Rare footage of Allen Wrench and El Duce
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- Rare video footage of El Duce and Allen Wrench. The night before El Duce’s death, during an interview with Brent Alden, El Duce expressed that he was paranoid and worried. He insisted that he needed to get back to riverside and “make things right.” Could he have been referring to making things right with Allen Wrench after the comments that he made to Nick Broomfield for the Kurt and Courtney documentary when he mentioned Allen’s name?
A common misconception when it comes to El Duce and his death is that people that think that he died one week after saying that Courtney love offered him 50k to “whack” her husband Kurt Cobain. Actually El Duce had come forward with his claims an entire year earlier to Hard Copy. He had done Jerry Springer, inside edition, and other talk shows. He was also given and passed two separate polygraph tests. It was during the Nick Broomfield interview that he mentioned Allen Wrench and one week later he was hit by the train.
El Duce is said have been at his band mate Steve Broy’s house earlier in the day and then was picked up by Allen wrench to go to a party. El Duce was last seen leaving said party with Allen to head to the liquor store. Over the years there have been people that have claimed that fans witnessed Allen and Duce get into a verbal altercation at the liquor store. The official story is that when El Dice exited the liquor store some fans were standing on the opposite side of the tracks yelling for him. When he crossed the tracks he was struck by an oncoming train. Steve Brody believes that perhaps his foot got stuck or that his bag ripped and he bent down to pick up his alcohol when the train hit him.
Many people believe that El Duce’s death was not an accident at all and that he may have been pushed. One theory over the years has been that el Duce actually accepted Courtney love’s offer and then left town when the murder was to take place. Then he suggested that courtney contact Allen for the job. This is all speculation of course.
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That’s so sad everybody in that room are humiliating that man preying on his addiction to alcohol People can be so disgusting 🤮
Agree 😢
Erik Blanc had a video up last week of the closing of the El Duce interview from Kurt & Courtney, where he turns around goofing reacting to a noise over the fence out of camera view. He has isolated and improved the clarity of this noise and to my ears it sounds like a child shouting 'help us'. El Duce's reaction to this is very strange - he shrieks in the camera and goes out of view to scold pointing his finger. Given the world surrounding him it certainly deserves further investigation, particularly if attempting to portray this man as sweet and innocent victim.
It's at 10:10 in the video The Assassination of Kurt Cobain - Courtney Love, Trent Reznor = EL DUCE & She shouted "Help us"
Still no answers to a fair question here.🤐
@@niallhussey8023 No, not "help us", the voice is El Duce's girlfriend who was inside his house calling him out several times by his real name "Eldon, Eldon..."
@@niallhussey8023I've heard about this several times over the years. God I hope that's not true.
This is an amazing find, because it supports the fact that the two individuals knew each other and we're connected.
@@Sheri7029 oh they were definitely connected and very very good friends
This whole film ~ The Man, The Myth, The Video is their greatest masterpiece. Their big budget promo film with the Viking lady banging a gong during their music vid is epic too.
Eldon used to have a crazy Shemp Stooges hairdo when he was in the legendary bands Chinas Comidas and The Screamers.
Eldon at the party is from The Man, The Myth, The Video. He’s also in NIN & Marilyn Manson released VHSs when both bands were living in Nola. James Moreland(C.Love’s 1st husband), Pepper Keenan, and others associated with Graveyard Rodeo were around at the same time, also eyehategod. Footage is roughly around the time Kurt n’ Court(in Frances Farmer dress) got married in Hawaii.
@@WhoKilledKurtOrg Erik Blanc had a video up last week of the closing of the El Duce interview from Kurt & Courtney, where he turns around goofing reacting to a noise over the fence out of camera view. He has isolated and improved the clarity of this noise and to my ears it sounds like a child shouting 'help us'. El Duce's reaction to this is very strange - he shrieks in the camera and goes out of view to scold pointing his finger. Given the world surrounding him it certainly deserves further investigation, particularly if attempting to portray this man as sweet and innocent victim.
It's at 10:10 in the video The Assassination of Kurt Cobain - Courtney Love, Trent Reznor = EL DUCE & She shouted "Help us"
It’s hard to believe The Screamers history is almost lost. They were the biggest influence on Jello Biafra(Dead Kennedys), Darby Crash(Germs), and Jello B. Afro(White Flag).
They never intended on doing an album, only a video album pre-Mtv that was never completed. Tomato Du Plenty & Sheela Edwards were great front peeps for the band that included two synth players and a drummer. It’s interesting Eldon got his start in a Queerpunk band and the Feminist Protopunk band Chinas Comidas(Discography 1977-80) fronted by poet Cynthia Genser. The Mentors were always a band during this time although they didn’t release their debut LP until 1985.
The Insect in Acid(the bro with dreads helping Nick Broomfield find Eldon in Kurt & Courtney) started drumming for The Mentors after El kept passing out and knocking over his drum kit in the ‘90s. The Insect was their backing vocalist on many Mentors songs and joint-lead a few times.
You can't help feel sorry for El Duce
Yeah he was meant to be a good dude
@@CutiePie-hh3gg Yup, and that is his sister speaking about him. The woman with blonde hair wearing the black sunglasses.
Allen Wrench in drag looks like Courtney Love 😂😂
I wonder if he was fleeing from someone, and in the heat of the moment, this tragic incident occurred. Alternatively, if he was indeed intoxicated to the point of blackout, as depicted in the video, it's possible that someone could have taken advantage of the situation and orchestrated the events that unfolded.
Was thinking the same thing.
Wow fantastic find 🔥 great work from you guys..
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Great find guys.
El Duce was a good guy. I’ve met and known multiple people who worked with him and they all said he was secretly a sweetheart. I’ve also known supposedly “moral people” who are morally bankrupt behind closed doors.
Erik Blanc had a video up last week of the closing of the El Duce interview from Kurt & Courtney, where he turns around goofing reacting to a noise over the fence out of camera view. He has isolated and improved the clarity of this noise and to my ears it sounds like a child shouting 'help us'. El Duce's reaction to this is very strange - he shrieks in the camera and goes out of view to scold pointing his finger. Given the world surrounding him it certainly deserves further investigation, particularly if attempting to portray this man as sweet and innocent victim.
It's at 10:10 in the video The Assassination of Kurt Cobain - Courtney Love, Trent Reznor = EL DUCE & She shouted "Help us"
It was meant to be 2 women, yeah I heard about this b4..He used to have women there with him, now if they were there against their will I do not know..
I'm going to check it out.
Wow! With friends like that, who needs enemies!? So sad. Truly. I'm super impressed that you found this!
@@debr976 It’s on their most popular vhs video that is nearly 30 years old. IDK why they never made it a DVD. The video was exhibited as a work of art by El Duce in a group exhibition titled “Love” at Cynthia Broan Gallery, NYC. It was coincidentally displayed next to a(n) iconographic photograph of Courtney Love by Michael Lavine. The exhibition was reviewed by multiple art magazines. The art video by El Duce was mentioned in all of them. His family would have been so proud of his rise to avant-garde stardom.
Very disturbing video :(
That’s hard to watch
Honestly, think the whole Allan Wrench/El Duce thing is subterfuge
I totally know what you mean, but I guess we'll have to see what Joe says. I have always felt like this story was a red herring, but it's come to my attention that there are some aspects to this story that need further investigation.
Good video ladies!
I don't mind a drink or 2 every now and then but this is disgusting. I know people are whining about them making fun of Duce, but they're all tuned up also.
when courtney told el duce to blow his head off "i got the shotgun" how did they even know about the shotgun when it was purchased right before he left rehab? it seemed like they knew about the shotgun before dylan even bought it
@@shaunsguitars that always stood out to me too. The only thing is that El duce didn't say this until 96. By then the details were out there
He seems to have been very much in the fast lane of life 😅 I think he never lied about facts as he passed lie detection test 😅
The guy who did the polygraph was a hack with a fake PhD.
You convinced me that quick...that and i always thought she paid him to do it 😂
I'm thinking maybe he was running from someone who was trying to kill him and tried to cross the tracks before the train came as to hender the person chasing him and didn't make it in time. I just wonder who that person was who chased him trying to kill him? I'm kind of on the fence that it was Allen Wrench but I could be wrong.
kinda unlikely if he was decapitated, no idea if that's accurate, but if it is, it's more likely he was inebriated/passed out and someone placed him on the tracks TO BE decapitated. obviously, that would take more than 1 person to accomplish. that party clip, if that was the night he died, should be evidence for manslaughter charges. dude wasn't even conscious and they were trying to pour shots down his throat.
Okay, now that the gross out feeling is over--and those Courtney censors were funny--videos like this is why I said you ladies need to go find Joe Burns. You need to get a bunch of photos together. One of Dylan, Duce, and Allan, but a few others too to be sure Joe IDs the right people. Just sprawl the photos out and ask Joe if he remembers any of them being there that night. If Joe can confirm Duce and Allan were Dylan's accomplises, then that will further cement the case for a reopen.
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I was thinking something along those lines too recently. Good idea!
@@TheLoneMutant we have done this. We don't need to "find" Joe Burns. We speak with him daily and meet with him weekly.
Okay. So I take Joe confirmed Wrench and Duce's involvement which is why you're pushing this angle then?
@@TheLoneMutant Joe only pointed His finger into Dylan.
I've asked WKK the same question and others as well did that and the anwser was always the same: They think Joe knows who was the 2nd person but by some reasons He doesn't wanna tell for now.
Maybe, and that's only my opinion, He doesn't wanna Wrench to get His ass "done" like others if it was Him.
Let's give that pleasure to the court if the case will be re-open to judge all those facts.
I also think that case re-opening could mean more witnesses of many things around Kurt's death, to start to speak after a long, let's call that a LAYOFF.
Thanks for the great content. Just wondering which person in that video is Allan Wrench?
Cheers
0:37 this guy!!
@ thank you 🙏
I know I shouldn't laugh but poor el duce getting pulled along with his trousers down and his legs spread apart was some funny shit😂😂..im sure he wouldent mind me laughing at that, we've all been there😂
@@eire3215 sadly, I think that most people have been there at one time or another. Especially if you had the opportunity to attend a party school 🤣 🤫
Oh yeah just think of Steve O of jack*ss. But it's something to not keep continuing that's for sure... El was around people who obviously were not good friends for him.
There is something about El Duce
For as drunk n messed up he was
He does not come off as a liar tho
For me I just sense he telling the truth
I really do!!..Courtney prob said it in a joking way just to see what he would say
How he would react
Thats what Iam thinking
There was a funny video..not surrvif its still here..But this girl was saying how she absolutley does not want him in the house AT ALL!!..And Duce is just standing outside the door looking all sad lol its kinda funny
Really great work girls! Seriously y'all are absolutely killing it!!!! ❤❤❤
Wasn't Al Jorgensen of the band Ministry hanging out and drinking when El Duce died that night at the train tracks. I'm pretty sure he claims in his autobiography that El Duce was drunk as a skunk and doing Nazi salutes or something stupid like that just goofing off and got hit by the 🚆 that way. I could have a few details off but does anyone else know about this or anything else pertinent to this supposed story? If so thanks in advance! I do think that El Duce was murdered by Alan Wrench and also think it's entirely possible that Wrench was behind Kurt's murder as well. I don't see enough evidence to believe that 100% but the way he came into a butload of cash when he was always known to be broke around the time of Kurt's passing which is highly suspicious! It's hard to know who or what to believe anymore but I do fully trust you girls and I'm really impressed with how you present this vast amount of information. ❤
Nah, Al wasn’t there but he states quite matter-of-factly in his book: on April 19, 1997, he got up in the morning to buy some beer in Riverside, California, and some kids recognized him by the railroad tracks and called out, "You're El Duce!" He was so proud that they knew who he was that he tried to impress them by playing chicken with an oncoming train. He put down the beer, and as the train came up he started sieg heiling it. Then he tried to get off the tracks but his foot was stuck under the rail. He tried yanking it out, but he couldn't. So he figured,
"Well, I'm going to die anyway," so in his last moments on earth he gave the train a few more sieg heils before it plowed him over.
I’ve never taken that account very seriously. I know Al was good buds with him but people were definitely trying to cover up a murd3r and telling everyone fluffy stories about what happened, so I laughed off that one. Poor Duce. He was a silly drunk but he, too, deserved better.
@@jennahell Thanks for pulling that up! I've been super busy today. Yeah, it's all so strange how many people shrug off the obvious murders of El Duce and Cobain. Thank goodness for the likes of Iggy Pop, Kim Gordon, Buzz Osborne, Gibby Hanes, Steve Albini (RIP), etc all spoke out publicly about their suspicions of Kurt's death and called it out as a murder. We need more of them!
This is from the El Duce documentary.
How did they find photos of the crime scene with the sheet over his body? I wonder if Eldon was cremated or if there’s a grave. I actually like the mentors
That Gwar footage was the cherry on top 😅
Whats gwar footage?
@@eire3215 the last few seconds of the video.
Stupid house and party-parasites and sad to see this
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Why didn't the people that witnessed Kurt's murder tell the police
@@damonstewart70 well there could many reasons for that. When you're either a woman or an outnumbered man that is witnessing one friend kill another don't you think that would be quite the predicament. Please don't say "well if it were me then I would've done..." Because that's ridiculous. Nobody knows what they would do until they're actually put into that situation. Joe is also an addict that went through a highly traumatic situation that just further pushed him into the lifestyle. Shouldn't we be glad that he decided to speak up now before his health takes another turn for the worse? If there is anyone that people should be upset with it is Bonnie Dillard. She knows exactly what happened to Kurt. She was there and she had admitted things to people such as Erik Blanc. Now that this is all starting to get some attention and the authorities are actually paying attention she has lawyered up. In my opinion she's no better than the person that pulled the trigger. Willfully withholding information in a homicide case. Refusing to cooperate.
@WhoKilledKurtOrg oh no I understand I'm from the streets of Brooklyn where ppl regularly get laid down. And I've seen ppl betrayed the way kurt was. Something similar ALMOST happened to me. Because I chose to live the street life alone and focus on music and arts. When I was in the hospital recovering all I could think about was the fear I had. And the saddening fact that I honestly never hurt these once friends. But that's how jealousy is,I could imagine that it be worst. In a situation where you're a worldwide icon. I really appreciate you guys explaining things to me. I've always known he was kill(which I think tons of stars are). But soaked in bleach had me thinking tom grant was a saint. Boy was I fooled,youz guys opened my eyes
@damonstewart70 yeah Tom had a lot of us fooled all while charging us to worship him! There's a lot of truth coming over the next few weeks! I'm so sorry to hear that you went through that. I grew up in the streets of Pittsburgh and while I know that isn't the same as Brooklyn, it can get rough out here too
@WhoKilledKurtOrg my cousin (from Brooklyn also) had moved to Pittsburgh. Within a month he left his place and came back to new york. Rotflmao he said they are,"as crazy as can be & still standing ". But hey I got my bell put on all notifications for this channel. And if I don't I'm going to make sure it is. I'm looking forward to the next video from you beautiful ladies
@@WhoKilledKurtOrg If Bonnie is in the salvation army, then her own doctrine would condemn her if she where to lie about this. Salvation Army are not "once saved always saved" and they are not "free grace", they are backloading works-salvationists.
(so yeah salvation army are heretics.. but in this case that means her organization would not like her lying... unless they are freemasonic shills of course..)
From Chatgpt:
Faith Manifested in Action:
While salvation is by grace alone, the Salvation Army emphasizes the importance of good works as the fruit of faith. They view acts of service, charity, and social justice as responses to God’s grace and evidence of a transformed life.
You can clearly see el duces you know what in the video. You should do a better job censoring it and repost before you get a channel strike.
@@KittyMarie1992 seriously? If you're looking that hard for it then maybe but over 800 views and not a single person has mentioned it but thanks you the heads up. The only way theyll give it a strike is if multiple people report it. If multiple people are that petty then so be it I guess.
@@KittyMarie1992 I just watched it two more times and still don't see anything uncovered. I think we're good
It was too dark to see the other parts. And hair is not illegal or wrong to show.
Whose the blonde girl in white glasses
Allen Wrench
@ seriously ? Doesn’t sound like a bloke ?
unm, looks like the coutbey impersonator in my video
@@jackhogan2077 Nose and jawline give it away.
No... That is El's sister.
Gg allin was way more punk
Gg allin was way more punk