Best 2024 OLED TVs to use Samsung QD-OLED! 3000 Nits enough?
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0:00 QD-OLED 3rd generation at CES 2024
3:05 Nobel Prize
3:18 3rd Generation QD-OLED Improvements
3:55 3000 nits at what sizes?
5:35 Overdrive means more heat, less life
6:58 QD-OLED 3rd Gen Release date?
7:14 image retention, red saturation vs W-OLED
7:32 clipping colors and skin tones
9:07 Color accuracy Out-of-the-Box
9:56 QD-OLED monitor lineup for 2024
10:41 Better text legibility, new pixel shape
11:36 QD-OLED Reference Monitors from Flanders
12:57 Can You do 4000 nits? ahem
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Did Chirag answer everything you wanted to know?
NOTE: he is with Samsung DISPLAY not samsung electronics which is the company that decided to put on the matte screen - samsung display shows off their QD-OLED panels in a semi-gloss or glossy panel but when Sony or Samsung buys the panel, they then add their own anti-reflective film and in this case Samsung Electronics added the matte AR film
No! The most important question remains unanswered! 😊 Does the S90D use the third generation panel?
S90D could be a killer if it uses the 3000 nits panel
They are using the new Ink Jet process for the new "D-Series" right?
@@johanmelis12 that is 3000 at a different white point . Someone surmised the TV will be about 2500 at correct white point and toned back a little for longer life
@@nimblegoat would still be a huge jump from the s90c.
Appreciate all your efforts and coverage this year. Great insight and details outside of the normal press releases or conventional UA-cam videos. Thanks for being such a positive influence in this wee little TV community.
The new antiglare coating is a misjudged move for me. It scatters the light on a large area of the screen, elevating the blacks, killing the contrast and the lifelike impression of the A95c.
you are right! HOWEVER, in the terrible glare/reflection viewing environment of Best Buy, it will actually look BETTER than the LG G4 or Sony A95L both of which will show reflections very clearly. Samsung is banking on winning the showroom competition and they will win it unless showrooms turn off the lights!
@@stopthefomoWell, if 😂 nothing else my congratulations to your videographer and the editing.
How do you know fabio Marco! Did you see it in person?
I'm hoping that the S90D doesn't have this new antiglare coating, which by all reports so far, it doesn't.
Then the only question left is if it uses the new sub pixel layout/gen 3 panel.
Then it will be the one to get, as it will have full bandwidth hdmi ports (as it doesn't use the one connect box, like the S95D).
@@ianjameslake but it still doesn't have Dolby!
It's good that they're making more strides of making better brightness and better picture quality but what we need from these tvs is better durability they need to be pushing for better life span for these displays because paying over 3 grand for these tvs for it to break in 3 years is not cool
Goodness me, these qd oled are HARD TO BEAT. Especially if they're going to have 2000 nit highlights and maybe like 285 full field after calibrated to a sane white point.
It's like the start of every year, "omfg 3k Nits!!!!111" then the actual real S95D once launched won't surpass like 1,6k Nits, 200 brighter than last year's model. Good to have guys like Classy...and hate to say it even QuantumTV who are both not buying into the obvious marketing fluff.
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Good job asking the right questions. We appreciate you FOMO!
FOMO I was hoping you would ask him about the Matte finish. For the S95D, will we have a choice between the Matte finish (bad idea) and a Glossy finish ? We’re already getting word that the matte finish does affect the contrast. How about dimming with SDR & Gaming ? Anything improved for 2024 ?
That is something that Samsung Electronics applies on top of the panels that Samsung Display sells to the former. He has nothing to do with that matte anti-glare coating.
2 different companies
Wow glad I waited! I cant wait to get me one.
Good that you tackled the samsung gent on sonys brightness plans.
Samsung should have given us a 83” QD OLED instead of this anti glare coating
A monitor reviewer on YT said you can get the coating off no big deal.
And void your warranty
Thanks, great video - probabaly the most informative of all CES. I am still no clear about a) is the S95D having a new processor or it's the same as the S95C? b) is there any improvement on upscalling performance?
Good point 👍
'm going to get 31.5" QD OLED this year, but haven't decided on which brand yet. For that, I hope FOMO will do a comparison review of different manufactures! Actually, I already know it won't be Samsung branded one because Samsung one will be matt. That's just so dumb. They don't listen to their customers. If they ask competition gamers, they will say matt - but they don't really care black or white. For them it's all about winning and even a small reflection can ruin their game. But, the real consumers who actually pay for it - it's clear the consumers want it glossy.
HP's Omen and Gigabyte's FO32U2P will both have DP 2.1, and I believe both are glossy. They should be the pick of the bunch.
I wonder if my S95C will end up beating out the S95D due to the anti-glare coating. Getting a full two years out of this thing as my primary gaming display would be cool, before I retire it to the basement in favor of a 2025 model 😊
I will check it out😊
hello l please help me to advise between Lg C3 and x90l I’ve been suffering for two weeks now, I don’t know what to choose (it’s just that everyone around me says that Oled is burning out 😞
FOMO would destroy these sales mens with his knowledge and experience....
I have a couple of questions , Is the improved brightness more of a software upgrade than actual hardware ? If so does that mean 2gen panels could reach those brightness numbers with a software update ? & Just picked up a second gen 77’’ qdoled panel, is it worth the upgrade ?
You are asking if they are going to make your '23 look as good as a '24. No would be your answer. Probably not possible, they did mention changes to the pixel structure.
Stop the FOMO, your tv is already awesome!
Doubtful. He mentioned that it is a software AND a logic (processing hardware) upgrade. I don't think you should upgrade your already great TV. Every year there will be improvements and maybe even more next year if they adopt the new blue phosphorescent OLED material for their panels.
Hi Samsung tv QN 900d recver tuner to tv dvbs2 or dvbs2x?
As much as I am impressed, I can’t but worry about screen burn, maybe Samsung should take a note out of Panasonic book for the heat dispersion
Why not just have a tiny refrigerant condenser with active cooling? They are near silent. You could foam around it. Or use a active noise canceling speakers that come on just to specifically cancel out the condensers sound
I'm wonder if higher rated peak brightness panels gives you more headroom against burn in compared to a lower peak brightness panel, imagining the same usage for both panels?
That’s what I was thinking. Higher brightness CAPABILITIES can mean longer lifespans and less burn in since you won’t need to crank up the brightness percentage on the tv compared to previous years, and still get the same effect.
Still no 83” QD-OLED!! Why 😢
I'm currently looking at a Samsung and Sony. I've got a 12 year old plasma Samsung that's been trouble free and although Sony has the best processors in the market I'm just at a loss as to which brand I should choose. Due to my age it's probably the last TV I'll ever have to purchase unless I live to be 100 which is highly unlikely.
Then buy the TV from big sellers like COSTCO AND SAMS CLUB for better and LONGER warranty! I got my TV from Costco w FREE 5 years warranty!
Loving my new Alienware 32” with Samsung QD-OLED panel
Thank you , I am looking forward to your qnxx90D . 👍
When is Brian buying the 115 inch tv? More seriously since the frame is selling well for Samsung, it makes sense that they try it on the flagship, with the extra brightness, maybe the contrast will be ok.
Brian is holding out for the 2025 wind turbine powered 156 inch Hisense micro -nit ultra orange quantum injected model with the No-connect box !🤣😂🤣😂
Is it used for samsung qn 800D same processer like qn 900D please reply
900D for sure has the latest processor but specs about the 800D was not available at CES so we'll have to wait until closer to launch to find out
Whats best Buy? for 2024.
Lg c3,lg c4 of Samsung s90d ?
Max size is 50"inch for me.
at this point i will wait for next year (2025) for Sony to use the panel from Samsung Display on their next gen qd oled and deliver the best tv
wow... no i want an 83" model of this even more
Wonder if it now supports dts passthrough
U7K 100 inch selling for under 3 grands now here, dang got to admit that's a good deal, if you have the space and room.
MY 8K MINI LED IS ALREADY AT 4000 NITS FOR QD OLED TO GET THAT BRIGHT IS AWESOME
Just bought the s89c. should I return it and wait for the s90d upgrades?
nope, that's a GOOD PRICE. It's unlikely the S90D will be that much better than the S90C. The flagship performer will be the S95D so if you were planning S95C, I'd say wait but the S89C, S90C are both so good already and priced as a midtier TV. Samsung made the mistake of making them too good last year so this year they will push the S95D hard to make it better than the S90D while keeping the S90D similar to S89C/S90C. You're good!
My 77s90c 1200 max 1300nit.
The brightness is so phenomenal after switching from the LG OLED C1 800nit that I probably won't chase the 2024 model, especially since the TV is only a month old. 😂 I had a Samsung q9fn, the brightness is great, but the QD OLED 77s90c model has similar brightness, better color coverage and maximum I don't need more black for Ps5 or Xbox Sx.
I'm afraid that LG will stop sending the matrix to Samsung.
What’s the price on the 32 tho?
Just want to know if the S95D will have Gen3 at launch or if Samsung Electronics will use up the rest of their Gen2 panels first.
we won't know for sure until i get the S95D into the studio - samsung electronics would not reveal panel sourcing information at all
@@stopthefomo Looking forward to it. Any chance they’ll launch late February/March like last year or are we looking at later in the Spring?
I doubt they would want to confuse people and fudge their new product launch. They will probably run them off as S95C's.
Waiting for Sony to use Sharp's QDEL panels.
Love color volume of qd-oled but wary of Samsung quality control and unwilling to pay rediculous Sony tax, so I may likely get LG G4
This CES was so hype, seriously. I don't say that often, but the range of new QD/OLED of high refresh monitors has me excited. There was even a quantum dot display by Sharp!
No mention of the black out problems me , my son and a few of his engineer friends had with the s95c all 4 us replaced our s95c with either a g3 or A95L no blackouts. They have had issues with thar one connect box for years and refuse to fix it . I have to give lg credit if they had a black out issue they would address it . I bought products from Marantz and denon if any of there products have a hardware issue they very next year model they fix , and some times create a device to fix the issues , I receive a hdmi 2.1 box from Marantz when they were having those hdmi problems, Samsung isn't doing that. Just leave their customers high and dry .
I agree that Samsung customer service is trash and non-existent.
@shanew7361 Yes it is a nobody calls them out on it , If it were LG who had blackouts for 6 years straight these you tubers would , would give LG hell .Samsung doesn't give a f.
Samsung is sketch AF
Hey buddy 😊
85-88 inch pleaseeeee Samsung
Unless ANY OLED can reduce the glare as much as neo qled can I'll be buying the QN90C this year (85").
What about an ultra wide 5k2k monitor for use with Mac mini
Ultrawide is curved right? I'm not a fan of that personally but as long as it's 2024 model year it should have the new pixel shape for better text rendering
This channel should really be renamed to 'Start the FOMO' XD
But can it do Dolby Vision?
NOPE, and unlikely ever will unless DV pays them!
Samsung without DV is the same as Sony and LG with DV because they have it but it doesn’t work or look so good. Sony A95l have issues with it. I was hoping some update will solve that problem but nothing,i really regret for buying that model.
I'm still holding out for blue pholed!
Wait fot it in the year 2026-2027
Since this is a software upgrade, what are the chances that the 2023 models get a bump in brightness
Antiglare is a no go and no Dolby Vision too.
Samsung doing a typical Samsung move
Without Dolby Vision, doesnt matter anymore.
I just want to point out the problem with direct lighting on the QD OLED.
At 10:34, 11:25 and 11:33, one can clearly see that in worst case scenario the WOLED 27 monitor had better contrast (blacks) than QD OLED.
It really didn’t in any of your time stamps
Hdtvtest last year had measured the blacks on QD OLED to 0,00005 nits, black enough yes, but less abyssal than Woled for sure, i saw that with my own eyes in many stores
@@NexGenTekthen you are blind, in all time stamps the 27 inches monitors WOLED was way darker
@@KryssN1 OMG are you really comparing blacks by comparing the brightness of the screen! The demonstration is to show the brightness difference lmao 😂! It’s a oled no matter how you slice it
@@NexGenTek the QD OLED had way raised black to to lighting condition, it almost looked gray as LCD
Dang, I wish you would've asked if there will be a 5120x2160 39" and 45" QD-OLED to compete with LG's upcoming offering.
5120 x 2160 = 21:9 4K Ultrawide.
The 4090 would struggle to run most AAA games at anything higher than 60fps without the garbage DLSS 3 frame generation.
PC gaming isn't ready yet for 5120 x 2160.
Maybe the RTX 5090.
Samsung is seriously taking it up to Sony. Great for consumers.
the 3k nit oled's battle is nice but that 10k nit 110-inch tv was a monster this year has some nice tv's for sure.
Love how they are using the Sony monitor as reference to compare images to the latest panels. This only validates Sony even more and the company’s that are making the panels as suppliers are still going back to Sony and that brands technologies to make their products better.
It has nothing to do with validating Sony. Sony mastering monitors are the only brand monitors currently in use for film outside of an outdated situation (previously LG as well years ago). All brands have no choice but to currently use Sony monitors at this time as a reference unless LG or another brand takes that position.
What would be ideal is if Sony were to actually make their own panels instead of them relying on Samsung and LG Display. That actually validates Samsung and LG if anything as neither company comes to Sony for anything in their television sets.
@@icemanandbobtechandgaming I think too many people focus on this panel conversation bc it’s just a part and doesn’t make the tv pictures, that’s why the TVs look different. Also people don’t know or forget that Sony made first Oled screen/monitor, the first quantum dot 4k LCD tv over a generation ago. People always take credit from the original innovators and people are uninformed and always remain uninformed or confused and that forms the ac of knowledge they have, thus forming the option because they have a limitation on what they know. Hope people start to learn more as time goes on goes on.
3,000 nits at what color temperature? D98 D95 D65?
Philips oled 808 model surpriz auper super super
I prefer the ‘23 model. It’s almost like the PSHs are “blooming”.
Where is the greatest showman scene lol?
Rebecca Ferguson singing as Jenny Lind? Wonderful woman...we're all very fond of her
Gotta love how normal processor functions are now called AI enhanced. 😂
Then you run a color test, and it's white point is miles too high, and colors are overblown to have 'more pop'.
I mean, because he's working for Samsung, we can take what he says in this video with a grain of salt, but he was bragging about how accurate the colors are in the 2024 model. Maybe there won't be a white point issue for this years models.
I do agree about AI. It is the new buzzword of the 2020's, especially the last 18 months.
After seeing the big leap in the next Gen 3 QD-OLED my question is will Sony stay as it seems. Or will Sony announce new QD-OLED tvs with a consumer Mini LED with 4000 nits to Match TCL tvs???
If Sony stays put will they lose market share??
Lastly I have heard great things about Panasonic new TVs. I wish Panasonic was in the American market given us more choice.
You can get them from Value Electronics. They can even calibrate it for you before it leaves the door.
@@bearclaw5115I believe that's no longer true.
What I see in interview of Brian talk with the best electronics Sony build can you say we do new Meni lead on a great time lead with new engine control on and improve the lead if it's is big jump off sony
All this technology in TV's wat about making a 8k player
I know its the better tech ; but let's see real world comparison against lg .
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Wow! They must have gotten the worst LCDs to compare to or they messed with the settings. That black washout is way overexaggerated.
Brightness aside, can I watch 10 hours of microsoft excel every day on it?
for me 1 % window is large too.
Samsung will never make any TV better than a SONY.....
Yea tired of that soft image
Well, most people would love cheaper tv first which Sony hardly are.
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ABL just kills the fun and there is no way that 87C will not make the tv burn in
OLEDs should have a PC setting so it doesn't burn in the icons
Never having a problem just hide the taskbar and use a screensvaer option on the PC being active after 1 minute
@@wblebon what about all the icons on the top for the browser? Or just have a PC setting that doesn't burn in
@@RossMalagarie never had any burn-in thou use the screensaver on pc if not browsing always used it mine active after a minute
I understand that the patent for MLA expires in 2025. Will Samsung use this tech in 2025?
Hisense 77´´ 8k 10.000nits 😳
But can i get it in matte 😂
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If there are no improvements to processing (which there are none this year) then the brightest most colorful display can't disguise the soft detail-poor image of Samsung QD Oled's, which has the weakest Blacks and least 3D depth as well.
A95L and G4 are gonna be the Top Dogs this year.
LOL QD-OLED 3000NIT=400W+=😵😎💣💥🔥
1000 nits is almost too much and you can get great HDR with it.
In a word, NO! You have a lot of content graded well above 1,000 nits. The brighter the TV means less tone mapping required to deliver the intended picture.
That 1000 nits QD-OLED reference monitor is 10x better than those garbage "3000 nits" consumer QD-OLED, why is full screen brightness of consumer OLED still so pathetic.
matte 🤢🤢🤢, imagine paying $1200 to have someone smear literal shit on your screen
The 23’ model looks better to me through this video atleast but I think it’s just the camera
I think the '24 is blowing out his camera!
@@bearclaw5115 I agree cause in that one sunset scene the 24’ looked considerably better! I’m considering a new oled to replace my 65 C8 this year maybe next.
Love Matte! this TV is for people like me who don't want to go insane from the mirror like reflections and seeing yourself sitting on the couch on every dark scene. There are plenty of glossy options on the market still for the rest of you.
Such a bad move by Samsung
Anti glare is bad thing very bad thing, for brightness it will be bright at lunch and then thry will release updates software to dim it down hhhh as Always
Still only 77 inches? BORING !!!! Who cares!!! Let’s go back to Hisense. Or LG, I’d still settle for Woled if they don’t at least have 83/85.
83 QD-OLED or bust!
@stopthefomo you sure are a Samsung fanboy
Seems very unnecessary, I already have to squint during certain scenes watching a HDR movie at night.
65 »77´´ please top 5 tv 4000nits Samsung sony heisen
Only extreme fanboys will say QD OLED doesn’t do certain things much better.. if this doesn’t convince people they will never stop being brand loyalist
Click bait!Don't watch.
What was the most impressive tv of the 3 and rank them: lg g4- samsung s95d- panasonic oled 2024
hello l please help me to advise between Lg C3 and x90l I’ve been suffering for two weeks now, I don’t know what to choose (it’s just that everyone around me says that Oled is burning out 😞