"Base bleed" projectiles reduce the aerodynamic drag of their big flat bottom surface by having a relatively small, slow-burning gas generator in there. It's too small to generate thrust like a RAP, but the idea is it creates a plume of hot gas behind the shell, and that reduces the air which gets sucked around the sides and back up under it, which is otherwise a major source of drag on artillery shells. They're fairly cheap and easy to make, small enough to not really harm the shell's explosive charge, and pretty significantly improves their range, so a lot of modern artillery shells are base bleed.
NBC = Nuclear Biological Chemical It's fairly standard for most combat vehicles to be NBC protected. Of course that only works with the hatch closed. The air inside is pressurized to have a higher pressure than the outside system. All outside air is pumped through a filter. Electronics monitor for detectable traces of chemical weapons and an alarm is sounded if found so the crew can get their gas masks on. Extended: My guess is that they just add an extra propellant charge. Just a guess though. Base bleed: The shell is specially shaped at the rear end that optimizes air flow and reduces drag by a significant amount. Look up base bleed airodynamics
Hello and welcome back to the Reapers! Today we pay homage to HG Wells’ The War of the Worlds by slowly and surely demolishing all vehicles, buildings and lighthouses in our immediate vicinity! Thump!!!
I found that when letting the Nona’s ai shoot, it has pinpoint accuracy, literally hitting the exact point I set as a target. Also in the msta, pressing Q will give you control of the machine gun. (Q switches turret control, the MG on the msta and other tanks are on a separate turret on the top.)
Quite late, but a few things that can be answered. On the rear of the 2S19 Msta is the loading tray. Standard of Soviet/Russian guns in the 122mm and up rage, shells are generally 2 piece (projectile and charge) so inside the rear of the Msta's turret, 6 (IIRC) moving conveyors that separately hold projectiles and casings. This way, it can hold a fair amount of shells inside. To aid, the projectile is dropped onto a try which drops the round a fair distance down to the breech, a chain rammer shoves the shell in, returns, the casing is dropped down next, chain rammer rams it, the breech automatically closes, rammer returns, and the gun is ready to fire (casings are ejected out the front below the barrel after firing as well). The other tube, going by typical Soviet MBT's, should be a snorkel for fording rivers. The M109 is not a fast firing system. After firing, the bore and breech plug are given a quick clean after a few, rounds, sometimes after each one. Shells are loaded by hand and then rammed in (either by I believe a hydraulic ram attached to the breech or by a ram rod), the charge(s) placed in (small combustible charges that are easy to load), the plug closed and locked, a primer loaded, and fired by lanyard. Not the fastest, but it works and has been used for a long time. For the 2S1 Gvozdika, yes, propelled by tracks is possible and has been used on various other Soviet vehicles like the BMP-1 and 2, MT-LB, and their variants. Not a very fast method of moving, but it does the job for crossing rivers and other short water crossings. NBC stands for Nuclear, Biological, Chemical. NBC protections are to protect crews from any such threats if said weapons are ever encountered on the battlefield which was a very high risk during the cold war and continues today. Vehicle depending, air intakes may be closed and fans turned off for a second while air scrubbers and filters are put to use to filter any air entering the vehicle. More common to some Soviet vehicles (like a T-62 or T-72 for example), air pressure may be increased inside the vehicle to allow ejection ports to safely open for a second for casing ejection. 2S1 continued: Yes, 2 piece ammunition, projectile followed by the casing. Able to keep a good RoF thanks to the assisted loading system where a shell is placed on a tray which sits to the right of the gun (with the tray holding the round at an upward angle), shoving it over to the loading position trips a switch which drops the tray and has a chain rammer ram the shell, a casing is then placed on the tray followed by the loading pushing a button that drops the tray and rams the casing followed by returning the tray back to the right of the gun and arming the gun for firing. Somewhat similar to the system of the T-10 heavy tank. In terms of ammo - Nona: I think 20, but I can't be sure. M109: I believe 39 on the A6 variant. Gvozdika: 40 I believe. Msta: 50 rounds. Akatsiya: I've heard as low as 35 and as high as 46. DANA: Not so sure (don't know much on this guy), but it seems to be 60 from what I have read. Note that most of the time, multiple guns are set up with ammunition carriers outside to feed a consistent supply of ammunition to the vehicles. (Edited for various grammar/spelling mistakes)
So the extended range is probably based on the later upgraded barrel or an alternate +p munition. The gvozdika probably propels itself in water by flats on its tracks like how the Big Foot monster truck raced a boat in a river. Not efficient but can get the job done. And yes, you use powder bags to adjust the power of the round. Doing this you can launch 3 shells at different angles and have them all land on the same spot at roughly the same time. There was a cool documentary on the military channel once explaining this and showing it in action on a German artillery tank. One of the cool things about howitzers is that they are designed to fire both as artillery and as direct fire weapons for close engagements. I would hate to fight with one in such a manner but it can be done!
I guess the indicated range only applies, if your target is on the same altitude like you. What do you do, if your target is 2000 feet below you for example?
"Noob" question here. I fly IL2 sim now. Not a DCS pilot yet. Since the 2s9 is an aluminium, air droppable SPG , is there a way to load it on the IL76 I've seen in game? It would be cool to see it shoved out the back of a large aircraft. Or even a LAPE... just wondering out loud.
Dana itself is from Slovakia (in the era of its design it was Czechoslovakia), but the camouflage pattern is probably modern Czech one (roundel is same for Czechoslovakia and later Czech republic). Do not take this as granted but formal czechoslovak army was using mostly one colour to paint its army vehicles. Camouflage patterns were used during exercises (and would be used in conflict) and were made with colours that could be washed away. Thus 3-colour permanent pattern is most likely today's Czech one. Slovak ones are IMHO still in 1 shade of khaki green and polish ones use also some brown shade in their pattern
More arty porn. Serious question though, does DCS allow one to command a time on target fire mission with the arty, (multiple shells, all impacting at the same time)?
NBC = Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical. This vehicle can operate in these environment without the solider wearing protective gear. (SAU-122 or 2S1 Gvozdika)
"Base bleed" projectiles reduce the aerodynamic drag of their big flat bottom surface by having a relatively small, slow-burning gas generator in there.
It's too small to generate thrust like a RAP, but the idea is it creates a plume of hot gas behind the shell, and that reduces the air which gets sucked around the sides and back up under it, which is otherwise a major source of drag on artillery shells.
They're fairly cheap and easy to make, small enough to not really harm the shell's explosive charge, and pretty significantly improves their range, so a lot of modern artillery shells are base bleed.
Such glee in Cap’s voice when destroying his surroundings. Love it!🤘🤘🤘
PzH 2000 is coming to DCS if im correct
NBC = Nuclear Biological Chemical
It's fairly standard for most combat vehicles to be NBC protected. Of course that only works with the hatch closed. The air inside is pressurized to have a higher pressure than the outside system. All outside air is pumped through a filter. Electronics monitor for detectable traces of chemical weapons and an alarm is sounded if found so the crew can get their gas masks on.
Extended: My guess is that they just add an extra propellant charge. Just a guess though.
Base bleed: The shell is specially shaped at the rear end that optimizes air flow and reduces drag by a significant amount. Look up base bleed airodynamics
Hello and welcome back to the Reapers!
Today we pay homage to HG Wells’ The War of the Worlds by slowly and surely demolishing all vehicles, buildings and lighthouses in our immediate vicinity!
Thump!!!
lols
I found that when letting the Nona’s ai shoot, it has pinpoint accuracy, literally hitting the exact point I set as a target. Also in the msta, pressing Q will give you control of the machine gun. (Q switches turret control, the MG on the msta and other tanks are on a separate turret on the top.)
Oh I see. Thanks.
Nice video Cap, keep it up!
Ohh and I think you can see the shells flying by pressing RCtrl & Num+
wow awesome!
Great fun Cap! I wish there were more combined arms missions....
Nice. I liked that you did a wiki. If I may suggest, you should always do it in a new hardware review.
The dana clearly has a Czech roundel on it
It is Czech
Quite late, but a few things that can be answered. On the rear of the 2S19 Msta is the loading tray. Standard of Soviet/Russian guns in the 122mm and up rage, shells are generally 2 piece (projectile and charge) so inside the rear of the Msta's turret, 6 (IIRC) moving conveyors that separately hold projectiles and casings. This way, it can hold a fair amount of shells inside. To aid, the projectile is dropped onto a try which drops the round a fair distance down to the breech, a chain rammer shoves the shell in, returns, the casing is dropped down next, chain rammer rams it, the breech automatically closes, rammer returns, and the gun is ready to fire (casings are ejected out the front below the barrel after firing as well). The other tube, going by typical Soviet MBT's, should be a snorkel for fording rivers.
The M109 is not a fast firing system. After firing, the bore and breech plug are given a quick clean after a few, rounds, sometimes after each one. Shells are loaded by hand and then rammed in (either by I believe a hydraulic ram attached to the breech or by a ram rod), the charge(s) placed in (small combustible charges that are easy to load), the plug closed and locked, a primer loaded, and fired by lanyard. Not the fastest, but it works and has been used for a long time.
For the 2S1 Gvozdika, yes, propelled by tracks is possible and has been used on various other Soviet vehicles like the BMP-1 and 2, MT-LB, and their variants. Not a very fast method of moving, but it does the job for crossing rivers and other short water crossings. NBC stands for Nuclear, Biological, Chemical. NBC protections are to protect crews from any such threats if said weapons are ever encountered on the battlefield which was a very high risk during the cold war and continues today. Vehicle depending, air intakes may be closed and fans turned off for a second while air scrubbers and filters are put to use to filter any air entering the vehicle. More common to some Soviet vehicles (like a T-62 or T-72 for example), air pressure may be increased inside the vehicle to allow ejection ports to safely open for a second for casing ejection.
2S1 continued: Yes, 2 piece ammunition, projectile followed by the casing. Able to keep a good RoF thanks to the assisted loading system where a shell is placed on a tray which sits to the right of the gun (with the tray holding the round at an upward angle), shoving it over to the loading position trips a switch which drops the tray and has a chain rammer ram the shell, a casing is then placed on the tray followed by the loading pushing a button that drops the tray and rams the casing followed by returning the tray back to the right of the gun and arming the gun for firing. Somewhat similar to the system of the T-10 heavy tank.
In terms of ammo - Nona: I think 20, but I can't be sure. M109: I believe 39 on the A6 variant. Gvozdika: 40 I believe. Msta: 50 rounds. Akatsiya: I've heard as low as 35 and as high as 46. DANA: Not so sure (don't know much on this guy), but it seems to be 60 from what I have read. Note that most of the time, multiple guns are set up with ammunition carriers outside to feed a consistent supply of ammunition to the vehicles.
(Edited for various grammar/spelling mistakes)
33:29 when you light up the lighthouse :D
So the extended range is probably based on the later upgraded barrel or an alternate +p munition.
The gvozdika probably propels itself in water by flats on its tracks like how the Big Foot monster truck raced a boat in a river. Not efficient but can get the job done.
And yes, you use powder bags to adjust the power of the round. Doing this you can launch 3 shells at different angles and have them all land on the same spot at roughly the same time. There was a cool documentary on the military channel once explaining this and showing it in action on a German artillery tank.
One of the cool things about howitzers is that they are designed to fire both as artillery and as direct fire weapons for close engagements. I would hate to fight with one in such a manner but it can be done!
@@tatumergo3931 Very good info. Thank you.
CA seems worth it for the Radar missile vehicles but not so much for these. I may be wrong but I am still picking it up in the next sale :)
It's fairly cheap, so can be worth getting even though it's not terribly important.
@@Maeyanie It may be cheap... But I am cheaper lol
I guess the indicated range only applies, if your target is on the same altitude like you. What do you do, if your target is 2000 feet below you for example?
please can you tell me whats the key to see where the shell hits? you did that at 22:35
"Big Thumpy Unit" was my nickname in college.
Watching theese beauties makes me wish we had the Bandkanon 1C.
"Noob" question here. I fly IL2 sim now. Not a DCS pilot yet.
Since the 2s9 is an aluminium, air droppable SPG , is there a way to load it on the IL76 I've seen in game? It would be cool to see it shoved out the back of a large aircraft. Or even a LAPE... just wondering out loud.
hmmm no dont think so
Direct fire is, using the main gun to shoot direct at a target. I.E.. Tank, Building, Bunker, APC, Troop or vehicle assaulting their position.
Such a shame we don't have the M110 and the 2S7 Pion for true ridiculous overkill.
The game has it's own sound effects :P
The Dana is Polish or Czech, 1 of the 2. A really interesting vehicle. Also, N O N A !
Dana is from Czech Republic
Dana itself is from Slovakia (in the era of its design it was Czechoslovakia), but the camouflage pattern is probably modern Czech one (roundel is same for Czechoslovakia and later Czech republic).
Do not take this as granted but formal czechoslovak army was using mostly one colour to paint its army vehicles. Camouflage patterns were used during exercises (and would be used in conflict) and were made with colours that could be washed away. Thus 3-colour permanent pattern is most likely today's Czech one.
Slovak ones are IMHO still in 1 shade of khaki green and polish ones use also some brown shade in their pattern
More arty porn. Serious question though, does DCS allow one to command a time on target fire mission with the arty, (multiple shells, all impacting at the same time)?
No, but that would be cool
@@grimreapers I wish I could find video of both the gun, or even better a battery of guns, firing a MRSI mission and the receiving end of one.
Cap, can you do a vid on re-arming units SAMs RT etc from rearming vehicles please 👍🏻🇬🇧
wilco
You can use the MSTA's machine gun but you press Q "Select Turret" rather than E "Turret Weapon Select"
thx
To bad they don't have the Bakan1... Cap would have loved that one...
cool
high fidelity artillery piece would be nice.
And you do have a laser range finder if you hit B
thx
the set button is to manually enter coordinates. you don't need to, shouldn't click it after using the mouse on the map.
copy
of note, iirc the nona and Govasga can float
cool
Dana is a Czech vehicle
NBC = Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical. This vehicle can operate in these environment without the solider wearing protective gear. (SAU-122 or 2S1 Gvozdika)
thx
Nona is basically air dropable anti submarine artillery.
awesome thing
the dana its Chech
Use the Arty to shoot down helicopters
cool
I thought it was a freaking scorpion tank.
Batty boys?? Lmao
South African
South Africa has a simillar howitzer.