Apple Mac Mini M2 16gb RAM 256 SSD: Returning !!!
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
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Testing the Mac Mini M2 with 16 GB of ram and 256 GB memory. These are my thoughts on the Base vs the Pro M2 Mac Mini. I returned the Base but maybe you should not...
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Unnecessary overthinking and overspending in my opinion. You can edit 8k videos even on the base model M2 8RAM so 16RAM was more than enough, and for the time that resolution becomes the norm I'm pretty sure most people will be on their 3rd+ workstation upgrade already. Even 4k youtube videos have been on the edge of overkill for 13 years and I don't see that changing anytime soon. People let that 1400MB/s SSD benchmarks and clickbait youtubers like Max tech get in their heads too much, but in the real world it's a really powerful machine that will last many many years. And it's so cheap you won't even care about it holding value in 6+ years, most people will be tempted to buy a new one before it starts lagging with the same "future proofing" thoughts and that's how Apple makes their profits lol.
Good points.
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I completely disagree on the RAM, but you’re point on with the disk speed being a total non-issue even for very demanding video editing.
@@apocryphal_man you disagree on 16gb ram is enough? Unless you work for Pixar and for some reason they make you work on your Mac mini at home it should be more than enough for the average professional
I was worried about the ssd until I transferred my Lisbon 20gb trip in less than 30s on my base MmM2. No idea what the nerds are on about, but it’s clickbait.
My iMac mid 2011 died, I bought a mac mini 24 Gig 1tb drive. I do basic things most of the time. I also do some graphic design and press work as well. I also dabble in video editing but nothing really in HD. I hope it works out. I keep computers till they die. My other computer before that was a DDM G4.
Not only is 8k not going mainstream anytime soon, but because of how much memory and bandwidth streaming 4K takes, UA-cam is about to have to charge to watch videos in 4K at which point most people will be fine with just reg FHD
I will be posting a short of the FCP rendering speed of this video. So a 20 min video to 264 4k. Hint: minimal.
I agree, if I get two years out of a 600 - 799 computer, I'm good. Even then, if it gets replaced it will then be relegated to media server as it get replaced. My machines get a total of 5 to 10 years this way. Typically in "use and production" for 2 years, then becomes unit that serves, not a daily driver, but super useful and in service. I then typically donate the one that the other replaces to a Maker Space or school. I think a good dictional pick, do you need to edit video? Do you use a lot of effects/transitions? Do you multitask ALOT? Do you care about time? For me its for light editing, I am not a heavy multitasker (premier, aftereffect, PS, AI all running at same time type), I don't have massive edits and effects, and I do not mind waiting a few more minutes to save 50%. A MUST is 16 GB regardless. Also, I just got a bottom hub, with M.2 1 TB drive and paid 150.00. Smarter upgrade than paying for upgraded, faster, storage from Apple.
Great points. After the newness wears off its does not matter that much however the 4 USBC ports are all being used so for me I am glad I got the Pro.
@@ScottsReviews Yea extra ports are key, esp if doing lots of media transfer. I ordered one to use Picture By Picture on my ultrawide so I can run windows and mac. Good review! Cheers.
i love how you and your heckler where the mic the same way! :) but great video, very informative
I use the M1 Mac mini and love it! I went with the 16 and 500gb
Wowww. Great to know 👌
24gb ram and 256gb vs 16gb and 500gb? which one you recommend?
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@@youtubeitisisntit7333 you always can add external SSD. Ram is soldered.
Would you recommend mac mini m2 16gb and 512gb storage or m2 24gb and 256gb storage as both cost same?
As a UA-camr, you might as well upgrade, but I would suggest others wait for the 3nm process chips rather than buying the last of the 5nm process chips.
I have researched this extensively lately: 1. Denoise is GPU constrained, so more GPU core will do better, 2. Macs sucks at denoise anyway, so a professional channel said they moved to half PC from Mac, 3. Disk speed is not a constraint on 4k video editing, I moved finalcut library and output all to an external SanDisk extreme at 500MB/s speed， no impact on speed at all, 4. In the end, you can get 2TB external Thunderbolt 4 SSD for about $300 at 2700MB/s same as internal SSD speed so definitely no need to upgrade storage
for editing external is better a ssd with 1000mbs our 500mbs speed *?
@@ruimonteiro5141 The difference is negligible, I think it's CPU/GPU constrained. Even 500MB/s means it's writing at speed faster than the playback speed.
So this means 256 is better than the 512? the difference is not noticable? because I plan to get the 16 gb ram/512 one soon, thanks.
@AG0. No, it just means it makes not much difference in video editing and export, but sure 512 gives you generally faster app run time performance, whether it's noticeable depends on your application.
@@CO8848_2 So at what point does it become noticable? For the meanwhile I plan on doing promo contents for businesses, most likely less than 5 mins. I want to have flexibility for wedding photo and videography as well as shorter 25 min short film capacity.
So the question I have is have you shifted from your initial plan on having a homework computer for the kids - OR, is another computer for you? I think its obvious isn't it. Using your analogy of do you drive the little Honda or the Corvette? - You are already "Driving the Corvette" with the M1 MacBook Pro specked up as a treat to yourself. How can you ever go back to the Honda and getting the "driving" experience to put a smile on your face. It ain't going to happen. In reality the M2 Mac mini with 16gb Ram is perfect for your kids and isn't going to break and should last 5-8 years before it becomes a dinosaur - (even the base 256 SSD and 8GB Ram should suffice). Save your money and upgrade to a MacBook Pro M3 Chipped model when it arrives. That will edit multiple layers of 6-8k video. Now that will put a smile on your face. Just my opinion Scott.
I would 100% spend extra money on an upgraded computer so I can play more Call of Duty 😂
I got emotional seeing your love for your cute little daughters , wife & family 👌.
God bless the beautiful family 🙏🏻
Thanks for the review on M2 mac mini. Loved your content & subscribed your channel 😊
Thanks for your great video.. do you recommend buying base mini m2 to learn aftereffect? I am beginner.. thanks
If you're an average user who never does video the Mac mini is great ! Future proof it - go Mac min Pro with extra ram for less than $1,000 more. Mac Studio m2 is just too much $$ for regular person - overkill.
I will get a Studio when I get 100k subs, so never getting one :)
Have my MacBook Air M1 8gb ram 8gpu and 512ssd connected to Dell Monitor 34” wide. I am good no issues
Great skit at the beginning, just found your channel, instant sub!
Thanks !!
People are keep talking about 4k but does anyone on UA-cam see's video in 4k ??
I do on my desktop. Ha
@@ScottsReviews maybe you are seeing video in 4k , but my point is that most of the people on UA-cam can't even afford to watch video on 720p .
I do not. 1440 max. I do not have 4k display. And in my 2nd world country internet is too slow sometimes to even watch HD :(.
But I record 4k/6k and upload 4k on YT (not always).
You’re right, majority of the ppl watch the videos in 720p or 1080p max but you can easily make out the difference in quality when you’re watching a 4k video in 1080p vs a 1080p video in 1080p… try this out yourself and you’ll notice a lot of difference
I watch majority of UA-cam at 720p and rarely at 1080p. Don't want to use my bandwidth CAP on lousy UA-cam videos.
As for TV streaming the highest, I use is 1080p. I don't know many that can afford 4K bandwidth with CAPs in place.
I am slow and cheap. Proud of it. Kinda. I really enjoyed the intro.
I'm somewhat torn between this and m2 pro base. But. I think I want the bigger/faster drive. And therefore the price is too close. But then I say I have a 1tb external drive... LOL. I just don't know.
That’s the old Apple stepladder it’s just so close to the next level.
Nice video man! I’ve made my choice, I will go with the 16GB and 512 storage! Only gonna be me using this device, so I think I will be good! In the future I want to jump to the studio but for now since I went back to school, I will take this choice for the next 2 years max!
2tb nvme chip + 40gbs external housing is slightly cheaper than the 512 storage and slightly faster than the built in 256. I'm using one right now and it's great to have an m2 with 16gb ram and 2tb of lightning fast storage for the same price.
Have you bought it? How is it? Trying to get the same spec for light work, light gaming, some photo/video editing but hoping that the 16GB will be future proof for the next 5-8 years. Looking forward to hear from you!
Plan to update to M3 next year!
Not me. Ha
maybe late next year if not 2025
Your thoughts. Mac Mini 16gb Ram With 512gb ssd. Only to be used for multicam video editing in Resolve . Being used with ATEM Mini Pro ISO.
I just got the Mac Studio with the M1 Max base model with the 1 TB ssd, I just started working on my next video and I use iMovie, nothing fancy. I use an iPhone 13 and 12 plus a DJI Action camera and record in 1080P at 30 fps. When I scrub in the timeline I get blue empty frames but I see the video playing and I also get some jitter. So again I’m disappointed because I also watched all these UA-cam videos on how fast these M1/M2 Mac are fast 🤷🏼♂️. I have 6 days left to make a decision on if I return it or keep it.
Update?
@@julietaperazza Kept it, Apple is aware if the performance issues with iMovie, had a recent update for iMovie and it didn’t help, so I decided to purchase Final Cut Pro, just need to learn it 🤷🏼♂️😂.
Is there any Chance to get WQHD at 144/120 with the base line model?
I get the point of the review but why don't you just use it and see how it does for your personal needs, instead of letting benchmark software tell you what to do? The value is the $599 price ($499 education) In my opinion. Future proofing is an illusion in technology world. Thanks for the video.
I get that, but only had 14 days to figure that out. And I’m sure it would’ve worked out fine, but I know the Pro is gonna last me a bit longer. This is one thing I’m not gonna replace until it doesn’t work correctly with the video footage that I’m using. Thanks
Love the channel. I made music on Mac G5. Back in the day on a digi 003 console. Thought that was incredible at the time. I’m going to go with a m2 base for now going from a 2016 i7 iMac If I need to upgrade later on I’ll pass this to the home mac for the kids Maybe Mac Studio m2 I do alot of vst samples but I purge them. So I think the base m2 mini will be a huge difference from the 2016 i7. Question I have is can I have a external Dock the mini sets on with ports that has the m.2 slot built into the dock Will the mini see the external m.2 ssd as a internal drive so I can install my programs on that ? Versus installing onto the internal and using the external as the storage drive for the programs. Logic Pro x. Nuendo. Etc ?? Thanks.
I use the AGPTEK dock for my Mac Mini and its fantastic, it has a slot for an SSD drive built in. However I don't recommend installing programs to the external SSD. Always install your applications like Logic Pro and all the AU/VST plugins on the internal SSD, and keep the external SSD for content such as large orchestral sample libraries, piano libraries, etc. Most plugins (including Native Instruments) will let you define specific paths for content libraries.
sportscar? i thought this was about getting a family mac mini ? 😂
From videos I’ve watch and my experience it’s not the 8gb of memory that’s the problem it’s chrome and having 20+ tabs open. Base model is more then enough for most people unless you have a need for chrome and a ridiculous about of tabs open or more power for serious video editing. But for Art or photography base model is fine.
For your use I would say at least the Apple Mac mini M2 Pro with minimum of 16GB unified memory with 1TB SSD storage. I feel that would have been the magic point. Always with the price.
Love it when you young people talk about the high price of Apple products. Steve Jobs unveiled the first Mac I ever owned the 1984 Apple Macintosh computer with a $2,500.00 price tag. Today adjusted for inflation cost of that original 1984 Apple McIntosh would be $7,281.58.
For normals 512GB SSD of storage should work. You missed the boat at 512GB SSD storage. You should have gone 1TB SSD storage.
Lol did you just compare the price of the first Mac to today? C'mon man it's a completely different world, you can get a free smart phone that does things we couldn't imagine in the 90s.
Also I'd never buy 1TB for $200 dollars, get the 512 and just get a Dock with an SSD slot or an external SSD.
Are you a gamer? Why do u need 1 tb of storage :0
I’ve not bought a new Mac since my MacBook Pro 2015 model. Given the cost of Apple computers these days, it’s a big decision to make.
I could get a Mac Mini Pro now or wait to see if the next M2 Max Studio comes out without the price going up.
Not in an almighty rush, but would like to buy this year.
My guess the m2 studio would not come until the Sept iPhone event. Maybe. Of course it will be faster but if your still rocking a 2015 how much power do you really need ?
@@ScottsReviews I want something that will help with coding and some video work with that can keep me in good stead for another 5 years or more like the 2015 MacBook Pro I have.
The MacBook Pro sounds like a jet engine when worked hard, so want to relegate that to lighter tasks now.
The Mac Mini Pro will in actuality be more than enough at base spec, or with my NHS discount, might be able to leverage a processor or memory upgrade.
Which would be better upgrade wise if choosing that, processor or memory given I’m not into all this multiple 4k streams that isn’t needed for me and 8k that no one will be able to watch nonsense.
@@stephenvalente3296 I would say more RAM. But you would need to buy an external ssd drive. Leave all your apps on the internal and all of the doc and photos / vids on the external. Even if you got 512 memory I would say the same thing.
@@ScottsReviews I thought as much. Have a few Tb’s of external NVMe storage at the moment.
Typical irrational buyer. You can do all your video and audio production on the M2 Mac Mini with 24GB and at least 1TB SSD. If you really want to 'future proof' which does not mean anything as far as Apple machines are concerned (and this is because it is Apple and not the consumer who get to decide how long your machine remains relevant... and Apple does this via software updates laced with hard to detect planned obsolescence algorithms) but i digress... if you need more power than the M2 Mac Mini with 24GB and 1TB SSD, skip everything else in between and get the Mac Studio M2 Max with at east 64GB and 1TB SSD.
On the 512 m2 pro I got 3000/3000 on black magic
And in 10 months he will sell the M2 Pro Mac Mini for the new M2 Max Mac Studio, and then the M3 Pro Mac Mini, etc etc etc.
Ha I wish. No I have no plans for the studio. I was serious I will not have a need to upgrade these until they struggle with what I am doing. Now if we are talking Sony cameras that’s different. 🤪
@@ScottsReviews I understand the GAS. I have a bad case myself. However now is the time to buy Tesla stock for retirement
@@andre1987eph ha I got some about a month ago. And aapl
256 dude? is ridiculous
Wouldn't buy it if someone even paid me to get it. Windows + PC = no beach ball & cheaper ram & storage.
I would recommend dropping the background music; it's very annoying.
What would you recommend to someone that’s going to be gaming and stream? I’m looking at the M2 Pro with 32ram and 512g.
The 32gb would scream. That being said, I have never gamed on a Mac computer.
you should be in hollywood 😀
Right. Ha.
😂🤣😅
funny im in the same situation and sure dont want to strike out in the second enning 👍
Copy that !
Love the intro 😂
I have a 2TB external SSD. Wouldn't I be smarter to just get the 256GB model and run the computer off my 2TB external SSD? This would save me money on on Apple's overpriced storage. Would this be faster or slower than the internal 256GB? It's a Samsung SSD 860 EVO 2TB
You will never get full performance of your external ssd
Update? Im thinking the same
God bless you and your family ❤
SOS I’m deciding whether to buy a mac mini m2 8GB RAM with 512 SSD /or// 16GB RAM with 256 SSD…. I want to get the best out of this big purchase !!!! Also, I would use it for audiovisual production, photo editing, music AND coding, web dev, uxui, design, etc PLS HELP ALSO: I can buy external ssd + I have 1TB on icloud (don’t know if that helps?)
Or may it be better to buy a macbook pro 2019 with 16gb and 512? I’m overwhelmed ☹️
If you go Mac Mini I would go for the Pro. You will get the 16 tb of ram and the 4 ports. The ssd is also faster. Now for the MacBook Pro look into the 16in M1 to save so $. I got one at near release and they dropped the price on those. I would stay away from the 256 ssd to slow and to small. 512 is good and buy external ssd. The last question is desktop or laptop. All depends on how you will use it. Do you already have a good monitor etc…
of course your going to retun it
How did you get the times so wrong hahaha!
What would you recommend for 8-10 hours of video conferencing--5 days a week? Do I need extra RAM to keep the computer cooler? Does it make sense to buy the base M2pro or stick with the M2? I am currently using a MacBook Pro with a 1.4 quad i5 with 8gb of RAM with Intel Iris Plus Graphics 645 1536 MB. It gets so hot I cannot have it on my lap at times. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Any m chip would be enough for your tasks in my opinion. So even a second hand m1 mini would be a great option.
An iPad would be better honestly, the iPad air, Mini 6 or even the 10. All can be had for around $400 right now.
You need not worry about the cooling or ram because Apple iOS sips energy and works more efficient.
What a clown show.
You have to future proof for all the %$#@^! software upgrades. Moving from Davinci Resolve 16 to 18 it called for an intel gpu upgrade on my already highly upgraded Dell Precision 6800 laptop, but intel no longer supports the intel gpu and it's hard on the motherboard.
For some perspective, the first computer I bought back in 1995, was going to be all I'll ever need, single core 128 ram, floppy disc, VGA monitor, lol. It was 2k.
Now you can get the M2 Pro max 32k ram all the cores and 512 ssd for, 2K. I'm getting a minisopuru hub that will hold a crucial 2T NVME ssd for that project editing storage. another $200. It's all I ever need, lol.
Did you know the wifi antenna is on the bottom of the M2? That's why I got the side mount hub.
I'm editing 4k 360 video. Well I'm trying. The Mini m2 pro max is in the mail.
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It's looking as if it's going to have to be 16gb 512 minimum if I want to use it for music production. Pro the sweet spot for the connectivity.
I was so hoping to get there for less £'s, but have to look at it as a multi-year investment.
I'm not a pro, but running multi apps and vst plugins is necessary and nothing gets in the way of creative workflow more than cpu hangups on my now aging imac. It makes me not want to start anything sometimes.
Thought about going cheaper with a PC, but all my DL's are mac. I do much prefer the mac Ui though. It's easy on the eye, simplified and more user intuitive to me.
I'm probably in the same boat as most, when I worry about getting something that is not enough. I don't want something that is overly overkill for my needs, but just at least to have ample headroom for what I want to do without seeing that spinning beachball!
Good luck with today's delivery!
Thanks. So far my export tests via FCP the export time differences are small. However The m2 pro will last me longer and I like the 2 extra USBc ports.
I always buy pros spending lots of money , but never use it to the fullest those extra ports😃and end of wasting lots of money unecessarily getting overhypes with pros when not needed.
Hence decided not to waste money when not needed and ordered regular M2 mac mini with 24GB RAM , 512 GB SSD , as i use lots of apps and keep it opened for faster works.
Even i am sure this specs will be more than enough for Editing 4K.
I feel completely unecessary to buy the PRO M2 mac mini and overkilled.
Regarding Future proof, every year tech changes.. so this is a never ending process.
I cannot recommend enough the base model M2 Pro Mini for music production. It's a very sweet spot.
@GregoryDumont2 Thanks, it's good to see confirmation of that and that you're happy with it's performance.
@@GregoryDumont2meaning the 8 gb RAM & 256 SSD is enough!? or you mean with 16gb RAM? Help, I’m about to buy one and since it’s a really big investment I want the best
Great vid, lose the electronic schlock music.
凑合用呗，害能离咋滴🙄
Wanna sell your M2?
I need 3 monitors 🤷♂
We all have needs