The Truth About Disney’s Splash Mountain
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- Today J dives into the Happiest Places on Earth, Disney World and Disneyland to discusses the history and future of Splash Mountain and its newly announced facelift to become a Princess and the Frog themed ride!
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What is your favorite ride at Disney World or Disneyland?
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So many to choose from! How could I pick just one?
Big Thunder Mountain!!
Love your theories awesome leaves a smile on my face
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Never been there 😪
A Emperor’s New Groove roller coaster would be AMAZING
Right? Imagine Yzma saying, “pull the lever, Kronk!” as you go up the, and then hearing her say, “wrong lever!” As you shoot forward!
@f varg Uhh...You mean the Princess Frog
I’ve said this for so long, but I’m excited for the princess and the frog
#EmperorsNewRide Lets make it a thing
It is a cool idea and I've always wanted that to be a ride. But It doesn't really fit the New Orleans or Frontierland themes of either park though. At least at Disneyland the ride is by New Orleans Square and PATF is set in New Orleans. They should just build that in Adventureland.
Actually, funny story about the pre-lapbar era of Splash Mountain: I was riding it when I was 3 or 4 (2004 for context) and I wanted to dance to Zip A Dee Doo Dah at the end of the ride since it was a fun song and there was a backup in the loading station so I stood up and someone came over the loudspeaker to tell me to sit down and I got really embarrassed 😂 So I like to think I somewhat contributed to the installation of the lapbars there 😅
Oof. That seems fun, tho
Congratulations you are the reason they kept people from dying in Disney land. You are a hero.
More lawyers leads to more lap bars.
they actually still don't have lap bars for the Splash Mountain at Disneyland!
@jordan Rivera yeah, I was gonna say, I’ve definitely been on splash mountain since 2011 and they didn’t have lapbars.
Y’all should do a video on “missing Disney rides”. Like Emperor’s New Groove splash ride or Aladdin Cave of Wonder escape.
Omg an Aladdín Cave of Wonder Escape would be SO COOL!
Id love to see this in a video!
Yes! I keep saying this! I don't know why it hasn't been done! I also would like to see Jasmine's palace.
Purple Melody (ColumineMiette) oh a whole new world ride in the same vain as the Peter Pan ride. That would be awesome
Monster's Inc Door Ride? That slow ride in CA is such a yawn :(
I got an ad RIGHT in the middle of the "hey brother" which really felt like that old dude bumping into Kuzco and throwing him off his groove
I just hope they're singing "Are you ready!" As you approach the final drop.
Yes! And at the apex: "But if you ain't dont blame me. You can blame my friends on the OTHER SIDE!"
It’s pretty unlikely this will be the case. I’ve heard the plot is supposed to take place after the time of the movie, therefore after Dr. Facilier (idk if I spelled that right 😂) has been defeated. I would love this but I don’t think this will be the case 😔
Leila Shea true, but maybe the demons in the masks want revenge or something
Leila Shea Augh I know but then again, I don’t know if I trust what Disney says. They said the same thing about father frozen ride how it was post frozen movie but when I watched the rides on UA-cam, they still featured the songs, so I’m hoping Disney is fibbing to keep that element of surprise
Maybe the plot is about Naveen and Tiana traveling to New Orleans after the spell is broken?
Think, imagine this, your going up to the big drop and then “Pull The Lever Kronk WRONG LEVEEEEERRRR”
It's an absolute travesty there is no attraction around that frase.
Or maybe earlier in the ride you went up the steps of the palace. Then you are just going around seeing different scenes in the palace, with maybe a few slight drops and rises. And then it levels out as you enter a dark spooky area. You hear "Pull the lever Kronk!" and as the ground seems to drop beneath you you hear her scream "WRONG LEVEEERR!!" as you go down the big drop in almost total darkness.
Or it could be right at the beginning and everyone riding just knows it’s about to get wild.
Genius
and then you go backwards
When the drop comes they gotta play “Friends on the Other Side” and right before the drop “ ARE YOU REEAADDYY”
Absolutely!
I 100% agree with this
Absolutely, yes! That drop has to be our decent into the Other Side!!!
Yes I agree but the imagineers have already said it taking place after the kiss so that probably won’t happen unfortunately
YESSS DO IT DISNEY
Who’s going to tell him that Splash Mountain in California still doesn’t have lap bars?
LOL!
shhh it'll break his heart
Seriously?
Yeah I've been and when he mentioned lap bars I was confused.
@@madelinegutierrez1720 it's not like there's a danger of falling out
I finally got to watch “Song of the South” for myself not to long ago. As a black person, I understand why the movie can’t fly in today’s times of racial profiling and injustice. But as a Disney fan, I was able to separate the problems with the movie and enjoy for what it was: A man telling life lessons to kids through the use of the Br’er characters. Interesting fact, “Song of the South won two Oscars: Best Song (Zip-a-Dee-Do-Dah) and an Honorary Oscar for James Baskett’s portrayal of Uncle Remus. When I first saw that Disney was going to reimagine Splash Mountain to Princess and the Frog, I was upset. To me, it meant the 3 Mountain Challenge at Disneyland or Disney World wouldn’t be the same. But after some self-reflecting, I understand why Disney need to do it. Plus, Disney is known to reimagining their theme park rides all the time, and sometimes for the better. (Example. Malestrom in the Norway Pavilion to Frozen Ever After, The Universe of Energy into Guardians of Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind, etc.) As Disney fans, we all have to remember that Disney parks will never be complete as long as there is imagination in the world. So, let’s all go ride Splash Mountain one last time before we go down the bayou with Tiana and Naveen.
I hadn’t heard of this movie before but I have been on the ride multiple times, can you tell me what its about (roughly) because of how hard it would be to find a copy?
Perfectly put!!! Also, how did you watch the movie? I have spent so long trying to find it!
@@archiescreech-dean7976 You can find the film for purchase here: songofthesouth.org/
@@archiescreech-dean7976 Also the film is about a black servant on a Southern Reconstruction plantation who tells a young boy who lives there stories of Brer Rabbit.
Can we still call it Splash Mountain, though? It's a good name, and the ride was consciously made not to call back to the movie's sketchy parts. I'm perfectly happy with retheming to Princess and the Frog, but Splash Mountain is iconic, and I think most of the world has walked around thinking it doesn't have a movie connection just like Thunder Mountain doesn't. Retheming it isn't going to take it's previous life away, in fact it's spotlighting it. I think the fact that they could keep the same name and only make the ride better says something positive about accepting your past with it's flaws and building a better future.
“The princess frog” That is the new movie title now
more accurate tbh
And another: Beauty is a Beast
To be fair Tiana was a frog for the majority of the film...
Also is it Darren Criss in a very Potter musical on Your profile picture?
AVPM PFP EEEEEEEEEE
J: (Corrects himself for The Princess Frog)
J, immediately: "Escape From Everest"
I wish they’d do a theory on why Lilo collects pictures of fat people, I feel like if anybody would be able to figure out why, it’d be Ben & J
Ha I thought he just took pics of tourists cos that’s what tourists do when visiting a place, take picture of the native folk!?? Or am I way off haha
@@Katielovegood44 yeah that's the reason, just revenge
Its people of varying sizes most of whom are fat. In Polynesian cultures big is seen as strong and beautiful. Lilo even comments on this by saying "aren't they beautiful"
As for why she takes pictures all the time well as a social worker (special classification) I believe it is because she lost her parents at such a young age and the only thing she has left of them is a picture. She understands that memories are precious. After all Ohana means family and family means no one gets left behind or forgotten. And what better way to hold onto the memory of someone than with a picture.
Also as a bonus did you ever wonder why she is obsessed with feeding a fish peanut butter well "Pudge controls the weather"
Pudge is seen in the beginning of the movie with the sandwich. He is the state fish known as the
Humuhumunukunukuapua`a (trigger fish) which us associated with the DemiGod Kama Pua'a who possesses the powers of commanding the rain and waters.
So why feed the state fish? Well her parents died in a storm. She feeds a fish in hopes that no one else she loves will be taken in the same way that her parents were. So NO Myrtle she's not weird she's just super caring.
There was a deleted scene that explained it.
@@NitroIndigo ooh really? What was it about?
Now critter country will be called “just Winnie the Pooh”
Pooh corner, Winnie the pooh isn't very creative name for a land
Reverse it, it might sound better: Pooh the Winnie lol :)
Winnie the Pooh is very offensive to the Chinese. Disney doesn't like offending the Chinese so I doubt this.
@@danielleberam8748 how is Winnie the Pooh offensive to Chinese besides the president getting offended that it looks like him bc he's a sensitive b*tch
You just answered your question.
Okay now that you said it, I really want to see an Emperor’s New Groove indoor roller coaster now. I can see half of it going through the movie and the other half being that whole roller coaster ride into Ezma’s lab
I imagine it as a mix between Winnie the Pooh, and The Mummy from Universal. I know what I'm making for my birthday wish.
The “wrong lever” can be what was “laughin falls” and then they pull the real lever and it’s the actual drop. ENG is my favorite Disney movie and I would’ve loved to see this!
Fun fact:
A lot of the original rides at Disney World, including the three mountains, were manufactured by the very popular Arrow Dynamics. Many of the Arrow rides at Disney represented the cutting edge of roller coaster capabilities when they opened, and are a huge part of the way the roller coaster industry has grown into what it is today. Arrow Dynamics went on to make innovations such as the corkscrew inversion and a unique new track style that is the basis for modern steel coasters, but Arrow likely would not have grown into such a prominent influence without Disney. Arrow Dynamics eventually filed for bankruptcy in 2001 after manufacturing their last ride (X at Six Flags Magic Mountain) which was the first 4D coaster. Their assets were absorbed to become part of the manufacturer S&S, which still produces coasters today, including the popular 4D coaster model known as the Freespin.
In summary, coaster enthusiasts owe a lot of what we enjoy to Disney for giving Arrow the space to make innovations that brought the coaster industry to where it is today.
My mother, who was born in 1940, loved Song of the South. She would have first seen it as a six-year-old and fell in love with the music. While Disney hasn't created any legal ways to view the film in the U.S. it is possible to find it. Someone (and I am admitting nothing) obtained a copy for her to watch a few years ago. Last summer my mother had been in failing health and had been moving back and forth between a rehab and regular hospital. I came to visit her just after she had asked my brother if he could put the movie on for her. I got there just as he was telling her that the Internet said the film was racist. I told her that if she wanted to watch it I could get it for her, but she declined. She died a few weeks later. I really wish it had been possible for her to watch the film legally before she passed away. I understand why the film is problematic, but I think it could be made available with warnings and educational content prior to the film, the way HBO Max is treating Gone With the Wind. I mean if it's possible to watch Birth of a Nation, Song of the South should be available, at least to elderly people that fell in love with the movie as children.
I find it kind of dumb that a lot of things that are from the past are now being bashed for being racist. I understand the hate but EVERYTHING was racist back in the day, so we just need to accept that they were wrong and enjoy things despite any racist messages that may have been intended
Jamie_Dodger exactly, we can’t change history. Same with making existing characters gay, just make new stories with LGBTQ characters rather than changing old ones
And I mean think about this, uncle Rhemus is a slave, and he’s singing about how he loves his life and it’s better to be happy because he can do nothing about his situation, and we’re over here saying “what! Someone that’s content with their life dispite their situation! That’s messed up!”
I love it too. And I’m totally aware of the cringe elements. But I still love the music and character and the ride so much. I’ll miss it terribly.
Song of the South is set post Civil War. Therefore, Uncle Remus is not a slave. For those who have seen the movie, and this is a spoiler warning so you might not want to read on further if you've never seen it
Toward the end, Uncle Remus plans on leaving the plantation and is even taking his suitcase over to a carriage which will take him away from the plantation. And this is all in broad daylight with people around. This is not something a slave could just do. And if Uncle Remus were a slave, he would not dare leave the plantation in broad daylight. He would sneak out in the middle of the night when everyone's asleep.
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When I got to go to Disney world, my family all got on splash mountain together and last minute my mom asked to switch me seats. The whole ride I stay almost completely dry, while she was soaking wet within the first few seconds of it. Still my favorite moment from the trip 😂
As someone who wants to be an Imagineer, I was super excited to see this! Also, if I ever do become one, I'll do my very best to make an Emperor's New Groove ride!
I hope you get to imaging that it would be amazing
Best of luck to you fellow Ravenclaw!
Oh cool I want to be an imagineer as well
I'm surprised Splash Mountain didn't get an overhaul a long time ago considering the source material. Princess and The Frog definitely does need more recognition in the parks, can't believe we don't have a Tianas Place restaurant
Story time: Earlier year I went to Disneyland Paris to perform there with school. It was very fun! 3 DAYS later, Disney closed their parks, less than a week later France went into lockdown. A week later, the UK closed their schools, 4 days later, the whole UK went into lockdown!
Conclusions: we basically went at the last possible moment! Good thing we went when we did!
Don’t tell me I’m the only one who started singing “It’s a great big beautiful tomorrow” when J did
Jay Mac I did too 😁
Of course you weren't. I was singing also
Yep. I wish I could sing as good as J. He can’t sing great, but at least he can’t clear rooms with his voice!
🎶There’s a great big beautiful tomorrow🎶
(Deep breath + seagull meme)
🎶JUST A DREAM AWAY🎶
Me too
Was I the only one that had the Disney Sing-along-song VHS tape, I strongly remember watching that a lot as a kid.
I had a book and read-along cassette tape for brer rabbit and the tar baby book as a kid in the 90s.
Megan Berbaum I had it too, I always wondered where the story came from when I was a child. That particular story has some unfortunate implications that went over my head as a kid.
@@Rhyianan I always got super scared when they went through the haunted mansion
J: how did they make it 22 years without lap bars!!!
Me: Uh... Disneyland's Splash Mountain still has zero lap bars!
I don't think I have ever been on a log flume with a lap bar.
Concept: Ben and J work at Disney and climb the ranks and finally get us a Emperor’s New Groove ride.
Something to note James Baskett received an honorary Oscar for his performance, in 1948. Only seven years after the first African-American actor to actually win the award Hattie McDaniel. For her equally controversial role in Gone with the Wind. (She also has a role in Song of the South.)
True. But Walt Disney himself pushed the academy to provide this award, and James was not allowed to attend the ceremony due to segregation laws, unfortunately.
I didnt know he wasnt allowed to attend , thats disgusting .
Ironic that they could share the screen but not the stage
Gone With the Wind is nothing without Hattie McDaniel. She may have almost always played a maid, but she always did it with class and sass. When asked why she didn't hold out for higher profile roles, her response was that she'd rather make $700 a month (or week, don't remember exactly) playing a maid than $7 actually being one. In other words, it paid the bills. Unfortunately she was looked down upon in her lifetime for it, but I admire her for that.
I wish you had dived deeper into “Song of the South” and its original source material “The Tales of Briar Rabbit.”
Not trying to be mean, but it's actually "Br'er" Rabbit, not Briar. "Br'er" is supposed to be a shortened form of "Brother"
Even though it’s not the most exciting, my favorite ride is probably Pirates of the Caribbean. Something about the atmosphere, and the smell that they pump in there, just reminds me of my childhood days at Disney land.
J: "let me know what is your favorite ride at Disneyworld"
Me, who never been in any Disney park: *cries in the corner*
Same here! Its way too expensive for my giant family.
Same lol
@@luthientinuviel3883 .-. heck, it's too expensive for my family of _one_
Start saving up now! By the time it’s actually safe to go again you’ll have enough lol
With ya here
Honestly, I'm super excited for the Princess and the Frog ride! It's really underrated!
Ok so fun story: my school’s music department went to Disney World last spring (2019). We spent a day at each of the 4 main kingdoms (and a short half-day at Disney Springs). Our final full day was spent at Magical Kingdom. My group got fast passes for Splash Mountain at 8:15-8:30ish. It was really fun, but we really wanted to ride Space Mountain, so we rushed to the EXACT OPPOSITE Side of the park so we would get in the line and ride it before our 10:00PM curfew to return to our hotel. We made it at roughly 8:45-9:00, and we got about halfway through the line at 9:30 when we were concerned we weren’t going to make it through the ride before we had to return to the hotels, and we may need to leave the line in order to get back in time. HOWEVER, we eventually saw the theater and orchestra teacher behind us, so we got really relieved. We even kind of passed each other in the lines and it was a really funny moment. We had to be 15 minutes away from getting onto the ride when it BROKE. To compensate, the park staff gave us free fast passes that were active for 24 hours, but they were kinda useless to us since we didn’t have enough time to ride another ride before we had to go back and the next day would be spent in Disney Springs, not a regular kingdom park. Regardless of how frustrating and annoying it was that night, every time my group talks about it now we laugh really hard. That was actually a great trip.
I must admit, I’m a little sad they’re changing Splash Mountain. My family owns Song of the South (though I’m not sure how we got it), and I always thought it was a cute movie. I guess I could understand how some might find it racially insensitive, but I don’t think it was really a racist movie. It was just the story of a black man teaching a white boy fun stories that were portrayed as cute cartoons. It was really light hearted and fun, so I really don’t understand why people think it’s so racist, and I’ll be sad to see Splash Mountain change. I still love Princess and the Frog though, so I’m sure I’ll still love the ride, even though I’ll miss the old characters :)
I agree Song of the South isn’t racist :) Splash Mountain would have never been built if it was :)
i’m sad i wish they could just add on ride instead of replacing they got hella space i miss Tower of Terror & now Splash Mountain 2 of my favs :,( i really wish i could get to see Song of the South because i have always wondered since i was little what movie it was based on & i was intrigued into watching it so badly but could never get any answers
I’m totally supportive of the new Princess and the Frog re-theme! Splash Mountain is a classic that I enjoyed for the animatronics, etc... but I’m confident that the new overlay will make it a better ride, as well as one connected to a fantastic movie.
I agree. At first I was sad because it’s my actual favorite ride. But I like what they did with Guardians and the Tower of Terror so I think it’ll be a nice update to get more life out of it
@@gang9308 ya but those changes were due to people wanting to change it. This change is due to politics and questionable racism.
uri mascka so? That’s on Disney then if they want to cater to a fringe minority. Maybe that will even lose them business. As for me though, I don’t really care, I think it’ll be a nice paint job on an old favorite of mine.
THE DISNEY SING ALONGS WERE THE BEST !! My favorite was when Mickey takes the kids to the beach and the lagoon
I liked the circus one
Also I remember song of the south on tv as a kid and also I remember having no bars across my lap on splash mountain, I actually asked my parents why there isn’t one
I remember thatttttttttttttttttt
I Had This REALLY Trippy,Live-Action Christmas Sing-Along Movie WAAAAAY Back When I Was Little. It Was Basically Just Mickey Mouse And The Gang Singing Christmas Songs With A Bunch Of Random Humans,But I Was Super Into It When I Was 3 Or 4 Years Old.XD
I GREW UP on those Sing Along Song VHS tapes 😭. My favorite was also the Mickey Beach one but also the "Sailing, Sailing" one as well with Goofy and friends 😅
Splash mountain in Disneyland still doesn't have lap bars... just sayin
I think that’s why splash mountain was closed when I went to Disney in 2011
I almost cried when I found out that splash mountain was closing “zipity doda zipity yey”
And I have rode it one time
I’m so happy about the rebuild but like a ride where the last thing you hear is Yzma screaming? Would be 11/10
I remember going to Disneyland as a child when Splash Mountain was being built. I remember being so disappointed 😞 about not getting to go into Bear Country. It was one of my favorite sections, because I loved all the silly and clever talking animals. I also remember seeing Song of the South in theaters when I was a child. In live action parts were way beyond my understanding at the time; but I loved the animation (what child wouldn’t) and how clever Brer Rabbit was. In a way, it kind of makes me think of Peter Rabbit.
I went to Disneyland twice as a kid. The first time I went, Splash Mountain was closed. I then grew up with a CD that had Zip-A-Do-Da on it. Before my second trip, my parents actually found a British channel that broadcasted the complete Song of the South movie. So, before I even rode the ride I knew the song and the characters and never had to wonder what they were from.
Is that a plain yellow shirt with no reference to Disney?!
Who are you and what have you done to J?🧐
Hes disneybounding pooh bear
it’s clear that he’s taken inspiration from Tiana’s yellow waitress outfit 🤨
Or Anything?!?!?
I still want an Emperor’s new Groove ride
The song "Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah" is being removed from any background loops at the park as well. 😥
Uncle Remus and His friends is one of the oldest books in my collection, my edition was printed in 1914.
It was one of the books in my bedtime story rotation read by my mother. (She would also read me Aesop's Fables (Still have that one also, printed 1892), among other books).
So when Song of the South came to theaters in 1973 (drive-in, no way my parents take me to a theater at 5), we went to see to Song of the South/The Aristocats double bill. I've also seen it a few times (at least once more) on Wonderful World of Disney.
Granted I haven't seen it since the 70s, but I don't understand the hate.
As a small impressionable child, that movie gave me positive impressions of black people.
With Uncle Remus being especially kind, well-meaning, and wise.
While simultaneously giving me a negative impression of slavery and racism.
And as far as the language used to tell the stories. The whole point is that it is historically accurate to the vernacular of the time, in the dialect of the original storytellers.
i stopped watching hamilton for this, y'all have my respect uwu
I literally just finished watching hamilton!
jdnvnfaodeo its so good
Ah man i need to find the time to watch it! Gotta get the kids to bed nice and early one night soon!
HOLY FRIGGING WHAT THE SUPER CARLIN BROTHERS NOTICED ME :0 I NEVER KNEW I WOULD GET THIS HONOR
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Though there are definitely undertones to the story, I was always entertained by Bre'r Rabbit's antics as a kid. He was kind of Bugs Bunny before Bugs Bunny existed (in the original folk tale). Plus, I try not to judge things based on modern sensitivities. I may avoid some things because of my own modern views, but I don't see the point in condemning someone or something for being a product of their time.
On a different note, Princess and the Frog is definitely the best way to update this one. Disappointed there still isn't an Emperor's New Groove ride, though.
Sir Tomerok 98 there really were no undertones in the ride though. I’ll give you the movie and the live action parts. But this ride took out the racist parts and shows the story of an escaped slave outsmarting and escaping from the bumbling slaveowners. Nothing racist about it. I also agree with you on looking at things from the past in the lens of what was socially acceptable for the times. Back in the 1940’s, there was almost no representation of African Americans that didn’t paint them as some kind of inferior, below intelligent being or as the comic relief. This movie portrays Uncle Remus, a black man, as the hero of the story which did NOT happen back when this movie was made. If we want to look back at this movie as not aging well, it’s perfectly acceptable and appropriate. We also need to look back at when it was made and what were the norms back then. Walt Disney also pushed to get James Baskett an Oscar for his performance and was the first black man to win one and one of the only people to win an honorary Oscar for a single performance
It’s not undertones it’s blatantly offensive the movie is about a former slave who talks about how nice his slave masters were and makes slavery look like just a pleasant job in the field
@@Steven-bh2be exactly. People are trying to dissect is when it's very straightforward
@@Steven-bh2be I'm not trying to discredit what you're saying but have you seen the film before? I've seen multiple people who have seen the film say the film isn't racist at all and then heard others say the film has it's racist moments but overall isn't that bad. I don't know what to think.
I really think Disney should add this film to Disney+ or something so more people can see the film and have a more informed discussion about it instead of people only having surface level knowledge of the movie based on what they've heard people say in videos and possibly spreading mid information.
Scooby Doo it’s not racism like saying I hate this group of people but the movie glorifies slavery that is blatantly racist and yes I’ve seen it
The new princess and the frog ride is gonna be so whimsical and cool!
im so happy that disneyland is gonna finally have a ride for my favorite disney movie, also love ur videos! :)
J: How did they make it 22 years without lap bars?!
I went on a log flume in the Australian SeaWorld, and it was a near 90° angle with no lap bar. I was at the front. I nearly fell out, at the top. May I say, that was scarring indeed.
I have mixed feelings on the proposed changes. On one hand, unless you know where the ride originated, no one would have any idea about the racially insensitive origins. Also, I don't like things being changed just to appease the mob. On the other hand, Disneyland is always changing. When the movies came out, they changed pirates too (wasn't a fan of that either).
All that being said, I like the idea of changing the ride to Princess and the Frog. It's a great movie, beautifully done, and one of my favorites. And that whole section of the park can be reimagined. The hungry bear restaurant can be changed to Tiana's Place, for example. At Disneyland at least, not sure about Florida.
"Around here, however, we don’t look backwards for very long. We keep moving forward, opening up new doors and doing new things, because we're curious … and curiosity keeps leading us down new paths" - Walt Disney.
Well put
I think it is a bit of a stretch to claim it is to appease the mob since Disney themselves seem to have been aware that it was a bad idea for at least 30 years.
Daniel Stewart but they’ve waited all this time to announce the change in the midst of the current political climate.
Great quote.
I grew up watching Swiss Family Robinson, and I was sooo sad when they changed the tree house to Tarzans treehouse! And Tarzan is one of my favorite movies, but I want the old treehouse back.
"Princess and the Frog' will work out wonderful for Disneyland due to its location(New Orleans Square) and I'm excited for the refresh of the ride! However, in my opinion, it won't really work here in Disney World due to the fact that it's in Frontierland. So here's my suggestion- "Davey Crocket's Frontier Adventure' You can keep the log aspect of it, while in keeping with the theme of the land:)
Also, and I might be alone in this, while I have seen the movie and there are multiple bootleg copies out there, I feel like Disney needs to release 'Song of the South' for a one time showing (with a disclaimer in front of it and a behind the scenes of the movie and how they are going to change the ride) on ABC as part of a "Wonderful World of Disney' special. This way, people can watch the movie for themselves and formulate their own opinion instead of just hearsay. Disney has kept this movie in the dark for so long and people have been so curious about it. Again, it's just an idea and I'm probably the only one who thinks it's a good idea.
Princess and the Frog is in NewOrleans which is in the South
Aly Herzog, You aren't the only one who thinks they should re-release here in America, I do too. Oprah Winfrey and Whoopi Goldberg have also urged Disney to re-release it with a Disclaimer, to facilitate a dialogue about how race relations have changed in American History. Disney is trying to sanitize history, by keeping this Film in the dark.
We need an Emperor’s new groove ride!
I like to think the ride has moved past it’s origin, it’s sad to see it go, however comma if it were to become an Emperor’s New Groove ride i would wholeheartedly support that
Last time I was this early, these socks were still amazing.
wdym? these socks are always amazing
@@evievolutions because at the end of every video they used to say "ThEsE sOcKs ArE aMaZiNg!!" and they stopped doing that
I miss that 😔😔
I do miss that though :(
I just realized that when I was a kid, the final room in the Carousel of Progress was futuristic, but it’s now all a reality.
I was at Disney World a couple weeks ago and I was so surpised to learn that the "future-y, tech-y" section was added in the 90s. Blew my mind that they predicted today's technology so accurately.
Can we get an Escape to Witch Mountain anything at Disneyland?
I actually watched song of the south when I was a little kid. Somehow we managed to get a copy of it.
When I watched it, there weren’t any blatantly racist mentions that I could see. It just seemed like an old movie of a man with great story’s and a little kid he told the story’s to. I now understand how they would say it’s racist, and I get why Disney would do it, but I’ll still miss splash mountain.
Uncle Remus was a real person, and former slave, who told his tales, the Brier animal stories, to a young white man who wrote them down. My family has a book from the 60s with all of them. So thats how I knew the stories, so I was never confused by the ride.
if it helps, i'm pretty sure the ride itself will be the same. just the characters and backgrounds will be changed to be princess frog related instead.
in my opinion they should keep it
I agree. Splash mountain is my childhood, and I saw the movie a couple times as a kid. I do remember a few iffy stuff in the film, but the ride did a good job of keeping that stuff out of it. I’m going to miss it a whole bunch
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honestly i belive that under no sircumstance is this OK
Some of the characters from Song of the south - At least Br'er Rabbit, Br'er Fox and Br'er Bear - are very regularly featured characters in "The L'il Bad Wolf" comics. Br'er Bear especially occurs as a side character extremely often in these, and for me he is definitely one of the more recognizeable and, despite him not being very interesting, likeable characters in Disney.
So while they originate from a controversial film (and its a shame they did), I'd say the animated characters themselves have largely moved on from being associated with these controversies.
Also their designs are simple and cool and feels very Disney and I like them.
My grandma has Song of the South on VHS because she was notorious for recording movies when they played on TV. I grew up watching that movie and thought everyone else did 🤷🏻♀️
Oh my gosh, so many things I loved about this video!
Number 1: Not just you! I watched those all the time at my Grandma's house! (I don't mean to make you feel old) I wish they'd put them on Disney+, my favorite is Disneyland Fun!
Number 2: I love Reginald!
Number 3: I also love Carousel of Progress! My grandpa actually went to see it at the World's Fair debut in 1964. And yes, the song is quite a bop.
Number 4: My favorite ride is Expedition Everest in my favorite park, Animal Kingdom!
I’m really going to miss those characters and that song.😞
Im glad at least I own the movie so I can still see the characters and the song. The movie isnt as bad as everyone says. Sad that the US is the only country it is banned.
“Escape from Everest” that might actually be a cooler name than the actual name
Hahaha
Dang it is a cool name XD
i’m glad especially disney (since it’s so well known and so many people love it)is taking steps to make everything better especially with everything happening in the world!
I have an art’s based history class and we study’s this concept and this part of history. I saw this video to see how you all did and I love how you put it and was super happy you guys where spot on.
Wait I'm confused now because my grandpa owns a DVD of Song of the South. Where did he get it???
It's not that difficult to get your hands on copies that have been made from European versions to play in American DVD players. My dad owns two copies. One for himself and one to loan if anyone is curious about the movie.
bootleg
I went to the Disney Resort in Hilton Head/ Longview Island ans there was a cast member there named Bleu Crabbe who, when Disney had a campfire for s’mores, he would sit there and tell us where we could get the movie. It was really weird. I distinctly remember him doing it twice. He said it was in a shop in Savanna Georgia. I remember that it was in Savanna because my grandma lives there. I know that Disney stopped selling the film in America but you could get it in the U.K. Your grandpa probably got it in some bargain bin or something before Disney stopped selling it.
you can get it online, Disney did not want to sell it in the us but you can buy it in Europe
I own a copy. I live an hour from Eatonton Georgia where the Uncle Remus museum is located.
Bought it for $25.
I think it’s a very sweet movie that shows blacks and whites can get along no matter what time this movie takes place and he was just trying to make the boy happy. I don’t think Walt Disney had any intention of making it a racial movie. It’s supposed to be a family friendly movie.
I always felt like the stories and songs from Song of the South were all about just outsmarting the slave catchers. I think zip a dee doo dah was meant to be like the day they were freed. I mean what a wonderful day that would’ve been. Brer Rabbit also did outsmart the Fox and Bear to get away to safety. Much like a slave would just outsmart their slave owner to escape. So I never saw anything racist or them just glorifying slavery
Well, it takes place in Southern Reconstruction which is after the slaves were freed, yes. But the reason it's seen as controversial is because even after slaves were freed, many of them could not find work anywhere else and were basically forced to continue the work they did before. Many of them were paid very little money, and still treated badly. So the issue isn't what the film does show, but what it doesn't show. It kind of romanticizes this era by making it appear as though the black workers love to be there and were now "really happy".
Th.El.Co._1 yeah I’m sure they didn’t really want to touch on that subject since mostly kids would watch it and they wouldn’t really understand it but I think it could’ve been mentioned somehow so when people went back they would understand it better
Good for you. A lot of black ppl including myself as a kid did see it as racist & uncomfortale. Esp when we actually rode on the ride as kids & my parents had to explain the meaning behind all of it.
And… I have that song stuck in my head.🎶 “it’s a great big beautiful tomorrow”🎶
When making the ride there intent was not to support racism, it was glorifying the Character and songs not the background
"The Princess Frog" Gonna stick with me just like Moldevort and Hedpig. #KahootWithTheCarlins. And trains. Definitely trains.
what about Mr. Bob?
Glugbut the Goblic :)
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Don’t forget the infamous Cho HAWTLIPS Chang
no hate but its goblin and what about mrs.Chelsie
Honestly though, the ride itself has no racial insensitivity and just has the animal characters in a southern accent, it’s not like they have the ex slave in full costume somewhere on the ride ;(. I’ll miss it deeply
They keep the ex slave in the back or the ride, Walt Disney himself told me
but it’s still a reference. while i love the ride itself, it still makes me feel unsettled :/ i’m really excited for the princess and the frog remake
King Of Earls the ride is still there. Just repainted. If the movie the characters are from are preferably talking about slavery then it deserves to be taken down.
But the only issue is that the movie never says slavery is good. I know many people in the black community are trying to erase our American history, but the movie never says slavery is good or okay.
Its not about racism. Racism is a Trojan horse, a very effective one. Its about controlling you. Getting you to destroy your own history, so they can demoralize you into capitulation. Don't fall for it.
Splash mountain is one of my favorite rides at Disney land, because there weren’t any lap bars my dad would always promise to hold on to me during the drop. It’s my favorite memory of Disneyland
'Song of The South' isn't really racially insensitive. It takes place after the American Civil War, so the African("black") people in it are not slaves, and the movie is about the friendship between a young "white" boy and an old "black" man. It's a positive movie with positive messages. The only reasons that anybody thinks that this movie is racially insensitive are that they haven't done their research and assume that the film takes place before or during the Civil War, and the fact that Disney, thanks to Michael Eisner and Bob Iger, has not given the movie any kind of official release since 1986(other than some VHS and Laserdisc releases in certain countries), which only helps to perpetuate the notion that the movie is racially insensitive. If Disney had released the movie on VHS, DVD, and Blu-ray worldwide, there would be very few, if any, people who think that 'Song of The South' is racially insensitive. Is it a great movie? No, but it is a good movie with a positive message of friendship, and it deserves to be defended and seen.
For a movie of it's era, 'Song of The South' was actually pretty progressive in portraying multi-racial friendships when you consider that it was released during the segregation era of the American South. Disney needs to release the film on Blu-ray and make it available on Disney Plus, with bonus features included, including a feature-length documentary on the film's creation, release, and legacy. Also, to anyone who thinks that Walt Disney was racist, he wasn't. The "black" actors who were in the film were not allowed to attend the film's world premiere at the Fox Theater in Atlanta,GA, but that wasn't Walt's fault. It was 1946 and segregation in the American South was a thing by that point, as I've already mentioned. Walt hated the fact that the "black" actors weren't allowed to attend the premiere, but, obviously, there was nothing that he could do about it. Walt made it possible for James Baskett(the actor who played Uncle Remus and Brer Fox) to get an Oscar for his portrayal of Uncle Remus. #ReleaseSongofTheSouth and #BringbackSplashMountain.
It’s been a solid minute and there’s already 80 comments 😂😂😂😂
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Yes this the internet
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The real question is, what is MMWONK?
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It was explained very clearly in the video as the sound a rhinoceros makes when it is happy!
@@shigeminotoge4514 Ah, I see. Thx!
I dont understand anything you said
Pull the lever, mmwonk! :)
Mr. Toad's Wild Ride. You are not alone with growing up with Disney Sing-along VHS. My family still have many of them
seeing you reminisce on disney WORLD makes me feel bad but also yet happy about growing up in southern california and having disneyland, the og.
It’s a small world after all. I know it annoys many people (the theme song) but I can’t get enough.
I Feel Like No One REALLY Hates That Song: They Just Say They Do,Cause That's Just What You Do.
Demonic Queen My qpr wanted to dedicate a few hours to going on that ride-I actually am sick of it now, although I won’t really tell anyone I know that I am
I used to get the Disney Sing Along Songs VHS tapes when I was a kid. My favorite one was Disneyland Fun because I got to see the park and my favorite characters. My favorite song from that Disney Sing Along Songs video was "I'm walking right down the middle of Main Street USA". I remember that Zippidy Doo Dah was in that video as well (of course at that time I didn't realize where that song came from).
I had that exact same video. I remember associating zip a Dee doo DA more with roger rabbit becuz of the bit where he didn't want to ride any of the thrill rides
@@kenzihenderson5258 I did too! It wasn't until years later where I learned it came from Sound of the South. I remember seeing Roger Rabbit at the end of the song riding on a little kid's ride saying "Now this is my speed"
My favourite ride is at Disneyland Paris, it is the finding nemo ride, Bruce the shark pops up and instead of saying G'day.....he shouts BONJOUR!!!!
I never truly recovered from that, still makes me laugh today
Ok but THOSE DISNEY SING-ALONG VHS TAPES! I was obsessed! There was one song about "main Street USA" that's been stuck in my head for 2 decades now
while i never saw song of the south, i think i read a spinoff book based around it as a kid. something about the rabbit tricking the bear and the fox into throwing him (the rabbit) into a bramble patch, which wasn't a big deal for the rabbit because he was born in and lived in a bramble patch as a kid.
As a result, i kinda recognized the splash mountain characters from that book. Any racially insensitive undertones though, flew well over my head in both cases.
I think the whole movie Song of the South was based off of Uncle Remus stories adapted by Joel Chandler Harris from African American folktales. I do not know much about Joel Chandler Harris or how problematic these adaptations where.
Same! I had a Briar Rabbit book that I loved
TamTroll Non of the Br’er Rabbit stuff is racist from the ride or the movie for that matter. All the animated parts from the ride and movie are straight adaptions from African American folklore and fables told by slaves. The live action parts of Song of the South are the parts that haven’t aged well as it presents this peaceful racial harmony between blacks and whites and the idea that blacks loved working on the plantations even after slavery. The ride removes these racist and outdated ideas and purely shows the story of a slave (Br’er Rabbit) outsmarting and gaining his freedom from the bumbling slaveholders (Br’er Fox and Br’er Bear). Them falling under pressure is completely ridiculous because the criticism for this ride comes from complete misunderstanding and ignorance
@@lukeferraro01 Eh, yea. But I think Disney mostly just wants to update the ride to a newer movie anyway. They've been wanting to retheme it for a while.
I loved Song of the South as a kid, never understood the story back then though. Just loved the songs and animal characters.
Same, I had a Disney sing a long video and it had the "zip a dee doo da" scene on it. I never knew the racial implementations of the film until recently, I just saw it as a happy man telling fables and the ride is obviously a favorite. I love Princess and The Frog so I think it will be a cool update, but I definitely understand the nostalgia and attachment a lot of people have (myself included) to splash mountain
I have loved that movie so much as a child. It was released in America because I had one of the original releases. I'm not particularly sensitive to race and as a child I only understood that the black man was very wise and had suffered but choose to make a cultural sorry like Briar Rabbit a powerful lesson for the next generation. Only after being a teenager did I understand that he had been in slavery and his cherry disposition was an artifice but that still didn't take away the meaning. Bad things happen, you get into trouble, and try to rise above or be better than you were. I still find it so powerful.
The movie is about a young boy having difficulty dealing with his parents' separation. Uncle Remus gives him support and life lessons through his Brer Rabbit tales. This is what he teaches:
- You can wind up in more trouble by trying to run away from your problems instead of staying home and dealing with them.
- Sometimes intelligence is better than brute force. "Being little, without much strength, sometimes you gotta use your head instead of your foots."
- Go to your "laughing place" when you're feeling down.
At its core it's a wonderful movie with excellent performances by James Baskett and the incomparable Hattie McDaniel. It saddens me that people want to erase this like they want to erase "Gone With the Wind" as that movie would be nothing without Hattie's academy award winning performance. Similarly, James Baskett is what makes this movie. The things that make people say it's controversial are barely there, not even the focus of the movie. I understand the concern, but I don't think it's as bad as they make it out to be. How do I know? I've seen the movie myself.
You are correct. The fellow in the video has clearly not seen the movie based on his description of it. He is just believing and saying the things he is supposed to believe and say.
The princess and the frog concept art looks pretty cool
Pull the lever Kronk! Just love that movie! I have never been this early. I think I remember the movie. I was born in 1965. I've only been to Disney World. However I was so sick from a stomach virus 😖I couldn't ride the one ride I wanted to ride as a little girl......The spinning teacups. It's the only thing I wanted to do. Maybe one day when this pandemic insanity ends I can take my granddaughter!
R.I.P Splash Mountain
Disney park theory. Fun episode. Aladdin has a roller coaster segment, but rumour has it that was modeled off a Knott's Berry farm coaster.
Being a person who was born and raised in Florida, and had annual passes every other year (switching back and forth from Universal to Disney) I never even knew it was based on a movie. Or knew the meaning behind it. I just saw a water ride and wanted to go on it. I will say, kinda happy I got to experience that ride without the lap bars. Never knew those got added, by then I had moved out of Florida. Though I can see them being needed, I always felt like I was gonna fall out during the drop.
Hey what's up I love this idea it's pretty great which is amazing. I think it will be amazing to have something new.
Agreed!
I remember "Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah" from those singalong tapes, and I remember wondering why I didn't know anything about the movie it was from when I was a child.
Sorry, I’m a 50 plus woman of color and LOVE “Song of the South “ movie
You are an awesome lady. It's sad these days to see unintelligent people trying to destroy the history of this country without doing true research about what they're destroying. As the saying goes, "if you forget your past, you're doomed to repeat it.
D 1 4 ? it’s a disneyland ride...not a historical stature. they refurbish rides all the time, racist or not
People just don’t understand. I’m sure Song of the South is a cherished movie for many. It’s not a racist movie. Only the real racists have a problem with it.
Thank you for not being disrespectful to Splash Mountain while telling the history of it. Fantastic!
I was scared cause you hadn't been posting lately and didnt do the kahoot ! Hope yall fine !!!
What do you mean they just posted a video 4 days ago
I love the carousel of progress! Whenever we go, we get cream cheese pretzels to eat on the ride. Haven’t been in a long time though
One of my brothers' friends loves Song of the South and Splash Mountain! (He's 11 so it's completely innocent to him) my other brother is super mad at the change of Splash Mountain. Also we always have to do Country Bear Jamboree when we're at Disney! Dad loves it!
THIS IS MY FAVORITE VIDEO YOU'VE MADE YET!!!
I'm a MASSIVE Disney Parks lover and I was waiting for someone to make this video!!
I’m from Ireland and I was meant to be going to Disney World Florida for the first time but then Coronavirus happened sooo....... 😭😭😭😰😰😰
OMG I'm so sorry 😭 moment of silence for all of the fun summer plans that will not happen this summer 💔
PNGVids I know how you feel. I was supposed to go there for the first time too this summer. I’m from California and I have a pass to Disneyland so I go there all the time, but I’ve always wanted to go to Disney world.
I had plans too buddy lol
Aw I'm so sorry. I was also super excited to go with my friends on a band+choir field trip to Disney World, but at least I had already been there twice before, so I wasn't too terribly upset when it was cancelled.
Dash 2302 I have a pass too! Sadly, we only have a week (two) left after Disney reopens so we may not go back for a long time. Word on the street is that you can’t even HAVE a pass to go throughout the year anymore!
I’m quite sad to see it go.... the one time I went to Disney World the line was extremely long and we were on a tight schedule, so we skipped it. Now I’ll never get to ride it 😕
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a chicken I’m sorry to hear that😔 maybe one day
From what I understand the ride itself is going to be exactly the same, the “decorations” are just going to be different.
I went on it once and it is my favourite attraction ever. I'm really sad to see it go. Like Disney why change a winning team/ride
Did I just hear "What a bop??" Talking to Alepsa? I grew up in Orlando, FL and we were always going to the parks. You just explained the biggest dilemmas of my childhood. Thank you!!
Not just you. TO. THIS. DAY. When my mom says "is everybody ready?" I have to yell "TO SING ALONG! WITH DISNEY SONGS! it's Disney Sing-Aloooooooong!" 😂 I've never seen a princess movie, but I know every Disney song ever haha
Oh! And when Disney+ was brand new, Songs of the South was on there! I remember because the description said "this feature addresses outdated ideals that may be offensive to some" or something like that.