Heating my home with a Chinese diesel heater.
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- Опубліковано 19 січ 2023
- After watching many videos about chinese diesel heater setups, I have built my own. Choosing some ideas and tips from others that suit my needs. I'm heating a two bedroom bungalow. Details about the heaters can be found on other UA-cam videos, this one is only to show my own setup. I don't have links to items I used but have suggestions to what to look for below.
🔴 Before anyone else comments on the ducting not being insulated, once videoing was finished and I’d shown the ‘Y’ piece and reducers, it was insulated in an industrial grade silvered bubblewrap. 👍🏻
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Loved the sound of all the starlings and sparrows 👍
That looks tidy, I have a similar set up in my garden shed/workshop. I had the heater inside but it was a little noisy so I boxed in the underside of an outside workbench and piped it into the shed. Mounting the fuel pump onto something more solid than the flimsy steel on the heater cover really helped the noise. Works a treat tho.
Good setup, the diesel heater produces dry air, and blowing in from outside means it’s acting similar to a PIV positive input ventilation system, (normally Loft fitted) producing a slight pressure in your home and escaping through gaps and holes etc, slowly pushing out damp air and introducing fresh dryer air. I’ve got a PIV in my loft and will be setting up my diesel heater similar to you in the summer. 👍
YES, someone who gets it…. you’ve got it ‘bang on’. 😀 So many people have said “you need to recycle the air from indoors”. I have positive pressure = no draughts. I have fresh air = no condensation on windows. Yes, I may be using slightly more fuel, but the benefits outweigh that. I did look into PIV but no longer need it. We all learn tips by watching others videos and using bits that best suit us. Good luck with your set up and thanks for your positive comment. 👍🏻😀
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have you got heater installed in front of the PIV system for your house?
THAT is a brilliant idea! Im fitting one of these in my camper build so I think I'll put one in the house too!
Great job, I think we will start to see more and more of these types of installations. Just make sure your outside socket has 30mA RCD protection if you haven’t already. Especially if you use the spare outlet for a lawn mower etc.
I agree, this is a great idea, and will definitely increase in popularity. My concern going forward, will be how long is it, until these are outlawed in someway by the authorities.
Fantastic video Rob, very interesting I've never seen this type of heating before.
It looks very simple to set up, I think I may have to look into it myself.
Now that is a smashing good installation!
Very neat. Well done.
Excellent build
Great set up , have been thinking how best to use this heater for my garden office and your explanation and set is perfect a big thank you for sharing
You are welcome. Good luck.
Good job , well done
'I've got one for both holes' cracked me up because that is what the wife is always saying ha ha ha ha ha , nice job on the installation has given me a few idea's form my external setup.
Hi Billie. You’ve obviously got a very understanding wife. 😄 I’m glad you picked up a few ideas. That was the idea of the video, to show what can be done, keeping it tidy and useable. Maybe you will make a video to show us your set up when you’ve finished. Cheers. 👍🏻
@@en53kff Can do but it is looking a bit Frankenstienish at the moment as I have zero skills and zero confidence. I will post as soon as it is running unless I blow myself up in the build.
Nice setup. I think the reducers are good for the airflow, since you split the output air hose in two. I also like how you didn't use a permanent attachment to the house. I think your heater will last longer since it's not sitting out in the heat and humidity of the summer.
Also, Poe insulation 😏 would make it go further
Nice install 👍
Cheers Martin. 👍🏻
Its a great install, they are quite efficient I know a lot of friends using them.
Hi Richard. Yes they are efficient. Have you not thought about joining your friends and getting one? Thanks for your comment. 👍🏻
Great video mate. Thank you. UA-cam at its best
Thank you 👍🏻
Ingenious 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Nice well thought out install..........Cheers
Thank you. 😊👍🏻
Nice job. I've been planning something similar for a while. Everyone should be doing this until prices come down to something reasonable.
exactly. if the price of diesel gets to be not economical for use in these heaters, we are all going to be having way bigger things to worry about than heating our homes! at that point, the world will be on a fast track to shitsville, as diesel is the world's most used fuel for shipping infrastructure (both road and water) and would mean a cataclysmic ripple effect in the world economy.
a lot of people like to shit on the chinese for intellectual property theft, but god bless em....without them we'd all have to spend $1000 or more on the webasto or eberspacher units.
china numbah one!
I can only see fuel prices going up, we ain't seen nothing yet with this insanity gaining momentum as we do nowt to stop it.... 😕
You can always buy fuel from lorry drivers, especially the ones from abroad. Just approach them and say you want some fuel.
Usually it's £1 per liter.
I personally think wood burner is much better option as you can get wood for free
Great video........sounds like it works perfect
Yes Lee, it works just great and I’d do the same again. Thanks for your comment. 👍🏻
Nice video. Good quality on the video and talk. Looks very nice, good work. 🎉👍
Thank you very much!
I’ve bought one of these heaters ready for my shed build. I’ve also been looking in to the condensation problem I have in the house and a PIV SYSTEM Positive Input Ventilation where you pump fresh air in to the home from the loft space, creating positive pressure which cures the condensation.
When I first saw you were pushing fresh air in, my first thought was better to recycle the air, then you mentioned the condensation and EUREKA you’ve got a PIV system at a fraction of the cost, think I’ll have to order another heater 👏👏👏
Hi Paul. Yes, I’ve seen those PIV systems and by all accounts they’re very effective . How they compare with a diesel heater I wouldn’t like to say. Many people like to quote that I’m “doing it wrong” by drawing in air from outside and I didn’t design my set-up lightly or without lots of studying of videos of others. You read advice about opening widows and letting in fresh air when folk complain about condensation, especially in these winter months. But I’m basically doing the same thing. Maybe you should try one heater for your house, then, if your happy with the results buy the second one for your shed. Another point which most people don’t realise is, when you provide the positive pressure, it eliminates any draughts, and in doing so, helps keep out the cold.
You watch, I’ll still have another viewer come on here tomorrow and say “you’re doing it wrong”. Anyway, it’s my set-up, it works well and I’m happy with it.
Hope yours works out for you and thank you for your comments. Cheers. 👍🏻
look up HRV units. there is a small company called acurasee that makes them and they aren't thousands of dollars either. same concept, cheap price.
@@en53kff So if I put this in the loft, would I need to cut a hole to the outside to feed air in? Any pointers on youtube videos or maybe some sort of diagram to explain this.
As soon as I saw a video on these diesel heaters, I've been looking to see if someone used it for their home and you're the first. I'd love to figure out how much cheaper it is vs the code of gas or electric. My house has very poor insulation so if I'm here next winter, this is something I'd like to implement. Thanks very much for the detailed explanation and your reasoning.
I installed mine inside a utility room I made. Used a wall Timbal for the exhaust, air intake is inside, ired up to a wall mounted home furnace thermostat with two time delay relays and a power supply.
Sounds like you’ve got it sorted there John. Yes, I’ve seen timbals used a few times in different circumstances. You’re obviously happy with it like I am with mine which is what counts. Cheers John. 👍🏻
Very well done.
👍 Nice job
Nice job, i've got one of these for my shed, works out at between 5p and 9p per kilowatt hour depending on diesel price, which is great in comparison with 34p per kwH for electricity!
ive run mine off kerosene with no issues for about 7 weeks now and its only about 70+vat a litre
@@nigeldancy Nice, do you have to buy a lot to get that price ?
How are you getting diesel so cheaply?
@@paulharrison2325 red diesel ? 🤔
@@paulharrison2325 I got normal diesel for anywhere between £1.70 and £1.90 but some on YT have said they get red diesel for as low as £1.30.
Nice job iv got a diesel heater so this looks good set up
Cheers bud. 👍🏻
Well done.
Nice clean job
Very clever my friend
Thank you. 👍🏻
That’s actually a fab idea lol. We converted a camper. Might use one in the home.
You may want to consider drawing your air that’s to be heated from inside the house. I used to draw mine from outside and like you said about condensation, the near zero temps prevented the burner core from getting to full operating temperature. The result was it sooted up in no time and shut down. I luckily got way without stripping the unit down. I now run a pipe from inside the building and no problems since. Lots of moisture traps and job done 😎👍
When they leave the factory the heaters are not tuned to your circumstances - air density, temperature or humidity, regardless of where in the world they are going to be operated. Where it sits will also make a difference, for instance, how much air it manages to draw and at what rate the hot air expels. I’ve tuned my heater, in situ, in minus temperatures, to its optimum, having to increase the fan speed but reduce the pump rate. My infrared thermometer confirms heat value at both high and low rate plus no visual smoke or moisture output at the exhaust at any stage of the burn. Im happy that it’s running at its best and won’t soot up, especially as I’m running on diesel only and not some concoction. Thank you for your interest and indeed your comments. 👍🏻
@@en53kff for how ong did you use it like that in colder times
@@punisher288 Ihave it on in the morning for a couple of hours and then again in the evening for about six hours.
If you do it like you're describing, you're pulling heated air from inside your building into the diesel heater and ejecting it out the exhaust. This is wasteful. This also pulls cold air from outside into the house through cracks, reducing your efficiency and creating very cold drafty areas wherever sealing is not perfect.
I can't recommend what you're doing - there are better ways to address the problem.
@@itsumonihonunfortunately you don't understand positive presure principles. Drawing intake air from outside stops cold air entering the house through unsealed gaps, no cold spots.
Brilliant 🎉 well done 👍🏼✅
Thank you! Cheers!
Lots of good tips, like the 60mm concept. On my project list for next autumn. Heater prices are silly right now.
Thanks bud. 👍🏻 Yes I think the 60mm works well, especially when you’re splitting the blowing output. More force behind air pressure out of each exit. I bought mine literally the week before prices rocketed.
@@en53kff where did you get the swivel ducts from?
@@RD-qp3mu www.bowerspartsonline.co.uk/brands/eberspacher/air-outlet-vents-accessories/eberspacherwebasto-heater-60mm-ducting-rotatable-closeable-air-outlet-vent-black-9012300a-1320206a
I found these were the cheapest, UK shipping not China, also in stock.
Nice job I've fitted one into conservatory and working fantastic actually heating 3 rooms and not on too high a heat. Found your problem with the cold draught when turned off and bought a similar close able 75mm vent from ebay , only had it blowing 5 minutes at 25 degrees and it started melting and deformed like it was made from plastercine 🤨. So hopefully the vent you purchased will be available in 75mm or I'll carry on stuffing with a tea towel 😀 👍 keep up the good work.
Genius👌🏻👍
Interesting indeed my friend. Cheers
Thank you! Cheers!
Great video with some great tips
Wish I bought one a while back as they have virtually doubled in price
Yes Gary. They shot up in price a week after I bought mine. Thanks for your comment. 👍🏻
Good vid thanks.
Nice 👍👍👏👏
There is one more modification you could make in order to recover some wasted heat and make the system more efficient: Extend that air intake (the bigger one for the heated air, not the small air intake for combustion) by a few metres with a well insulated tube, running in a straight line. Then make a hole in it just big enough to poke the exhaust pipe into, as close to the heater unit as possible. Run the exhaust pipe down the middle of the air intake tube, such that the flow of the exhaust gases goes in the opposite direction to the flow of the air intake. Ensure that the exhaust pipe is at least a metre longer than the air intake tube, so that the final exit of the exhaust is a good distance away from the entrance to the air intake. Then put some thick insulation (of a non-flammable type such as glass fibre tape or rock wool) on the short section of exhaust pipe between the bottom of the heater (where the exhaust pipe starts) and the hole where it goes into the air intake tube.
This will turn the intake and exhaust combination into a counter-flow heat exchanger: The cold air entering the air intake tube will be heated by the hot exhaust pipe running down the middle of it, recovering some of this otherwise wasted heat and making the hot air flowing into your house even hotter. This should significantly increase the temperature of the air flowing into your house for any given power setting, or allow you to use a lower power setting than you would otherwise need for the amount of hot air you want. These diesel heaters are essentially heat exchanger systems anyway, this modification just makes it more efficient.
I must have seen like a hundred videos about these heaters. This is probably the best suggestion I've heard so far as with regards to improving efficiency.👍👌.
Great idea 👍🏻
Just equipped my van with an Eberspacher recirculating diesel heater. It was fitted professionally under the left side next to the main fuel tank and I have the hose into the van but it’s not wired up yet. -1’ last night so sodding freezing in the sleeping bag!! I must get it wired in! 😅
Mark, when it’s wired in you’ll love it. In fact I’ve heard of people having them in the van and they get too hot. A good brand the Eberspacher too. Get it sorted, you’ll sleep like a baby. 😊
Looks like you’ve done a great job there. Only one thing I would do insulate the pipes you can get some pipe insulation. Would you just keep the temperature up good job, 👏👏
Thank you for your comment. In the video description, it says that the pipes were insulated. I did this once the video had been made.
Love it. Care to take a look at mine with heat recovery both exhaust and air recycling and also dehumidifying.
Great video! An update on the cost benefits of heating with one of these would be another good video 👍
ua-cam.com/video/mVf1TwbLKqQ/v-deo.html Hi Jack. Thanks for your comment. 👍🏻 There are so many videos out there on every aspect of these heaters that I’d only be repeating what someone else has already done. I made my video purely to show my set up. However, I have given you a link to a video where a guy shows you how to work out the costing, dependant on how high you have your heat set (pump rate) and with different fuels. You may have to make some adjustment in calculation if your fuel is a different price, but the maths are all there. It’s a quick video so you may have to replay it a couple of times or pause it. Almost anything you need to ask is covered by someone’s video, it’s just a case of a quick search on UA-cam or Google. It’s how I learned and got hints and ideas. Good luck with it. All the best. 😊
Jack, you may be interested to see comments from Nigel D & also from Gary McKinnon. 👍🏻
Great thankyou for your quick replies and help, I will definitely check them out! Keep up the good work ✅
ua-cam.com/video/4tiSEGO6pYI/v-deo.html This guy goes over cost and alterations to improve. Hope this helps.
Small solar cell on the roof of your outdoor cabinet , charge controller and small deep cycle battery, be fully off grid option then.
Thank you for your suggestion. I am going to look into a small solar cell. Cheers.
What a progressive word we live in, going back to oil heating
Is "what" a progressive word?
Tell it to the government
That is one off stupendous comment on I n telnet
"Net Zero" is the name of the expensive boondoggle.
My main fitted boiler runs off oil
The exhaust pipe can exit the building using the same method as a wood burning heater using a metal duct and a metal inside liner.
Yes you are correct. That’s not what I wanted though in my build.
Thanks :-) 👍
Nice installation, I done similar project I used plastic storage box/bench from B&Q as heater housing, I decided to buy one of these heaters after this last cold wave we had here in Ireland, and big impulse to do this was my gas bill :P.
Due to house configuration (terrace) I was only able to do one outlet in the kitchen but still all downstairs get nice cosy warm after while, my wife love it she was sceptical on this but now she use it all the time. We use about 10-15 litres of green (lower tax) diesel per week , 1.10 euro per liter so is not to bad IMO.
Hey, good for you. 👍🏻 it’s a good feeling knowing that your house is warming up and you’re not paying through the nose for it. It sounds like you used your initiative when looking for a box to put it in. Great idea. Some people criticised me for using timber to make my box saying it was a fire hazard. But as you know, it’s only the exhaust that gets hot and as long as that is safe you are good to go. I’m using lower tax diesel too and a similar amount per week. This idea really seems to be catching on now even though the price of the heaters has doubled. Good luck with it and thank you for your comments.
@@en53kff I used bit of this stove heat resistant sealing rope to cover gap between exhaust pipe and hole I drilled on the side of the box I was checking that for few days with IR thermometer and no problems, I had to cover this gap because sometimes wind blow some exhaust gases back to the box as I don't have to long exhaust pipe. And yea only exhaust is really hot but if you keep 1cm clearance all will be OK. I used it with battery and charger now I have 30A power supply (power cuts are very very rare here) not sure yet what I will use in the future maybe I back to battery.
Anyway keep warm greetings from IRL
Lucky with the green diesel - how do you buy that, as a heating fuel as opposed to for a car?
@@luckyphil_01 just at my near petrol station they have separate pomps with kerosene and green diesel.
Of course you can use this to your car but from time to time you can be stopped at checkpoint and they check sample of your fuel on spot. If they noticed traces of green diesel in your tank I think 🤔 you on trouble.
@@luckyphil_01 Hi Phil. Here in the UK it is dyed with a red dye and hence we call it red diesel. It is sold at its own pump at our local filling station. Before you can purchase it you have to fill-in forms and show ID and say what it is going to be used for. It can’t be used in any mode of transport but it’s okay for personal use in heating. You are then given paperwork which you must show each time you want to purchase. The attendants do watch you fill your containers and check that you are not putting any in your vehicle.
cool setup. the only thing I would add is to insulate your ducting pipes going into the house
Must be about the tenth person commented on that. After recording the video showing the ‘Y’ piece and the reducers, I later insulated all the outside ducting.
A friend did the same, these heaters are everywhere. But he is spending 80€ a month on heating oil/diesel plus a bit of gas for the main heater in the rest of the house. Asked him why he did not use an air condition (air air heat pump). He hat no explanation except that is costs 1200€. Well.....better heat, no fumes and cool in the summer and its cheaper long term. I heat/cool my house only with an air air heat pump, simple, easy to install, low costs. Runs 8 months of the year with PV modules on my roof. Dont have to buy any oil
Nice i have the same
Thank you, good information. Haveyou considered lagging [insulating] the 75mm discharge tubes ? My shed heater draws and discharges air from within the shed and the discharge tube runs quiet hot, wasted heat in your case and tubes being effectively finned dramatically increases surface area.
I was thinking the same thing. I recently bought 10m of high quality weatherproof exhaust lagging for my boat for ~£25. The manufacturer says it keeps in up to 50% of heat. Even if in the real world you only get a 10% increase in efficiency, this will pay for itself in mere months.
Thank you.
Good set up ideally should think about insulating the hot air pipes into house outside as you will get heat loss in freezing weather.
Already done. 👍🏻
Very nice set up
@@WEYMOUTHHARBOUR Thanks Steve. 👍🏻
Have you got a video of the appliance running please.. nice set up by the way.. ps, what does the temperature get up to in the room ? .. thanks. Dave
@@davidpunchard5698 Hi there. I don’t have a video of it running. I could do one but there are many out there already on UA-cam, It’d just be another of many.
The control unit lets you set the temperature of your room. I set mine usually at 20c. The heater runs at full until it reaches 20c then you can hear it quietening down almost to a ‘tick over’ to maintain that 20c room temperature.
Richard Baker did some good work measuring the air speed and delta temperature on what was sold to him as an 8k diesel heater and this output was closer to 3kw not the 8kw he was sold. The 8k might be kilo calories not kw. If you are comparing electric rates you may not be getting what you thought. But still lower cost with the higher energy cost.
Too true, of all the tests of 8Kw heaters I’ve seen, only one reached 5Kw with the rest between 3 and 4. A bit like the Chinese headlights/torches that advertise 100,000 lumens 😂
Looks okay to me I put mine in a metal box outside and I like drawing in the outside air as well but I would say with those lengths of pipes that you have heading in the house for the Heat Ducks should be insulated
I was thinking same thing there’s going be heat loss due to no insulation
Yes, the pipes were insulated once the video had been made.
Loosing heat through piping, cover in loft insulation. I did i my caravan heat trunking.
Already done with industrial grade silver bubble wrap. 👍🏻
Hehe, mate, your voice is very close to Anthony Hopkins voice 🎉...nice setup !
It would be better to use the metal flexible exhaust pipes(extended) to create a small radiator for the taste gases so that it can distribute the heat before it goes out cold(or much colder). That was it's a double heating system. In addition, what fuel are you using? I use half diesel and half recycled sunflower oil. To purify the old oil, make a paste of Baking powder and water, add to warm old oil and then bring to a boi, stirring constantlyl. It will get most if not all the impurities out, which saves you from using several filters of diminishing sizes.
Looks great, a sound check?? inside and outside, might be worth another vid
You can run these heaters on domestic heating oil which is much cheaper than diesel.
Great job! The 2 long hoses with heat air must have thermal insulation !!! otherwise it will loose to much heat an poor efficiency when outside temperature drop.
As much as I love my diesel heater I don’t think I’d consider using it in the house 🤓 nice job though regardless 😊
It's outside the house
Looks awesome , i just purchased the 8kw unit , what size is yours ? I too am seriously considering an outside setup like you have .
Hi Really like the set,was thinking of fitting one myself.
Can you tell me where you bought your rubber bungs and your insulation for your outside pipes please?
Regards Mark
Have a look into using quilted foil insulation wrapped around the hot air pipe
Hi Nate. If you read through previous comments you will see that I have already done this. Cheers. 👍🏻
@@en53kff gotcha 👍
Just something to think about I'm seeing a lot of people now putting a egr cooler in the exhaust line and then being able to run a normal radiator and then doubles the heat
Yeah, I’ve seen that. It’d be extra work and expense when I don’t really need it. I admire the people who go the extra mile though. It just shows you what can be done. My set up suits my needs right now. Cheers.
The only concern to me is the exhaust pipe ends directly under the window.
But great video and install. Thanks for sharing.
Yes, but the window remains closed over the winter.
I would add automotive filter on the inlet just to minimize dust to be blown into the house
You got to find an air conditioner for summer to put in the box ;)
Yeah, for the one week a year that it gets hot enough to use. 😂
Amazing setup, and thank you for sharing! I have a little tip - if you want to get rid of clicking sound of the fuel pump just hang it on elastic bands or zip tie, it will become almost silent. I have a question about the exhaust fumes. The house it's not a camper, it doesn't move. Does the fumes cloud builds around your house? What about your neihgbours, any complains?
Hi Den. I’ve never had an issue with the clicking because of its location. I don’t hear it inside the house. Although I have heard of different methods to quieten it as you suggest, but never needed to change it. As for the exhaust, there are no clouds as such. I get no visible signs, no smoke or moisture content and no obvious smell either. I have seen videos where smoke bellows out but can only assume that is more to do with what fuel they’re using or the heaters settings. As I live near the sea it is nearly always breezy and so imagine any fumes are quickly dispersed. My neighbours aren’t close enough to be within earshot of the heater. I do have an oil fired central heating system which has a large heater and is outside, albeit in a brick built shed type construction. . If I turn that on, it is 3 times louder than my diesel heater although not annoying loud. I’ve never had a complaint about that either. Hope this answers your questions. Thanks for your interest. 👍🏻
I love the comment section on these type of vids everyone becomes a "know it all" but never installed or used a diesel heater! Its comical
Looking into this for the winter, did the control unit come separately? All the heaters ive seen has the controller attached to the unit
Great installation. Just buy one for the room of my big Son which is not connected to the house - the room not the Son, but not so sure 😉- . Do you know if I can extend the exhaust pipe and put it verticaly over the roof? Thanks for sharing!
I'd cover that pipe with rockwool or fibreglass. More heat goes into the house
and less lost in transit.
Yep, it was all insulated soon after making the video. 👍🏻
Very informative and good video. Just spotted it , after I have just completed an almost identical setup at my house, to heat my conservatory. We live in a rural area with no mains gas, and we use Kerosene in our oil central heating anyway, so after reading that these heaters run great on Kersone, I bought a cheap hand pump and it only takes minutes to take 5 litres of Kerosene from the filling point, on our main oil tank to use in the diesel heater, much cheaper than buying diesel at the pump.
Only a couple of things I have different, from your set up, which I thought I would share is that I made my external box from non combustible cement board inside and out, fixed to a cheap timber frame. I got the cement board from Wickes and is fire resistant and is weatherproof and can be painted. I rendered it with a one coat render to match the house. I made the lid from a old sheet of thin steel.
My extended exhaust has a gravity run on it to remove any moisture in the pipework. I upgraded my exhaust silencer and this has a hole in it to drain any condensation.
On the inside of the conservatory ( I only have one inlet), I originally had the same grille as you have but noticed that when the heater was on full blast, the hot air was red hot at the outlet but the air cooled as it passed through the room and gave a slight cold draft further into the room. I solved this by buying a cheap £18 mini convector heater from Amazon ( Oypla frost convector heater) and fitted it in front of where my duct inlet grille was, after removing the electrics from it and cutting a hole in the back which I extended the diesel heater duct into. I also fitted a couple of metal grille type baffles inside the convector to direct the air flow upwards sligthly, which also heated up with the heat from the air flow. Result was a big improvement on just having the outlet , with no noticeable cold draft anywhere in the room and the convector heater body gets hot ( as it is intended to do if used with electricity) and this provides a further area for convected heat in the conservatory. All my walls and anything entering the house are non combustible, so no fire risk anywhere , and even if the heater caught fire , it is contained outside, within the fire proof housing. I also have my battery charger / monitor inside with an extended 12v cable going outside. I can check the battery state easy on the charger / monitor led lights, and don't have it on all the time, only usually before I turn on the diesel heater and when it is running. I also fitted a battery same as you have, as I may need the heater, when our power goes out, which happens a few times most winters.
Sorry for rambling on, but I think your set up is great and I would share my own installation details for anyone else to consider if they are thinking of this type of installation. The diesel heater has been an interesing project for me and cost me around £250 for all the parts and although we don't use the conservatory much throughout the winter, if we do want to use it , then the cost of heating it is much cheaper than the electric heater we have been using previously.
Very interested in seeing more of your installation. Just buy one for a small room out of the house.
Kerosene is diesel
@@kyleop1 Hi, I am afraid that is not correct. Kerosene is fractionally distilled at a higher temperature than road diesel, making it a lighter fuel with smaller molecules and is more volatile. I pay 77p a litre for my kerosene from the heating oil supply company and it is about £1.45 a litre for road diesel at the pumps.
@@user-pu7jk4jj8k Diesel engines run on kerosene and vice versa. It's a tax issue mainly, government scammers yet again.
Kerosene it's not diesel
So sorry that this was necessary, but a pragmatic solution to a difficult economic problem. Could I also suggest a de-humidifier in the house? They are very inexpensive to run, and reduce your energy costs more than their running costs - an additional benefit is that they prevent black rot and other 'damp associated' problems (including condensation).
Indeed. I run mine 24/7 and costs about £1 a day. Saves £2 a day on heating I’d say
Yes, I have a de-humidifier running 24/7 over the winter months.
@@en53kff So sorry that it is necessary to run a de-humidifier so much, but they do work well when needed. My thoughts are with you. Have you explored all the ways that damp is entering the home? Have you tried hanging your recently washed clothes out of doors before 'finishing them off' indoors? Do you have some air circulation in each room? (Windows do need to be opened for a period of time regardless of the temperature. ) Wishing you all the best. G.
I was surprised when didn’t mention insulation on those exterior hot air ducts? Very nice install. Bought one 5kw version recent and installed six metres of 75mm alloy chimney flue lining. The entire length radiates heat plus even lowest setting warm air is expelled at the outlet. Be ideal if the fan setting was independent from the diesel consumption, more speed at a lower setting preferable.
Yesterday I added insulation along the lengths of ducting and it does help a little. I’m using industrial grade thermal bubblewrap, wrapped and tied with nylon cable ties.
Depending on which model controller you have, it is possible to adjust both the pump settings as well as the fan setting. Here’s a link to a video showing how, and tuning the heater to be more efficient.
ua-cam.com/video/SmCYQu53umk/v-deo.html
@@en53kff Spanner icon top left button that is controller in use. Must be the most basic controller? Tried getting into settings very little adjustment. The link is Tony’s site. I should have checked the controller was that seen in the video that tipped me over direction of purchase. I had been pondering for years to buy Diesel heater more serious since installation LPG shower. Which is where the pipe’s air exits into the shower room. Need to set aside some time and ask about the local eateries if I could get used cooking oil. I’d buy a second Diesel Heater to heat main house if was run on used filtered cooking oil. Glad you’re gaining some heat from the insulation every degree Celsius counts these days. Look forward to the insulation video😎👍👍
I was thinking about doing this at my house, I hadn't thought of splitting it between two room though. Had you thought about insulating the pipes coming in to the house? They must be losing quite a bit of heat.
Hi Jamie. Yes, the pipes were insulated after I shot the video. I wanted to show them in situ beforehand. They are insulated with industrial grade silvered bubble wrap. I used an infrared thermal thermometer to check the heat loss both before and after insulation. The insulation is very efficient. Thank you for your comments.
ive had mine in since December the 18th and cut my combined electric/gas bill from £240 to 110 ish ....i run of kerosene aswell lovely and cheap i leave mine running all the time with my house being open plan with the stairs in the room it heats upstairs lovely to 21oC only cool room is the kitchen but i can deal with that
Hi Nigel. That’s great that you managed to cut your fuel bill. I haven’t put a price on mine but it’s quite a saving.
Incidentally, I’ve just had a comment that said “I seriously doubt that’s a cheaper method of heating your home”. Just what can you say to that?
How much are you paying for kerosene where you are? Do you have to buy in bulk?I’m running on red diesel from our local garage at £1.30a litre.
Is the saving including your price of kero to run the heater?
Nice set up. Might get one of these for my new garage. How much diesel does it use in a week?
What about the gases that the bsttery gives off while charging??not worried about them being explosive?
Thanks for the video.. I just got a new diesel heater and thinking to do something similar. Is the neoprene duct suitable for very high temperature? Also, have you put the neoprene as an inner sleeve or within a metallic duct? :)
Hi Jorge. Yes it is designed as heater ducting and will take high temperatures. No I don’t have a metal duct, just the neoprene alone, as a sleeve. www.t7design.co.uk/neoprene-heater-ducting-60mm-2-36-id-x1m-f02-53e-5b1.html
Hi,very interesting, thinking of doing something similar, what amp hr battery did you use please,guessing 50amp hrs will do?
Also, you might want to think about using a solar panel to charge the battery for those longer power outages. You will continue to have heat with no electricity from the power company.
Hi. Yes that’s always an option to look in to. It could be one of those temporary fold away solar panels that you get out just when you need it. I shall have to price them up. 👍🏻
@@en53kff still, you did a nice looking job on it.
@@IMJUSTBILLUNO Cheers bud. 😊👍🏻
If you want to add a solar panel and controller as a fun little project, then fine - but the heater draws so little power that it does not make sense financially.
It draws quite a bit on startup, but once it’s up to temp the current draw is low
Really good setup, niceley done. For backup heating nice to have on hand. I am wondering, did you have estimates on costs running this all day in winter if you had to? Do you plan to use a thermostat to trickle down the heater? I am curious how much diesel you hace stored in your garage?
Hi. I didn’t have estimates as such, just viewed other videos of others on UA-cam. I have taken the control unit off the unit, extended the wiring and mounted it in the house. I can set the temperature I require on the unit. Therefore I don’t need a separate thermostat. Once the temperature is reached the units diesel pump slows down and holds the set temperature. I’ve since installed a 15 litre fuel tank to replace the standard 5lt one. I only buy and store 20 litres at a time. Hope this helps. 👍🏻
@en53kff if memory serves me it's all your legally allowed to buy and store domestically. Any more and you need a fuel storage licence.
I guess with the correct tank (500L) you would have no problems.@@stuartcraigon2003
Preheat the air entering the heater by either wrapping it around the exhaust or the heating pipe
Cool! Any reason the pipes are not insulated? Thanks!
Sure what could possibly go wrong? Do you own home owners insurance, and is it updated with this gem?
Ive got a cabin out the back. Its got the main office room then a partition for a shed. I was going to set the heater up in the shed side of the cabin. In terms of air intake should i pipe that outside? I wasnt going to bother as the main door to the shed is a corrugated door and there are gaps at the bottom where i can see the ground outside so i was hoping that would be enough to let it draw air in without much fuss.
Also does the outlet duct get very hot? I was going to pipe that through the partition wall into the main room of the cabin, the walls are lined with wool insulation and i am just a bit conscious of the possibility of starting a fire
Yes, the exhaust does get very hot. Be careful.
All of eu vill do i, thanks man
Don’t the pipes outside build up with condensation though ? How much heat is lost in the pipes outside as they aren’t insulated ? Have you had this running in freezing temps outside yet ?
The air must be cold by the time it gets in the house 😂😂😂
Why is that Gary? Pipes not insulated in the video? Maybe you didn’t read the forward at the beginning.
Brilliant videos. Unfortunately I live in the city. So my question to you or to anyone else is. Is it possible to convert or connect the heater to heat the water in my radiators of my house. If anyone knows how this can be done, please make a video to let us all know. Many thanks.
You can buy a Chinese water diesel heater will fit anywhere in your existing pipework with no trouble
Which make and model you used please i am intending to install one. Thank You kind regards
As the pipes are long to enter the house does it still keep it warm enough in winter when entering the house? has anyone thought of having the heater inside the house and exhaust just going to outside thru wall?
Yes, I have my diesel heater indoors, sitting on my fireplace since that is made of brick so there is no danger of the exhaust pipe scorching or setting fire to anything. The version I use has 4 smaller (40 mm diameter) outlet tubes, which allows me to split the hot air into 4 different rooms using 40 mm plastic wastewater pipe, with short pieces of flexible tube to get it around corners. The other reason for having the heater on the fireplace is to route the exhaust pipe up the chimney, so there was no need to drill an extra hole through the wall to direct the exhaust outside. This seems to work efficiently - I have a carbon monoxide alarm next to it which has never gone off, so the chimney draw is evidently enough for this to work.
@@lloydevans2900 Thanks for that comment, I was thinking of doing the same thing!
Interesting video Rob, but you missed out the bit I was really interested in. Did it keep the house toasty (in cold weather) on its own?
Hi Barrie. On the coldest day, -6 outside, it was reading a temperature of 14° inside the house. I turn the heating on in the morning and within an hour it was 20° at which point I reduced the pump rate to about half. An hour may seem a long time but remember I am heating two separate parts of the house at the same time with the one heater. I have no complaints and with hindsight would still go ahead and do the same again. Thank you for your comments. 👍🏻
Great job on the setup, super clean! I have one of these heaters for camping and heating the garage in the winter. My only question is would it actually be cheaper than just running your furnace?? I live in canada and it gets cold as balls, i know i've gone though almost a full tank in one night while camping in -30 degrees. I know you probably wouldn't use only this to heat your house in the winter but even lets say to heat one room on low in the spring/fall you might get a day out of the tank? Diesel costs about $1.60/L around here, so $8 per 5L tank... what I'm getting at is my natural gas bill is around $100/month so much cheaper to just run the furnace instead of using this. But I do use the diesel heater in the garage because I don't have a gas line running out there and I am thinking about building a sand battery to capture the wasted exhaust heat.
Please do u have any links to where u bought the exorst extension or any other parts. Mine did not even come with a silencer
Check out a seller called jorwetpart on EBay. Other links can be found amongst previous comments. Thanks . 👍🏻