but I’m a competitive gamer so I’m going amd this generation
got a prebuilt with a 4070 super and it's been FANTASTIC. I would've kept my 1070 going for even longer but with all these ray tracing mandatory games I figured now was a good time to upgrade, and keeping a high end 40 series gpu seems like a way better choice than dealing with 50 series
PSA to check your 12VHPWR, no matter how long it's been up and fine. It could slowly be melting. I've had a 4090 for two years, and at the end of last year, it started crashing. I soon realized that my stock 12VHPWR cable had melted, after a long time. It had melted on the side I could not see from where the card is normally. And you best believe I always checked to make sure it was plugged in completely.
try to bump your pc when its reach max temp for an hour or two..if its stop working you have low melt solder holding your gpu..seems like verry cheap silicon lottery doomed to fail sooner than later..damn,i should buy that 4070ti..lol..now what
Ooooof.... have to ask.... do you have any sort of extended warranty on that GPU?
Im finna open up the case and the the 4080 super in yhe next few days its been running since April
These cables are shockingly poor design. It was a terrible idea to design a cable with 1.01 FOS to operate near failure... The worse the FOS, the more money they save.
@@EfrainMan the more they save,more we had to buy..excellent economy,on their side. Noone is at science's side anymore.
Remember, we are still waiting to see enough of them get enough use to reveal the almost inevitable overheating issues on the FE. No hotspot sensors on the die and some pretty damn hot memory is a "what could go wrong?" if there ever was.
this is after a gen or two in the past few years that had heinous memory hotspot issues.
Shameless really
You don't need a hotspot sensor when your entire GPU is a hotspot.
@jayztwocents in old school HW a driver can't burn a card. But currently, HW uses power/current control algorithms so, a faulty driver can configure a current level higher than what the card components are able to support and that would effectively burn
Glad I had a look at this! Cheers guys. I was just thinking that I've not had a GPU driver update in a while, but if it's affecting older cards as well I'm more tempted to leave well alone for now..
*The price of all MSI 5090s just went up 20-30% in price on their official website!!* 😢
If I cant get an msrp model, i just won't get one. $4040AUD is enough. Not spending more than that!
I'll just stay on my 4080 in that case
Tariffs just went into effect.
Asus ROG Astral 5080 just went from $1500 to $1650 on Asus website 😂 I was like “forget it!” And I just purchased the RTX A4500 because I need reliability for work, and I don’t like to be bullied by pricing.
@@Slizzo82 no way, really?
@@Slizzo82 Good.
It's like everything else that's released these days, be it hardware or software, it simply isn't ready to go.
Yeah, software companies have seen that many people still buy their buggy software or games immediately upon release, and no longer test their software properly, to save costs. It's easier to use the early buyers as unpaid beta-testers and fix the problems over time. And sometimes that takes years after the initial release.
The amount of problems the new driver causes on 40 series cards is pretty wild too, so many crashes, one of the few times I've actually rolled back to the previous version.
I noticed having any nvidia app or experience bs causes micro stutters and dropped frames so I just put the driver and it runs fine.
I literally only update when I have to. Nvidia screws up their drivers too often.
no problems on my 4070 ti super so far
My 4090 has ran perfectly fine with the new drivers. Not a single crash and I've probably put at least 20 hours into ff7 rebirth since installing the new driver
I've not had any trouble with the new driver on my Gigabyte 4080. I mostly play War Thunder on 4K, very high settings, but its running smoothly since driver update.
Jay, we do know that the melting cable issue(not including cable mod adapters) was primarily caused by user error, either they did not fully seat the plug or it got dislodged during cable management. Both are mistakes that are very easy to do and not notice. It can be attributed to poor design of the plug. Others experienced failure after repeatedly plugging and unplugging the connector to see if it melted. The plug has a low cycle life and this likely contributed to these failures, plus the cycling of unplugging and plugging led to an increased likelihood of the plug not being fully seated.
That is who they blamed. The cable is extremely poor design and they are still not 100% sure what is causing it. Some cables fully inserted still melted.
@@zack9912000 No it was clear case of the blame game aka blame user for bad design
I can forgive a $200 GPU for not being the best..... I won't forgive a 2k GPU.
You are going to ask that much money for an oversized space heater that fakes 2/3'rds of it's frames over a real GPU...... You better be on point with your A game.
nah ppl gonna buy it no matter what, their fanbase is huge, and nothing gonna change that
I've got a $250 card, no issues whatsoever. 😎
2k???? You mean 3-4k, the 5090 cannot be had ever at mrsp
@@LuminousSpaceconstant problems will eventually change this, never say never.....it's called wisdom
Lol literally every modern gpu has frame generation. Are all GPU's from the past 8 years fake gpus?
welding machine requires Thiiick braided copper cable to not melt while welding. And common welding only require less than 9V and around 50 - 80 A, which is around 600 to 900W. graphic card pulling 700W using 16Ga cable isn't very safe
But at least it looks stylish lol
And it's still placed in a stupid place making people do extreme bends with cables. Cause installing an angle connector would hurt their margins by 0.01$ per unit.
@@ThomasShatter yep bending tightly stacked high current cables under high load is an art of 🔥
yet they blame the customers when their poor designs are the cause.
Welding is more like around 20 volts and 100 amps depending on the process and material thickness. 50-80amps that's TiG welding razor blades or beer cans together.
@@brnmcc01 I used to stick weld, I got around 7v. Yes it varies, for thin 1mm metal, even 7v 30A will make a hole melting the metal as I am not a good welder. I never had a chance to experience Tig or mig welding.
Both people I've talked to who had the black screen post driver install on 50 series cards had a PCIe5 mobo. Switching back to PCIe4 fixed it for them temporarily, and in both cases upgrading mobo bios let them take it back to PCIe5.
The latest drivers black screened my 4080 super
@@disspatchergaming i updated to this new driver a couple days ago, then turned right around and rolled it back off this new driver, my rtx3060 still going strong.
That’s good to hear. I’m picking up my 5090 from Best Buy tomorrow and now I’m nervous lol
Had a black screen in KCD2 on my 3090 today after installing the new drivers. Something that almost never happens. Now was it the game or the drivers, I wonder...
@@alanshaw4655 i changed my pcie slot to gen 4 and rolled back the driver just to be safe
Why would anyone worry? It’s called the 50 series because there’s only 50 of each around the world….
I cant wait for the 60 series, I got chance!
50 series because everthing only got 50% done. we got a half lunch, half stock, and even half a driver, because it work with some and brick the other half xD
"Turns out this is a much wider issue affecting people on older gen NVIDIA cards too using 572.16 driver! Some people have been able to DDU away their issues but many have not and continue to experience issues even after rolling back their drivers!"
Before making that stupid comment, you should read the post put up by Jay. It Affects OLDER Cards as well.
It's called the 5090 series because that's what it costs.
My 3080 12gb ftw3 had black screen has crashing issues too. Rolled back my drives and it seems okay, I hope there isn’t any lasting effects
MSI Tomahawk X870 + MSI 5080 Ventus 3X OC. Same problems with PCI-e 5.0: stutters every 2-3 seconds, reboots, no any performance, even videos stutter like hell.
Switching to 4.0 completely fixes that.
Interesting to see what is the problem here...
That’s why I wait till the bugs are worked out, prices normalize, and stock returns to normal
wtf is normal
It's not just 5090's there are also reports of the same issue with the 5080's as well.
Yea happened to me on my rtx 5080. Sent back to retailer for rma
Hell I had driver issues with my 3080, fuckin killed my entire pc
Just mounted my 5080 and installed the driver this evening. Ran furmark a couple of times. Seems to be ok.
Knocking on wood.
@danh2716 what did you upgrade from ?
@ads3453 New build to work alongside my laptop with a mobile 3070. And while I do game, a large part of the addition was for the larger vram and dual stream hardware encode/decode of 10 bit 4.2.2 H265 in DaVinci Resolve.
I'm not worried, won't be buying one to replace my 4070ti... Next purchase will prb be a OLED gaming monitor.
Oled TV'S are cheaper and the LG C2 40" I'm using does 120hz.
I just got a Hisense U7N 65" 144hz vrr lots of gaming settings, great tv, and cheap. Just buy the extended warranty no matter which one you go with
Oled is the best upgrade you can make, absolutely blew my mind the first time i played cyberpunk on mine, much more impactful than a few more frames or a little raytracing.
Once you go OLED, you'll never go back
Maybe not a hardware failure but possibly a graphics card bios update that has a bug. Do we know if the card's bios is updated during driver installation of this version?
You say that ATX 3.0 is already outdated, but the difference between ATX 3.0 and ATX 3.1 is negligible and consists of a 16-pin cable (the pins themselves in ATX 3.1 are shorter than in ATX 3.0). The blocks themselves, if I'm not mistaken, are no worse than the updated ones.
In order to get “bricked” an GPU, you must have it. In the Netherlands, the 5000 series GPU’s are really hard to find and the 5090 costs around 4000 euros when is available.
Im from the netherlands and i managed to grab a 5090 fe by refreshing at exactly the right time haha. Just be lucky lol.
Wow 4k? At least I know the price. We are so getting scamed. Ik hou my 3090 wel langer dan lol
@@nahbro3240it is better... just ridiculous expensive
I m happy with my tuf rtx 4070tisuper
Haha, the 50 series. The series that keeps on giving... entertainment, drama, ridiculousness 😂 Can't wait for the melting stories
Ad revenue 🤣
for every 1 laugh, 3 more laughs are generated
Curious why you would laugh at people's hardware dying?
5090s are bricking? Oh no. How many of the 100 existing 5090s still work?
100? not that many were produced
Every day i get closer and closer to having a full AMD system
The same problem occured with the 4090, its due to the sense pins in the powecable signal that it sends not being picked up via the driver so windows does to recognise that a card is present. Quick fix would be to use power cables without the sense pins while you wait for Nvidia to fix their drivers.
Its hilarious how this always happens and every scalper doesn't accept returns. Too bad for those who paid 6000+ with no return policy 🤭
It’s only the Chinese variant of the GPUs, try watching the video.
@@brandononeal8307wow your so wrong, watch again
AMD cards are worth a try. looking forward to see what they release.
It just sucks that they only make mid range cards, their best card is about as powerful as a 4070ti
@@jaredchampagne2752 7900xt doesnt really have any problems playing anything. team red may be a better option with the upcoming amd cards. i see your side of it also. it would be nice to see something atleast a little more competitive to the 5080ti this time around.
@@jaredchampagne27527900xtx is within 10% of 5080 without RT but keep spewing nonsense and the 7900xtx are selling more then ever now
@@jaredchampagne2752 I could see them releasing an 800 series this generation after this nvidia launch tbh. Later in the year of course, 900/XTX seems unlikely with what they've said, maybe possible closer to the end of the generation if they do well tackling the mid range.
Love my 7900xtx. Trades blows with a 4090/5080 for the price of a 4070ti.
Truth to be told, my 3080 also went to black screen after installing the latest driver. Luckily, turning it off and then back on brought it back with no issues since then.
Exactly what happened to me and my 3070, it's the first time this has happened to me, it was very strange
@@betabars I went back to the previous drivers. I've always kept my drivers up to date, but I can't justify putting my 3070 at risk when its been running fine since launch.
My 3070ti did the exact same thing. I’ve got a 5080 ready to install, but now I’m hesitant to do it. Is this bricking problem for sure only affecting 5090?
You're lucky, my 3080TI went black screen and hasn't come back to life.
@@bobkohn1809 Use DDU [in safe mode] to clear all of the current geforce install then when you reinstall use the drivers from before this latest update and you should be fine.
Just a thought: years ago people figured out that unlocking the FPS limits gave some competitive advantages in CoD (no running sound, jumping for longer and so on).
One of the side effects when the limits were removed and the card ran for some minutes was the introduction of a permanent coil whine and, some of them, burning up. Maybe after installing the driver there is a time span where the cards perform a "runaway" on the desktop and actually burn up? No clue, just a thought!
More recently, I got no FPS limit in Stalker 2 during a loading screen where my 7900xt started a coil whining while the FPS counter indicated over 900 FPS.
I set a FPS limit after that and everything went back to normal so, it can still happen.
I still find it crazy that this issue caused enough of a buzz for Jay to do a video on it. Anyway, I was really struggling, but I was able to do a rollback. My issue was that when I updated to 572.16 I can no longer use a set up of three monitors. It was any combination of two and that was it very frustrating because I've gotten so used to using three. I did a rollback and now everything seems to work, but I was very concerned that I broke something.
IMO, this is a byproduct of the "move fast and break things" mantra in tech. Nobody is really taking the time to optimize what they have or make sure things work properly. Just moving forward without checking for cracks in the foundation for the sake of short-term profit.
Oh... Not Again.......
I am still Rocking my RT6700XT
My local MicroCenter has a brand new 6700XT in store. LOL!
7900 XT here, I could see myself using this card indefinitely because I don’t care about graphics anymore. All I care about is fun and engaging games.
I'm still running the 6700XT I overpaid for off of Marketplace right in the middle of the Great GPU Apocalypse in 2022. It was the least scalp-ish deal I could find after my trusty 1650 Super started artifacting and black-screening. My monitor is a 1080p panel, so I think I'll be good for a while, yet.
6700xt and 5700x3d, 😘👌, mwah
@@RedEverything I already feel that way and all I have is a 2060, lol. (I do have a 6950xt for a future build, but the only reason was for faster encoding in handbrake to lower file size on videos)
I think this is the soonest I've ever been recommended a video. Sponsorblock doesn't work yet :(
Same
be the change you want to see in the world
@HearMeLearn I would but I'm on mobile at the gym right now
Why aren’t people using a dab of dielectric grease on the 12 pin? It needs a bit of lube and you’ll never have an issue.
Also, 30 series was a joke. I was unfortunate enough to be the owner of the 3090 ftw3 ultra. She died within 3 months of gaming. RMA got me a replacement, but what a pain! $1600 for a product that ended up having a 40% failure rate or higher.
Never put grease on pins. dielectric grease is used on spark plug boots to stop the rubber from melting onto the porcelian, and also to seal connector gaskets to keep water out. It's non conductive (DIE electric).
This is a driver issue, not cable related
Thank you for touching on the term "bricking", it is SUPER annoying how people throw the term around now without using it proper.
Also read that some had to set it to pcie4. That’s a driver issue.
Me running a 5080 on 10th gen Mobo lol with no way to get pcie 5 bandwidth.
@pixelverdicts I know someone that still has 11900k and the 2080ti.
OH NOOO! 34 persons are worry because of this. Noone else beside reviewers have one.
5090D... "D" stands for DEATH
Perfect example of why you shouldn't just rush out and update a driver without waiting or doing research
As an IT I can confirm that this driver is the issue. Black screen will also happen on 3060/4060. A reset of the bios will fix this then downgrade the driver to 566.36
I’m blown away people buy these cards.
i stopped talking to my whole discord page because there buying 50series an being little rich goblins, shows you people arent really tech savy an just have money to flex
if a fictional video card takes a shit in the woods, does it make a fart sound?
Yes. It will sound pretty smooth but has some artifacts.
Yes, but only if the shit hits the cooling fans
New driver damn near "killed" my 4070ti Super
I been getting the blue screen of death since I updated
And u guys have all the BIOS, Chipset drivers up to date right…? 4080 Super here n have no issues with the latest update and never had before any of the previous updates at all.
@@Sunbazsi1 bro, stop. Do you really think that generic troubleshoot would fix this? Not only are people complaining about the Patch, but literally people are throwing up screenshots from phones to show people either the Blue Screen of Death or the Black Screen of Death. Ive gotten both since the patch. This patch is LITERALLY killing 40 series cards.
@@Illphaqup First of all im not your bro! Secondly i feel really sorry that many ppl experiencing such issues BUT as many or even the majority has zero problems with this new driver update! I was advising some things to check cause they can screw up a lot of stuff in our systems and btw lot of ppl still forget to update them…have a good one! Im done
My 3080TI died this week, reading these comments make my think it's related to the driver. I've haven't had issues for years then suddenly the screen goes black and I hear fans running at 100% and smelled the magic smoke..
ASRock X670E Pro RS, 32GB RAM, AMD 7900X, and Nvidia 4080FE running this driver with no issues. I did a DDU clean install before upgrading though as well. Every time I update my video driver I do it via DDU.
If they are already seeing this many issues with the 50 series, it doesn't bode very well since it was pretty much a paper launch anyway. The couple times I've looked I haven't been able to find a single 50 series card available at any retailer (except maybe MicroCenter but the closest one is a State away from me).
And ppl say AMD drivers cause issues.
This is why I stick with the old stuff. Stayed with the 1080ti until the 3000 series. Hesitated but bought one. Probably will stick with that for the next couple of years.
Literally updated my driver's yesterday so I was like "OH NO" then I saw it's just about 5090 and I was like "phew my 4090 is safe for once"
No, the pinned comment from Jay says its effecting older cards too!
@RiderOfKarma shit XD
This is exactly why I never by -f processors. You never know when something goes wrong with the video card and to do troubleshooting it can be very handy to have native video out on the MB. Makes trouble shooting so much easier if you have it.
I cannot play any unreal engine games without crashing. All other games are fine, but for whatever reason, all unreal engine games crash for me under this driver. I'm screwed anyway as it's the only driver with 5000 series support. This is nuts.
Have you tried the hotfix driver?
All new cutting edge tech have growing pains, I don't remember when a new product didn't. No amount of testing can cover the hundreds of combinations that are out there, never mind Windows 10/11 and the crap people have on their systems.
This is why early adopters are seen by most folks as plain dumb.... Imagine allowing yourself to be a dumb guinea pig 😂😂😂😂😂
der8auer had similar issues w/ a 5080 in one of his recent YT videos. Manually setting PCIe to 4.0 in BIOS solved his issue.
Definitely seems like a PCIe 5.0 stability/ signal integrity issue...
Sounds like some of the PCB components can't handle the sudden increase in power going through them, being instantly fried.
@@aprile1710 Sounds like you missed the part about some damage on the PCBs.
nope its not hardware, it is software
its both 5090 an 5090D read the title PCI 5.0 only, plus its other cards aswell which makes it worse, aka its not software its a driver that runs the pc, its a software component, completely different. ffs noobs 😅🤣😂😘
@aprile1710 applications are software, drivers are Software Components built to translate data an update dll files , two different words, terms. Like saying my car is a motorcycle. Both aren't the same.
I can come up with *several* ways a driver install can cause hardware damage, starting with increased power limits, firmware changes, marginal components getting more stressed (ISTR Nvidia using a power measurement method that doesn't actually measure the peaks as they happen)...
I can only speak to my experience, but I did the update tonight before seeing this, Asus tuf 3060, right after was getting screen flicker and taskbar was under my tabs page. Everything was still working, but something was def off. I saw this and reverted, not had an issue yet.
My rtx 3060 is drawing 5 percent more volts after this update too. Even when I undevolted it it draws 5 percdnt more than the limit I put on it. This driver is destroying my card
Lol I never updated mine , it's running fine lol . If it's not broke , don't try and fix it . It's the newest update I haven't bothered with . Gaming isn't even worth the money put into these days . Most games online suck .
@mehDOGIESRATS2222 I play hell let loose and enlisted so I get all the driver updates
@@Thomas_Angelo I do also man sometimes , haven't played enlisted in ages tho . I main Titanfall 2 and Isonzo , sure hells is good tho . Enlisted I played for years . I enjoy warzone and BF2042 sometimes also . I like tac shooters also .
@mehDOGIESRATS2222 yeah. Gaming unlike what people say is at its most variable position. Lots of good games to play
You are right man , heaps of good games apart from the cheaters tho . Too many games these days tbh . I enjoy my acoustic guitar more tbh . The guitar is amazing , always something new to learn .
"If you're not sure what the 'D' is.." and within .000005 milliseconds of hearing that I said "Giggity".
Well done.
I just mentioned this mere fact in a discussion about pc gaming headaches. That a simple driver can be a GPU’s undoing. These cards cost too much for that.
Thats why you dont buy at launch
@@nightruler666 thats why you dont buy nshitia.
There was an Nvidia launch?
Looks like my 4080 Super just went up in value... Cha-Ching!!!
regard.
8:35 in 2025 even GPU doesn't identify themselves as GPU 🥲
And there are still people who prefer to trash AMD's drivers
@aprile1710 Wrong. Drivers can very well damage the hardware, but I would like to read your thinking process for your statement
7900xtx owner here, regret it every day, too many hidden issues. Should have waited for 4080super, though at the time there was no guarantee 4080 super would lower the price.
@@edgarvoneverec2544 best to sell it now then had my 7900xtx up for sale for awhile now and have not received as much interest until this past week, people want to buy it now since stock is low everywhere for newer cards so sell yours?
Still haven't had a single issue with my XTX that's been OC'd since I got it about 2 years ago
@@edgarvoneverec2544 sure buddy.
J, you are so smart dude definitely a driver issue can cause a hardware issue you have to think about it. The software tells the hardware what to do just like you driving in your race car. You’re the driver if you pull it too far to the right you’re gonna go off the road put it too far left. You’re gonna go off the road. It’s a simple analogy, but the software can definitely create a huge issue.
The latest driver also made my 3090 slow way down. It made my boot time go from seconds to minutes, and games were stuttering and crashing. Everything is fine now that I reverted to the previous (566.36) driver.
So, you start off by complaining about media sources using unsubstantiated rumors as Clickbait to get reviews, but then you contribute to the problem by doing the exact same thing with your title. You can do better! You have just contributed to the spreading of this rumor. Congrats
This is so true. I'm so tired of these UA-camrs complaining about rumors and clickbait articles while there is a clickbait title and thumbnail in their own video. At least put a little asterisk at the end of the title that is a rumor ffs