definitely one of the best shapers currently on the market! i would have liked more info on the slalom and freerace boards because it would have been easier for me to decide between them
Love this series… great format Ben! I watch one every night, kind of relaxing and downshifting, yet a nice digestible piece of information. It’s just so good, just never stop posting these 😊
Love to hear Patrik explain the shapes of his board and how fins, sails, mast and boards work together and how 'optimal' depends on how and where you want to sail. I could see myself sail on Patrik stuff exclusively, if the prices were a lot lower and the boards weren't made at Cobra.
Very valuable series. The exhibitors on site didn't present anything to me in such detail😁. Patrik is likeable because he doesn't have the answer to everything, but overall he has the most broad experience and possibly the largest model range. I've never driven a Patrik and didn't know where to test it.
i think in horizontal movement you should shape the board from front to back as a wing to optimize ground-effect when flying and eventually increase the speed ??
I have a question as someone who has absolutely no idea about foil-boards, and still thinks that lightwind fin-windsurfing should be a thing: would it be possible to use a foil board with any volume (yes, I am also an amateur, which is why I still use volume ;) ), put a long fin (i.e. 60cm+) in it and use a large sail to use it for the days with too little wind for planing on regular fin-equipment, or is the shape and aero/hydrodynamics of a foil board so different that it would not go properly? Because I think that the foil boards resemble the formula boards a lot, and when you look at some light wind boards of some brands, the rough shape of the boards are comparable (imo). Will this setup go planing at all, or is the underwater shape of a foil board just not designed for non-foiling/regular planing? Would be interesting to hear what a shaper thinks about that, from a physics/hydrodynamics point of view contra the selling point of view.
Im not an expert at all but if i remember it correctly the nose of a foil board points more up compared to other boards to avoid nosedives when landing. Im not sure how this Will affect the fin performance, but it is one of the differences between a fin board and a foil board. The iqfoil board also came with a fin to start with (but i dont Think they do anymore), so i Think you should be able to do fin sailing om a foilboard. But as i Said i am not even close to being an expert in this stuff
Hallo zusammen; windsurfboards nicht mehr nach Volumen sondern nach der Breite zu „ karakterisiern- sortieren“ kann mittlerweile für den Durchschnittskunden oder Durchschnittwindsurfer nach hinten losgehen. Neue almoderne boards sind werden mittlerweile so breit und gleichzeitig so dünn gebaut plus kürzer, das man trotz der großen breite Probleme beim shotstart,beim anfahren und beim wenden hat. Bei meiner Aussage blicke ich auf 35 Jahre Trententwicklung im Board Design zurück. Grundsätzlich wurden die boards immer kürzer und breiter . Ich glaube im Moment ärgert mich die kürze mehr als die Breite . Es hätte vielleicht so um 2013 jemand Bescheid sagen sollen, dass die Boards nun kurz genug sind. Ich persönlich brauche nicht unbedingt ein Board das 220cm kurz ist. 235cm ist,glaube ich meine persönliche schmerzgrenze nach unten. Dann hat der shaper auch noch Platz für eine vernünftige rockkerline und muss sich nicht mehr soviel Kopfzerbrechen um den Radius (scoop) der dem geraden Strich ( gleitfläche) folgt, machen.
need more time with patrik....fuck foiling....we want more in depth about wave, fsw, cross and freeride boards because most people ride that and not preformance foil garbage
Well, depends on where you are. For windsurfing on gusty lakes, foiling is an absolute game changer. Patrik as his own brand ambassador is really doing the trick for me. Good marketing and I actually know a bit more now, about foiling.
@@hajda7370 there is plenty of wave content around. Give people a break. I thought it was an entertaining yet enlightening clip. Enjoy the content you get windsurfing needs to be a broad church, as it is quite niche already.
Just coz you’re no good at foils and don’t enjoy it, doesn’t mean others are the same mate. Foils have revolutionised windsurfing so that people can sail almost 365 days a year coz when there’s wind you can fin and if there’s no wind you can foil.
I want Patrik as german chancelor, minister of foreigns, -finance, and -science. He would easily be better than the current, he just needs to drop wing development.
He is really focust to the details.. Talks surfing no bullshits he knows what he is Talking about. 🤙
PATRIK is outathisworld...what passion for his products!!!
Absolutely love these series! Nice to put a face behind the name of every brand
definitely one of the best shapers currently on the market! i would have liked more info on the slalom and freerace boards because it would have been easier for me to decide between them
This man , Patrik, is amazing! I WANT HIS BOARDS
It was a pleasure to listen Mr Patrik.
Patrik has risen up with a fully comprehensive range! Love the explanations and honesty. No nonsense.
Patrik definetly knows what he is doing. Thanks for the precise explanation. 👍
Love this series… great format Ben! I watch one every night, kind of relaxing and downshifting, yet a nice digestible piece of information. It’s just so good, just never stop posting these 😊
Very nice to hear how passionate and well thought through the products are!
Now those Defi boards look like a bit of fun! What a range of gear!
Loving this series, Ben. It's interesting to learn about the latest evolutions in windsurfing.
More Patrik please! It's so interesting
Patrik is gold. Love the in depth info!
Impressive Patrik, so funny and tons of knowledge about the equipment! Grate report Ben 😊😊
So passionate 😊. And I want to say that the Patrick beginner boards are the best we ever used for teaching windsurfing. (and wing handling)
Love to hear Patrik explain the shapes of his board and how fins, sails, mast and boards work together and how 'optimal' depends on how and where you want to sail. I could see myself sail on Patrik stuff exclusively, if the prices were a lot lower and the boards weren't made at Cobra.
Incredible! Even a formula board! Keep it up Patrik!
Tons to think about and Patrik is a very entertaining educator! Love the case he made for the Defi boards (not least because they're fin boards!)
Thanks for the video. This man is a crazy worker oh my god !
I'm sticking Patrik at the top of the list of people I'd like to have a beer with.
Why does the Defi board go better upwind but acceleration is worse ? Which shape details are responsible for these characteristics ?
Very valuable series. The exhibitors on site didn't present anything to me in such detail😁. Patrik is likeable because he doesn't have the answer to everything, but overall he has the most broad experience and possibly the largest model range. I've never driven a Patrik and didn't know where to test it.
Wow! Thanks for sharing with us, loads of hints to reflect on!
So knowledgeable and great to listen to
Fabulous interview.
I've learned a lot from this video. Please consider more in depth technical videos!
Windsurf / foil professor . When this man speaks I pay attention
Ce mec est absolument passionnant !
Incredible work 😳🙏💪
one word and one word only - EPIC!!!
So informative love it. 👍🙂
Terrific and insightful!
Defi boards look awesome! Can you elaborate on the shape.
i think in horizontal movement you should shape the board from front to back as a wing to optimize ground-effect when flying and eventually increase the speed ??
He really knows his shit, super interesting stuff.
No, he is not a legit engineer. It starts with the harness. Load transfer is the motor behind very sailing vessel.
Great video like to hear everthing that Mr Patrick has to say
Patrik Diethelm
15:11 True/ I had a phone call with him and it took omre than an hour. But ir was worth every single second.
We need to tell us about fin as well!!!
Moin Ben! Today right in time
It will take a while, but then you will have something. Very interesting.
Very interesting, BUT almost nothing on Fins slalom 😰😰
I have a question as someone who has absolutely no idea about foil-boards, and still thinks that lightwind fin-windsurfing should be a thing: would it be possible to use a foil board with any volume (yes, I am also an amateur, which is why I still use volume ;) ), put a long fin (i.e. 60cm+) in it and use a large sail to use it for the days with too little wind for planing on regular fin-equipment, or is the shape and aero/hydrodynamics of a foil board so different that it would not go properly? Because I think that the foil boards resemble the formula boards a lot, and when you look at some light wind boards of some brands, the rough shape of the boards are comparable (imo). Will this setup go planing at all, or is the underwater shape of a foil board just not designed for non-foiling/regular planing? Would be interesting to hear what a shaper thinks about that, from a physics/hydrodynamics point of view contra the selling point of view.
Im not an expert at all but if i remember it correctly the nose of a foil board points more up compared to other boards to avoid nosedives when landing. Im not sure how this Will affect the fin performance, but it is one of the differences between a fin board and a foil board.
The iqfoil board also came with a fin to start with (but i dont Think they do anymore), so i Think you should be able to do fin sailing om a foilboard. But as i Said i am not even close to being an expert in this stuff
I tried it and it didn't feel right.
How many boards per model do they have to sell to be profitable?
Nice Ben, but a bit more attention to PD his windsurfing /fin equipment! 👍🏻😉
Machine, thats the word 😀
lol, more Patrik!
What´s about riding swell boards from Patrik? Maybe the Patrik Foil A.I.O. WS?
no matter each and every quality brand, Ben Proffitt is the Best!!!
So that is the Defi nitive board?
Hallo zusammen; windsurfboards nicht mehr nach Volumen sondern nach der Breite zu „ karakterisiern- sortieren“ kann mittlerweile für den Durchschnittskunden oder Durchschnittwindsurfer nach hinten losgehen. Neue almoderne boards sind werden mittlerweile so breit und gleichzeitig so dünn gebaut plus kürzer, das man trotz der großen breite Probleme beim shotstart,beim anfahren und beim wenden hat. Bei meiner Aussage blicke ich auf 35 Jahre Trententwicklung im Board Design zurück. Grundsätzlich wurden die boards immer kürzer und breiter . Ich glaube im Moment ärgert mich die kürze mehr als die Breite . Es hätte vielleicht so um 2013 jemand Bescheid sagen sollen, dass die Boards nun kurz genug sind. Ich persönlich brauche nicht unbedingt ein Board das 220cm kurz ist. 235cm ist,glaube ich meine persönliche schmerzgrenze nach unten. Dann hat der shaper auch noch Platz für eine vernünftige rockkerline und muss sich nicht mehr soviel Kopfzerbrechen um den Radius (scoop) der dem geraden Strich ( gleitfläche) folgt, machen.
Hey Ben, the mic is missing the goggly eyes! They’ve been missing for a while. Time to come back!
From the Aerodynamik point of View May the tail has a bigger influence
need more time with patrik....fuck foiling....we want more in depth about wave, fsw, cross and freeride boards because most people ride that and not preformance foil garbage
Well, depends on where you are. For windsurfing on gusty lakes, foiling is an absolute game changer. Patrik as his own brand ambassador is really doing the trick for me. Good marketing and I actually know a bit more now, about foiling.
@@slickvisualpoetry more people sails in sea than lake but this patrik videos are 99% foil and 1% fin "information"
@@hajda7370 there is plenty of wave content around. Give people a break. I thought it was an entertaining yet enlightening clip. Enjoy the content you get windsurfing needs to be a broad church, as it is quite niche already.
Just coz you’re no good at foils and don’t enjoy it, doesn’t mean others are the same mate. Foils have revolutionised windsurfing so that people can sail almost 365 days a year coz when there’s wind you can fin and if there’s no wind you can foil.
@@mintoxace5571 although I just tend to go for a smaller sail or a smaller wing to stay on foiling gear.
I want Patrik as german chancelor, minister of foreigns, -finance, and -science. He would easily be better than the current, he just needs to drop wing development.
Isn't he Swiss lol
@@robmain9921 Yes, but people with special trades can be germanized very quickly and also keep all their other nationalities.