I guarantee from the day Eglinton crosstown opens, within a few months it'll be suffering from overcrowding. The fact Sheppard will have a complete subway from Sheppard West to potentially Morningside, while Toronto's main east west midtown route will have a glorified streetcar is absolutely hilarious. This should have been a subway from day one. A city like Toronto can't rely on "LRTs"...yes the streetcars can be used as a feeder system, but Eglinton is going to prove LRTs simply can't work in a city like Toronto. The problems with Eglinton aren't ending, they're only beginning.
man if Mike Harris didn’t let the construction of a tunnel at Eglinton West be filled in even if the line was cancelled, the Crosstown would’ve been a subway with these major grade separation and having smaller tunnels. Funny that a store in Eglinton Square for wall designs for a subway stations that will never get built in Scarborough while also having served by almost three surface stops. That weird island in between O’Connor, Eglinton, and Victoria Park would’ve been a perfect bus interchange station
The true start date of this mess was in the mid-90's when then-premier Harris cancelled the Eglinton subway - I remember driving around a series of holes that were already dug for that project which is really this project.
@@XandateOfHeaven Thanks for that info - there's also the mess called Hwy. 407 - Harris basically gave it to the builder and that's why tolls are too high to get most drivers to use it instead of Hwy 401.
@@XandateOfHeaven @morganjo2002 Harris truly was the worst. 30 years later, we're STILL being negatively effected by his bullshit. Politics matters, people. Next to go must be slug ford.
@@EVIL-CAnd now he’s chairman of long term care homes.. shutting public options and super charging private care homes so that boomers won’t have any money to pass onto their kids.
So the plaza at Mt Dennis for the unopened line, is being ripped up, so that they can build the extension of an unopened line. You literally can't make this shit up...
there has been signage going up announcing that the bus route changes for this line are taking effect soon, hopefully this indicates we're approaching that last 3 month window
A first metro line in HCMC, Vietnam has recently opened in late 2024. The metro has also faced numerous delays due to financing as construction began in 2012 but I'm very surprised that it was managed to be completed before this Eglinton crosstown LRT, despite constructing in 2011. The HCMC metro looks way nicer as the stations are more modern, consists platform screen doors, travels 20km/h faster and the fact it is less than 1/4 the construction cost of Eglinton crosstown is an absolute joke. Most of HCMC metro stations are elevated with some being underground. I don't know if I can call Eglinton crosstown a metro or subway, because it runs like existing streetcar in downtown Toronto. The only thing similar between those 2 railway lines is they're both similar in terms of length. Clearly Canada is far wealthier than Vietnam. Why can't Toronto construct more metro lines that are elevated in the first place, as they're more efficient of traveling as faster speeds and handling more passengers compared to street cars. And the fact a city in a high income country constructs a construction project slower than a low income country is embarrassing to a whole other level.
Unpopular opinion: The eastern surface portion of the line should probably be shut down at some point in the future if it proves too slow and rebuilt fully grade separated with some of the close stops being removed (IE: Hakimi-Lebovic).
Not unpopular, logical. The surface section in Scarborough could be as slow as Spadina streetcars. I just don't understand why the city REFUSES to give the TTC signal priority, when this section should be rapid and not running at turtle neck speed.
@@nanaokyere7141 Thanks. I used to ride the Eglinton bus on that portion, the bus was so slow and the new LRT will probably be nearly as slow as the bus. The people in that area deserve rapid transit.
This is embarrassing and disgraceful. Only in this country do you see this kind of rubbish planning and construction that what we call the third world is excelling at. Fantastic video you put together. Keep up this amazing work. Its better than what our 'experts' are capable of doing
We NEED to protest this line ASAP. No more delays or excuses. Also, when this line opens, they need to fire the CEO of Metrolinx, Phil Verster. We've been waiting 14 YEARS and in that same time span, his pay has gone up SIGNIFICANTLY. Ridiculous and insulting.
By the way the only subway project that was completed on time and under budget was the Sheppard line… completed by TTC only.. no private contractors in charge.
I don’t understand why on the surface the transit signal turns red before regular traffic light and does that mean partial TSP will just make it more or less the same frequency as the regular light
Because of national and provincial security, the opening date of the first section of Line 5 is withheld, unless you have the needed security clearance.
Thank you very much Transitthinker. I’m really grateful for your videos. Q: Any idea when construction will start on the the GO station at Caledonia? Is there a commitment to building it?
It's insane the time it's taking to build this thing. Montreal did 70 kilometers and double the station, and two-thirds are already in service. They started at the same time.
Shenzhen Metro subway system was built from the ground up from nothing in 1998 to almost 600 km of subway lines at the end of 2024. Its an embarrassment that it might take almost the same amount of time for only 30km of LRT at a much higher cost for this corrupt, stupid project.
Reminder that the Shenzhen Metro subway system was built from nothing in 1998 to opening its first subway lines in 2004 to now having almost 600 km of subway lines at the end of 2024 with plans to build even more. Meanwhile if Metrolinx can finish the 30km Eglinton LRT east-west lines in under 30 years and under 20 billion, they'll pat themselves on the back for a job well done. How did Canada fall so far behind?!?!?
The Eglinton Crosstown Light Rail Transit Network has now taken over a decade to complete. Line 1 subway system which is longer was completed in only 8 years and is 8.3 km in length and its operational. Metrolinx is taking the city and the province for all it can get in money. Expect an increase in transit fares for the Greater Toronto Area.
I don't think you can confidently assert that the surface section of line 5 will be faster than the bus it's replacing. Finch West is now expected to be just as fast as the bus on that corridor was before construction started, of course with half as many stops, dedicated lanes, and signal priority, which are all lacking for the bus. And in general, surface trams have a pretty hard average speed limit of 19km/h, with very few systems exceeding that value
There is no accountability, and therefore no repercussions for the lack of transparency. This project is a cash cow for some lucky people who aren't in any way incentivized to hasten the completion.
But, good lifetime employment for a lucky few! I expect that people who were apprentices when the project started will be able to retire from it, never having worked anywhere else!
Doug Ford ran an entire election campaign where none of the PC candidates were allowed to talk to the press or their constituents. He ran with no platform, no promises besides lowering the gas tax, and didn’t talk to anyone. I think the lack of transparency is here to stay.
One thing that hasn’t changed is it still hasn’t opened after 5 years over its planned opening and the fact we have no clue why it hasn’t opened or when it will open.
They have been testing the trains for over a year now but nobody can ride them yet because that little piece of sidewalk 50ft away from the trains on the other side of the street needs to be dug up and rebuilt every couple of weeks. People just can't ride the train if that little piece of sidewalk is just not right
Should have been completely underground and used trains, Torontos planners are country bumpkins with no idea what type of infrastructure is required🤦🏾♂️
We Canadians are so naive when we criticize others' country on " corruption," "Africa countries, China, Vietnam, etc... But at home, Canada here... we " harbor " all kinds of corruptions. This Ellington Cross town LRT and many more constructions are where the corruptions taken places, right in front of your eyes
Public money sitting there for years. By the time we use it its time to be renovated and updated. Open up at least some of the grass areas outside and sitting areas inside for the public that funded it.
This video shows a lot of bike lanes, which have become controversial lately. Doug Ford is getting rid of them. I think it is still too early to decide this. Covid-19 has changed transportation usage since about 2020. That's only four years ago -- not enough to evaluate long term effects.
The bike lanes on Eglinton didn’t affect car traffic because there hasn’t been any significant car traffic on Eglinton for 10 years. The Crosstown construction made it impractical for anyone to drive on Eglinton.
Some parts of phase 1 are already starting to look run down. It's so ridiculous. Don't we pay private companies like this SPECIFICALLY because they're supposed to have prior experience and avoid these kind of delays?
NORTH AMERICA/CANADA, reason for “SLOWER BUILS, IS CORRUPTION!” Also “NO CHARGES FOR DELAY OF COMPLETION!” CHINA would have completed MANY-MANY KILOMETRES IN JUST A FEW MONTHS. WHY?
This project is a complete embarrassment to all Torontonians, many years late, billions over budget and still inoperable. The same applies to the new and also inoperable Finch LRT. Meanwhile the same obviously incompetent provincially owned contractor Metrolinx has started building the subway extension known as the Ontario line. This project is already over budget and expected to be years late. How do we get out of the circle of incompetence? Firing Premier Doug Ford at the next election would be a good place to start.
The British & French built th chunnel 50.46km under the English channel in only 6 years. The Eglinton LRT is shorter and has already taken twice as long. Someone needs to be fired, Metrolinx is a total waste.
I guarantee from the day Eglinton crosstown opens, within a few months it'll be suffering from overcrowding. The fact Sheppard will have a complete subway from Sheppard West to potentially Morningside, while Toronto's main east west midtown route will have a glorified streetcar is absolutely hilarious. This should have been a subway from day one. A city like Toronto can't rely on "LRTs"...yes the streetcars can be used as a feeder system, but Eglinton is going to prove LRTs simply can't work in a city like Toronto.
The problems with Eglinton aren't ending, they're only beginning.
pretty sure the narrator was 2 years old when they started building this thing.
when the narrator retire. The project will still be on going
This needs to hurry up and open.
Ok
It still hasn't opened? I thought it was opened 2 years ago?? Was there corruption?
man if Mike Harris didn’t let the construction of a tunnel at Eglinton West be filled in even if the line was cancelled, the Crosstown would’ve been a subway with these major grade separation and having smaller tunnels.
Funny that a store in Eglinton Square for wall designs for a subway stations that will never get built in Scarborough while also having served by almost three surface stops. That weird island in between O’Connor, Eglinton, and Victoria Park would’ve been a perfect bus interchange station
Kennedy’s looking great. also excited to see how eglinton west, and eglinton Yonge end up looking
TheRandcrews
You’re a Jackass
Line 5 will open when our grandkids have grandkids.
True!!!
The true start date of this mess was in the mid-90's when then-premier Harris cancelled the Eglinton subway - I remember driving around a series of holes that were already dug for that project which is really this project.
Jesus Christ, I remember when Mike Harris closed my elementary School decades ago. I can't believe we're still dealing with his bullshit.
@@XandateOfHeaven Thanks for that info - there's also the mess called Hwy. 407 - Harris basically gave it to the builder and that's why tolls are too high to get most drivers to use it instead of Hwy 401.
@@XandateOfHeaven @morganjo2002 Harris truly was the worst. 30 years later, we're STILL being negatively effected by his bullshit. Politics matters, people. Next to go must be slug ford.
@@morganjo2002 Harris truly was the worst.
@@EVIL-CAnd now he’s chairman of long term care homes.. shutting public options and super charging private care homes so that boomers won’t have any money to pass onto their kids.
So the plaza at Mt Dennis for the unopened line, is being ripped up, so that they can build the extension of an unopened line. You literally can't make this shit up...
You really can't.
But metrolinx can.
They took so long that they had created a better route in the time they wasted 😂😂😂😂 construction will never end in Ontario 😂😭
@@thefellows8484😂
Thanks for the update, Jamie. Another well done video. Line 5 looks solid, just frustrating it still isn't opened yet for people to use.
Shocking that no one will be held responsible for this mess
Doug Ford and his corruption team will make sure nobody gets touched or be held responsible for this for sure.
Great video! been waiting for an update for a while.
there has been signage going up announcing that the bus route changes for this line are taking effect soon, hopefully this indicates we're approaching that last 3 month window
Where did you see this
The notif dropped right as I was thinking of this 😂
A first metro line in HCMC, Vietnam has recently opened in late 2024. The metro has also faced numerous delays due to financing as construction began in 2012 but I'm very surprised that it was managed to be completed before this Eglinton crosstown LRT, despite constructing in 2011. The HCMC metro looks way nicer as the stations are more modern, consists platform screen doors, travels 20km/h faster and the fact it is less than 1/4 the construction cost of Eglinton crosstown is an absolute joke. Most of HCMC metro stations are elevated with some being underground. I don't know if I can call Eglinton crosstown a metro or subway, because it runs like existing streetcar in downtown Toronto. The only thing similar between those 2 railway lines is they're both similar in terms of length.
Clearly Canada is far wealthier than Vietnam. Why can't Toronto construct more metro lines that are elevated in the first place, as they're more efficient of traveling as faster speeds and handling more passengers compared to street cars. And the fact a city in a high income country constructs a construction project slower than a low income country is embarrassing to a whole other level.
Great, we can look forward to this extension opening in 2075.
Thanks for the video! Very detailed and comprehensive.
Unpopular opinion: The eastern surface portion of the line should probably be shut down at some point in the future if it proves too slow and rebuilt fully grade separated with some of the close stops being removed (IE: Hakimi-Lebovic).
Not unpopular, logical. The surface section in Scarborough could be as slow as Spadina streetcars. I just don't understand why the city REFUSES to give the TTC signal priority, when this section should be rapid and not running at turtle neck speed.
@@nanaokyere7141 Thanks. I used to ride the Eglinton bus on that portion, the bus was so slow and the new LRT will probably be nearly as slow as the bus. The people in that area deserve rapid transit.
This is embarrassing and disgraceful. Only in this country do you see this kind of rubbish planning and construction that what we call the third world is excelling at. Fantastic video you put together. Keep up this amazing work. Its better than what our 'experts' are capable of doing
"Corruption"
At the rate they're going, the Toronto Maple Leafs might win the Stanley Cup before this opens...
Now you're going too far.
Lol.
@@geofflepper3207 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Extremely informative and well done video!
Thank you for making this update video
Hey TT Great video. Soon Maybe soon it will be finished
Ive been waiting since i was born
Your video was informative and useful. Than you
this line started construction in year 2011. I'd be very happy if this rail start operating in year 2111.
We NEED to protest this line ASAP. No more delays or excuses. Also, when this line opens, they need to fire the CEO of Metrolinx, Phil Verster. We've been waiting 14 YEARS and in that same time span, his pay has gone up SIGNIFICANTLY. Ridiculous and insulting.
When is this blanking thing opening!
The project that never ends.
It just goes on and on my friend
All these 15 stations are near the finish line
By the way the only subway project that was completed on time and under budget was the Sheppard line… completed by TTC only.. no private contractors in charge.
When does the city expects to award the West Expansion? Is WestEx consortium the same group that is constructing the East portion?
Looking forward to my ashes being carried on the inaugural run!
You should check out the Finch west LRT
I don’t understand why on the surface the transit signal turns red before regular traffic light and does that mean partial TSP will just make it more or less the same frequency as the regular light
Quick summary: no progress yet but check with us in 5 years time. Thank you and have a great day.
Because of national and provincial security, the opening date of the first section of Line 5 is withheld, unless you have the needed security clearance.
Thank you very much Transitthinker. I’m really grateful for your videos.
Q: Any idea when construction will start on the the GO station at Caledonia? Is there a commitment to building it?
Currently I think the plan is to add a single platform soon, double tracking, and the second platform will happen later
What map are you using for the video? It looks cool with future line plans and wayfinding standards
Working on a more major future map of the Toronto area, used part of it for the video
Brother I pray that we are not waiting for the left extensions to open
will open just before the world ends
It's insane the time it's taking to build this thing. Montreal did 70 kilometers and double the station, and two-thirds are already in service. They started at the same time.
Shenzhen Metro subway system was built from the ground up from nothing in 1998 to almost 600 km of subway lines at the end of 2024. Its an embarrassment that it might take almost the same amount of time for only 30km of LRT at a much higher cost for this corrupt, stupid project.
Reminder that the Shenzhen Metro subway system was built from nothing in 1998 to opening its first subway lines in 2004 to now having almost 600 km of subway lines at the end of 2024 with plans to build even more.
Meanwhile if Metrolinx can finish the 30km Eglinton LRT east-west lines in under 30 years and under 20 billion, they'll pat themselves on the back for a job well done. How did Canada fall so far behind?!?!?
Ah 14 years and still not done
The Eglinton Crosstown Light Rail Transit Network has now taken over a decade to complete. Line 1 subway system which is longer was completed in only 8 years and is 8.3 km in length and its operational. Metrolinx is taking the city and the province for all it can get in money. Expect an increase in transit fares for the Greater Toronto Area.
I don't think you can confidently assert that the surface section of line 5 will be faster than the bus it's replacing. Finch West is now expected to be just as fast as the bus on that corridor was before construction started, of course with half as many stops, dedicated lanes, and signal priority, which are all lacking for the bus. And in general, surface trams have a pretty hard average speed limit of 19km/h, with very few systems exceeding that value
There is no accountability, and therefore no repercussions for the lack of transparency.
This project is a cash cow for some lucky people who aren't in any way incentivized to hasten the completion.
But, good lifetime employment for a lucky few! I expect that people who were apprentices when the project started will be able to retire from it, never having worked anywhere else!
I really hope the lack of transparency on metrolinx's side is just a one-time thing
Doug Ford ran an entire election campaign where none of the PC candidates were allowed to talk to the press or their constituents. He ran with no platform, no promises besides lowering the gas tax, and didn’t talk to anyone. I think the lack of transparency is here to stay.
It takes so many years to build a subway in a big city. So interesting😂
One thing that hasn’t changed is it still hasn’t opened after 5 years over its planned opening and the fact we have no clue why it hasn’t opened or when it will open.
Tracks are sinking at Yonge Stn
@ Can you provide a little more detail?
Could we just force the damn line to open??? Its more finished then line 1 and 2.
i thought they are retiring this now after 14 years in the making including testing LOL
Now scheduled to open in 2038
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They have been testing the trains for over a year now but nobody can ride them yet because that little piece of sidewalk 50ft away from the trains on the other side of the street needs to be dug up and rebuilt every couple of weeks. People just can't ride the train if that little piece of sidewalk is just not right
The narrator has the "Question Mark Explanation Syndrome"
Yes. The way she speaks is as if every sentence is a question.
Should have been completely underground and used trains, Torontos planners are country bumpkins with no idea what type of infrastructure is required🤦🏾♂️
GOOD RIDDENCE to Verster!! What an absolute EMBARRASSMENT! The fact that FORD said what he did about him----TRULY says a LOT about FORD!!
So this video only serves to taunt us with something that is still not open. Thanks.
Metrolink is trying to make history, avg building 2km per year completed.
Can’t at least part of it open? If the whole thing has to wait until all the stations are open, it will never open.
We Canadians are so naive when we criticize others' country on " corruption," "Africa countries, China, Vietnam, etc...
But at home, Canada here... we " harbor " all kinds of corruptions. This Ellington Cross town LRT and many more constructions are where the corruptions taken places, right in front of your eyes
Well lookit the size of the buildings and concrete . A little more of a modest train track coulda cost less and be built sooner .
Remember when they could build a railroad across the whole country in 5 years….And with mostly just humans and draft animals?
This crap is never opening.
Public money sitting there for years. By the time we use it its time to be renovated and updated. Open up at least some of the grass areas outside and sitting areas inside for the public that funded it.
This video shows a lot of bike lanes, which have become controversial lately. Doug Ford is getting rid of them. I think it is still too early to decide this. Covid-19 has changed transportation usage since about 2020. That's only four years ago -- not enough to evaluate long term effects.
The bike lanes on Eglinton didn’t affect car traffic because there hasn’t been any significant car traffic on Eglinton for 10 years. The Crosstown construction made it impractical for anyone to drive on Eglinton.
Also, the city plan was to move all car traffic onto a new adjacent road to the north.
The lasting embarrassment of Rob and Doug Ford. A real shame.
Some parts of phase 1 are already starting to look run down. It's so ridiculous. Don't we pay private companies like this SPECIFICALLY because they're supposed to have prior experience and avoid these kind of delays?
Why do I need to rely on intrepid UA-camrs for information on these projects and not the city?
Science Center stop needs to be renamed---- so we are looking at another 5 years for completion with an extra cost of $500M
Probably something Aboriginal.
NORTH AMERICA/CANADA, reason for “SLOWER BUILS, IS CORRUPTION!”
Also “NO CHARGES FOR DELAY OF COMPLETION!”
CHINA would have completed MANY-MANY KILOMETRES IN JUST A FEW MONTHS.
WHY?
The only difference that I see from this video and the last is the opening of two park connections, embarrassing.
This project is a complete embarrassment to all Torontonians, many years late, billions over budget and still inoperable. The same applies to the new and also inoperable Finch LRT. Meanwhile the same obviously incompetent provincially owned contractor Metrolinx has started building the subway extension known as the Ontario line. This project is already over budget and expected to be years late. How do we get out of the circle of incompetence? Firing Premier Doug Ford at the next election would be a good place to start.
15 years construction, absolutely pathetic, projects like this would have been completed in 2-3 years in Europe and Asia.
Good info but sounds like speaker has a mouthful of marbles
end of service life loll
The British & French built th chunnel 50.46km under the English channel in only 6 years.
The Eglinton LRT is shorter and has already taken twice as long.
Someone needs to be fired, Metrolinx is a total waste.
Toronto sucks.
Then leave.
What a joke. They built the entire Chunnel in 6.9 years
It will open when Canada joins the United States, which is never.
🚈👍
Biggest boondoggle in Toronto's history.
What a joke, hope people are getting FIRED after this?!
its a joke since 2011
28km of light fail
The whole western extension should be above ground.
People in Dougie riding would be pist hence the underground section in the west
toronto is a living hell
another joke that will never finish