Chey, I truely do love doing inspection related activities. My profession is nitch and rewards those who are motivated. You should hear me talk about stuff I'm REALLY excited about.....
Like listening to paint dry! Crazy how someone could make this topic so interesting. Love the no nonsense, common sense attitude. Think of what we could accomplish as an industrialized nation with more folks like Erik! Great video.
Paint is weird stuff, back in the sixties I was working for the army in the Marshall islands, the Sherwin Williams company had these little paint test stands facing the ocean with what seemed hundreds of different types of paint and it's amazing how many formulas for paint there are. Interesting good show Doug.
Speaking of de-greasers, straight Simple Green will dissolve roofing tar and will cut engine oil no problem. It is really safe enough to be used before sanitation in meat packing plants to cut animal fat off of concrete and equipment. I would recommend carrying a few gallons aboard ship for de-greasing and general cleaning without sanitizing since it is safe enough that you aren't going to have issues with bringing it into port somewhere and an inspector telling you it is illegal in that country.
Hey Doug, You mentioned possibly cleaning around and under those pipes below the flooring... was thinking you could make an inside out belt sander arrangement for wrapping around the inaccessible bottom portions by taking a regular belt, then cutting it on a diagonal bias so it can be wrapped around the pipe in place with the grit facing inwards, and patch the seam with some wraps of duct tape, ALL the way around the belt. With that in place it can be turned by a drill chuck wrapped with tape, or if you have some sections of bicycle tire that fit the chuck snugly, that will give the belt traction to spin around the pipe freely.... Otherwise there's always long strips of crocus cloth/sandpaper by hand to clean it up...
I need a new career where i enjoy it like this coatings guy. Granted BIG commercial concrete construction does excite me and is gratifying(plus get to "stand" places most ppl never see. Like 30 stories up hanging on a chain) but it also isnt consistent.
For pipe coating, grab a car wash glove and a dish wash glove. Put dish washing glove on, car wash glove on, dip in paint and paint pipe. This let's you wrap around the pipe with your hand and paint it quickly
Such a happy fellow, and never at a loss for words. Kind of in his own little world of specialization, with tons of related knowledge. Sometimes you have to wonder if being around the sealed surface chemicals too much, and for too long, might have an effect on one's mind. 😏
Chris, some of the coating jobs that I inspect look like train wrecks. Perhaps on of these days I'll do a video of one of those types of coating situations.
When we spray Intumescent coatings on structural steel, we get 15-30 mils first pass and final thickness varies from 60-280 dry mils. we will do 1 pass a day. It looks great when complete, but it is very very expensive
And if that coating ever is in a fire it will expand even more, and it will be worth everything it costs. Much better than the old cement based system.
@@MrEric_API We apply cementitious fireproofing also. certain levels of it are great. All of the cementitious products are more cost friendly than the intumescent and the job can be completed faster with cementitious. Intumescent is great for an exposed area.
@@roxborotomm yes its cheaper, however there are better options for most clients. Cementitious coatings are prone to trapping moisture, and eventually liquid water. Some of the worst external surface corrosion I've seen in my career have been at these locations. Anytime moisture gets trapped, corrosion will follow. If drainage paths are planned, it will go a long. Like do many options, If applied correctly and properly maintained it can work, but if cost savings was a deciding factor, then adequate maintenance will likely suffer also. Age old dilemma.....
@@MrEric_API Most cementitious fireproofing products are used indoors in a controlled environment. We have done some exterior cementitious work. but it closely resembles concrete. Cracks will form that will be caulked. Nothing is fool proof
@@roxborotomm yes. Nothing is fool proof, and most of the examples I see are old to quite old (perhaps even really old) and yes the maintenence ignored is the largest contributer to damage. "We gotta do the maintenence"
On outboard motors we use this corrosion inhibitor. Spray on and leaves a nice film of grease. CRC Industries 06026 Heavy Duty Corrosion Guard Protectant Spray Rust Inhibitor
Thank you Doug and Eric for the very informative coating video. Never knew there was so much science behind corrosion prevention. Things have sure changed for slapping a coat of "paint" on something. Take care and have a good weekend.
If you want to see wear on non skid you should see an Aircraft Carrier flight deck, those get some serious wear especially where the catch cables rub when planes land.
The coating getting applied is some of the shortest work. The preparation, the planning, staging, scaffolding, then afterwards there is the cleanup and teardown. Spraying paint, that's the short period right in the middle......
For pipe joints look to the sprinkler pipe industry. Numerous products for fire piping in highly corrosive area all so color code all piping that way if piping breaks and or leaks you know what system to belongs to. Also boiler piping systems. Recommend to contact CH2m Hill for processing piping for waster water treatment plants multi system piping coating and protection.
@@mwhelan53 absolutley. Yes, I could fill entire videos and update monthly of my "adventures" . How I tell them usually depends on their mood while we have been interacting. Good mood=good mood.
Cold tar, or the Amerlock on a car would hold a lot of dirt and grim. Lots of surface area. Would be difficult to keep clean. Yes the coating would last a long time.
I want to toss this into your coating mix. I worked for an off shore company that sold and repaired down hole tools. After the repairs they were cleaned and dried. We then dipped them into vats of WD-40 and hung them up to air dry. After the raw iron or other steel dried we would paint with paint. The tools would go out on jobs along the coast as well as offshore. This process kept them from rusting up and seizing up. You could get a few 25 gallons of WD-40 to go on your journey. If you see a rust spot or a nick just coat it. I was always surprised that WD-40 could be painted over.
Any paint applied to thick will not adhere to the surface. I've dealt with these paint mill experts for decades, in the end it is still a guessing game on the overall film thickness of a structure.
always love listening to Eric talk. You can really tell he loves the subject and is more than just a job to him. more a vocation
Chey, I truely do love doing inspection related activities. My profession is nitch and rewards those who are motivated. You should hear me talk about stuff I'm REALLY excited about.....
Hard to believe I watched a 30 minute video on coatings. But i want More!
yup the more we learn the less we know..
I watched the coating video from a year ago right before this one and enjoyed all of the 1.5 hours :D
Like listening to paint dry! Crazy how someone could make this topic so interesting. Love the no nonsense, common sense attitude. Think of what we could accomplish as an industrialized nation with more folks like Erik! Great video.
Paint is weird stuff, back in the sixties I was working for the army in the Marshall islands, the Sherwin Williams company had these little paint test stands facing the ocean with what seemed hundreds of different types of paint and it's amazing how many formulas for paint there are. Interesting good show Doug.
That was way more interesting than i thought it would be.
Speaking of de-greasers, straight Simple Green will dissolve roofing tar and will cut engine oil no problem. It is really safe enough to be used before sanitation in meat packing plants to cut animal fat off of concrete and equipment. I would recommend carrying a few gallons aboard ship for de-greasing and general cleaning without sanitizing since it is safe enough that you aren't going to have issues with bringing it into port somewhere and an inspector telling you it is illegal in that country.
Simple green works great but it's mildly corrosive to aluminium. Got to make sure it gets washed off well.
@@eliasb794 I didn't know that about it. Then again, I have never used it to clean Al. Thanks for the tip.
What a great couple of post on industrial coatings. Totally immersing and enjoyable.
Great video
Hey Doug, You mentioned possibly cleaning around and under those pipes below the flooring... was thinking you could make an inside out belt sander arrangement for wrapping around the inaccessible bottom portions by taking a regular belt, then cutting it on a diagonal bias so it can be wrapped around the pipe in place with the grit facing inwards, and patch the seam with some wraps of duct tape, ALL the way around the belt. With that in place it can be turned by a drill chuck wrapped with tape, or if you have some sections of bicycle tire that fit the chuck snugly, that will give the belt traction to spin around the pipe freely.... Otherwise there's always long strips of crocus cloth/sandpaper by hand to clean it up...
Mike, it doesn't need anything like that level of preparation to be ready for receiving an application of coating
been watching this build for quite some time nothing more i enjoy than seeing a new video released when im home from work
I need a new career where i enjoy it like this coatings guy. Granted BIG commercial concrete construction does excite me and is gratifying(plus get to "stand" places most ppl never see. Like 30 stories up hanging on a chain) but it also isnt consistent.
Great Video! Eric's passion for his craft is very contagious. Love it.
Eric has a lot of good tips...Enjoyed this show...
For pipe coating, grab a car wash glove and a dish wash glove. Put dish washing glove on, car wash glove on, dip in paint and paint pipe. This let's you wrap around the pipe with your hand and paint it quickly
Yep, thats how the tower guys do it! I've watched em paint radio towers that way, goes fast!
I love it, his beard gets more epic every time we see him!
Elias, it's maxed out. Any longer and it hangs out of a welding or grinding hood and gets shortened, if I'm not super careful.
This episode and Eric are Sierra Hotel!
Thanks, watch for more videos, and other craziness
Such a happy fellow, and never at a loss for words. Kind of in his own little world of specialization, with tons of related knowledge. Sometimes you have to wonder if being around the sealed surface chemicals too much, and for too long, might have an effect on one's mind. 😏
Gilbert, I just have a lot of fun doing what I do best.
Life is too short not to enjoy everything you do. It's not the task, it's the attitude.
Holy Shit, this man is a wealth of information with coatings! Love the video Doug!!!! Thank You for sharing. Matt C.
I love this guy he makes the thickness of paint seen as interesting as crash footage or other action that holds your interest
Chris, some of the coating jobs that I inspect look like train wrecks. Perhaps on of these days I'll do a video of one of those types of coating situations.
When we spray Intumescent coatings on structural steel, we get 15-30 mils first pass and final thickness varies from 60-280 dry mils. we will do 1 pass a day. It looks great when complete, but it is very very expensive
And if that coating ever is in a fire it will expand even more, and it will be worth everything it costs. Much better than the old cement based system.
@@MrEric_API We apply cementitious fireproofing also. certain levels of it are great. All of the cementitious products are more cost friendly than the intumescent and the job can be completed faster with cementitious. Intumescent is great for an exposed area.
@@roxborotomm yes its cheaper, however there are better options for most clients. Cementitious coatings are prone to trapping moisture, and eventually liquid water. Some of the worst external surface corrosion I've seen in my career have been at these locations. Anytime moisture gets trapped, corrosion will follow. If drainage paths are planned, it will go a long. Like do many options, If applied correctly and properly maintained it can work, but if cost savings was a deciding factor, then adequate maintenance will likely suffer also. Age old dilemma.....
@@MrEric_API Most cementitious fireproofing products are used indoors in a controlled environment. We have done some exterior cementitious work. but it closely resembles concrete. Cracks will form that will be caulked. Nothing is fool proof
@@roxborotomm yes. Nothing is fool proof, and most of the examples I see are old to quite old (perhaps even really old) and yes the maintenence ignored is the largest contributer to damage. "We gotta do the maintenence"
its good that the meter can test the paint as to pull all that stuff out of the engine room would suck if you had to do it twice....
So once this ship is complete and on the water will you continue creating videos on ship operations?
The dry film tester is an eddy current machine. It will work on any conductive material.
Very clever chap. 👍👍
On outboard motors we use this corrosion inhibitor. Spray on and leaves a nice film of grease.
CRC Industries 06026 Heavy Duty Corrosion Guard Protectant Spray Rust Inhibitor
This guy seems to know what is talking about ! Cool Thanks!
hi the boat is going very well and looking very good not long to go now.
Thank you Doug and Eric for the very informative coating video. Never knew there was so much science behind corrosion prevention. Things have sure changed for slapping a coat of "paint" on something. Take care and have a good weekend.
Well when billions maybe trillions of dollars rests on not rusting away engineers go deep
If you want to see wear on non skid you should see an Aircraft Carrier flight deck, those get some serious wear especially where the catch cables rub when planes land.
Thank you.
I had no idea so much went in to painting a boat.
The coating getting applied is some of the shortest work. The preparation, the planning, staging, scaffolding, then afterwards there is the cleanup and teardown. Spraying paint, that's the short period right in the middle......
That was cool !
My 30 year old boar trailer that goes in salt water is in GREAT condition
because the running gear has a hard grease coating.
For pipe joints look to the sprinkler pipe industry. Numerous products for fire piping in highly corrosive area all so color code all piping that way if piping breaks and or leaks you know what system to belongs to. Also boiler piping systems. Recommend to contact CH2m Hill for processing piping for waster water treatment plants multi system piping coating and protection.
Keep the content comin’ Doug 😎
It’s all that saw dust going to hold moisture and challenge the coatings more than if it wasn’t there?
take a piece of tig wire make a hoop with 45 bends on the ends you can slip it under your floor to lift it out super simple
Yup no holidays here ~ carry-on
Nope. Holiday Testing is coming next. : )
This guy's sounds just like Aaron Cowen from sage Dynamics. The similarity is crazy
Time to do some jeep testing.
You are going to love the next video
@@MrEric_API just don't wear a big southern belt buckle.
Hey Doug, Cheers. Im always impressed by your motivation. Looking forward to the deck crane project too. Thanks
What's the music at the end of this video? Shazam only seems to find modified versions of it that are entirely messed up.
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Thank God they didn’t put Eric in charge of musical plays - Industrially Coat your wagon just doesn’t have the same ring to it.
How about "coat your cart the colour red"?
Eric just can’t see it in lights on the marquis
Eric just can’t see it in lights on the marquis
You must have some interesting days when you have to tell contractors ‘basically you fucked up’
@@mwhelan53 absolutley. Yes, I could fill entire videos and update monthly of my "adventures" . How I tell them usually depends on their mood while we have been interacting. Good mood=good mood.
How interesting was THAT??? Pretty pretty neato
How about Denso tape on the piping under the floor?
video from AVE on Denso tape
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I find it hard to believe the readings he's calling out a lot of the time. . . is it millimetres he's measuring in? Or a smaller measurement?
1 mil = .001"
I'm curious about his glasses. Are those for migraine relief by chance?
Light sensitivity.......
Dam Doug is that snow in tulsa
Jet hot coating company around Oklahoma maybe they can make your boat pretty and last longer
seam sealer on the pipe joints?
Watch for an upcoming video.. when I get a chance to go back and visit I'll bring a great product to protect the exposed threads
I love watching people talk about their work with passion. Easy and interesting to listen to even if i dont know two shits about paints / coatings.
PPG is pretty good, we’ve had better luck with Sherwin Willams Zinc Clad HS, macropoxy, and arcolon
What are the advantages of arcolon over other urethanes?
Mr. Garber better UV resistance
@@bduff007 under what what temperature and humidity conditions can apply it?
I don’t see why u couldn’t coat a car in that shit
Cold tar, or the Amerlock on a car would hold a lot of dirt and grim. Lots of surface area. Would be difficult to keep clean. Yes the coating would last a long time.
he is such an interesting guy to listen to...
1 inch is 25.4 mm I have a hard time beliving that you have almost 1 inch of paint on the boat! But I have no experince of boats and coats! :-)
Mats Sjölund mils not mm.
@gary tubular No 25,4 mm is one inch.
I want to toss this into your coating mix. I worked for an off shore company that sold and repaired down hole tools. After the repairs they were cleaned and dried. We then dipped them into vats of WD-40 and hung them up to air dry. After the raw iron or other steel dried we would paint with paint. The tools would go out on jobs along the coast as well as offshore. This process kept them from rusting up and seizing up. You could get a few 25 gallons of WD-40 to go on your journey. If you see a rust spot or a nick just coat it. I was always surprised that WD-40 could be painted over.
This guy looks like Jack Black
I'll take that as a complete compliment!!!!!
👍
I thought you were dead.
Any paint applied to thick will not adhere to the surface. I've dealt with these paint mill experts for decades, in the end it is still a guessing game on the overall film thickness of a structure.
Checking the thickness of the coating is imperative that the outcome doesn't lead to an explosion and a potential head trauma! 😘