Rancilio Rocky vs. Smart Pro Grinder | CR Comparison

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  • @playbackamusicloversjourne8620
    @playbackamusicloversjourne8620 2 роки тому +10

    I believe the Breville can be adj by lifting off the bean hopper and there's 10 different adjs there as well which gives you a total of about 600 diff. grind settings.

  • @robertgagnon6621
    @robertgagnon6621 6 років тому +7

    I have owned a Rocky for over 10 years. It has never disappointed me.

  • @DCUPtoejuice
    @DCUPtoejuice 5 років тому +11

    I have had the Breville for 3 years now. It is insanely user friendly and stuff full of common sense with good quality grind. The controls leave nothing to want. After I have made adjustments for a new bean, it is very consistent with grind and mass. I cannot imagine any other product coming close to it at it's price point.

    • @DCUPtoejuice
      @DCUPtoejuice 5 років тому

      actually I have the older version of the same Breville, just a toc.

  • @PatricksDIY
    @PatricksDIY 2 роки тому +3

    With the Smart Grinder pro you can adjust the burs and it ultimately has 600 settings "60 settings * 10 burr settings = 600* You can actually get the grind to match the Rancilio :) I mean of course its all about if you feel like going though that

  • @julianh1322
    @julianh1322 5 років тому +5

    Nice review. I have the Rocky by Rancilio in use for about ten years now. Since I care all about the freshness of the grind I decided against the doser variant. Paired with a E61 machine (the QuickMill Andreja Premium) it never has let me down. In my opinion the Rocky is a entry level grinder with some high-end internal parts. I would call Its design and appearance is a bit modest but honest after all.

  • @sallunetta7333
    @sallunetta7333 5 років тому +7

    I just bought the Breville. Its fantastic! I highly recommend it 👍👍👍

  • @brentroman
    @brentroman 6 років тому +15

    Could you please do a comparison between the Baratza Sette 270 and the Rancilio Rocky? I'm trying to decide which way to go. Thanks.

  • @SeattleCoffeeGear
    @SeattleCoffeeGear  9 років тому +3

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  • @LABABIL
    @LABABIL 8 років тому +35

    I just love Gail! Always a thumbs up!

  • @MixyDoodle
    @MixyDoodle 9 років тому +43

    Can't you take the upper burr out of the Breville and change it to go even finer/coarser? I imagine it was set at the middle setting. Should have been mentioned...

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  9 років тому +2

      +MixyDoodle The Breville does have an adjustable burr, however, it is not intended to be used in this fashion. Here is more information on the adjustable burr: ua-cam.com/video/WvDdj1BDqeU/v-deo.html

    • @MixyDoodle
      @MixyDoodle 9 років тому +44

      +Seattle Coffee Gear Appreciate the link, I missed that video when it first came out. That being said, this video sort of implied that the Rocky is a better choice for an espresso grinder (partially because it can grind finer) - but with a small adjustment of a notch or two on the Breville the espresso range would be improved on the Breville. Just saying it would have been worth mentioning.

  • @deanjohn9203
    @deanjohn9203 2 роки тому +1

    Hello, this review was quite some time ago. Is the Breville Smart Grinder Pro available from your website today, the same machine that you reviewed here? I'm in the market for it and am hoping it'll go on sale. Thanks for all the great reviews you've done!

  • @205gtipunk
    @205gtipunk 6 років тому +5

    Is there such a thing as a grinder for home use that will do a good espresso grind AND a good French press coarseness. Without breaking the bank? Love the channel Gail x

    • @labronallen7133
      @labronallen7133 6 років тому

      Depends on your bank. And no. Typically once you've done all the work to dial in your espresso, you don't want to screw it up by changing the grind. The best espresso grinders tend to be step less.

  • @KortKramer
    @KortKramer 5 років тому +2

    I have the Smart Grinder Pro and it is an excellent machine. You can further adjust it from it's 60 settings on the dial by adjust the burr itself. It has 10 settings so there are 600 potential grinds. You can make it as coarse of fine as you like. At half the price I feel it is the better machine. Thanks Gail!

    • @Carefreeblues
      @Carefreeblues 5 років тому +1

      Agreed, I recently purchased the Neville and have no complaints whatsoever.

  • @JamesMHey
    @JamesMHey 9 років тому +2

    Both nice little grinders. I still own my SMART grinder but now i'm in an espresso phase it's been usurped by my Mazzer. My personal take on these two is that if your mostly interested in brewing then the SMART is a good choice but if your buying for use with an espresso machine the Rocky is going to give a little more back.

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  9 років тому

      +JamesMHey Great assessment! While the Breville totally works for espresso, the Rocky has that "heft" you expect in an espresso grinder. Cheers! Thanks for wacthing

  • @fxhood2114
    @fxhood2114 3 роки тому

    always grind "a bit" when adjusting mills by large differences. Helps to avoid damages... my 2ct

  • @nathanadkins2654
    @nathanadkins2654 3 роки тому +2

    Now what about the secondary grind setting in the breville through the burrs itd be nice to know where you were set to on that

  • @AntonioMudge
    @AntonioMudge 4 роки тому

    Wow I just love watching you. So detailed and well spoken.

  • @retrodudefpv
    @retrodudefpv Рік тому

    Sent my Smart Pro back as it developed a fault within a couple of weeks - got a used Rocky, looks like a new one, swapped to new burrs for £140 total. Rocky seems so much more robust especially with direct drive motor compared to the much smaller one in Breville with problematic plastic in the drive gear

  • @Nikosi9
    @Nikosi9 4 роки тому +2

    I've had the Rocky for about 10+ years and from day 1, the thing that bothered me most was having to hold down the grinding switch. Well, I figured out that I could easily replace that switch with an on/off rocker switch, which I did and it works perfectly. IIRC, I got the switch in the local hardware store... I neven understood why Rancilio decided to do it the way they do...

  • @warrenbailey1079
    @warrenbailey1079 7 років тому +20

    The Brevill has more adjustment to the grinder by removing the bean hopper to access the upper burr

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  7 років тому +1

      True! But that should be used as the burrs season. Check this out: ua-cam.com/video/WvDdj1BDqeU/v-deo.html

    • @beachdays561
      @beachdays561 4 роки тому

      The extra adjustment is marginal and the grinder does not really like it, my one sounds sketchy when using it with the other setting

  • @kaylarblue
    @kaylarblue 4 роки тому +2

    Hello, I'm so glad I saw your video.
    I was about to purchase the Breville (Sage in UK) but I needed a grinder that will also produce powder for Turkish coffee.
    Can you recommend a grinder that will produce for espresso, areopress and Turkish please ?
    Many thanks.

  • @pjl626
    @pjl626 9 років тому +2

    Did you notice a significant difference in consistency for the coarse grinds? I have an Espro press and a Chemex for pour over, but I don't make espresso at home, so medium to coarse grind consistency is more important than absolute fineness.

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  9 років тому

      +pjl626 The Breville was more consistent, but you need to remember that it didn't go as course as the Rocky. And the courser you go, the less consistent your grind will be. That being said, we would still recommend the Breville for your brewing needs. We love the Breville for pour over!

    • @Antopc2
      @Antopc2 8 років тому

      I'm in pretty much the same situation, but i do drip/chemex/cold brew, no espresso, so again, fine control is key, is the smart grinder pro the best grinder for this application or is there a better grinder in the under 400ish$ range (I would like a "programmagble grinder" tho for those mornings...)

  • @michaelsingh843
    @michaelsingh843 4 роки тому +1

    Hi Gail, is there a considerable difference in espresso between the both?

  • @allanbesner8200
    @allanbesner8200 8 років тому +2

    Thanks! I love your videos, they are very informative and gives me great information when I am looking for new equipment!

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  8 років тому

      +allan besner Thanks for watching! You are the best! Spread the word ;D

  • @franciabowen2496
    @franciabowen2496 3 роки тому

    Love all your videos, Gail

  • @geogiokas
    @geogiokas Рік тому

    Hi, i find your videos very informative. Which grinder would you recommend for turkish?

  • @jane-annegilson5646
    @jane-annegilson5646 7 років тому +2

    Hi Gail, I am a pensioner (78) wanting to buy my first and last espresso machine and burr grinder. I enjoy espresso, aeropress, chemex and moka. Have read up on Breville BES840XL Infuser and watched your video with interest. Now for a grinder which will last and will suit my requirements - at least until I kick the bucket! I understand when making coffee I should use 15grams coffee to 1 cup water. With regard to the Smart Pro Grinder, how much coffee is ground for the 1 cup setting? Or would the Rancilio Rocky be better? Your advice would be appreciated. Incidentally I have watched so many of your videos - all interesting and informative - many thanks. Regards Jane-Anne, Auckland, NZ

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  7 років тому +2

      The Rocky will last you a good 10-15 years if cleaned and cared for properly. The Breville just doesn't have that lifespan. In your case, the Rocky would be best we think!

  • @johncruzes
    @johncruzes 3 роки тому

    Hi. I have a Silvia. Can I use a Breville Smart or should I wait for a Rocky?

  • @thecatch83
    @thecatch83 8 років тому +1

    Love the new format without man hands chiming in every two seconds....Gail you rock!!! I am on the fence between the Rocky and the Baratza Preciso......both have great reviews. One thing to note, my machine is a Rancilio Silvia so I'm leaning towards the Rocky.

  • @Lucatubo69
    @Lucatubo69 2 роки тому

    Hi. I am grinding arabica and I got the breville. I was grinding at 1-2 minimum settings but today the unit broke. IT got stuck and after cleaning up the motor is making a rattling noise. I bought the unit a little over a month ago. Breville will replace the unit, but I feel this unit won't stand the future and I will likely sold it as used and get the Rancilio instead.

  • @jaymesguy239
    @jaymesguy239 5 років тому +1

    What could anyone suggest as a good setting (number) on this machine for a Chemex coffee?

  • @halimatallah2607
    @halimatallah2607 3 роки тому

    Great video! Question, which grinder would you recommend for both espresso and french press? Thanks :)

  • @limer4330
    @limer4330 6 років тому

    You can hear that the Rancilio is a more powerful grinder. I wound't mind either but the selling point for me is user serviceability and Rancilio is easy to get parts for and service. I read reviews all the time from people that have owned them for 15 + years which to me is amazing.

    • @lizdc1
      @lizdc1 5 років тому

      I have had my rock since 2003

    • @ianburton9030
      @ianburton9030 2 роки тому

      Rocky 140W
      SGP 165W. Tell me again which is the more powerful?

  • @allenmiller2071
    @allenmiller2071 7 років тому +1

    I didn't think you could adjust the grind size without running the machine.

  • @kieras255
    @kieras255 4 роки тому

    I'm after a grinder for la pavoni pl. I'm wondering if sage will do the job or I need something more precise?

  • @saadbelouafi9005
    @saadbelouafi9005 5 років тому

    Hi. What do you recommend : breville smart grinder pro or the de'longhi kg 521M grinder?

  • @MichaelBrown-kg6ob
    @MichaelBrown-kg6ob 7 років тому +1

    Can you speak to how the Breville grinder pro compares to the Rocky when using NON pressurized filter baskets on the Infuser? I struggle getting my pressure up using the Pressurized basket primarily due to a cheap cuisinart burr grinder. Since the rocky produces a finer grind I am wondering if that would be a better choice for espresso shots, however, I like the features of the breville grinder better. Thoughts?

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  7 років тому +1

      You'll get good results for non-pressurized espresso using either grinder. The Rocky is built very tough, though if you like the Breville's features and you already have the Infuser, that may be the way to go. Ultimately, up to you!

  • @allenmiller2071
    @allenmiller2071 7 років тому +4

    At the end of the day, which one will last 5 years with daily use. I heard that if the Breville breaks down there are no spare parts and the grinder is then junk.

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  7 років тому +4

      With regular maintenance and cleaning, both of these machines should last that long. However, the Rocky is an absolute workhorse of a grinder. We've had one at our HQ that has never had to have parts replaced and gets super consistent use!

  • @jaimeperez4698
    @jaimeperez4698 4 роки тому +1

    Hi, which of these two machines do you recommend for a good extra fine grind for Turkish coffee and a coarse grind for French press? thanks for your help

  • @dancoll8166
    @dancoll8166 5 років тому

    I'm laughing at @LABABIL's comment, because I love Gail, too! She'll always get a thumbs up with me.

  • @CHARLIEBITESHARD
    @CHARLIEBITESHARD 9 років тому +4

    It sounds like the breville is working very hard (struggling) to grind those beans.

    • @beachdays561
      @beachdays561 4 роки тому +2

      Would not recommend it for espresso

  • @davidr529
    @davidr529 7 років тому +1

    Hi! I'm looking to 'up' my espresso game and was looking to buy a good grinder before going all out on a rocket or something of the sort. I have Brevilles entry level machine currently. Would the breville pro be a solid option for just espresso use?

    • @retrodudefpv
      @retrodudefpv Рік тому

      I would think about a used/refurb Rocky if you can find one. Much beefier/more robust item & less to go wrong. Massive direct drive motor compared to Breville's which has plastics in the drive gear. Also, Rocky has 50mm flat burrs, compared to Breville's circa 40/42mm conical - good luck trying to replace full set of burrs on Breville. I bought brand new Smart Pro which unfortunately failed within a couple of weeks ( I'm not suggesting this is common ) but the Rocky definitely seems stronger compared to Breville which always sounded laboured on finer grinds compared to Rocky

    • @davidr529
      @davidr529 Рік тому +1

      @@retrodudefpv Blast from the past! My espresso game has been ‘upped’ ever so slightly over the last few years - now using a synchronika and niche zero :)

  • @crichtonism
    @crichtonism 6 років тому +6

    I won't give a thumbs down, cause your videos are awesome, but I was a little disappointed this one. I thought there would be a taste test at the end. I'm a newbie trying to learn and I keep seeing people mention that the grinder is more important than the espresso machine, but seeing grind results isn't the final result... the taste difference is.

    • @jackp9589
      @jackp9589 6 років тому

      Do you feel good about yourself doing that? The numbers aren’t universal on the grinders so it would be almost impossible to get an exact grind for both. There’s too many variables for that. She’s giving a great review of the grind and functionality of the two products. Now remove that thumbs down

    • @crichtonism
      @crichtonism 6 років тому +5

      I can't remove something I didn't do. Reread my first sentence.

  • @Soph348
    @Soph348 7 років тому +1

    Hi, is the pro the same as is in the barista express? And is that the same as the Oracle? Thank you

  • @deanbestall
    @deanbestall 9 років тому +1

    Love your videos. Wanted to get the Smart, in the UK we have one made by Sage which looks like the exact same grinder. I liked the timed grind feature on the Smart. I use a Gaggia Classic, will the Smart grind complement the Gaggia Classic well enough? Thanks

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  9 років тому +1

      +Dean Bestall Thanks for watching! Both of these grinders would work well enough for your machine. But like Gail mentions in the video, the Rocky does have more adjustability when it comes to the grind. Enjoy your new machines! ;D

    • @deanbestall
      @deanbestall 9 років тому

      +Seattle Coffee Gear Thanks for the reply. Out of curiosity, there are several other grinders in this price point, did you pick these two for this video because they're the best at their respective price points? The Smart is £200 ($300ish) here in the UK, I'm looking for bang for my buck (pound :p)

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  9 років тому

      +Dean Bestall We are on a mission to compare all sorts of coffee gear. Sometimes we choose to compare based on price point or features. But sometimes we compare coffee gear that is suggested in our comment section! Check out this playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLxsjzGY0Fi2ShKXByN3dgUfS9R8N8qMj-.html

    • @mathiaschristensen479
      @mathiaschristensen479 6 років тому +2

      Breville and Sage is the same company, but they mainly use Sage as brand in Europe and Breville in US. But some Breville branded products have made it to Europe. I work at a retailer selling Sage and Breville stuff (Swedish Dixons/Currys).

    • @mglenn7092
      @mglenn7092 4 роки тому

      Breville (home base: Australia) had some kind of corporate branding issue or deal regarding use of the Breville name in Europe (apparently there is or was another company using Breville as a brand name there), so Breville uses the brand-name Sage in Europe. So, yep, it is the same grinder from the same company, just different branding on it.

  • @HazemAls
    @HazemAls 4 роки тому

    thanks!

  • @pauldorogoff2110
    @pauldorogoff2110 3 роки тому

    Need to list average price

  • @TorbjrnJrgensen
    @TorbjrnJrgensen 9 років тому +3

    Good review. One plus for the Smart Pro is that it sounded quieter at least, but the lack of coarser grind makes me want to stick with the Rocky :)
    One thing I dislike about the Rocky is that I have to abuse it pretty hard to get out the last coffee grinds.
    PS: You still have a very shallow dept of focus on your camera, increasing that should be doable since you have good lighting at your set.

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  9 років тому +2

      +Torbjørn Jørgensen Cheers! Thanks for the input- but this is the image we prefer (at least for the time being!)

  • @yes9098
    @yes9098 2 роки тому

    Never give you the thumb’s down since you share so much 😆👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻tq

  • @kc2ecd
    @kc2ecd 2 роки тому

    I'm confused as to why you compare a $200 grinder to a $400+ grinder.

  • @djp1234
    @djp1234 9 років тому

    Hey do you guys know if there is a Grind & Brew coffeemaker out there that's made out of stainless steel and glass? Something without any plastic parts touching the coffee. Something that doesn't give you cancer.

    • @melonbarmonster
      @melonbarmonster 8 років тому

      No one buying these machines would use a grind and brew machine. These grinders start at 300 bucks not to mention the espresso machines. If you don't want glass maybe you can get a Hario hand grinder and a ceramic or glass hand pour device. Keep watching these videos.

  • @orrinbelcher6593
    @orrinbelcher6593 7 років тому

    Great review

  • @chrisdturner
    @chrisdturner 5 років тому +1

    The Smart grinder isn't 'stepped' as such, it's just that the display only shows 60 grind size values. I've found you can actually make smaller adjustments within each of the displayed values to dial in further if you adjust the dial carefully.

  • @marklucera6530
    @marklucera6530 9 років тому +1

    the adjustable burrs on the smart grinder pro dramatically increase the range of grind. I'm surprised that wasn't highlighted at the end. you're not going to change the burr every time but you might want to show folks the coarest and finest grind on the highest and lowest burr settings.

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  9 років тому +1

      +Mark Lucera Take a look here for more explanation on that adjustable burr: ua-cam.com/video/WvDdj1BDqeU/v-deo.html

  • @fabiangenerao7367
    @fabiangenerao7367 5 років тому +3

    There are more adjustment inside the burr assembly. You just missed it!!!

  • @michaelmacnaughton2417
    @michaelmacnaughton2417 9 років тому

    Do you need to grind as you change the grind setting for the rocky?

    • @SeattleCoffeeGear
      @SeattleCoffeeGear  9 років тому +3

      +michael macnaughton Yes. It's one of those "do as we say not as we do" types of situations :D

    • @michaelmacnaughton2417
      @michaelmacnaughton2417 9 років тому

      +Seattle Coffee Gear haha ok, thanks

  • @reidburford8159
    @reidburford8159 9 років тому +2

    Is it possible to put a smart grinder pro hopper on the Barista express? It looks like the same size.

    • @ryno4573
      @ryno4573 6 років тому

      Reid Burford yes

  • @johnwick860
    @johnwick860 Рік тому

    Rancillo Rocky will last you for at least 10 years, it is built like a tank

  • @jamoco1
    @jamoco1 7 років тому

    Gail, you didn't mention you can alter the grind on the sage by moving the top burr

  • @Igor-q3f
    @Igor-q3f Рік тому

    Hope the people who collect that coffee for $0.50 a day don’t see you throwing out that coffee.

  • @fredsalfa
    @fredsalfa 6 років тому +6

    The Rancilio Rocky is twice the price of the Breville though

    • @50drew80
      @50drew80 5 років тому +2

      The breville also has 10 more settings inside the conical burrs too. Giving a total of 600 different settings

    • @numanuma20
      @numanuma20 5 років тому

      Andrew Radebaugh nice

  • @CHARLIEBITESHARD
    @CHARLIEBITESHARD 9 років тому

    Your breville will probably break in a few years. The Rocky will last a lifetime. My only complaint with the Rocky is that my burgers seemed to wear down pretty quick. I have to grind at #3 or #2 for espresso. I am not bashing breville, just speaking from experience owning at least four different Breville espresso machines.

  • @crookedFC
    @crookedFC 8 років тому

    Great video - real straight shooting, no waffle #offtobuythebreville but I'm in Australia 🇦🇺

  • @_multiverse_
    @_multiverse_ 3 роки тому

    The Breville sounds underpowered

  • @melonbarmonster
    @melonbarmonster 4 роки тому +3

    Smart Pro will last few years and then you'll have to throw it away. The Rocky will last you a lifetime and all parts are replaceable and repairable.

    • @FirstLastOne
      @FirstLastOne 4 роки тому

      Always buy the Breville stuff from big box stores that offer extended warranties that way you'll get a new machine or your money back. It's too bad that Breville's QC is hit and miss and that they cut corners where it's gonna cost them FAR MORE THAN IT'S WORTH.

  • @Micko350
    @Micko350 7 років тому +2

    Nothing like comparing apples with apples!!!

    • @SSchithFoo
      @SSchithFoo 6 років тому +1

      More like comparing one apple with 2 apples.

  • @justinbouchard
    @justinbouchard Рік тому

    omg i cannot believe how much coffee you threw away and wasted in this 9 minute video......

  • @MG-sg4xf
    @MG-sg4xf 4 роки тому

    i love you! :-)

  • @johndavies5023
    @johndavies5023 3 роки тому

    Skip both, spend a little more and get a Eureka Mignon Facile. Breville will most likely not support their plastic when it breaks. Bloated with technology but no substance where it counts.

  • @fijismart1
    @fijismart1 4 роки тому

    Just watched this...kind of disappointed to see the bias for the Rancilio Rocky....this was not an objective review.

  • @feistybastard
    @feistybastard 7 років тому +4

    Not too hard to say the Rocky is a better grinder.