Anyone disappointed that "The Planet of the Apes" draft was named so because of who wrote the screenplay and not because it chronicled a world takeover by super intelligent dinosaurs?
@@DareMurdok No the dinosaurs take of the world and put the HUMANS in the park on an island and all goes well until one night there's a bad storm and the humans get loose...
Have they considered making a raptor-Sherlock Holmes type mystery where a raptor solves mysteries but in the end discovers that the real treasure was the friends he made along the way?
When I heard "Jurassic Park IV" before Jurassic World was even announced, I always pictured a movie with Ellie as the main character. Since Malcolm had Lost World and Grant had JP3, Ellie Sattler would be the protagonist of Jurassic Park IV.
Her character was never really as interesting as Malcolm or Grant imo. Not the actress' fault but the character was just.... mediocre in my eyes. I even found the kids to be more interesting in JP. I doubt she could hold an entire movie on her as the main character. Grant-ed (lol) they could flush her out more in a theoretical film like you mentioned but I would rather see a sequel with hunter like Roland (maybe even the actual Roland character played by a new actor) going to the original island.
Imagine, you wake up, and you see choppers that say, “Ankylosaurus Air Support”. You then see about 5 ankylosaurs jump out with parachutes, and you run inside, as well as close the door. *AAS OPEN UP* you hear one scream, and you run to other side of the house. *THEY’RE NOT OPENING THE DOOR! GERALD, FIRE!* You then hear the door fly across the hall. The ankylosaurs then struggle to get inside because the AAS gave them more armor then they already had. There’s the plot to Jurassic World: Dino’s In The Military
When Dodson says "viable embryos", I got the impression that he wanted to grow the live embryos to study and harvest, hence the 36 hour window. However, wouldn't the DNA samples still be usuable to some degree if found?
@@BeazleyStudios it could be a possibility. But I would assume after the embryos died they might decay, or the dna might not be complete, or some weird stuff. Or they could be perfectly usable to scrape some dna from if they’ve already paid this much money for it and just won’t be able to grow them from said embryos.
@@BeazleyStudios it could be a possibility. But I would assume after the embryos died they might decay, or the dna might not be complete, or some weird stuff. Or they could be perfectly usable to scrape some dna from if they’ve already paid this much money for it and just won’t be able to grow them from said embryos.
The dino-human hybrid thing is more of a horror movie thing but that concept art was badass. Is it bad to like the way John could have died via raptor? Now it makes me wish they'd filmed it just in case and given us alternate scenes/endings.
I kinda wonder what the movie would gave been like if it went towards a horror bent as opposed to staying in scifi... I think the idea is not so bad... An Island of Dr. Moreau but with dinosaurs...
pandajune1991 the original draft of Jurassic Park was too gruesome for Spielberg's taste. Though seeing that version would have been pretty awesome too.
Me either like abberation and extinction kinda hurt the game i think they could also add stuff like ouranosaurs metricanthosaur and a brachi along with so many other sauropods
It’s actually better the Ark is Sci-fi as to separate these ... aberrations ... sorry for the pun ... from the real earth equivalents, plus, it’s actually much more interesting, as much as it got in the way it was already headed that direction from the beginning with the obelisks and loot drops looking like magical space tech and the specimen implants, it was already sci-fi when it came out just cause of the specimen implants.
@@accountname9872 Ark WAS fun as hell. Unfortunately the developers sucked and among a thousand other problems began selling DLC before the game even came out of early access because the dumbasses had run out of money. It sure had potential.
Forget all the weird ideas, I just want them to recreate the scene from the novel where Robert Muldoon is wedged into a concrete tube, drunk on whiskey and blowing raptors apart with an anti-tank launcher.
i did notice that the scene where hammond falls down a hill and dies like a little bitch was in one of the scripts. except instead of being eaten by compys, he drown in a puddle
G.A.P. Metal Punk because jurassic park(movie) doesn't build for that route. It was a jaw dropping that makes kids & adult fall in love with dinosaurs . Going full retard wouldn't work. But it will work if it slap a new title & vibe such as overlord. Would be pretty cool
@@alnu8355 Well, don't forget - Nick Van Owen was one of the bad guys there. Likely, nobody would have died if it weren't for him. People dying was an entirely foreseeable consequence of his actions.
@@alnu8355 Him being killed by the dinos he released, preferably in a gory, painful way, would've made the movie significantly better. It might actually have become watchable at that point.
My favorite idea for JP4 was actually the idea of a sickness killing humans in millions. Turning out that the dinosaurs also had a mutated ancient virus, that mutated and start infecting humans. Laura Dern was in the talks for the leading role with her paleo-botanics and a team searching the ruins of Nublar and Sorna for indications/solutions to how to stop that virus. That would have been the real "planet of the apes" idea. Currently i have high hopes, that this will play some role in JW3
@@chandlerkinchen2297 Yeah: Starting an investigation, locusts are basically the result of what InGen started and they would have been the reason for an world wide collapse with billions of people starving and fighting. (I wish we would have seen some implications of THAT though)
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The greek names for the deinonychus pack is awesome though. I really like that idea, maybe we could get that for the pyroraptor in dominion because pyroraptor already has ties to greek mythology
facts you can tell this guy who made this vid is a tard for saying thats a bad idea yet the last 3 movies have been so cut and dry the same bs we need a shake up
I always say that JP3 would have been so much more interesting if they shifted the focus of the story onto Erik's survival and how he managed to live alone for 8 weeks. I get that it's more difficult to have a 3 act story and dialog in that scenario but given what we got, I wouldn't mind risking the chances.
also the T. Rex death would've been more realistic, the ingen spinos jaws in jp 3 are like sarcosuchus jaws, if the ingen spino has anywhere near neck muscles in jp 3, it would have crushed the T. Rex's neck into oblivion. Which is what happens in the OG jp3.
i feel like even with all of these iconic movies and games related to the jp franchise we still don't have enough content to satisfy us .. to let me say *this is enough*
Jeez people be thinking it's a crime to be a fan of 'Jurassic Park 3' Lol. Personally I think it was a brilliantly innovative addition to the franchise with a great variety of dinosaur appearances to boot. Suck it haters.
I remember seeing JP1 in 1993 in Pinconning, Mi. I fell in love with the movie I ran to Walmart and got the soundtrack, poster and whatever i could find. That night I fell asleep to the soundtrack and listen to it over and over. I went 2 more times to see the movie that month and have been a fan ever since. New SUB I really enjoy you exploring the JP lore and movie lore.
4:23 He didn't think anyone would want to watch a few annoying teenagers stranded on site b. Well Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous is basically that but on site a and it's pretty good if you ask me. Also, I think the kids there are fairly well written.
I think there's only one way to make a new JP film, that will actually be considered "good": It needs to take place parallel to the events of JP1 or very close to it's time. Showing the events through different eyes. What the Jurassic World movies are doing is somewhat understandable since it's more or less the logical consequence. But especially JW2 is missing that old JP-DNA.
I love JP3 for Stan Winston's amazing work on the animatronics. The world design was fantastic and the dinosaurs so unbelievably beautiful. The plot really is the weakest part of it and I can't stop wondering why they threw out a perfectly good script and went all spontaneous instead. I mean, it clearly wasn't a budget issue as they already had the actors, sets and animatronics ready. One thing I am really missing in the movies which I enjoyed in the books is the portrayal of BioSyn, Dodgson, his treatment of the scientific power that humans never should've tampered with, and his awesome death scene in the second book. I also thought Malcolm's "daughter" didn't fit in that well replacing Arby and the girl whose name I cannot remember right now. They were not even his children in the book. They got into real, actual danger being on the island. Otherwise, I love JP, I love all of the movies except, sorry, JW, which I simply cannot come to terms with plot-wise, and my animatronics fetishist heart of course was bummed to find out that the beautiful work of Legacy effects was cut from the final movie. And honestly I feel that JP did better CGI work in 1993 than JW in 2015.
As I know, Legacy Effects made only the light reference Raptor heads and the head of the Apatosaurus for Jurassic World. No snimatronics cut from the movie. I hate the Jurassic World trilogy for the stupid story's, the bad CGI (only the redesigned T-Rex in Dominion is good) and missing suspense.
imho, the "best" part of all the movies was the FX. None of them can hold a candle to the books. It's pretty much the same with all of Crichton's books/ movies
The one thing I remember from the book was the description of how nedry dies. The slash of the claw across the belly with his entrails hanging out. And then the dilophosaurus bit down on both sides of his head and lifted him into the air
Goes to show the importance of making multiple script passes at your story, giving time to refine your ideas and bounce them off other people. Otherwise, even if the final product isn't all around loved, those good ideas that were introduced in subsequent drafts would shine through.
@Somethingofa moviegeek Lost World is glorious, especially compared to the crap that was FK. Worst film in the franchise and one of the worst films of the year.
@Somethingofa moviegeek well personally for me it's one of those rare cases where the film improves the book. The Lost World novel isn't bad by any means but it was obvious as hell that Chrichton had never written a sequel to any of his books, he was really struggling to move the story forward, for me it also became a bit boring in the middle, the moment with Kelly and Sarah on the motorbike seemed too silly even in my imagination, Dogdson was really too silly to take a single rifle to an island with dinosaurs(!?), Levine was annoying as hell and the ending was way too quick. The movie on the other hand logically moves the dealings of INGEN forward, Ian has an emotional reason for going back to the island and the ending in San Diego is actually a nice and exciting nod to the original Lost World movie from 1928 (hence the title) as well as King Kong. But then again I've grown up with the older films and seeing something as bad as FK really pains me, this series deserves better.
Michael Chrichton was forced to write the sequel because everyone wanted a new story. It's thanks to him that the script from the first Jurassic movie was the only good one in the franchise.
@@5thejurassic I agree. Lost World the book takes too long to get going, has too much silly dated stuff on the wonders of 1990's computers and I wholeheartedly agree Dodgson didn't 'rate' well and Levine's anti-science rants, tangents and misperceptions of scientists was not only annoying but got me pissed off at him (and by extension Chrichton, who i otherwise admire.) The movie sensibly removed Levine. And the movie has a smoother story. I did like the book's long river dino encounters 'ride' tho.
Jurrassic park IV (The Steven Spielberg Idea) this is really the only version that I was ever made aware of and I was made aware of while the movie was still being considered and then learning eventually that it was cancelled I was rather crushed, it was a while ago and I don't remember much about it but one thing I do remember from my uncle who lives down in Milwaukee Wisconsin this script was supposed to also star Tommy Lee Jones and I learned about that and I was beyond super hyped for it. unfortunately it never came to be.
Crichton was such a genius. I wish they used more of the dialogue from his books in the movies. Much of the intellectual discussion in the first Jurassic Park was what made me fall in love with the series, and I started tuning out when I heard less and less of it. The theories and discoveries pointed out by the characters in those books in spoken word were what gave me a greater sense of dread than anything the dinosaurs actually did.
I think that Jurassic World: Ancient Futures would have been the best (although I’m glad they changed the name to Fallen Kingdom, because to me that sounds cooler).
I'm actually ok with how JP 3 turned out the bird cage scene was really awesome. Now those original ideas for JP 2 and 4 sound AMAZING especially Grant and Ian teaming up again. I dont really like how JP 4 and 5 turned out :(
Jurassic world 1 was a nice love letter to the original and it's nice to see what a fully operating park would have looked like. I just wasn't a fan of the new hybrids they kept making and the human clone thing
“The script is evolving and changing as we go, who launched a 100,000,000$ ship without a rudder, who was hired for this, SOMEONE NEEDS TO BE SHOT, *SCREEEEEEEEEE* ” Boy, that escalated quickly...
@Joshua Shank they wouldnt. He didnt mind the movies that were made off his books. He liked that more people had a new interest in prehistoric animals.
@@Mistermister1123 Even so, Crichton's original Jurassic Park was primarily about mankind playing God with genetics. The dinosaur aspect could be substituted with anything else that is clone-able while still fulfilling the main theme.
I love hearing about unmade movies of any franchise I am a fan of whether they are good or bad. I might be the only here to say this but I wouldn't mind seeing all of these unmade JP/JW movies to be made either as animated movies or as comic books similar to Dark Horse Comics doing a comic book based on one of the early scripts of Alien 3 (while I am not really into comics I am willing to take a look on ones based on my favourite franchises especially if they are unmade movies).
I remember the first time I read the name "Nick Van Owen", I literally thought it said, "Nick, Van Owner" like he was the guy whose van they would be using in the, as of then, unreleased Lost World movie lol
This needs to be a Netflix or HBO series with the Costa Rican govt trying to find out what is going on. Then use flashbacks to demonstrate actions by ingen.
My thoughts immediately went to the catastrophe that was the production of the Disney Star Wars trilogy. Especially the mess that was TRoS and its extentive rewrites and reshoots.
Wow that version of the Lost World sounded great. I kind of also wish we would have gotten a more book accurate Lost World movie, I really enjoyed the book as a kid and was excited they were making a movie around it. I was kind of sad that it turned out to be so different but I was still happy because Malcolm was such a large part of it anyway.
2:56 that story was partially used in Jurassic world they used the military and human command story. these stories are just like creating books, so many rewrites and evolutions before final releases its fascinating how these things are mad3
In The lost World, could someone, after all these years, explain to me how, on the Trex cargo ship with only the Trex, the entire crew was eaten with the Captains hand still at the wheel?
In the book it was raptors that got on the boat and wasted the crew. That was the original plan in the lost world but got scrapped and they didn't clean up the scene leaving us all confused unless you read the book with the reference.
I'm super late, but the thing is (and it was not explained well) the trex was not originally in the cargo hold. It was supposed to be in that shaped cage you see briefly on the deck, but there were issues with the tranquillizer. They gave him too much and he was dying so they panicked and administered adrenaline. The t-rex woke up and started killing everyone while the crew tried to trap it in the cargo hold, probably, and this bit is a guess, using the baby to lure him in. The last surviving crew member died holding the buttons for the doors. ....and then a friggin' cop pushed the button and let it out so that sacrifice was for nothing.
Sad Jurassic Park 3 couldn't follow though with the ideas of dinosaurs getting off the island sooner. I would have also loved to see the original script for Jurassic Park 1 filmed
While I enjoy the Lost world and JP3 that we got I would’ve loved to have seen the OG scripts come to life. As well as the JP4 script that Spielberg liked.
I would love to actually have these movies made as like a proposed alternate universe, a “what if” movie. I would also love novelized versions of these
It looked like the spinosaurus was still there for the plane crash scene but it would not be the movie's main antagonist like it was in the final version.
Considering that the final script took only five weeks to finish, the animatronic for the Spinosaurus was mostly likely built by then. Of course they wouldn't throw away such huge and expensive thing that probably took at least a year to build. Besides, Clayton didn't mention that there was *NO* Spinosaurus in the OG script.
Eh, while I do love the book, and would love to see a remake with certain elements of the book reincorporated, there are parts of the movie that are so much better
That's what I want them to do. Remake Jurassic Park and The Lost World, but make the rated R, stay more loyal to Crichton's plots, and update the dinosaurs to make them as scientifically accurate as possible, feathers and all. That's what I want to see. I know of course that there will never be an R rated JP movie because it's so marketable to children. But I'd like to see it, nevertheless.
Agreed, I still love the novel and was surprised at the total difference between them (mistakenly did it in reverse, movie than book). While the movie was great (Saw it 6 times in the theater), the novel version make more chronological sense and gives more background on the characters.
Honestly, I would’ve really liked to have seen that whole section in JW2 where they actually mention Sorna and have Malcom play a bigger role. Also, even if I do love what we got in The Lost World, having Roland come out with his gun and be the big hero at the end would’ve been pretty sweet to see.
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My absolute favorite franchise since I was a kid. I wanted to share that with my son. He's 8....but his mom sat him down and watched them all with him....another dream gone
jp3 was a good movie, i liked it.. but the script with all the mystery wouldve been 10x better also i wouldve much preferred to see a script closer to the original novel for jp1
10 sorta reminds me of dino crisis, a dino based horror made by the same makers of Resident Evil. doesn't have hyrbid dinos, but it damn well couldve done it.
One thing I do really like about the early script for JP3 and the earlier version of the final script was the much longer Spinosaurus vs. T.rex fight. It's much more back and forth and I feel would have easily rivaled the spectacle we got in JW's finale. The T.rex gets some more good hits in, the Spinosaurus has interesting moves like a tail bash and actually using its claws, has a very King Kong 1933 vibe.
10:55 I personally loved the alternative version of first Jurassic park in which the only change was the death of Hammond by his own creation and his death was praised by his own voice “WELCOME TO JURASSIC PARK”. 15:20 I would have also loved to see the alternative version of the jp3
The original shooting script for JPIII is, hands down, the best. If you've ever read the original novel, the first chapter opens up on a stormy night where a doctor treats a JP worker who was evacuated off the island because of a raptor attack. The doctor doesn't know what's happening on the island, but she comments that she was seeing similar bites and attacks on small children in her part of Costa Rica. The original script for JPIII always reminded me of this first chapter in spirit. It's the kind of movie I truly hope will be made - and with Spielberg or J. J. Abrams at the helm.
Crichton's original JP script, the OG Lost World Script, and Spielberg's Idea for JP4 are all movies I would have liked to see.
The latest Jurassic movie
ya same
1k agree.
@Testbed Elite what was it about is there anywhere you can read it ?
Tbh id love to see them all even if they are ass xD
Anyone disappointed that "The Planet of the Apes" draft was named so because of who wrote the screenplay and not because it chronicled a world takeover by super intelligent dinosaurs?
The dino humanoids take over after being used in human wars and get sick of their shit
@@DareMurdok No the dinosaurs take of the world and put the HUMANS in the park on an island and all goes well until one night there's a bad storm and the humans get loose...
@@greghannibal yeah and they start eating the dinosaurs
Insert Mario Bros theme song
Pink Lightning Gacha and Gaming then they repopulate 😏
Have they considered making a raptor-Sherlock Holmes type mystery where a raptor solves mysteries but in the end discovers that the real treasure was the friends he made along the way?
Sounds like a cool idea
That's alchemist
That is so cute, I would watch this :D
well Mr. Hollins why dont you write the detective raptor novel yourself and he is the dinosaur partner to a detective caveman?
thats jurassic world 4
When I heard "Jurassic Park IV" before Jurassic World was even announced, I always pictured a movie with Ellie as the main character. Since Malcolm had Lost World and Grant had JP3, Ellie Sattler would be the protagonist of Jurassic Park IV.
That’s pretty cool
Alright next movie Ellie is the protagonist of it she needs her own movie like malcom and Alan I feel like she deserves it.
@@SwivelAxl too bad ellie got old and was recast with a new name claire. just think about it like that
Her character was never really as interesting as Malcolm or Grant imo. Not the actress' fault but the character was just.... mediocre in my eyes. I even found the kids to be more interesting in JP. I doubt she could hold an entire movie on her as the main character. Grant-ed (lol) they could flush her out more in a theoretical film like you mentioned but I would rather see a sequel with hunter like Roland (maybe even the actual Roland character played by a new actor) going to the original island.
@@lanncraster5372 lol what she didnt get recasted
Jurassic world is the same universe as Jurassic park
Imagine, you wake up, and you see choppers that say, “Ankylosaurus Air Support”.
You then see about 5 ankylosaurs jump out with parachutes, and you run inside, as well as close the door.
*AAS OPEN UP* you hear one scream, and you run to other side of the house.
*THEY’RE NOT OPENING THE DOOR! GERALD, FIRE!*
You then hear the door fly across the hall.
The ankylosaurs then struggle to get inside because the AAS gave them more armor then they already had. There’s the plot to Jurassic World: Dino’s In The Military
Why did you wake up outside
Weird and I love to see ankylosauruses jumping out of the sky with parachutes.
The barbasol can was only able to keep the embryos viable for like 48 hours. It was actually stated at the meeting when nedry received it.
Now that's a man who does his research 👍❤️
there is already game made on that so they cant make a movie involving the can
When Dodson says "viable embryos", I got the impression that he wanted to grow the live embryos to study and harvest, hence the 36 hour window. However, wouldn't the DNA samples still be usuable to some degree if found?
@@BeazleyStudios it could be a possibility. But I would assume after the embryos died they might decay, or the dna might not be complete, or some weird stuff. Or they could be perfectly usable to scrape some dna from if they’ve already paid this much money for it and just won’t be able to grow them from said embryos.
@@BeazleyStudios it could be a possibility. But I would assume after the embryos died they might decay, or the dna might not be complete, or some weird stuff. Or they could be perfectly usable to scrape some dna from if they’ve already paid this much money for it and just won’t be able to grow them from said embryos.
The dino-human hybrid thing is more of a horror movie thing but that concept art was badass. Is it bad to like the way John could have died via raptor? Now it makes me wish they'd filmed it just in case and given us alternate scenes/endings.
I kinda wonder what the movie would gave been like if it went towards a horror bent as opposed to staying in scifi... I think the idea is not so bad... An Island of Dr. Moreau but with dinosaurs...
pandajune1991 the original draft of Jurassic Park was too gruesome for Spielberg's taste. Though seeing that version would have been pretty awesome too.
Compys got him in the book
Reminds me of the ending of Shin Godzilla
I know, i would love a film like that but i wouldnt want it to be JP
Well, this'll be fun.
*sees human dino hybrid concept*
I think I just died...
Ripper The Indoraptor I really agree with you, Ripper, LOL.
I knew it 1.5 years agp
Ripper The Indoraptor i think i just diiiiieeeeed! I think i just died, i went to heaven from avichii
I think I'd go along with any version except for that one. Because the JP franchise is not to be made into a zombie movie.
My cat pooped on my remains I’m alive again 😑😑😑😑
Muldoon : Shoot her
Raptor : screech
Muldoon : SHOOT HER
(Fades out to a lawyer trying to surf)
Am I seriously the only person that doesn't despise jp3 is movie?
Yes.
I am with you!
I don't hate it like a lot of people do but I feel like it went in the wrong direction. At least they brought my boy Dr. Grant back. 👍👍👍
Its my favorite in the franchise.
Come on, stop trying to make yourself look special.
There's a ton of die-hard JP3 fans out there.
I'm not one of them though.
All these concepts probably led to the making of Ark Survival Evolved
Me either like abberation and extinction kinda hurt the game i think they could also add stuff like ouranosaurs metricanthosaur and a brachi along with so many other sauropods
It’s actually better the Ark is Sci-fi as to separate these ... aberrations ... sorry for the pun ... from the real earth equivalents, plus, it’s actually much more interesting, as much as it got in the way it was already headed that direction from the beginning with the obelisks and loot drops looking like magical space tech and the specimen implants, it was already sci-fi when it came out just cause of the specimen implants.
I luv ark
@Black Man nah ark is fun as hell
@@accountname9872 Ark WAS fun as hell. Unfortunately the developers sucked and among a thousand other problems began selling DLC before the game even came out of early access because the dumbasses had run out of money. It sure had potential.
Forget all the weird ideas, I just want them to recreate the scene from the novel where Robert Muldoon is wedged into a concrete tube, drunk on whiskey and blowing raptors apart with an anti-tank launcher.
Y E S
i did notice that the scene where hammond falls down a hill and dies like a little bitch was in one of the scripts. except instead of being eaten by compys, he drown in a puddle
That scene of him being mauled by the raptors while the Jurassic Park video was playing sounded really cool
Im pretty sure you cant shoot an AT launcher in a confined space. Thats a very easy way to die.
@@kazak8926 yeah films aren’t real
Dinohumans would have done to Jurassic Park, what driving off submarines in the arctic did to the Fast & the Furious.
Or what happened with alien resurection
Fuck it I would've watched it
FAZE ARNOLD alien resurrection was great. Put over the human hybrid alien. It is a well craft action story. So Shut ur filthy mouth.
G.A.P. Metal Punk because jurassic park(movie) doesn't build for that route. It was a jaw dropping that makes kids & adult fall in love with dinosaurs . Going full retard wouldn't work. But it will work if it slap a new title & vibe such as overlord. Would be pretty cool
Honestly i wouldnt be surprised if it still gets done if a few years when they run out of ideas in some way or form
God the original Lost World script would have been glorious
we need more roland, he was awesome, its a shame Pete Postlethwaite passed away, he did an awesome job portraying him.
Roland is the best thing from that film. I found the eco preaching bullshit to be insufferable.
@@alnu8355 Well, don't forget - Nick Van Owen was one of the bad guys there.
Likely, nobody would have died if it weren't for him. People dying was an entirely foreseeable consequence of his actions.
@@stevenschnepp576 Exactly, that a-hole should have died.
@@alnu8355 Him being killed by the dinos he released, preferably in a gory, painful way, would've made the movie significantly better. It might actually have become watchable at that point.
The Malusaurus looks awesome and you can really see how it’s design influenced those of the I Rex and Indoraptor.
The fact Diabolus rex was the name before they got Indominus Rex
My favorite idea for JP4 was actually the idea of a sickness killing humans in millions. Turning out that the dinosaurs also had a mutated ancient virus, that mutated and start infecting humans. Laura Dern was in the talks for the leading role with her paleo-botanics and a team searching the ruins of Nublar and Sorna for indications/solutions to how to stop that virus.
That would have been the real "planet of the apes" idea.
Currently i have high hopes, that this will play some role in JW3
Sad to tell ya, you were wrong.
@@somecartoonweeb3947 Yeah. Damn. AT least Dr. Sattler started the thing with her investigation about a global catastrophe.... so there is that haha
@@SultanSamet right? I mean switch the virus with locust out break and you weren't far off
@@chandlerkinchen2297 Yeah: Starting an investigation, locusts are basically the result of what InGen started and they would have been the reason for an world wide collapse with billions of people starving and fighting. (I wish we would have seen some implications of THAT though)
I like the idea. If it had been done 15 years ago. But what about an ancient insect comes back to life and wrecks havoc ??
An ankylosaurus with a parachute?!😂
Sieb K Probably only lighter dinos would make sense like raptors, dilos, and compies.
They used that idea for Ark survival
ngl i would pay money to see that done properly
How does that make sense? How did the parachute not rip open?!
breathes in...............ENEMY AC1 ANKYLOSAURUS ABOVE
They seem to have really loved the idea of the dinosaurs going after drug lords.
i mean it is a pretty awesome concept i kinda wish we got to see it even as just a short segment in one of these movies
It’s so stupid tho 😂 y drug lords instead of terrorists and big pharma?
Probably to have better kill scenes. Ppl like seeing bad guys getting torn apart. Like in Lost World. More death scenes.
I'm so glad the Dino human thing never existed
Personally I would have loved to have seen that as a concept just not with a Jurassic Park label on it
Aaron Allen it would look dope
Tell me about it! That would have been terrible!
“You won’t be so lucky next time”-I forgot who said this but it seemed fitting
It made me think of Turok. Anyone remember those games?
I'm glad the dinohumans never happened
That be creepy
And stupid.
and would have ruined everything about Jurassic Park.
alien 173 I’m going to laugh it jw3 picks it up
Thats going to be Jurassic World 4 lol
That college student draft has become Camp Cretaceous
3:20 *head explodes*
...
SOMEONE NEEDS TO MAKE THIS A FAN FILM NOW!
Love the uses of the old JP Dino Battles video game soundtracks. :)
That would be horrible
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they did end up using the college student draft of 3 for camp cretaceous.
Why are all of the replies not related to the comment
The greek names for the deinonychus pack is awesome though. I really like that idea, maybe we could get that for the pyroraptor in dominion because pyroraptor already has ties to greek mythology
Exactly.
facts you can tell this guy who made this vid is a tard for saying thats a bad idea yet the last 3 movies have been so cut and dry the same bs we need a shake up
I always say that JP3 would have been so much more interesting if they shifted the focus of the story onto Erik's survival and how he managed to live alone for 8 weeks. I get that it's more difficult to have a 3 act story and dialog in that scenario but given what we got, I wouldn't mind risking the chances.
also the T. Rex death would've been more realistic, the ingen spinos jaws in jp 3 are like sarcosuchus jaws, if the ingen spino has anywhere near neck muscles in jp 3, it would have crushed the T. Rex's neck into oblivion. Which is what happens in the OG jp3.
That would have been very interesting.
go watch the movie apocalypto.
@@Notkryo ft
Agreed. Basically Cast Away but on a dino island
i feel like even with all of these iconic movies and games related to the jp franchise we still don't have enough content to satisfy us .. to let me say *this is enough*
mohamed zohir at least we don't have an oversaturation of shit movies like star wars
j lay
Well Star Wars only has like 2 below average films that I personally like for the lore (Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones)
There's never enough JP
alfa01spotivo all the the sequels are bad
FiddleWiddle wrong
Imagine the trilogy with the prions concept retained from The Lost World novel + Spielberg's idea for JP3. Imagine if Spielberg directed all three.
Jeez people be thinking it's a crime to be a fan of 'Jurassic Park 3' Lol.
Personally I think it was a brilliantly innovative addition to the franchise with a great variety of dinosaur appearances to boot.
Suck it haters.
I agree. It’s my favorite right after the second. People just focus too much on analysis instead of fun, which movies are for.
Yeah Jp3 was good except for the T-Rex vs spino fight
I love that movie too!
@@cvnbgb pretty much this, though i love the shade thats thrown at it in JW when the T-Rex smashes through a spino skeleton on its arrival at the end.
@@cvnbgb That's the best scene. Spino made so many fans cry while flexing on the corpse of a dead horse. Brilliant indeed.
Damn thats a shame. Can never get enough of JP!
So true
I know it’s my favourite movie series. I’ve watched them since I was a kid and I still love watching them over and over today.
Same !!!!!!
Even the shitty ones? Which is all of them but the original?
Gabriel Karapondo shut up
I remember seeing JP1 in 1993 in Pinconning, Mi. I fell in love with the movie I ran to Walmart and got the soundtrack, poster and whatever i could find. That night I fell asleep to the soundtrack and listen to it over and over. I went 2 more times to see the movie that month and have been a fan ever since. New SUB I really enjoy you exploring the JP lore and movie lore.
What were you like when JP the lost world, JP3, JW and JW fallen kingdom came out?
@@teresestockdale8507 Ohio and Mississippi
I don't hear enough people saying that
THE TRANSPARENT GLOBES WOULD GET DIRTY AFTER THE FIRST SPIN!
They copied South Park
Nelson Baietti power washing
the blue part touches the ground, the glass is never actually in contact with the ground
Dinohumans don’t mix well, like water and oil don’t mix likewise.
DINOSAUCERS!!
Daniel Berry lmao!!! Dinosaurs in space
@@danielberry698 i thought those were aliens?
That would fit the Dinocrisis franchise way better. On its own the idea was good for some horror movie.
You have the high ground of common sense
“Who would want to watch a bunch of teenagers stranded on Sorna?”
CC: hold my beer
You're not wrong
I wonder if they somewhat used that as inspiration.
How would Hammond know about the Barbasol Can?
Valid point.
Carter We Backup security cameras that withstood the electricity being turned off?
authorities would have defo done a full armed-to-the-teeth inspection of all of the island
I haven't seen the movie in a long time but in the novel, the cooling mechanism in the can only lasts 36 hours.
the CCTV the fatso with glasses was talking to, his "client" aboard the ship.
Prolly the one Hammond questioned what and why fatso did it.
Spielberg's version of JP 4 could be adapted to become an awesome spin-off.
Lmao, don't give Netflix any ideas. 😂
Prequel
@@omigawdd why not? That movie would have been way better than Fallen Kingdom at least.
RushOut or a future sequel.
4:23 He didn't think anyone would want to watch a few annoying teenagers stranded on site b.
Well Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous is basically that but on site a and it's pretty good if you ask me. Also, I think the kids there are fairly well written.
Scrolled just to find a comment like this lol too true
It would have been a small herd of teens in the actual movie...
Yea Camp Cretaceous is like, you can't tell what ages it was made for, but all ages can kinda tolerate it.
Me: *sees humanoid raptor*
Also me: aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh burn it with fire
Thats not a raptor human. Its BARAKA
@@Curlyheart i agree with both of you.
I think there's only one way to make a new JP film, that will actually be considered "good": It needs to take place parallel to the events of JP1 or very close to it's time. Showing the events through different eyes.
What the Jurassic World movies are doing is somewhat understandable since it's more or less the logical consequence. But especially JW2 is missing that old JP-DNA.
This is phenomenal
I doubt you'd make story long enough that is interesting for a movie.
However a TV miniseries on the other hand would be great.
Nice foreshadowing of camp cretaceous. The story that parallels jw1. If only they did it with jp1
I love JP3 for Stan Winston's amazing work on the animatronics. The world design was fantastic and the dinosaurs so unbelievably beautiful. The plot really is the weakest part of it and I can't stop wondering why they threw out a perfectly good script and went all spontaneous instead. I mean, it clearly wasn't a budget issue as they already had the actors, sets and animatronics ready.
One thing I am really missing in the movies which I enjoyed in the books is the portrayal of BioSyn, Dodgson, his treatment of the scientific power that humans never should've tampered with, and his awesome death scene in the second book. I also thought Malcolm's "daughter" didn't fit in that well replacing Arby and the girl whose name I cannot remember right now. They were not even his children in the book. They got into real, actual danger being on the island. Otherwise, I love JP, I love all of the movies except, sorry, JW, which I simply cannot come to terms with plot-wise, and my animatronics fetishist heart of course was bummed to find out that the beautiful work of Legacy effects was cut from the final movie. And honestly I feel that JP did better CGI work in 1993 than JW in 2015.
As I know, Legacy Effects made only the light reference Raptor heads and the head of the Apatosaurus for Jurassic World. No snimatronics cut from the movie. I hate the Jurassic World trilogy for the stupid story's, the bad CGI (only the redesigned T-Rex in Dominion is good) and missing suspense.
If you want the best version of Jurassic Park, then read the original book written by Michael Crichton.
I still own a heavily read paperback version of the first book.
imho, the "best" part of all the movies was the FX. None of them can hold a candle to the books. It's pretty much the same with all of Crichton's books/ movies
I read the books and they were even better than the movie and even more disturbing and terrifying
@@andreznoriega3266 just imagine JW3 opening with the small dinosaurs eating that baby alive.
The one thing I remember from the book was the description of how nedry dies.
The slash of the claw across the belly with his entrails hanging out. And then the dilophosaurus bit down on both sides of his head and lifted him into the air
Goes to show the importance of making multiple script passes at your story, giving time to refine your ideas and bounce them off other people. Otherwise, even if the final product isn't all around loved, those good ideas that were introduced in subsequent drafts would shine through.
@Somethingofa moviegeek Lost World is glorious, especially compared to the crap that was FK. Worst film in the franchise and one of the worst films of the year.
@Somethingofa moviegeek well personally for me it's one of those rare cases where the film improves the book. The Lost World novel isn't bad by any means but it was obvious as hell that Chrichton had never written a sequel to any of his books, he was really struggling to move the story forward, for me it also became a bit boring in the middle, the moment with Kelly and Sarah on the motorbike seemed too silly even in my imagination, Dogdson was really too silly to take a single rifle to an island with dinosaurs(!?), Levine was annoying as hell and the ending was way too quick.
The movie on the other hand logically moves the dealings of INGEN forward, Ian has an emotional reason for going back to the island and the ending in San Diego is actually a nice and exciting nod to the original Lost World movie from 1928 (hence the title) as well as King Kong.
But then again I've grown up with the older films and seeing something as bad as FK really pains me, this series deserves better.
Michael Chrichton was forced to write the sequel because everyone wanted a new story. It's thanks to him that the script from the first Jurassic movie was the only good one in the franchise.
@@PrincessDesert The script for Lost World was good too and the script for JW was decent if not perfect. But FK was just terrible and ridiculous.
@@5thejurassic I agree. Lost World the book takes too long to get going, has too much silly dated stuff on the wonders of 1990's computers and I wholeheartedly agree Dodgson didn't 'rate' well and Levine's anti-science rants, tangents and misperceptions of scientists was not only annoying but got me pissed off at him (and by extension Chrichton, who i otherwise admire.) The movie sensibly removed Levine. And the movie has a smoother story. I did like the book's long river dino encounters 'ride' tho.
i NEED Michael Crichtons screen play for the first one to be a movie.
Jurrassic park IV (The Steven Spielberg Idea) this is really the only version that I was ever made aware of and I was made aware of while the movie was still being considered and then learning eventually that it was cancelled I was rather crushed, it was a while ago and I don't remember much about it but one thing I do remember from my uncle who lives down in Milwaukee Wisconsin this script was supposed to also star Tommy Lee Jones and I learned about that and I was beyond super hyped for it. unfortunately it never came to be.
It sounded cool but I guess there'd've been too much dino NSFW in it so that's why it got cancelled. lmao
Crichton was such a genius. I wish they used more of the dialogue from his books in the movies.
Much of the intellectual discussion in the first Jurassic Park was what made me fall in love with the series, and I started tuning out when I heard less and less of it.
The theories and discoveries pointed out by the characters in those books in spoken word were what gave me a greater sense of dread than anything the dinosaurs actually did.
As a huge Crichton fan, I would have loved to have seen Crichton's original version of the first film. That would have been the best one for me.
same, the deaths would be awesome, and I’d love a rated-r JP.
I actually want to see dinos dropping out of planes to attack hostile forces.
Gary Abbott "Armored Anklyosaur" wins by default. It's basically unkillable 😂😂😂
That would be pretty cool, if done properly.
It would be a good idea for an off shoot tv series
@@blackshogun272 Indominus Rex: Hold my meat
We might get that in Jurassic World 3. Who knows
Honestly never get tired of watching your Jurassic Park videos keep them coming man.
Directors: "Nobody wants to see a bunch of teenagers stranded on an island"
Camp Cretaceous: "Hold my beer."
Blood is red
Dino’s are blue
I am glad that the
Dinohumans were
Never thing
Nice
@@TrickyPJM752 such shitty rhyme at the end bruh. It should be "Dinohumans were removed", because "removed" rhymes with "blue."
Nhat Vu I’m so glad u have know subs because u can’t handle a joke
@@cooper9812 really dude? did you just assume that I was serious and wasn't playing along with her?
@@cooper9812 Still a shitty joke
I think that Jurassic World: Ancient Futures would have been the best (although I’m glad they changed the name to Fallen Kingdom, because to me that sounds cooler).
Ancient Futures is not a perfect title but better than Fallen Kingdom which could be the title for a Transformers movie.
That movie sucked and King Kong was way better
Emiliano Dean
Yeah Skull Island was such a fun film
@Luke Dwyer STFU.
That jurassic park 3 scrip sounds incredible. Jp3 could've/should've been so much better than what we got.
I'm actually ok with how JP 3 turned out the bird cage scene was really awesome. Now those original ideas for JP 2 and 4 sound AMAZING especially Grant and Ian teaming up again. I dont really like how JP 4 and 5 turned out :(
since when was there Jp5 and 4?
Grain jurassic world and Jwfk
Everardo_G there Is no jp 4 or 5 . It became JW
Paul Williams yeah I don’t really like it when people call jw 1 & 2 , Jp 4 & 5
Jurassic world 1 was a nice love letter to the original and it's nice to see what a fully operating park would have looked like. I just wasn't a fan of the new hybrids they kept making and the human clone thing
“The script is evolving and changing as we go, who launched a 100,000,000$ ship without a rudder, who was hired for this, SOMEONE NEEDS TO BE SHOT, *SCREEEEEEEEEE* ”
Boy, that escalated quickly...
I think I would have loved either Spielberg's version (because the original JP is amazing), but also Crichton's version because his book is genius!
2:20 I love how the circle of the red 9 turned into the Velociraptor's eye.
I want a Jurassic Park movie like Crichtons novel
Crichton is on the credits as a screenwriter so if it gives you peace to know he approves of it he helped write it
@Joshua Shank they wouldnt. He didnt mind the movies that were made off his books. He liked that more people had a new interest in prehistoric animals.
Rated R hell yea
German Hot Toys they'd need to find someone unlikeable to play Hammond. Like, the guy who played ShitLoomis in the Rob Zombie "Halloween" fiascos.
@@Mistermister1123 Even so, Crichton's original Jurassic Park was primarily about mankind playing God with genetics. The dinosaur aspect could be substituted with anything else that is clone-able while still fulfilling the main theme.
Yknow considering the context of how much trouble JP3 had and the short notice of the script being thrown out it turned out surprisingly okay
I love hearing about unmade movies of any franchise I am a fan of whether they are good or bad. I might be the only here to say this but I wouldn't mind seeing all of these unmade JP/JW movies to be made either as animated movies or as comic books similar to Dark Horse Comics doing a comic book based on one of the early scripts of Alien 3 (while I am not really into comics I am willing to take a look on ones based on my favourite franchises especially if they are unmade movies).
Draig M You and I think alike. I’m also a fan of unmade movies. Especially in the Jurassic Park and Godzilla franchises.
Someday, I'd like to see a more faithful adaptation of the original novel.
I remember the first time I read the name "Nick Van Owen", I literally thought it said, "Nick, Van Owner" like he was the guy whose van they would be using in the, as of then, unreleased Lost World movie lol
Wait until you meet nick trailer Owen
As a fan of unproduced/alternate version screenplays, I found this video to be quite informative. Keep up the great work.
Well this will be interesting.
But some ideas are realy stupid, thanks God they never make it.
This needs to be a Netflix or HBO series with the Costa Rican govt trying to find out what is going on. Then use flashbacks to demonstrate actions by ingen.
4:18 thats pretty much the concept for Camp Cretaceous lol and that turned out great!
17:21
William H. Macy: "Who's getting fired for this? Someone needs to be shot!"
...Oh Kathleen~
My thoughts immediately went to the catastrophe that was the production of the Disney Star Wars trilogy. Especially the mess that was TRoS and its extentive rewrites and reshoots.
The Michael Criton Script. It would have changed everything!
Wow that version of the Lost World sounded great.
I kind of also wish we would have gotten a more book accurate Lost World movie, I really enjoyed the book as a kid and was excited they were making a movie around it. I was kind of sad that it turned out to be so different but I was still happy because Malcolm was such a large part of it anyway.
You did it again, mr. Fioriti. Another great vid. Still following, still amazed! :D
2:56 that story was partially used in Jurassic world they used the military and human command story.
these stories are just like creating books, so many rewrites and evolutions before final releases
its fascinating how these things are mad3
In The lost World, could someone, after all these years, explain to me how, on the Trex cargo ship with only the Trex, the entire crew was eaten with the Captains hand still at the wheel?
I have been wondering that for years🧐
In the book it was raptors that got on the boat and wasted the crew. That was the original plan in the lost world but got scrapped and they didn't clean up the scene leaving us all confused unless you read the book with the reference.
@@jamieloeks9100 That would have been an interesting thing to see in the film, wish they had done that.
I'm super late, but the thing is (and it was not explained well) the trex was not originally in the cargo hold. It was supposed to be in that shaped cage you see briefly on the deck, but there were issues with the tranquillizer. They gave him too much and he was dying so they panicked and administered adrenaline. The t-rex woke up and started killing everyone while the crew tried to trap it in the cargo hold, probably, and this bit is a guess, using the baby to lure him in. The last surviving crew member died holding the buttons for the doors. ....and then a friggin' cop pushed the button and let it out so that sacrifice was for nothing.
@@WillTuliv to be fair the dude in the suit ordered the cop to open the cargo hold.
The 2nd one wasn't that bad but once they brought they idea of dinos jumpin from planes with parachutes you lost me
Sounds like a Michael Bay movie lmao
Parachuting ankylosaurus?!🤣😂😂
@@keithparker865 sounds like the shit they did in attack on titan
Sad Jurassic Park 3 couldn't follow though with the ideas of dinosaurs getting off the island sooner. I would have also loved to see the original script for Jurassic Park 1 filmed
While I enjoy the Lost world and JP3 that we got I would’ve loved to have seen the OG scripts come to life. As well as the JP4 script that Spielberg liked.
I would love to actually have these movies made as like a proposed alternate universe, a “what if” movie. I would also love novelized versions of these
No.
So the original JP III had no Spinosaurus? Wow. I am glad he was in the final cut!
TheBoxingSimulator //RileyTBS same
It looked like the spinosaurus was still there for the plane crash scene but it would not be the movie's main antagonist like it was in the final version.
Considering that the final script took only five weeks to finish, the animatronic for the Spinosaurus was mostly likely built by then. Of course they wouldn't throw away such huge and expensive thing that probably took at least a year to build.
Besides, Clayton didn't mention that there was *NO* Spinosaurus in the OG script.
The idea of 5 greek raptors, 2 dilos & and anklyosaurus flying in on parachutes as a introduction to fight nearly sent me over the edge
A verbatim film adaptation of Crichton's first book would've been amazing. Still wish maybe one day we'll get it.
Eh, while I do love the book, and would love to see a remake with certain elements of the book reincorporated, there are parts of the movie that are so much better
FUSE BOTH OF THEM TO MAKE THE ULTIMATE JURASSIC PARK!
Maybe a Game?
That's what I want them to do. Remake Jurassic Park and The Lost World, but make the rated R, stay more loyal to Crichton's plots, and update the dinosaurs to make them as scientifically accurate as possible, feathers and all. That's what I want to see. I know of course that there will never be an R rated JP movie because it's so marketable to children. But I'd like to see it, nevertheless.
Agreed, I still love the novel and was surprised at the total difference between them (mistakenly did it in reverse, movie than book). While the movie was great (Saw it 6 times in the theater), the novel version make more chronological sense and gives more background on the characters.
Damn. Michael Crichton’s screenplay sounded pretty awesome!
This is defiantly your best video so far! It’s such an amazing experience learning about Jurassic park films that weren’t made.
Wow great video. Love the Lost World PS1 background music cues you use!
Honestly, I would’ve really liked to have seen that whole section in JW2 where they actually mention Sorna and have Malcom play a bigger role.
Also, even if I do love what we got in The Lost World, having Roland come out with his gun and be the big hero at the end would’ve been pretty sweet to see.
Ok, the scream when you read "SOMEONE NEEDS TO BE SHOT!" got me
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what a good ideas! I could use some of that stuff for my stories
Apex / Kong V Godzilla is filming near to me now. I can't wait to see it
Bryce McKenzie where?
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Windward Community College and the H3
I just finished doing some work on that. ;)
Tristan Noel sure you did
I've been going through all your videos. Now I have enough data for me to say, you are very well deserving of my subscription. Please keep it up, you're doing great work.
My absolute favorite franchise since I was a kid. I wanted to share that with my son. He's 8....but his mom sat him down and watched them all with him....another dream gone
Dang that sucks man
I like the ideah of a mystery type surrounded by dinasours instead of the chaotic running n screaming with no plot route they went with the new ones
Ikr
'nobody wants to watch a bunch of teenagers stranded on site b'
Camp cretaceus: *allow us to introduce ourselves*
Haha yes dude i agree
I wouldn't mind seeing some of these... Others are really junk
And what r those *some*
They're all really bad, except for the first one
Emiliano Dean you kidding me? The first one is terrible as well Who thought a human dinosaur hybrid was a good idea?
Black Man fr the first one is the most bad of them all
always find it weird that Vince Vaughn was in Jurassic park XD
Me to! He did a good job though, I like him in it.
I don't get bored watching dinosaur movies every two years, i hope after JW 3 we get more
jp3 was a good movie, i liked it.. but the script with all the mystery wouldve been 10x better
also i wouldve much preferred to see a script closer to the original novel for jp1
10 sorta reminds me of dino crisis, a dino based horror made by the same makers of Resident Evil.
doesn't have hyrbid dinos, but it damn well couldve done it.
played the hell out of that when i was young. nightmares for years
Ah, the old PS1 days
4:25 Camp Cretaceous: *laughs from a distance*
Damn i like the Ian on the boat part .__. Sounded Like would had been a really interesting movie
GOSH THE BACKGROUDN SONG MADE ME CHILL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love that this wasn't clickbait. thanks for the great video!
Those two deaths for John Hammond are particularly poetic.
However, "each film has its own fans"? Even the third one?
Finally: 5:18, 5:43.
yes, i love jp3
One thing I do really like about the early script for JP3 and the earlier version of the final script was the much longer Spinosaurus vs. T.rex fight. It's much more back and forth and I feel would have easily rivaled the spectacle we got in JW's finale. The T.rex gets some more good hits in, the Spinosaurus has interesting moves like a tail bash and actually using its claws, has a very King Kong 1933 vibe.
10:55 I personally loved the alternative version of first Jurassic park in which the only change was the death of Hammond by his own creation and his death was praised by his own voice “WELCOME TO JURASSIC PARK”.
15:20 I would have also loved to see the alternative version of the jp3
The original shooting script for JPIII is, hands down, the best. If you've ever read the original novel, the first chapter opens up on a stormy night where a doctor treats a JP worker who was evacuated off the island because of a raptor attack. The doctor doesn't know what's happening on the island, but she comments that she was seeing similar bites and attacks on small children in her part of Costa Rica.
The original script for JPIII always reminded me of this first chapter in spirit. It's the kind of movie I truly hope will be made - and with Spielberg or J. J. Abrams at the helm.