FYI, this video led to me purchasing your products (wrap, ties, tie tool) directly from your website to wrap aftermarket over axel pipes on a boxster. Really demystified the install, very helpful.
To estimate the amount of wrap : Amt of wrap = (L/W)*C , where L= length of pipe, W=width of wrap minus the overlap (eg. 2" - 0.25"), C= circumference of pipe
Should I be concerned that water will get behind the wrap and rust the pipe? Although, if the car is used frequently, any water that collects behind the wrap will probably be boiled away.
If the car is at operating temps, any water that makes contact with the wrap will likely evaporate immediately. If you pull the car or bike out to detail, and get the wrap wet, we recommend running the motor and getting it up to temp in order to avoid this issue.
What is the advantage of using both titanium wrap and the silicone coating? I am about to install titanium wraps on my motorcycle exhaust. Thanks in advance, guys...🙂🙂
Foreveryone reading this comment, do not coat the titanium wrap. It will cause it to degrade. I coated my header with silicone coating, wrap, then another silicone coating. A year and a half later the wrap was essentially powder, and just fell off the header. Now re-doing with only the wrap and nothing else
Has anyone used this for Cold Air Intake tube? I’m reading online it’s not good to use because it keep heat inside but I read other it’s good so idk. I want to use the best so it’s either this or gold tape wrap
Julian, The proper way to insulate the intake tubing would be to use a heat reflective material such as Reflect-a-Gold or Reflect-a-Cool. These will block radiant heat from soaking into the tube in turn keeping IAT's down. Exhaust wrap is meant to contain heat and is primarily intended for hot side piping.
So no silicone spray need to complete the instal?? can one use the silicone anyway? ... also... what if a guy was to use a ceramic paint prior installing the wrap.... would that cause any adverse affects?? ... thanks....
You do not need to use the silicone paint after the install. You can use it on Titanium but it is a different process for application. You would need to spray a coat on, run it through a heat cycle, add a second coat, go through a heat cycle then add a third. Because it is a different material than glass fiber, it soaks into it differently and needs a few coats and a few heat cycles for it to adhere properly. It will protect and prolong the life of the wrap and can be used. As far as having Ceramic paint on the header before wrapping, you can wrap over it. It will speed up the process of burning off the ceramic paint faster than it normally would, but it is OK to wrap over ceramic paint.
Thank you sir for the video ! Is there any benefit if we wrap the part from the exhaust manifold to the λ (Oxygen) sensor and beyond this point? or we must wrap only the exhaust manifold?
The video states to wrap from collect up to the engine side. Would it hurt to start at the head and wrap down to the collector as long as the sown edge faces the collector?
It's not going to "hurt" to wrap that way - take it from someone who did it that way before working at DEI. The point of wrapping it the way we prescribe is to prevent premature fraying. The "sewn" edge should ideally be the edge that's visible, whether you wrap toward or away from the header. Think of it as a more built-up, calloused edge, that can handle more wear and tear.
Good catch! Yeah, that's what happens when you record the narration separately from the demonstration. However you look at it, just pay attention to the outside edge when wrapping and you'll be covered on the inside!
Hi, i have two questions, 1) should i use a high temp silicone coating with this titanium wrap? 2) wich is better? fiberglass or titanium wrap, i have a Royal Enfield Himalayan Motorcycle
i just ordered the kit with 2 50ft rolls, I'm thinking I shouldn't have any issues wrapping a set of Hooker 2460's. They are only SBC shorty headers after all.
question: since wrapped and/or ceramic coated headers dissipate way less heat, and impressive results are often seen where the difference can be between 200f (treated) and 800f (untreated) does the heat tend to stay more in the block, or do the exhaust gases themselves simply get more hot inside?
If you continue to wrap after the combiner down thru flex pipe, would you switch directions to keep keep the sewn side facing combiner as you wrap in the direction of tail pipe?
A complete professional process there, very well structered without a doubt👌🏻👍🏻. I've installed titanium wrap on the collector section of my tuned Yamaha Zuma 70cc (Yamaha BW'S/Booster over here in Europe),it looks as nice as it does on any other bike,but is it reasonable to assume that it's making what is intended to do taking into account that it's only a scooter though being a tuned one?
you should see a benefit. plan to test here myself soon on a 70cc Dio based Honda elite build. will benchmark CHT readings before after, and note performance
@@yanb1981 Good to know, I hope it brings out a great outcome,let me know how it came out when you're done with it👍🏻.Are you somewhere in southeast Asia perhaps? Thailand 🇹🇭?
@@thedownhillerboy nah not at all, USA GA land of trucks n suvs 😆. for sure! heading to go pick up some of this titanium wrap now actually. will report back👍
@@yanb1981 Georgia,USA really? Love them Ram trucks 😏🛻🤩 and Escalades! I initially thought Thailand because Dios are hugely popular over there still,seeing a lot of videos on YT, you oughtacheck the BWSP channel,you will love their products for the Dio's👌🏻.I'm in PortugaL myself, both Dios and Zuma's are hardly seen these days over here though I've been noticing a slow but steady increase in used Zuma's riding around recently. Mine has always been a real neck twister since ever I should say 😎👍🏻🙋🏻♂️...
While we have noticed less complaints with the Titanium, we still recommend to wear protection when installing. Gloves, Protective Eyewear, etc. This helps avoid any chance of reaction.
Question: the video discussed "counting the loops" at 1:00... Q: Is the length of one loop the circumference of the pipe to be wrapped.? The transcript clarified my question. Excellent video by the manufacturer which includes a transcript of the video's audio. !
I have bought two 50 foot rolls of DEI exhaust wrap. How can I tell if it's Fiberglass or Titanium? There is no identification on the packaging to indicate the difference.
Yes sir there is identification on all of our packaging. The part numbers for our 2x50 Titanium wrap is 010127. If it is our Tan 2x50 fiberglass wrap, the part number is 010102. There is a very distinct difference between the two. The Titanium is a softer, more flexible wrap and is titanium in color. Our Titanium wrap has no fiberglass in it all. The fiberglass wrap is a much rougher surface and is a true tan in color.
Hi, i´m thinking about trying the Titanium wraps for first time on headers, but looking about opinions and experiences with it people talks about how this kind of wraps can damage headers because they keep moisture from condesation and it generates oxidation, is it true? Another question would be, how long does it last? do you need to renovate them? Thx in advance.
If it is used on a lesser quality header with a low quality steal it could. With our experience, water and moisture will not affect the header. The heat from the header dries the wrap so water will not sit in the wrap. And as long as you would follow the 1/4" overlap rule when installing, the right amount of heat will stay in the pipe and not overheat the metal. A lot of times if a header degrades, it is because the header is double wrapped, holds in too much heat and degrades the metal.
*Absolutely! DEI and other vendors have high temp silicone-based sprays on offer precisely for this purpose. Note however spray application process for titanium wrap is more extensive than for fibreglas and must be followed precisely. DEI has the detailed answer here in an older post. Cheers!*
I have used this product with success. I have wet it, though. Instead of the ties (which I have purchased at a local DYI home store), I have whipped the ends with a good quality wire. I have also used water-based glue (like Elmer's) to further secure the ends. It works! Don't use petroleum-based glue. I then spray the wrap with the correct heat paint. Enjoy. (Wear a long-sleeved shirt!)
With our Titanium wrap, wetting is not necessary. It is a different material than our fiberglass wraps. The fiberglass wraps are the ones you do need to wet before installation.
Probably a stupid question, the header I'm going to buy is made 100% of stainless steel. Will wrapping it with the titanium wrap be harmful or helpful on the steel? Just dont want any degradation of my header.... and does this also help with hp gains? Is it strong enough for long term usage?
Not a stupid question at all. It will not degrade the metal. We tested wraps with a 1/4" overlap when wrapping. This lets the right amount of heat out of the metal to not affect it. We have seen people double wrap the pipes thinking that if one wrap is good, two is better. And this isn't the case. When you keep too much heat in the header by double wrapping, thats when problems occur. And it will help in power gains. Hard to say how many horsepower because there are so many variables. But it reduces the underhood temps so it cooler air is available to the intake and the engine. It also decreases the density of the exhaust gasses so it lets the whole system become more efficient.
*According to Roy of TalkingMods and ModBargains, as explained here on YT* ua-cam.com/video/bg2tMO0eD-E/v-deo.html *In exhaust applications, operational, running temperature limit for SS304 tube is 860C/1580F with near lifetime endurance under stated conditions. As always, YMMV. Cheers!*
Not mentioned is the fact that if the overlap develops a gap and the tube is exposed, it is very possible that the exhaust will burn a hole through the steel. A friend had a Camaro running a 302 with manual trans and that happened to him. Plus, try to get all the way to the flange. Why risk it? Jere Stahl of York, PA (Stahl Total Tuned Headers), used to badmouth wrapping any header saying he had more repairs from wrap damage than for any other reason. ACP headers in Harrisburg is now making them exactly as the originals with the same methods and materials. Stahl headers were never cheap and it is a shame we lost him a few years ago. His wife had the website removed with all his instructions. My friend with the Camaro says that properly wrapped, the do work and horsepower is increased enough to make it worth the expense.
I was told to wrap thick aluminum foil around the pipe before the titanium exhaust wrap, ButI was thinking thatthis could cause corrosion on the pipe. what do you think aboutthis method? Thanks
I would not recommend doing that. I have never seen it done but it does not sound like a good idea. It will have no benefit to the wrap at all. If you are thinking if the wrap gets wet will it rust the pipe? And the answer will be no. The heat that is in the header will dry the wrap. I would not recommend doing it.
+TheCONtwo The best practice is after you wash your bike, just run it for a little bit, that heats up the wrap and dries everything completely. That gets rid of any moisture on the pipes or in the wrap.
Hi im going to wrap my kooks headers (09 Mustang). Would 1 50' roll be enough? Im also considering wrapping my off road H pipe. Would an additional roll be required? Lastly, how much of a heat reduction under the hood can i expect?
+Gavin F We usually recommend a 2" x 50ft roll per V8 header. If it is a shorty header it will take a little less than that. But you will need more than 1 - 2" x 50ft to do both headers. As far as the temp heat reduction, it kind of depends on the motor and other mods you have done to the car but we usually see about a 45-50% decrease in heat under the hood from the headers.
We usually see about a 50% temperature drop in under hood radiant temps. And it would be close for one 2"x50' roll to do both headers. It would honestly be a little more than that. Probably another 2"x15' roll you would also need.
i was wondering what is the difference on the wraps of titanium and fiberglass. I know that with fiberglass you have to use gloves for protection and i was wondering if you have to use gloves on the titanium wraps also. I just use gloves all time working on my car. but was just wondering on the different wraps if you have to use gloves on the titanium wraps for protection?
+Mark Raiden Mr. Raiden, we would recommend it. It is not a fiberglass material but fibers from it will come off and if your skin is sensitive to it, it potentially could irritate a little bit. So we would recommend it.
can this wrap cause damage to bear skin over repeated contact? I'm considering using this product for an AR build which will only reach a temp of 120 degrees F
Unfortunately that is something we cannot answer as we have never tested our material with that application / product. It can definitely handle that temperature.
It will still be pretty hot but it cuts the heat down by about 50%. Without the wrap you will burn skin instantly. With the wrap on, you can bump against it without getting that instant skin burn. If you have to work on your vehicle when it's still hot, it makes it much safer.
Yeah those ties are garbage. What a waste of $20. Just use worm gear clamps. So much easier. Look much better than the chicken wire that snaps when tightening with the tool.
Why the heck would you want to trap more heat in your air intake pipe???? Not a smart move!! By this reducing the heat on the outside, it creates more heat and pressure inside.... When is the last time you seen heat going into an engine make more power???? Smh.
i was wondering how much i would need for a set of v6 long tube headers. also does wrapping the header lengthen the life of the header if its only painted?
Most traditional wraps are made from glass fiber, which is clear/white naturally. The black wraps are made with a coating that wears off over time, especially if it sees a lot of direct exposure to rain and puddles. DEI has silicone spray available to preserve and/or renew the color on glass fiber-based wraps. Our Titanium wrap is not made from glass fiber, but instead stranded basalt fiber. The bronze color you see is the natural color and won't fade away.
You should see our other videos. We're big on protection! Seriously though, we always recommend standard PPE when doing any work. The step where you have to trim off excess fibers could result in short fibers that could get into your eyes, especially if you're under a vehicle, installing wrap on a pipe that's already installed.
+Gabriel Grieger this isn't the best product for that application. This actually insulates heat to keep it inside the exhaust pipes or headers. you would want to use somthing like our Reflect-A-GOLD or Reflect-a-Cool products. those go on the outside of the intake pipes and refelct heat away from them so you don't get heat soaking into the intake air charge. Check it out here... www.designengineering.com//category/catalog/design-engineering-inc/heat-sound-barrier/reflect-gold
When you see the same named product for a lower price, it has all to do with the materials used in the wrap and the heat capabilities. Many wraps will call themselves Titanium or Lava wrap but do not have the thermal capabilities and are not constructed from high temp basalt materials like DEI wraps or glass fiber with a propriatary coating. And many of the cheap price wraps come from out of the United States and they are basically cheap material knockoffs. DEI was the first to come out with the Titanium name product line back in 2006/2007. We used the name Titanium to signify the strength and color of the product and what it is capable of doing because of the high quality materials. All of our wraps are made here is the USA and we focus on performance standards above all.
You can put tape on the area you are about to cut and cut through the tape and wrap together. Or after you cut it, trim off any long loose fibers and Fold the corner in to give you a solid edge to start with. You can see this in the video at about 1:20 into this video. This will prevent any fraying or unraveling when you are wrapping.
what width and length should I get for my S2000 skunk 2 alpha header? Will this hurt my stainless header? corrosion? do you recommend a high temperature paint over the wrap?
Not a dumb question at all. It will help in power gains. Hard to say how many horsepower because there are so many variables. But it reduces the underhood temps so cooler air is available to the intake and the engine. It also decreases the density of the exhaust gasses so it lets the whole system become more efficient.
can also help protect other components around your manifold/header. for those people that dont have a heat shield. thats the reason im planning on doing this
We tell you to wear gloves because we always recommend the use of personal protective equipment when doing any work, regardless of the level of risk involved. That said, installing Titanium wrap is no more risky than changing your oil or filling your tires with air. The basalt fibers Titanium is made from does not splinter like the fiberglass in traditional heat wraps, so it's not going to leave you itching like fiberglass.
I've had this exact wrap on my bike for over three years now and I'm replacing it now. Mine got dirty and doesn't look as great as it did. I never had a problem with it coming off or getting loose and you shouldn't either of it's done properly. It's very tedious, and takes patience, so if you lack patience, just pay to have it done. lol If it is done right, it will never come off. Just wear gloves when you put this stuff on because I had like a thousand paper cuts on my hands from this shit. It burned like hell in the shower. Also, hose clamps worked a lot better than their outrageously expensive metal ties.
+Xeno Jupiter It doesn't really do anything for the sound. If you wrapped the entire exhaust, it might quiet it down a bit as an added bonus but it will not be a noticeable difference.
No it will not melt. It is rated to 1800F direct heat and 2500F intermittent heat. In the unlikely event it would ever get that hot, it would not melt. It would get brittle.
*Yes! When made of craptastic mild steel of unknown origin. Good materials do not. Your handle is MadeInUSA and that is always a good position to start from. Perhaps you will begin your Strength of Materials course from Ron of TalkingMods, BSME Stanford and ~18 years owner of ModBargains in La Habra, CA. 20 minutes of your time well-spent.* ua-cam.com/video/bg2tMO0eD-E/v-deo.html *Keep in mind the century-old adage: "Speed costs money, how fast do you want to go?" and "Used oats are much cheaper than new oats". Cheers!*
Easily the best wrap instillation tutorial on UA-cam
FYI, this video led to me purchasing your products (wrap, ties, tie tool) directly from your website to wrap aftermarket over axel pipes on a boxster. Really demystified the install, very helpful.
Thanks for the support Chris!!! Glad that our video was able to help with the install as well!
thank-you u can drink a few beers or any drinks on me anytime u are on Broadway San Francisco impala club ask for John 👏👏🍻🍻
Definitely need gloves... My hands are very itchy now... Wrap worked great though.
Amazing information really appreciated guys good work
If wrapping with an inch overlap, can we expect to further reduce radiant heat?
To estimate the amount of wrap : Amt of wrap = (L/W)*C , where L= length of pipe, W=width of wrap minus the overlap (eg. 2" - 0.25"), C= circumference of pipe
or you could use our Wrap Calculator on our site! Here is a direct link - www.designengineering.com/calculator/
Should I be concerned that water will get behind the wrap and rust the pipe? Although, if the car is used frequently, any water that collects behind the wrap will probably be boiled away.
If the car is at operating temps, any water that makes contact with the wrap will likely evaporate immediately. If you pull the car or bike out to detail, and get the wrap wet, we recommend running the motor and getting it up to temp in order to avoid this issue.
does a High temp silicone coating need to be used with the titanium wrap?
I would use both although not sure if I would wrap then spray or spray then wrap.
What is the advantage of using both titanium wrap and the silicone coating? I am about to install titanium wraps on my motorcycle exhaust. Thanks in advance, guys...🙂🙂
Daniel Caldwell you can spray first to pipe if wrap is slipping, and then apply afterwards.
Foreveryone reading this comment, do not coat the titanium wrap. It will cause it to degrade. I coated my header with silicone coating, wrap, then another silicone coating. A year and a half later the wrap was essentially powder, and just fell off the header. Now re-doing with only the wrap and nothing else
Eithan Maler have you had similar issues with the non-sprayed wrap now that it has been a year?
Has anyone used this for Cold Air Intake tube? I’m reading online it’s not good to use because it keep heat inside but I read other it’s good so idk. I want to use the best so it’s either this or gold tape wrap
Julian,
The proper way to insulate the intake tubing would be to use a heat reflective material such as Reflect-a-Gold or Reflect-a-Cool. These will block radiant heat from soaking into the tube in turn keeping IAT's down. Exhaust wrap is meant to contain heat and is primarily intended for hot side piping.
So no silicone spray need to complete the instal?? can one use the silicone anyway? ... also... what if a guy was to use a ceramic paint prior installing the wrap.... would that cause any adverse affects?? ... thanks....
You do not need to use the silicone paint after the install. You can use
it on Titanium but it is a different process for application. You would
need to spray a coat on, run it through a heat cycle, add a second
coat, go through a heat cycle then add a third. Because it is a
different material than glass fiber, it soaks into it differently and
needs a few coats and a few heat cycles for it to adhere properly. It
will protect and prolong the life of the wrap and can be used. As far
as having Ceramic paint on the header before wrapping, you can wrap over
it. It will speed up the process of burning off the ceramic paint
faster than it normally would, but it is OK to wrap over ceramic paint.
Dare I ask, is wrapping the exhaust manifold whilst ON the care possible/beneficial?
You can attempt it, but it will be much more difficult! There is no benefit to doing that.
Thank you sir for the video !
Is there any benefit if we wrap the part from the exhaust manifold to the λ (Oxygen) sensor and beyond this point? or we must wrap only the exhaust manifold?
The video states to wrap from collect up to the engine side. Would it hurt to start at the head and wrap down to the collector as long as the sown edge faces the collector?
It's not going to "hurt" to wrap that way - take it from someone who did it that way before working at DEI. The point of wrapping it the way we prescribe is to prevent premature fraying. The "sewn" edge should ideally be the edge that's visible, whether you wrap toward or away from the header. Think of it as a more built-up, calloused edge, that can handle more wear and tear.
My bike is going to be Bitchin with the tan wrap to match the gold frame !
I'm about to buy my first bike and plan on wrapping the pipes. This is the best tutorial/example of how to do a professional job that I've found.
1:45 confusion... you said more material to the outside (while the dude correctly show the inside) ;-)
Good catch! Yeah, that's what happens when you record the narration separately from the demonstration. However you look at it, just pay attention to the outside edge when wrapping and you'll be covered on the inside!
Hi, i have two questions,
1) should i use a high temp silicone coating with this titanium wrap?
2) wich is better? fiberglass or titanium wrap, i have a Royal Enfield Himalayan Motorcycle
Thanks for this upload, I'm looking forward to doing this on my motorcycle header pipes.
i just ordered the kit with 2 50ft rolls, I'm thinking I shouldn't have any issues wrapping a set of Hooker 2460's. They are only SBC shorty headers after all.
Should be the perfect amount for that set up! Thank you for the support!!!
When the hell was the flathead used?!
question: since wrapped and/or ceramic coated headers dissipate way less heat, and impressive results are often seen where the difference can be between 200f (treated) and 800f (untreated) does the heat tend to stay more in the block, or do the exhaust gases themselves simply get more hot inside?
The heat remains in the exhaust gasses and is not retained within the cylinder walls or piston head.
my theory is block cyl temp should maybe even run bit cooler due to the increased exhaust flow/scavenging. going to test soon
@@yanb1981 *You clearly understand the process. Sub'd and looking forward to your findings. Cheers!*
If you continue to wrap after the combiner down thru flex pipe, would you switch directions to keep keep the sewn side facing combiner as you wrap in the direction of tail pipe?
A complete professional process there, very well structered without a doubt👌🏻👍🏻. I've installed titanium wrap on the collector section of my tuned Yamaha Zuma 70cc (Yamaha BW'S/Booster over here in Europe),it looks as nice as it does on any other bike,but is it reasonable to assume that it's making what is intended to do taking into account that it's only a scooter though being a tuned one?
you should see a benefit. plan to test here myself soon on a 70cc Dio based Honda elite build. will benchmark CHT readings before after, and note performance
@@yanb1981 Good to know, I hope it brings out a great outcome,let me know how it came out when you're done with it👍🏻.Are you somewhere in southeast Asia perhaps? Thailand 🇹🇭?
@@thedownhillerboy nah not at all, USA GA land of trucks n suvs 😆. for sure! heading to go pick up some of this titanium wrap now actually. will report back👍
@@yanb1981 Georgia,USA really? Love them Ram trucks 😏🛻🤩 and Escalades! I initially thought Thailand because Dios are hugely popular over there still,seeing a lot of videos on YT, you oughtacheck the BWSP channel,you will love their products for the Dio's👌🏻.I'm in PortugaL myself, both Dios and Zuma's are hardly seen these days over here though I've been noticing a slow but steady increase in used Zuma's riding around recently. Mine has always been a real neck twister since ever I should say 😎👍🏻🙋🏻♂️...
How about reducing pipe-underframe rattling noise reducements? It make less sound when you warp that product?
It could help, but it's no guarantee. Best bet there is find what's shaking and secure it, move it, or take it out.
Does this itch like fiber glass wraps?
While we have noticed less complaints with the Titanium, we still recommend to wear protection when installing. Gloves, Protective Eyewear, etc. This helps avoid any chance of reaction.
Still looking for a wrap that doesn't stink when turbo engine is running.
Our wrap will only smoke and give off an odor for the first couple of heat cycles
Question: the video discussed "counting the loops" at 1:00... Q: Is the length of one loop the circumference of the pipe to be wrapped.? The transcript clarified my question. Excellent video by the manufacturer which includes a transcript of the video's audio. !
Correct, the loop is roughly the length of the pipe's circumference. Be sure to allow a little extra for the 1/4" overlap.
I have bought two 50 foot rolls of DEI exhaust wrap. How can I tell if it's Fiberglass or Titanium? There is no identification on the packaging to indicate the difference.
Yes sir there is identification on all of our packaging. The part numbers for our 2x50 Titanium wrap is 010127. If it is our Tan 2x50 fiberglass wrap, the part number is 010102. There is a very distinct difference between the two. The Titanium is a softer, more flexible wrap and is titanium in color. Our Titanium wrap has no fiberglass in it all. The fiberglass wrap is a much rougher surface and is a true tan in color.
WOW!! Thanks for the reply guys!! The part numbers are Part No. 010108 Black. So I'm guessing mine are fiberglass. Thanks for the info!!
Whats the purpose of wrapping hour exhaust header with titanium tape?
Hi does this stick on tight
when your exhaust pipe heats up. ?
Thank you for any reply
Best wishes to all
After a number of heat cycles, there will be a slight amount of shrinking, just enough to make it a bit tighter.
@@DesignEngineering Does the Titanium wrap displace heat better than the fiberglass wraps do?
Do you need to ceramic paint your headers & turbo manifolds then wrap them?
We don't recommend doing that. The wrap will keep heat in and eventually burn off the ceramic coating.
@@DesignEngineering Thank you for your time and info. I'm have redo all my heat wrap on my Hyundai Tiburon v6 turbo built
Hi, i´m thinking about trying the Titanium wraps for first time on headers, but looking about opinions and experiences with it people talks about how this kind of wraps can damage headers because they keep moisture from condesation and it generates oxidation, is it true?
Another question would be, how long does it last? do you need to renovate them?
Thx in advance.
If it is used on a lesser quality header with a low quality steal it could. With our experience, water and moisture will not affect the header. The heat from the header dries the wrap so water will not sit in the wrap. And as long as you would follow the 1/4" overlap rule when installing, the right amount of heat will stay in the pipe and not overheat the metal. A lot of times if a header degrades, it is because the header is double wrapped, holds in too much heat and degrades the metal.
Any spray necessary for this type of wrap?
*Absolutely! DEI and other vendors have high temp silicone-based sprays on offer precisely for this purpose. Note however spray application process for titanium wrap is more extensive than for fibreglas and must be followed precisely. DEI has the detailed answer here in an older post. Cheers!*
I have used this product with success. I have wet it, though. Instead of the ties (which I have purchased at a local DYI home store), I have whipped the ends with a good quality wire. I have also used water-based glue (like Elmer's) to further secure the ends. It works! Don't use petroleum-based glue. I then spray the wrap with the correct heat paint. Enjoy. (Wear a long-sleeved shirt!)
Someone suggested that I wet the wrap first before installing. Is that advice correct? Thank you.
Did you even watch the video? It explains this.
You dont wet titanium wraps
With our Titanium wrap, wetting is not necessary. It is a different material than our fiberglass wraps. The fiberglass wraps are the ones you do need to wet before installation.
Probably a stupid question, the header I'm going to buy is made 100% of stainless steel. Will wrapping it with the titanium wrap be harmful or helpful on the steel? Just dont want any degradation of my header.... and does this also help with hp gains? Is it strong enough for long term usage?
Not a stupid question at all. It will not degrade the metal. We tested wraps with a 1/4" overlap when wrapping. This lets the right amount of heat out of the metal to not affect it. We have seen people double wrap the pipes thinking that if one wrap is good, two is better. And this isn't the case. When you keep too much heat in the header by double wrapping, thats when problems occur. And it will help in power gains. Hard to say how many horsepower because there are so many variables. But it reduces the underhood temps so it cooler air is available to the intake and the engine. It also decreases the density of the exhaust gasses so it lets the whole system become more efficient.
+Design Engineering, Inc. Yes the 1/4" overlap is perfect! Thanks
*According to Roy of TalkingMods and ModBargains, as explained here on YT* ua-cam.com/video/bg2tMO0eD-E/v-deo.html
*In exhaust applications, operational, running temperature limit for SS304 tube is 860C/1580F with near lifetime endurance under stated conditions. As always, YMMV. Cheers!*
Not mentioned is the fact that if the overlap develops a gap and the tube is exposed, it is very possible that the exhaust will burn a hole through the steel. A friend had a Camaro running a 302 with manual trans and that happened to him. Plus, try to get all the way to the flange. Why risk it? Jere Stahl of York, PA (Stahl Total Tuned Headers), used to badmouth wrapping any header saying he had more repairs from wrap damage than for any other reason. ACP headers in Harrisburg is now making them exactly as the originals with the same methods and materials. Stahl headers were never cheap and it is a shame we lost him a few years ago. His wife had the website removed with all his instructions. My friend with the Camaro says that properly wrapped, the do work and horsepower is increased enough to make it worth the expense.
I was told to wrap thick aluminum foil around the pipe before the titanium exhaust wrap,
ButI was thinking thatthis could cause corrosion on the pipe. what do you think aboutthis method? Thanks
I would not recommend doing that. I have never seen it done but it does not sound like a good idea. It will have no benefit to the wrap at all. If you are thinking if the wrap gets wet will it rust the pipe? And the answer will be no. The heat that is in the header will dry the wrap. I would not recommend doing it.
siegfriedo brabender That method defeats the purpose. I would not try it.
Do i have to worry about rust on my pipes? I got some for my motorcycle even though i don't ride in rain i do wash it.
+TheCONtwo The best practice is after you wash your bike, just run it for a little bit, that heats up the wrap and dries everything completely. That gets rid of any moisture on the pipes or in the wrap.
AAH.... Olds-mo-bubble. You can wring the wrap by hand as you advance truns to ensure keeping a tight grip on the pipe.
Hi im going to wrap my kooks headers (09 Mustang). Would 1 50' roll be enough?
Im also considering wrapping my off road H pipe. Would an additional roll be required?
Lastly, how much of a heat reduction under the hood can i expect?
+Gavin F We usually recommend a 2" x 50ft roll per V8 header. If it is a shorty header it will take a little less than that. But you will need more than 1 - 2" x 50ft to do both headers. As far as the temp heat reduction, it kind of depends on the motor and other mods you have done to the car but we usually see about a 45-50% decrease in heat under the hood from the headers.
+Design Engineering, Inc. So one roll would work for my 4-cyl. 944. Does the wrap make a BIG difference in temperature under the hood?
We usually see about a 50% temperature drop in under hood radiant temps. And it would be close for one 2"x50' roll to do both headers. It would honestly be a little more than that. Probably another 2"x15' roll you would also need.
Thanks for the reply DEI ;-)
i was wondering what is the difference on the wraps of titanium and fiberglass. I know that with fiberglass you have to use gloves for protection and i was wondering if you have to use gloves on the titanium wraps also. I just use gloves all time working on my car. but was just wondering on the different wraps if you have to use gloves on the titanium wraps for protection?
+Mark Raiden Mr. Raiden, we would recommend it. It is not a fiberglass material but fibers from it will come off and if your skin is sensitive to it, it potentially could irritate a little bit. So we would recommend it.
ok thank you very much. i just wanted to take the precautions of fibers.
i installed mine with bare hands and trust me you want to use gloves
@@DesignEngineering This is an understatement. The fibers get EVERYWHERE
thanks for making this video. I was really unsure how to install this, really simplified it greatly. cheers!
Great video, many thanks
How long is your wrap? My exhaust is about same size as yours
Qwe have different lengths. To do a set of V8 headers, you would need 2 rolls of 2" x 50ft.
Was the installer able to wrap that entire header with a single 2" x 50' roll?
Brandon, yes. He was. We recommend a 2"x50' roll of wrap for a V8 header.
Can I do this to my Honda XR 250? And what brand and what measures of wrap do you recommend to do it?
gerardopeinado I would recommend the Titanium wrap and a 2inch wide by 15 foot roll will do the trick.
Nice
can this wrap cause damage to bear skin over repeated contact? I'm considering using this product for an AR build which will only reach a temp of 120 degrees F
Unfortunately that is something we cannot answer as we have never tested our material with that application / product. It can definitely handle that temperature.
when you wrap your exhaust. Will it get hot on the outside of the wrap (can you touch the wrap when you're driving?
It will still be pretty hot but it cuts the heat down by about 50%. Without the wrap you will burn skin instantly. With the wrap on, you can bump against it without getting that instant skin burn. If you have to work on your vehicle when it's still hot, it makes it much safer.
Thank you!
Ecxelente vid, don't know why 29 people did not like it ? F***** heater...
I just got me a wrap🥶
Yeah those ties are garbage. What a waste of $20. Just use worm gear clamps. So much easier. Look much better than the chicken wire that snaps when tightening with the tool.
would it be a good idea to put this on a metal air intake? it gets very hot under my hood
The Upscale im about to do that on my drag car
Why the heck would you want to trap more heat in your air intake pipe???? Not a smart move!! By this reducing the heat on the outside, it creates more heat and pressure inside.... When is the last time you seen heat going into an engine make more power???? Smh.
i was wondering how much i would need for a set of v6 long tube headers. also does wrapping the header lengthen the life of the header if its only painted?
I used this on my 07 yfz450 and the part of the exhaust that wasnt wrapped turned cherry red. Why is that?
Heat cycles? Any guidelines as for time / amount of heat cycles once installed before I use my bike on the road normally again
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I just bought some pacesetters for my Mazda b2000 which ones would you recommend.
Is it only for headers or can i wrap my downpipe with it as well?
So you don’t tie the beginning? Only the end?
Correct! There are plenty of people that still will secure the beginning of the wrap with a locking tie for peace of mind, but that is up to the user.
I have exhaust wrap on my Quad and after a couple of rides it is all White and not Black anymore. Why?
I dont remember the brand.
Most traditional wraps are made from glass fiber, which is clear/white naturally. The black wraps are made with a coating that wears off over time, especially if it sees a lot of direct exposure to rain and puddles. DEI has silicone spray available to preserve and/or renew the color on glass fiber-based wraps.
Our Titanium wrap is not made from glass fiber, but instead stranded basalt fiber. The bronze color you see is the natural color and won't fade away.
Design Engineering, Inc. Ok, so If i install this even though it Will see rain it Will keep this color?
@@ProMotoo The Titanium wrap would keep it's color, yes.
eye protection? why,are those fibers dangerous,something you're not telling us?
You should see our other videos. We're big on protection!
Seriously though, we always recommend standard PPE when doing any work. The step where you have to trim off excess fibers could result in short fibers that could get into your eyes, especially if you're under a vehicle, installing wrap on a pipe that's already installed.
Would this product work well to wrap my intake piping to keep heat out?
+Gabriel Grieger this isn't the best product for that application. This actually insulates heat to keep it inside the exhaust pipes or headers. you would want to use somthing like our Reflect-A-GOLD or Reflect-a-Cool products. those go on the outside of the intake pipes and refelct heat away from them so you don't get heat soaking into the intake air charge. Check it out here... www.designengineering.com//category/catalog/design-engineering-inc/heat-sound-barrier/reflect-gold
+Design Engineering, Inc. You can find it through Summit Racing or Jegs.
Oh wow. Learn something new every day. Thank you!
why would you wrap intake ? its not gonna make your air cooler even hotter
To try and keep heat from the engine from heating the intake pipe and air.
Very interesting video! How roll needed for two exhaust with 1 meters each?
If my exhaust runs 480 degress on my bike, how much of a reduction will I see in the surface temp with the wrap?
Some
what's the best brand of exhaust wraps? i see divergent prices form 15 to 70 dollars why?
When you see the same named product for a lower price, it has all to do with the materials used in the wrap and the heat capabilities. Many wraps will call themselves Titanium or Lava wrap but do not have the thermal capabilities and are not constructed from high temp basalt materials like DEI wraps or glass fiber with a propriatary coating. And many of the cheap price wraps come from out of the United States and they are basically cheap material knockoffs. DEI was the first to come out with the Titanium name product line back in 2006/2007. We used the name Titanium to signify the strength and color of the product and what it is capable of doing because of the high quality materials. All of our wraps are made here is the USA and we focus on performance standards above all.
I got some of your wrap but it unravels immediately after cutting--how do I prevent that?
You can put tape on the area you are about to cut and cut through the tape and wrap together. Or after you cut it, trim off any long loose fibers and Fold the corner in to give you a solid edge to start with. You can see this in the video at about 1:20 into this video. This will prevent any fraying or unraveling when you are wrapping.
Good idea for 07 6.0l exhaust manifold?
what width and length should I get for my S2000 skunk 2 alpha header? Will this hurt my stainless header? corrosion? do you recommend a high temperature paint over the wrap?
Hi. Had a fail on a tapered exhaust exit. Any tips on fitting and getting it to stay on odd shaped components that vary in size?
Nope. Good luck.
how long will the titanium wrap last?
does your wrap fry o2 sensors
Whats the point of wrapping? May sound like a dumb question but with or without stuff wrapped in my car i am not going to touch hot car parts. Lol
Not a dumb question at all. It will help in power gains.
Hard to say how many horsepower because there are so many variables. But
it reduces the underhood temps so cooler air is available to the
intake and the engine. It also decreases the density of the exhaust
gasses so it lets the whole system become more efficient.
can also help protect other components around your manifold/header. for those people that dont have a heat shield. thats the reason im planning on doing this
It will help those other components as well. An added bonus.
fukkk yeahhhh!!!!
nice!
Exhaust Wrap - always a bad idea...
ceramic coating >
how long wraps I need for camaro ss 2010 V8 ?
Ahmad, you will need two - 2"x5ft rolls of wrap to do a set of V8 headers.
2x50ft*
why do you need gloves?
We tell you to wear gloves because we always recommend the use of personal protective equipment when doing any work, regardless of the level of risk involved. That said, installing Titanium wrap is no more risky than changing your oil or filling your tires with air. The basalt fibers Titanium is made from does not splinter like the fiberglass in traditional heat wraps, so it's not going to leave you itching like fiberglass.
How long can I expect the wrap to last?
I've had this exact wrap on my bike for over three years now and I'm replacing it now. Mine got dirty and doesn't look as great as it did. I never had a problem with it coming off or getting loose and you shouldn't either of it's done properly. It's very tedious, and takes patience, so if you lack patience, just pay to have it done. lol If it is done right, it will never come off. Just wear gloves when you put this stuff on because I had like a thousand paper cuts on my hands from this shit. It burned like hell in the shower. Also, hose clamps worked a lot better than their outrageously expensive metal ties.
A better question would be "How long will my header last?"
I have heard a myth of Exhaust Wrap, it can reduce the car interior exhaust drone, is that true?
+Xeno Jupiter It doesn't really do anything for the sound. If you wrapped the entire exhaust, it might quiet it down a bit as an added bonus but it will not be a noticeable difference.
Design Engineering, Inc. Ic.... Thank for the reply and information. :)
does the wrap melt
No it will not melt. It is rated to 1800F direct heat and 2500F intermittent heat. In the unlikely event it would ever get that hot, it would not melt. It would get brittle.
Heat wrap destroys YOUR HEADERS.
*Yes! When made of craptastic mild steel of unknown origin. Good materials do not. Your handle is MadeInUSA and that is always a good position to start from. Perhaps you will begin your Strength of Materials course from Ron of TalkingMods, BSME Stanford and ~18 years owner of ModBargains in La Habra, CA. 20 minutes of your time well-spent.* ua-cam.com/video/bg2tMO0eD-E/v-deo.html
*Keep in mind the century-old adage: "Speed costs money, how fast do you want to go?" and "Used oats are much cheaper than new oats". Cheers!*
will this titanium wrap soak oil in a case of an oil leek and catch fire ?