This was not here 2 years ago when installed outlast+... 2 years in with water, milk, cooking oil spills and drips, it still looks as good as when i first installed it. The scratch resistance holds up really well.. drag my couches, chairs, dining table, I'm impressed it left no scratch whatsoever.
Great video. The only thing I'm doing different is I'm removing and then reinstalling all my baseboard for a cleaner look. Somehow, I don't like to add unnecessary moldings. More work in doing so but I won't have to miter all those added moldings.
So if this flooring is going into a kitchen with an island, the flooring can’t be laid under the cabinets? I’ve always ran my flooring under cabinets, leaves a better finish so no 1/4 round has to be used. But it doesn’t sound like you guys recommend that? Some clarification would be appreciated.
Home Depot tried to charge me $1800 for leveling a concrete floor. Hired own contractor to level - got refund on HD installation. Combined leveling and install for way way less than HD prices. Don’t use HD - I suggest getting the HD estimate just to see how much money you will save by hiring an installer directly.
Show to cut angles or like in closets. Not just a perfectly square room. I recommend the hammer method.. just don’t hammer the wedge or spacer to tight and not be able to get it out
What type of blade do you use for a circular saw for Pergo? I cannot find that information anywhere and I've bought 2 blades now....still trying to find the right one.
Thanks Pee Wee 'The Rock' Herman-Johnson. This was actually the best video we've seen on installing this floor. Super helpful. Now look up both Pee Wee Herman and Dwayne Johnson.
Everything I read, laminate expands or contracts at 1/4". Depending on the season you install, you may want to adjust the gapping to 1/4" if you don't want a gap to show and don't want to use quarter round.
My floor is outrageously uneven. It's old, severely damaged and the floor is slightly warped. I wanna put this laminate on it but I'm uncertain if I'd be able to do that due to how bad the floor is and I really don't want to put a freakin carpet over it nor do I have the money to get the original and damaged wooden floors replaced. I actually picked out a beautiful color of Pergo laminate wood flooring for the room already. I just need to know if I can put this down or if I have to find another way to get nicer flooring first.
Same dilemma here, wish you would have gotten an answer for this, my house is over 100 years old and seems to me like it was built without a tape measure, a square or a level lol! Ol' hillbillies here in Ky didn't give a flyin F back then, they probably built the place for a case of beer and a quart of moonshine lol! But hey! I got a hell of a view!
If your floor is severely damaged then you will have to replace the subfloor underneath or make the patches where necessary. If you don't want to go through all of this work, then vinyl planks are always an option. I suggest going with something such as Cali Vinyl if you like the Pergo look. They feel very similar, but are a bit more lenient when it comes to your floor being even. Vinyl is water proof and is also a lot easier to install. Considering this was 7 months ago, I am sure you have already fixed your problem. If not I hope this helps or gives you an idea for a future project.
Sounds like you would need a pro. If its that bad there might be something going on underneath that you don't know. But it might just have to ripped out sub floors if it's not concrete. Or you can try cutting out the bad and matching it and refinishing the rest. But that sounds like a nightmare
I dragged the pointed end of scissors over a Pergo Timbercraft sample and got barely a mark. The ad is implying that the floors are pet-proof. Also took a hammer to it and no dents. Presently I've got a bottomless cylinder sitting on a caulk bead filled with water over the seam to see if water will leak through. So far good. I submerged one sample in water for 5 days. After 2 it was fine, after 5 it swelled and buckled- ruined. I plan to put throughout the home, including kitchen.
so bought a batch to do a room... basically a few pieces "lock" in, but the rest simply will not. I've spent about 6 hours now, trying different "methods" and fixes none have worked. Are these just inferior products or am I just unlucky buying a bad lot. So tired of wasting my time at the moment.
@@EngineJoe32 I returned them and went with hardwood flooring much simpler and was done in a few hours. My wife was pleased with how the bamboo look. Never going to purchase pergo again.
Sometimes they produce defective pieces but dont recall the batches right away.. I have been installing Pergo for many years in our properties and never had issues until 3 years ago. First time I had issues I blamed myself. Second time got frustrated and called the store to see if I was doing something wrong. No matter what we did we could not get them to work right. Some left gaps, some would not snap in and lay flat. Home Depot told us to just bring the ones we had issues with in for an exchange. We gave up and just returned the entire order. Months later we saw several pallets with the exact planks without packaging identifying the product at an auction.
I am going to try to install this product I just have one question I hope somebody can help me? Why is the first row of planks cut so short and not installed full width?
Are you talking about ripping the first row planks so they're narrower than full width? They kind of gloss over the reason around 7:20, but basically it's so that you don't end up with a row on the other side that's too narrow. I think the instructions that come w/ the flooring do a better job of explaining that, including what the minimum width for the 1st and last rows would be.
Blackdog4818 depending on the side of the room yes, over all it depends on which side you start with. You want to match one side female to start with and end on the other side with male and vise verse if that makes sense
Because if you leave the tongue, but hide it under the quarter round, you'll only have 1/8" vs 3/8" space against the wall or molding. You need the 3/8" to allow for expansion to avoid buckling. (ie: 3/8-1/4=1/8)
Too much missing info. Read the instructions. Read the list to tools required. I have no printed instructions or tool list. Guess I will look elsewhere.
Wow. Sounds like this is way too intricate for some people. Must be why installers are getting rich ! This could not be any easier to install and maintain
Lol this stiuff is a nightmare to install in vinyl form. The first row is great. Row two, impossible. Doesnt slide in, tap it in and all the other pieces come apart. It's horrible.
Love it when people critique videos made by the actual makers of the fucking products, as if they know better.... like, "yeah but your are installing it wrong" smh
This was not here 2 years ago when installed outlast+... 2 years in with water, milk, cooking oil spills and drips, it still looks as good as when i first installed it.
The scratch resistance holds up really well.. drag my couches, chairs, dining table, I'm impressed it left no scratch whatsoever.
This guy looks like "the Rock" duane johnson. Very helpful videos
Great video. The only thing I'm doing different is I'm removing and then reinstalling all my baseboard for a cleaner look. Somehow, I don't like to add unnecessary moldings. More work in doing so but I won't have to miter all those added moldings.
i seen tones of videos about the laminate floor fitting on you tube but this video its the right i do the same as on the video 👍👍👍👍
Where is the Pergo underlayment?
You showed how to scribe against irregular surfaces such as rock. Now what do you do to hide the 3/8" unsightly gap that remains?
An important question that needs an answer. +1
You can use a flexible caulk in a similar color or quarter round. Otherwise you're stuck with the gap.
So if this flooring is going into a kitchen with an island, the flooring can’t be laid under the cabinets? I’ve always ran my flooring under cabinets, leaves a better finish so no 1/4 round has to be used. But it doesn’t sound like you guys recommend that? Some clarification would be appreciated.
Yeah no don't do that
That method can be used but less material is used if you cut around the island, cabinets, etc.
The cabinet weight will bind your planks and prevent movement and possible buckling I've been told and read
Home Depot tried to charge me $1800 for leveling a concrete floor. Hired own contractor to level - got refund on HD installation. Combined leveling and install for way way less than HD prices. Don’t use HD - I suggest getting the HD estimate just to see how much money you will save by hiring an installer directly.
Show to cut angles or like in closets. Not just a perfectly square room. I recommend the hammer method.. just don’t hammer the wedge or spacer to tight and not be able to get it out
Cool looking dog.
After all the preamble about using vapor barrier and underlayment they show a whole installation with neither?!? LOL!!
There's underlayment attached to the underside of the planks. All other extra underlayments are optional. The vapor barrier is for concrete floors.
What type of blade do you use for a circular saw for Pergo? I cannot find that information anywhere and I've bought 2 blades now....still trying to find the right one.
Instead of using 3/8" can we just do 1/4"?
Thanks Pee Wee 'The Rock' Herman-Johnson. This was actually the best video we've seen on installing this floor. Super helpful. Now look up both Pee Wee Herman and Dwayne Johnson.
Our pergo is only 4' long tho I would have loved to use something longer.How can we install it to make it appear longer?
What's the point in scribing if you're going to leave a 3/8" gap?
Steve Yager 🐰🤪
So you can see what kind of floor you used to have silly.
Whats the point of your comment when your opinion makes no difference?
@Kbarmike I think he's asking about scribing against the uneven stone wall. You can't add quarter round against it so what do you do then?
Aaron Spencer I believe they recommend using color matching silicone for gaps that can’t be covered with base trim or quarter round
Having trouble with the locking mechanism. Two corners have a tongue that make it difficult to install.
Is 1/4 round necessary if you remove the baseboard first?
No, but quarter round will give a bit more wiggle room.
No, just put on thicker baseboards. That's what I do, I don't like the look of quarter round.
Everything I read, laminate expands or contracts at 1/4". Depending on the season you install, you may want to adjust the gapping to 1/4" if you don't want a gap to show and don't want to use quarter round.
Does Pergo flooring require a wood sub floor over concrete
No
My floor is outrageously uneven. It's old, severely damaged and the floor is slightly warped. I wanna put this laminate on it but I'm uncertain if I'd be able to do that due to how bad the floor is and I really don't want to put a freakin carpet over it nor do I have the money to get the original and damaged wooden floors replaced. I actually picked out a beautiful color of Pergo laminate wood flooring for the room already. I just need to know if I can put this down or if I have to find another way to get nicer flooring first.
Same dilemma here, wish you would have gotten an answer for this, my house is over 100 years old and seems to me like it was built without a tape measure, a square or a level lol! Ol' hillbillies here in Ky didn't give a flyin F back then, they probably built the place for a case of beer and a quart of moonshine lol! But hey! I got a hell of a view!
If your floor is severely damaged then you will have to replace the subfloor underneath or make the patches where necessary. If you don't want to go through all of this work, then vinyl planks are always an option. I suggest going with something such as Cali Vinyl if you like the Pergo look. They feel very similar, but are a bit more lenient when it comes to your floor being even. Vinyl is water proof and is also a lot easier to install. Considering this was 7 months ago, I am sure you have already fixed your problem. If not I hope this helps or gives you an idea for a future project.
Sounds like you would need a pro. If its that bad there might be something going on underneath that you don't know. But it might just have to ripped out sub floors if it's not concrete. Or you can try cutting out the bad and matching it and refinishing the rest. But that sounds like a nightmare
I think you already know the answer...you just don't like it...
3/4” 1/4 round looks bad, it should be shoe moulding, but what do i know
Where can you get that tapping block in the UK?
I didn't stagger them or even worrie about an Expansion gap. I simply put them down an lock them in place. EASY
What type and color is the floor on this video? I’m looking to install the same in my house.
Can't wait to buy a house so I can start doing projects like this.
I don’t have too clear the division of the planks and the width of the room
This video really needs to be updated with steam mopping since many of the laminate flooring now says steam mop approved
Do you need thresholds around islands ? Or transition pieces ?
3/4" quarter round molding....or did you already figure it out?
Is this Dwayne Johnson the Rocks brother 😂
Yes, they call him the pebble.
The pebble?
Interesting that several other sites caution against using laminate with pets, and the ad is with a Great Dane.
I dragged the pointed end of scissors over a Pergo Timbercraft sample and got barely a mark. The ad is implying that the floors are pet-proof. Also took a hammer to it and no dents. Presently I've got a bottomless cylinder sitting on a caulk bead filled with water over the seam to see if water will leak through. So far good. I submerged one sample in water for 5 days. After 2 it was fine, after 5 it swelled and buckled- ruined. I plan to put throughout the home, including kitchen.
If you have dogs. I would not recommend this flooring. the flooring is water resistant, but not water proof!
I feel like this is a deepfake of Dwayne "the Rock" Johnson.
lol
😂😂😂
Ah shit now I can’t unsee it
"Tiles Normally don't have to be removed"
....shit.
😂😂😂
so bought a batch to do a room... basically a few pieces "lock" in, but the rest simply will not. I've spent about 6 hours now, trying different "methods" and fixes none have worked. Are these just inferior products or am I just unlucky buying a bad lot. So tired of wasting my time at the moment.
Did you ever find a solution? I have this same product and ready to burn it
@@EngineJoe32 I returned them and went with hardwood flooring much simpler and was done in a few hours. My wife was pleased with how the bamboo look. Never going to purchase pergo again.
Sometimes they produce defective pieces but dont recall the batches right away.. I have been installing Pergo for many years in our properties and never had issues until 3 years ago. First time I had issues I blamed myself. Second time got frustrated and called the store to see if I was doing something wrong. No matter what we did we could not get them to work right. Some left gaps, some would not snap in and lay flat. Home Depot told us to just bring the ones we had issues with in for an exchange. We gave up and just returned the entire order. Months later we saw several pallets with the exact planks without packaging identifying the product at an auction.
I am going to try to install this product I just have one question I hope somebody can help me? Why is the first row of planks cut so short and not installed full width?
Are you talking about ripping the first row planks so they're narrower than full width? They kind of gloss over the reason around 7:20, but basically it's so that you don't end up with a row on the other side that's too narrow. I think the instructions that come w/ the flooring do a better job of explaining that, including what the minimum width for the 1st and last rows would be.
Yeah its to even out the look of the whole floor- so the two end pieces are smaller instead of one small row.
Does it make any difference whether you start with the male or female in front of you?
Blackdog4818 depending on the side of the room yes, over all it depends on which side you start with. You want to match one side female to start with and end on the other side with male and vise verse if that makes sense
thanks pergo, im going to use this technique on my trafficmaster laminate.
good jobs
I don't see the point of cutting off the tongues if you're going to use quarter rounds.
Because if you leave the tongue, but hide it under the quarter round, you'll only have 1/8" vs 3/8" space against the wall or molding. You need the 3/8" to allow for expansion to avoid buckling. (ie: 3/8-1/4=1/8)
excellent work plan
I love how they say its water proof but don't get it wet.
Too much missing info. Read the instructions. Read the list to tools required. I have no printed instructions or tool list. Guess I will look elsewhere.
"Inshtructions" 🤣
Wow. Sounds like this is way too intricate for some people.
Must be why installers are getting rich !
This could not be any easier to install and maintain
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So he didn't even mention the most important part; SQUARING OFF THE ROOMS. 3-4-5 anyone?
3/16 in 10’, wow
Lol this stiuff is a nightmare to install in vinyl form. The first row is great. Row two, impossible. Doesnt slide in, tap it in and all the other pieces come apart. It's horrible.
Love it when people critique videos made by the actual makers of the fucking products, as if they know better.... like, "yeah but your are installing it wrong" smh
This guy looks like a white Dwayne Johnson...
This guy looks kinda like the rock if he was skinny with grey hair.
That's why they use a moisture barrier.
eew
PERGO FLOORING SUCKS !!!!!! After you mop it several times it starts rolling up the plastic coating over particle board !!!!
Left Overs can you use a steam mop on low steam to clean these floors?
Which Pergo flooring? You never said... and you're the first I've ever heard say this. Nothing but praise from most people. Thanks.
Pergo sucks. I’ve used several better laminate products.