AirWaves Episode 37: Sirio Performer 5000 Antenna, Assembled & Tested!
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- Buzz assembles and tests his new Sirio Performer 5000, 10 & 11 meter, magnetic mount antenna. The antenna is teamed up with his Uniden Bearcat 980 SSB, and compared to his previous Radio Shack antenna, with a 25 mile radio check.
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I have a 5000 and like it very much. On ssb I spoke to a fellow in England from Western MA clear as a bell.
Great video - easy to understand :-) Thinking of getting one but I need to mount it on my fender because it is a motorhome.
I’ve just purchased this antenna and I’ve subscribed
I'm surprised that your LED display has not failed you yet. Many of use just out of warranty has gone blacked out and Uniden won't do anything.
Ok that makes sense, good move. I got brave and put holes in my roof for the CB and for the ham radio. I put the CB antenna in the center of the roof for when we travel with the RV and I put the hole for the ham antenna back towards the 3rd brake light. With the permanent mount I got a fantastic ground plane and the performance increase over the magnet was soooo much better it was amazing. From now on, I will always do a permanent mount. I figuered if I paid 54K for the truck, I could drill all the holes in it that I wanted to. If you are still looking for a better install just remember to get a professional mount. I used the commerical fire truck set up (because it came with like 30' of ultra low loss coax , that I could cut after the coax was routed and not come up short).
Because I paid so much for my truck, I couldn't bare to cut a hole in it,.
@@Airwaves-Radio Like I said my truck was $54K +++, so since I spent all that much on it, I can put all the holes in it I want to.
Great antenna i have the same one I run with the same uniden 980 I just have rm italy kl203 kicker on mine as well and it is a excellent performing set-up
Nope, but the other guy was on a base station, at 2,600 feet above sea level, and I'm about 2,500.
I purchased a Performer 5000 back in 2014. I really liked the design and performance. However, after it was mounted on the roof of my pickup with the magnet mount, the chrome plated metal showed severe corrosion. Lots of pitting. I had it replaced under warranty, and the replacement suffered the same corrosion issues as the first around the six month mark. The chrome plated metal (brass) appeared to be "pot metal" . I would be willing to give this antenna another go if it were made from stainless steel. I also had the same results with the Turbo model. I now run a Sirio Twin -Log 5 footer. That one is constructed with stainless steel. I would rather run a steel whip like the Performer or Turbo, but have settled on the fiberglass Twin Log series for now.
Jimmy, After reading your post, I went out and removed the locking lever from the base of my antenna, to examine it closely. The threads appear to be stainless steel, not brass. Perhaps Sirio has fixed that issue. I keep my truck under a carport, so it's not out in the elements that much, but I'll keep an eye on it and let you know if I see any pitting in the future.
We have just bought the Sirio Performer 5000 antenna for our mobile operations. We will soon put it to the test on our Range Rover and Ford RV, but it does sound like it performs well.
Nice! I have one too and love it. Only thing that sucks is coax is too short. Oh well..barrel connector and more coax.
I think your supposed to install the rubber boot along with the metallic decal on the bottom of the mount. That’s how I interpreted the instructions.
Yes, I agree, but I wanted a solid metal to metal mount.
@@Airwaves-Radio Definitely solid!!!
That boot just weakens the hold onto the metal. I was barely hitting a limb and knocking it off. Which resulted in a damaged coax. I replaced the coax with some better quality mini 8 at 18ft and got a 1.1 SWR match. I'm pumping a Texas Star 500 thru it in my truck and a superstar elite 400 in my car with no issues touching skip land
Thanks a lot for this review! How does it ship, folded in a circle or in a long package?
Awesome video thanks for sharing!! I was looking for something good to use I had bought a Wilson 5000 only lasted a year it was one of the new ones that they are making poor quality I must say, for the set up you have what would something like that cost thank you again 73’s from WWS1185 western Newfoundland Canada 🇨🇦
The Bearcat SSB was $225, and the antenna with shipping was about $100.
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Hi Air waves, FYI I have my original Performer 5000 on a modified Sirio Magnet with LMR240 coax, mini-8 double shield (100% foil shield with 98% braid over the foil and 20 yr outer jacket). I keep that for a loaner and I have a President Bill ASC (european export model) to go with it, if someone is traveling with me. The President Bill ASC is about the size of one of those special size packs of cigarettes that holds 25 cigarettes (it is tiny). It doesn't have weather like the US model, but it is capable of FM mode and if you boot it up in I think Dutchland mode, it will do 80 channels, 1-40 is the same as US channels 1-40, then channels 41-80 on the display is 40 channels below channel 1 up to one channel below channel 1. I have a new Turbo 5000 mounted through the roof of my 2017 Silverado.
Nice setup.
Hey there Air Waves, I installed this identical antenna and mount on my 14 ford fusion and love it, far superior receive to my stryker a10. I did however want to tell you my mag mount came with the vinyl sticker AND a rubber protective boot like most mag pucks come with. I installed it on mine and didnt affect the performance at all. Also keeps alot more water out as it comes up around the edge with a tight sealing lip. Just wanted to pass it forward and happy DX'ing 477 MKE Wisconsin.
Sirio Fighter 5000 PL Red is the one for me ..Thanks Oh is there a cover cap for mount if you remove Antenna so dirt/water will not get in it?
Yes, there is a rubber boot. I keep it in the truck, but I never take the antenna off.
Wonder how this would match up against a Stryker A10 mag mount…
If they made this in an NMO mount, I'd buy one. I'm not pulling headliner and replacing the mount every time I want to swap antennas, and I'm definitely not switching to an SO-239 or a 3/8 threaded base like a lot of CB antennas use...
It's a very large antenna, may be too much wind drag for NMO mount.
@@Airwaves-Radio It doesn't get any stronger than NMO mount. If its too much drag for that, its only a base antenna
I went from the mag mount to a NMO with a adapter. Works great! Used a Breedlove 3” NMO/ring terminal. Also a 7x7 plate under the headliner so no flex at all!!! Solid!!!
@@rallypoint1 I considered using adapters, but I'd rather not. Big plate underneath the liner is a great idea.I could zap one up there with the welter, be electrically 1 piece. Needs paint anyway.
NMO mount won't handle this weight. Ask Einstein...atleast not on a semi dump
Just bought my 2nd one but can’t tune any better than 1:4. My other antenna I tuned to 1:1.
I have the fighter 5000 same antenna does the small part that screws in the 259 shows short is that right my magnet shows no short until I plug in that part not the antenna it shows short
Sorry, I don't follow what you're saying. You shouldn't have a short anywhere on the antenna.
@@Airwaves-Radio ok I got the info thanks
Well it's been 2 years now do you still use this same antenna? I'm curious if that magnetic would hold on top a SUV going 60 mph. Always enjoy your videos Thanks
I still have the antenna, but I traded the F-150, for a Jeep Gladiator. The Jeep has a non-metal roof, so I cannot use the magnet mount on the Jeep. The magnet on the Sirio is still very strong and I'm sure would not come off a vehicle, at any speed
@@Airwaves-Radio Nice! Appreciate the info! I googled CB Antenna mounting brackets for Jeep Gladiator & they make a Large variety of various style mounts.
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@@miguelsalami I have a dual band HAM radio in the Jeep, with an antenna mounted to a light bracket mount on the hood. Works and looks very good. I bought a Uniden handheld CB to carry in the Jeep and an after market extendable antenna for it. At some point I may add a mobile CB radio to the Jeep, but mounting space is very limited. I considered installing an overhead rack, but I have a sunshade mounted for when I take the roof panels off. Can't use the rack with the sunshade. I'm still weighing if I want to give up the sunshade for the rack Overhead rack isn't really practical for mounting radios, as you can't see the display, and controls are hard to reach.
@@Airwaves-Radio Chrysler engineers should have thought about this as most Jeep owners have CBs. My CB in the 3rd generation 4Runner is just wedged between the passenger seat bolster & the center console makes it easy to switch out radios!
What's the gain on it
Couldn't get the Sirio to match on their magnet mount. The antenna matches fine on it's own.
It was a Sirio mount? Where did you mount it?
@@Airwaves-Radio It was indeed the large Sirio magnet-mount. It was set in the center of the roof of my Grand Cherokee. Matched fine on the Wilson mag-mount, just not the Sirio.
@@125southernnh2 I would suggest you check the impedance at the radio end of the coax, with the Sirio mount and antenna all in line. If you're not getting close to 50 ohms, then you'll need to adjust the length of the steel whip. My antenna/mount was adjusted correctly from the factory, but I have a different configuration than you. Since my truck body is aluminum, I had to mount it to a steel toolbox.
Hi Air Waves, Great Video. Just curious, What area of the country are you in? I knew I was lucky to get 5 miles in congested S. Fl (with a Wilson 1000). I am now easily hitting 15+ in E. Tn with the same Wilson 1000. I am only curious as I am very familiar with both your old and new antennas. And unless you have un obstructed line of site (like mountain top to mountain top) the Radio Shack mag mount is known to NEVER perform, so you are lucky. I am a huge fan of the Sirio 5000. If you are willing to do a test, move the magnet to the roof of your pick up, you will be totally amazed at the increased performance with getting the coil above the roof line. I had a Performer 5000, it was quieter than the Wilson and out performed it also. I just ordered another Sirio, the Turbo 5000 to replace the Wilson with. FYI I have a permanent hole mount on the roof of my truck. I am always running a low power radio with less than 4 watts (but it works) and I was always impressed with the Sirio's, thats why I am getting another one. The only issue I have with the Sirio's is that they do not come with a Static ball or static tip like the Wilson at the top of the whip (I will probably install one). I am an old guy and I also still have a Lafayette Rangemaster ll mobile antenna in use on a magnet mount that I use as a loaner to keep in touch with people I travel with.
I live in the mountains of western North Carolina. My truck has an aluminum body, so the magnet mount won't work on the roof can. That's why I bought a steel tool box.
Hey, I just read your comment there. Look I love my sirio 5000, but mine has a static "ball" on the end, its rubber. I bought it brand new, in Ireland. Alls good, 73s to you both
Won't out talk your Wilson
@@Airwaves-Radio Aluminum "OUCH"
@@Life-of-Bluegrass_Music I have been on CB since 1968. I also owned a CB Shop in the 1970's during the CB Boom, additionally I am a ham. In order of performance. The K40 will ALWAYS be the quietest and the best on RX PERIOD! **Note when tuning the K40 ALWAYS keep the whip section 1/8" - 1/4" from bottoming out (there is a spark gap at the bottom that will be very obvious) especially if you are running power. The Sirio Turbo 5000 and the Sirio Performer 5000 will ALWAYS be the second quietest on RX and the Absolut BEST on TX performance period. Although the coil on the Wilson 5000 will handle more power than the Wilson 1000, the Wilson 1000 will ALWAYS outperform the Wilson 5000 on RX and TX PERIOD!! Both the Sirio Turbo 5000 and the Performer 5000 will ALWAYS outperform them all on TX!!!! The jury is out on which fold over option Sirio you will choose. The K40 has a shorter life span due to water eventually getting into the coil. The Wilson's will last much longer than the K40 before water intrusion becomes an issue. There are other antennas that I will give honorable mention to. The Hustler HQ 27 is an AMAZING performing antenna on 40 channels, however it is not very forgiving as far as being very broad banded, same with the Lafayette Rangemaster ll. Have fun finding a vintage Mobile Moonraker or a Lafayette Rangemaster ll, but the HQ27 and the Rangemaster ll are also Amazing top notch performing antennas.
just what I think is wrong, it's sirio not being like Santiago who could open and reinforce
How does it compare to a Wilson 5000
I've never used a Wilson, so I can't comment.
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Put it on the roof...It will tx/rec even better and without cab reflect and less directional..
Truck is aluminum, so magnetic mount won't stick. Don't want to put a whole in the roof for NMO mount.
There is a 3/8s adapter (made by sirio)so that you can use any antenna..Buy the sirio trucker version so that coil is raised..Getting reflect back there..Trucker version has a base shaft roughly 6_10" taller which raises coil and it should increase tx/rec..
You must be running a linear to reach 25 miles
I wasn't using an amp, but the other guy was. He was on a base station. If you notice in the video, I ask him if he's barefoot? His response should give it away.
Think GROUND PLANE people . 🤔 this dego needs a bonded / ground chuck plane .
What's the DB gain?
a 1\2 wave ground plane will have 2 db gain over a 1\4 wave gp and a 5\8 wave will have 3 db gain over a 1\4 wave gp. Sirio doesn't offer any specs on DB gain. Because the coil winding adds to the length of the vertical whip, I'm not sure of the actual electrical length of the antenna, and therefore the actual gain of the antenna. I'll see if I can get more info from Sirio, but I doubt the gain is more than 3dbi.
@@Airwaves-Radio I tried to send emails to them with no response, It's not a big deal just wondering if you knew what it was, K2 hercules claims 7dbi and it's the same design
I'd be happier using a triple mag mount at high speeds.
put it on your roof in the center bet you get 6 s units
Magnet mount won't stick to the aluminum body. Don't want to punch a hole for NMO mount.
Over 90% of your power is lost thru the coil. There's no such thing as a low loss coil. Unless you use a capacitor hat then you only lose 85%
Anything is better then a radio shack antenna. 1 db gain tho isn't worth that money. You should of bought a real antenna, like a Wilson.