Thank you for your clear and in-depth presentations. You are helping me expand my knowledge of NM history, most of which I learned from my uncle Francisco Sisneros (Hispanic Genealogical Research Center of New Mexico) as he sought to help us understand who we are as a people. I look forward to your next one!
This history makes it even more curious as to why people in northern New Mexico view themselves as Spanish not Mexican, very unlike southern New Mexico.
It stands to reason, there were Spanish for more than 200 years before becoming what we now know as Mexicans for a very short period. Not that it really makes any difference, same roots.
Amazing lecture I could listen to you all day! You are a true treasure to our culture & people. I love identifying as Mexicano from Nuevo México. I can remember my grandparents on both sides saying Mexicano. I feel like our culture is more Mexicano than from Spain. Either way its all good. I think New Mexicans subconsciously want to be white/European so they call themselves Spanish. lol
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The Spanish empire territories were governed locally, contrary to what you mention as colonies, Spain did not have colonies, at least not what is generally understood as colonies, like the British, French and Dutch had, the Spanish empire was a totally different animal, much more complex and colorful.
Spain had a viceroy in Mexico City who answered to the king. The viceroy in Mexico City appointed governors in places like New Mexico who answered to the viceroy. New Mexico was a colony of Mexico, then called New Spain. Just because it didn't look like a British colony does not mean it was not a colony. It was. Thanks for watching.
Colony: a country or area under the full or partial political control of another country, typically a distant one, and occupied by settlers from that country. New Mexico in the 1600s, 1700s and nearly 1800s certainly fit that description.
Father country. Spain is my fatherland, not my motherland. You definitely have speak in ways that I would expect someone from a modern English speaking country to speak. It's very feminine. No offense, just an observation.
You wear your bias as a badge. I am mixed German and original settled Spanish New Mexican. Great grandmother was a Valdez. You have a different tone when speaking about American occupation and take over compared to Spanish occupation and take over. To be clear I don’t care about either. No culture is innocent of that sin. We have all been the conquered and conquerer. I just don’t like the subtle tone you inject when speaking about the American take over. We would not be better off as true Mexican nationalists.
Perception is subjective. I too am of Spanish and German descent. I don’t hear a pejorative bias when Mr. Martinez speaks of the Americanization of New Mexico. To me, he gives a pretty balanced look at the benefits and disadvantages of all the successive waves that have engulfed this land.
Great Job Rob! Those nuances are important even today! Goofy Historians love New Mexico history!
Thank you, Goofy Historians!
Thank you for your clear and in-depth presentations. You are helping me expand my knowledge of NM history, most of which I learned from my uncle Francisco Sisneros (Hispanic Genealogical Research Center of New Mexico) as he sought to help us understand who we are as a people. I look forward to your next one!
Cool! I knew Francisco, a great man and a great researcher!
This is one of my favorites and there are many that need to hear this! Great Job!
Thank you!
Thanks Primo! You do all the work and I am reaping the benefits. I’m thankful for all that you do. 😊
Thank you, it is my pleasure!
Very fascinating, thank you
My mother born there San Felipe NM my whole family
Wonderful
This history makes it even more curious as to why people in northern New Mexico view themselves as Spanish not Mexican, very unlike southern New Mexico.
It is strange, rooted in becoming a state and being perceived as more European.
Normal, los del norte de Río Grande no se independizaron de España, fueron los Mexicanos los que se independizaron de España.😊
Ive seen Mexican memes online teasing northern Mexicans for having the same viewpoint.
Idk which way this idea had permeated of the two regions
It stands to reason, there were Spanish for more than 200 years before becoming what we now know as Mexicans for a very short period. Not that it really makes any difference, same roots.
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Amazing lecture I could listen to you all day! You are a true treasure to our culture & people. I love identifying as Mexicano from Nuevo México. I can remember my grandparents on both sides saying Mexicano. I feel like our culture is more Mexicano than from Spain. Either way its all good. I think New Mexicans subconsciously want to be white/European so they call themselves Spanish. lol
Gracias Marc! I appreciate you excellent points!
Good Analysis
Thank you, Joseph!
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Gracias! I appreciate it.
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What a shame 😂
@@josegonzalez6231 Don't worry. It's just history! :)
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The Spanish empire territories were governed locally, contrary to what you mention as colonies, Spain did not have colonies, at least not what is generally understood as colonies, like the British, French and Dutch had, the Spanish empire was a totally different animal, much more complex and colorful.
Spain had a viceroy in Mexico City who answered to the king. The viceroy in Mexico City appointed governors in places like New Mexico who answered to the viceroy. New Mexico was a colony of Mexico, then called New Spain. Just because it didn't look like a British colony does not mean it was not a colony. It was. Thanks for watching.
Colony: a country or area under the full or partial political control of another country, typically a distant one, and occupied by settlers from that country. New Mexico in the 1600s, 1700s and nearly 1800s certainly fit that description.
Father country. Spain is my fatherland, not my motherland. You definitely have speak in ways that I would expect someone from a modern English speaking country to speak. It's very feminine. No offense, just an observation.
No offense taken. Your avatar image is of a man wearing a wig, so I suppose we both have our "feminine" attributes, right?
@@robmartinez7517 I genuinely laughed out loud at reading that. I like that you're a good sport. I'm totally disarmed. Have a good day
@@robmartinez7517 And you kind of look like Andrea Bocelli. You'll never be able to unsee it.
Gloria a la patria
@@CarolusLinnaeusJr-tn2et The great Italian tenor! I take that as a compliment. I love his music! No, I will neve be able to unsee it! Take care.
You wear your bias as a badge. I am mixed German and original settled Spanish New Mexican. Great grandmother was a Valdez. You have a different tone when speaking about American occupation and take over compared to Spanish occupation and take over. To be clear I don’t care about either. No culture is innocent of that sin. We have all been the conquered and conquerer. I just don’t like the subtle tone you inject when speaking about the American take over. We would not be better off as true Mexican nationalists.
Perception is subjective. I too am of Spanish and German descent. I don’t hear a pejorative bias when Mr. Martinez speaks of the Americanization of New Mexico. To me, he gives a pretty balanced look at the benefits and disadvantages of all the successive waves that have engulfed this land.