DJI Osmo Action 5 Pro vs 4: Truth Behind the Hype

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  • Опубліковано 9 січ 2025

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  • @PatchedBandit
    @PatchedBandit  3 місяці тому +41

    This camera does not deserve the "pro" marker in my opinion for the following reasons:
    - Color profile is directed towards the 'average consumer' who only cares that the image is bright and colorful.
    - Bitrate on this camera is HALF the bitrate of the Osmo Action 4.
    - Promised "HDR" comes with processing not actual sensor dynamic range so it's misleading at best.
    - SuperNight footage is slightly better but oversharpened.
    Do I recommend this camera: No. Not with this current software. Buy the 4 if you agree and save some cash.
    I feel this is a mic drop moment as PetaPixel agrees with me on the 5 pro normal profile: ua-cam.com/video/n-eWOyk-800/v-deo.htmlsi=zP5JJoKBb4GAxY77&t=314
    ps. This is not me hating on DJI I have 4 DJI cameras and 2 drones myself. But this is a BAD direction they are taking and I truly hope they will step back and fix this trickery. At least give us some more options in settings.

    • @travisj2370
      @travisj2370 2 місяці тому

      you think a tinted lense cover on the 5 would be the game changer? like sun glasses for it

    • @simonwyndham
      @simonwyndham 2 місяці тому +5

      A few things. The bitrate isn't half. The bitrate will vary depending on what is happening on screen. If you examine any GoPro footage taken even in the high bitrate setting, it will often show as around 60Mbit/s. 120Mbit/s on the GoPro is the maximum (without the Labs firmware), but it isn't a constant bitrate for every recording. Same with the DJI Action 5. DJI actually only reduced the maximum to 100Mbit/s. But, now DJI has issued an update that adds a higher overall bitrate option (which has also tuned the SuperNight mode a bit better as well).
      You say that the colour profile is directed towards consumers. Not really true. The D-Log M mode in 10-bit is aimed at those who need to grade, and will be beyond most consumers. The new sensor *is* capable of more dynamic range, all of which can be accessed by using the D-Log M mode. The true HDR mode on it is HLG, which is an industry standard for displaying straight to HDR televisions and displays (it isn't designed for grading). What you are referring to in the video isn't really "HDR" so much as 'tone mapping', which is what all the action cameras are doing now. Tone mapping attempts to cram the higher dynamic range the sensor produces into something an SDR monitor can show without the need for grading, and the result is something that yes, does look a bit fake. But that's just the physics of trying to cram that dynamic range while keeping a saturated looking image into a ready to use SDR recording.
      The only way to record the full dynamic range without tone mapping is with Log mode, which needs grading, or with the HLG mode. I do think that it would be good if DJI offered the option to switch the tone mapping off. The HERO13's tone mapping is way harsher though, as is the Ace Pro! But, that's why I use D-Log M for all my shooting, because I want to be in control of the output. If you don't want to grade, you can still record in D-Log M and just apply the official DJI D-Log M LUT. Or, if you use the MIMO app, just apply the Log Recovery mode to your clips in the edit. The new 4nm processor makes a huge difference to battery life. Battery life is one of the main limiting factors with action cameras, and this changes the game totally. I test recorded 4K footage with ReelSteady turned on and I got 2hr 40 minutes or so of continuous recording, and the camera was only lukewarm to the touch.

    • @shantanusinghmertia7617
      @shantanusinghmertia7617 2 місяці тому

      You are right I also ordered action 5 but I canceled it and ordered action 4. I was very convinced for action 5 for night mode and 2 mic connectivity. Sorry for making comment section a discussion forum 😅

    • @atropicali
      @atropicali 2 місяці тому

      The colors is over saturated and over sharpened
      Really hate this outcomes from the action 5 and i will stop preordering

    • @ReinerRaditya
      @ReinerRaditya Місяць тому +1

      Hey man, im wondering wether you think the still photos are better on OA 4 or 5?
      Knowing that OA 4 is 10mp and 4k resolution, and OA 5 is 50mp with 8k res
      Do you mind sharing your experience?

  • @sergerasklad
    @sergerasklad 3 місяці тому +50

    0:46 The old 4 may seem darker, but it has a more cinematic look compared to the totally artificial look of the new 5.

    • @ARNABOSS
      @ARNABOSS 3 місяці тому +2

      it looks like CGI game graphics out of the OA5 😂😂

    • @babar69110
      @babar69110 29 днів тому

      yes and the octogonal sun is...something ;)

  • @venbeer
    @venbeer 2 місяці тому +41

    Every other sponsored reviewer just glorifies this overprocessed garbage and never even show action footage, just themselves walking along a footpath... thanks for this honest comparison

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  2 місяці тому +2

      Sadly most reviewers are sponsored and even those who say they are not still got the camera for free in many cases. To me this is still a sponsorship.
      I buy my own grear and If I get something as a freebie I always disclose it as a sponsorship.
      Its a sad affair how these things get so affected by money.

  • @TheLegendaryLore
    @TheLegendaryLore Місяць тому +6

    Thanks for sharing. The only noticeable improvement is somewhat better low-light video. I'll just get the Osmo Action 4.

  • @nrice3623
    @nrice3623 3 місяці тому +10

    Thanks for this comparison! Nicely put together video. I appreciate the pauses for your analysis and what to look at .

  • @8tavian999
    @8tavian999 Місяць тому +10

    Great video! I'm pretty sure most of the things you complained in this video can be sorted out by an firmware update. After using Drift Ghost S for almost a decade and had 2 crashes having the unlucky timing of battery dying a few minutes right before my accidents, I'm deffenetly choosing Osmo Action 5. I want to buy mine next week, OA4 is half the price of OA5 with adv combo pack but im still going for the latter for better battery life, and better low light performance.

    • @enigmab8978
      @enigmab8978 3 дні тому

      Where can you find the OA4 for half the price of OA5?

  • @EduGrigoletto
    @EduGrigoletto 28 днів тому +2

    Awesome comparison video! I'll keep my Osmo Action 4 for now. The best feature of the 5 is the dual mic sync. Thanks!

  • @ARNABOSS
    @ARNABOSS 3 місяці тому +44

    am i the only one who still likes the old rich dramatic yet truer to life look vis a vis the clean bright cartoon plastic world or high res game graphics look of the OA5pro? 😮😢

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  3 місяці тому +4

      OA4 doesn't need to be perfect to be more true to life compared to the new camera. Many reviewers also don't consider that a lot of people use the new and old camera in the same shoots. With the normal color profile this is not going to look very nice as the processing changes with camera angles SO MUCH.
      I need to start shooting in D-Log with all my dji cameras because the new one looks so different in the standard color profile.

    • @rollvideo
      @rollvideo 2 місяці тому +1

      Yes.

    • @babar69110
      @babar69110 29 днів тому +1

      it started with oversaturated pics on instagram... BTW people should go work with medium format and go make landscape pictures, to maybe realize too that it is very rare to have a crisp land far away . But it seems now that more and more are reacting about this cartoon rendering ... Maybe next step will be to put real lenses in these cams too

  • @ayamotoadventures
    @ayamotoadventures Місяць тому +4

    Regards from Croatia. Small fellow moto chanel here :). Finally someone with honest takes about the camera. It is really hard to find anything honest with so much sponosord reviews or the ones who are not sponsored but get everything free. From the first time I've seen the image on Action 5 I thought it was terrible.....too artificial, HDR look, with low bitrate and artifacts. I was amazed that no one did not mention that in the " reviews" . As a longtime user of DJI products for my professional work in photo and video ( gimbals, drones ) I can with 100% facts say that I always feel like a Beta tester with DJI products because they launch stuff with so many bugs and problems every time. It is a multi billion dollar company and they don't care at all. The good thing is that they fix and upgrade some of the stuff in the firmware updates, but you have to wait at least 5-6 months.
    I am planing to switch from GoPro for my moto volg so I am hoping that they will fix all the issues in the firmware. Cheers!

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  Місяць тому

      @@ayamotoadventures fully agree! The updates are nice and sometimes they listen to people complaining 😄
      I usually have just shot everything in normal color modes on dji cameras but the new cam forced me to switch to shooting d-log in all of them so I can get close to the same colors from all dji cameras I use.
      Its crazy how they cant get the colors even near the same after each release. Differences are insanely huge.

  • @hansendhl
    @hansendhl 3 місяці тому +6

    Thank you for the detailed and unbiased review. I fully agree that DJI is way, way, way overcooking the HDR look. The sharpness + overdone HDR processing make the footage look cheap

  • @harryhasbeard8666
    @harryhasbeard8666 3 місяці тому +19

    Dji has a better battery, better night filming, doesn't over heat /crash .Active tracking, under water pressure, plus depth reading 20m without a case . Gopro is a dying company look at the stock market.

    • @FlyFishingChronicles
      @FlyFishingChronicles Місяць тому

      Osmo has overheating problems too. And the better night filming is just software based and the stabilisation sucks.

    • @harryhasbeard8666
      @harryhasbeard8666 Місяць тому +4

      @FlyFishingChronicles it hit 38 c. Last week, I was filming all day, never overheated once with my oa5 the stabilisation is on point. Pretty sure you don't own a dji and have no idea.

  • @stephanematis
    @stephanematis 3 місяці тому +6

    The Osmo 5 night shots remind me of the tunings dashcams have been doing in the last few years. Same idea, they have the same sensor as before, but the newer cameras are pulling various tricks to increase edge detection, do better with colour picking and more. I would not be surprised if they have a tiny AI algo doing "sensor optimization".

  • @Rudy_MTB1
    @Rudy_MTB1 2 місяці тому +5

    The OA4 looks more natural and it all comes down to how someone would like to approach camera settings and post production. And most of the new products are so over hyped just to sell products every year. I feel tech upgrades should be done every 2 years especially with being able to do firmware upgrades through apps and the internet.

  • @DungarooTV
    @DungarooTV 14 днів тому +1

    This man speaks the truth and doesn’t shy away from it…I own both and can attest that although the Action 5 does bring đom minor upgrades, it’s not “leaps and bounds” which should have been in a whole new model change - very minor improvements as this man honestly outlined and I actually prefer the look of the stock video that comes out of the Action 4 - it looks more natural and less “HDR forced processed”!

  • @markhoughton5294
    @markhoughton5294 3 місяці тому +5

    Good to see an actual "in action" dual test of these cameras, rather than someone just walking and filming themselves talking. Thanks.

  • @phoenixgameflip
    @phoenixgameflip 12 годин тому

    After seeing this video I decided to go for the Osmo Action 4, just paid 150$ for a new one and now I can't wait to receive it

  • @habibifunk4223
    @habibifunk4223 5 днів тому

    Excellent real world tests. You say “not a camera channel” but you’ve put the cameras through more practical uses than spec heavy camera channels do. The difference in image quality is clearly software.

  • @innominatecitizen
    @innominatecitizen 18 днів тому

    This is refreshing to see an honest review about the newcomer! In vast majority of reviews of Action 5 Pro are saying the footage is better than Action 4 or others when even in their own videos, the "heavy-handed HDR" is clearly cartoonish and inferior.

  • @leftgawn
    @leftgawn 3 місяці тому +18

    Even without pixel peeping you can see that the details are better even in daylight on the 5 normal color mode or with the dji luts.

  • @officialnickname
    @officialnickname 7 днів тому +1

    I bought myself an Action 4 instead of a 5 after watching this video. Really happy with my purchase. The night capabilities are absolutely adequate especially when using DLOG-M, Manual mode and no night enhancement but denoise set to 0.
    And for 220€ you get a lot of camera fun and quality!

  • @Capt_Billy
    @Capt_Billy Місяць тому +2

    Every time I start thinking about upgrading to the 5 from my 4 I find videos like this to help me not do it. Although the 4 dropping audio on the Mic 2 is driving me nuts... I have to go back to using my boom mic on my 4 just to have a better video image.

    • @stephenwright-unity1
      @stephenwright-unity1 Місяць тому

      I've mot had th mic2 drop connection to my 4. Which is a comment that surprises me that the 5 support direct mic2 connection. So does the osmo 4..

  • @MrProPics
    @MrProPics Місяць тому +1

    thanks for the review! In my opinion, I like how the OA five looks, but I understand why many people like the OA four. The one thing that’s drawing me towards the five is that it has a longer battery life and the D log looks very good. I can probably fix that in post anyways. Thanks for the review and I’m glad you’re being honest about the camera.

  • @armybanana343
    @armybanana343 Місяць тому +1

    I don't know, After using the action 5 everythng looks like what you actually see in real life. With the new firmware update,everything seems to look better, including supernight. But I really appreciate your honest review!

  • @tsdmoto
    @tsdmoto 6 днів тому

    The only time I've preferred the A5P is when I'm backlit by the sun. I find the colors from the A4 more natural overall. The one think I DO love about the A5P is the ability to run two mics. I mic the motorcycle and my helmet and mix in post, that is nice.

  • @KimchimanInSeoul
    @KimchimanInSeoul Місяць тому +1

    I actually have always been thinking that action four is better and you've just proved it. Thank you very much.

  • @kaiyomarine9474
    @kaiyomarine9474 Місяць тому +1

    Question!!! I never have a sportcam and been wanting to get one since a very long time. The only sport cam in my mind was the gopro but the seller in shop introduce me to dji and I'm interested with the brand. So the real question is. For my first action cam. Should I go for dji action 4 or the 5 pro? Also I don't want to spend too much. I'm also a mirrorless camera user and appreciate photography/videography.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  Місяць тому +1

      Absolutely would advice looking at the 4 or even 3 if you are just looking to start. Both can be complemented with wired microphones and 4 supports even the new wireless ones from DJI if you want to 'up the game'.
      5 pro doesn't really provide much other than a hiehger pricetag.
      Even if you start doing videos more 'professionally' you probably need a second camera anyway. I still use all three action 3, action 4 and action 5 pro on most riding shots I film.

  • @kalinovsky9444
    @kalinovsky9444 Місяць тому

    Great video, man. At last somebody showed everything that i wanted to see) Thank you!

  • @Ftlauderdale37
    @Ftlauderdale37 29 днів тому +3

    Bought an action5 , hated the overdone always on HDR look, returned the action 5 and bought an action 4 (!) much better video quality on the action 4 compared to the action 5. Happy now - will see what next year brings with DJI.

    • @OLC_Fishing
      @OLC_Fishing 28 днів тому

      You think a4 is best in low light ? I have a gopro 9 and is not good for dark videos.. I need one w good low light minimum noise for fishing early morning or sunset

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  28 днів тому

      Dji pocket 3 is excellent in low light. If you can deal with the minimal water resistance and the fact that you cant be rough with it that would be my pick.

    • @OLC_Fishing
      @OLC_Fishing 28 днів тому

      @@PatchedBandit I fish and go on wading trips.. so id need a water resistant camera in case I drop it or splash water on it.. what would be my next option?

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  28 днів тому

      @@OLC_Fishing As low light is important to you I would probably lean you towards the Action 5 Pro. It is going to deliver some better software tools for low light videos like the supernight mode.

    • @OLC_Fishing
      @OLC_Fishing 28 днів тому

      @@PatchedBandit thank you for your input ill do some research before hitting the purchase button. Do you know if dji mini mic is a good at recording voice as the dji mic 2? Its cheaper than the mic 2 so if it is.. I may just add the mini on the cart as well

  • @djviseras
    @djviseras 3 дні тому

    Very nice and useful comparative. Thanks!

  • @motorcycleadventures
    @motorcycleadventures 3 місяці тому +1

    Very useful information, thank you Ismo!

  • @LiftNrun8
    @LiftNrun8 6 днів тому

    Great video, i am upgrading from action 2 to 5 pro mainly for low light performance because the cold and dark finnish winter😉

  • @itsmattyboom
    @itsmattyboom 25 днів тому

    You can use the DJI mic2 with the action 4, direct bluetooth connection, no receiver necessary, so that's not a reason to upgrade. I vlog with the pocket, and just bought an osmo 4 for so I have a waterproof cam when I'm vlogging at the beach or at a pool party - not really typical ACTION shots. But I came to the same conclusion as you, the 5 is not enough of a difference to justify basically double the price. I paid $209 for the 4 as of December 2024. Great comparison! I don't know that I would have noticed the "fakeness" of the HDR without you pointing it out so thanks for that.

  • @ap-sj5pe
    @ap-sj5pe 3 місяці тому +1

    Many thanks for this very well made comparison and analysis!! 🤝

  • @ReinerRaditya
    @ReinerRaditya Місяць тому +2

    Hey man, im wondering wether you think the still photos are better on OA 4 or 5?
    Knowing that OA 4 is 10mp and 4k resolution, and OA 5 is 50mp with 8k res
    Do you mind sharing your experience?

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  Місяць тому

      There are some important caveats though. 50MP on a Quad Bayer sensor is not the same as 50 MP on a Bayer sensor. The difference in detail you will see between 10MP and 50MP is relatively minor (nowhere near what that same MP difference would look like on a traditional Bayer sensor), and you might even prefer the overall look of the 10MP files.
      This being said I never take still pictures with my actioncameras so I can't attest to either being better than the other. I wouldn't recommend either one for still photos as most phones will likely take better pictures.

    • @ReinerRaditya
      @ReinerRaditya Місяць тому

      @PatchedBandit thankyou for the response man, appreciate it!

  • @281vlogs
    @281vlogs Місяць тому

    Thanks for the honest comparison between these two. I have OA4 for less than a year and I almost sold it to buy the OA5pro but I really do have a feeling that it may not be worth it and this video sealed it. So, I guess I will just get the mic mini and ditch the mic 2. Ride safe bro!

  • @audio.paisajes
    @audio.paisajes Місяць тому

    Thanks for your honest review! Greetings from Argentina ✌

  • @sarcasticfpv
    @sarcasticfpv 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for this honest review! For me the dlog m part was the most interesting one. In the first shots it was really like 90% the same only maybe at 7:32 the part around the sun is even correctly exposed on the new cam but that's pretty much it lol
    Could you record some bits with fixed settings? I mean like 180degree shutter rule, ND filter and then both at the same iso in different scenes if one then can count with more DR? I guess it will be basically the same miniscule but still I'd be interested.
    Other than that another disappointing year then. Still rocking the GoPro 11 and don't have a feeling that there hasn't been real progress after that one

  • @gogetoutsidepodcast
    @gogetoutsidepodcast 3 місяці тому +7

    Thank you for this. It's a relief to see that D-Log disables the super artificial enhancements added in normal mode. I consider the normal mode look unusable. D-Log looks great though.

  • @juka.parfum
    @juka.parfum Місяць тому +1

    Hi, how do you solve wind noise? There is only a little wind while riding. What is your clear sound system?

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  Місяць тому +2

      2 years of trial and error 😅 Movo ACM400 mic for helmet audio is a big help

  • @stephenwright-unity1
    @stephenwright-unity1 Місяць тому

    As another post raised. You can also use a mic2 directly with the osmo 4, you dont need the reciever either so both are equal as i see it here.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  Місяць тому +1

      One difference is the 5 pro supports 2 mics at the same time.

  • @Brandall66
    @Brandall66 Місяць тому

    Good comparison. Especially highlighting specifics on certain scenes for comparison. I wish more people would do that. However I find the 5 pro seems sharper and has a more pleasing image. But if I owned the 4, I see no reason to upgrade.

  • @silver244
    @silver244 3 місяці тому +19

    Still rocking the osmo 3 . Good enough for now.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  3 місяці тому +8

      Video quality out of the 3 is in many ways better than either one of the newest cameras. I prefer the normal mode colors on the 3 to even the 4 and definitely to the 5 pro.
      I still use my OA 3 on a weekly basis ✌️ Great camera but the wireless mic support has steered me to use the newer ones as my main camera.

    • @glasgowharleyrider
      @glasgowharleyrider 3 місяці тому +1

      A motovlogger here in Scotland and still on my OA3 as it stands. I really expected the 5 to blow me away , for what it has overall I may eventually get it or a 4 as I love the Osmo range , having had original and the 3. Time will tell. Thanks for this comparison. RSMF

    • @troletti
      @troletti 3 місяці тому

      I agree there’s issues living up to the marketing. DJI achieved a few significant improvements in the OA4 with firmware updates, the OA5 should improve overtime. I had issues with the OA4 maintaining a level horizon when rigged to a motor vehicle. I’d love to see a stabilization comparison of the two cameras.

    • @cornelgr
      @cornelgr 2 місяці тому

      @@PatchedBanditIsn’t the osmo 3 suposed to be wireless mic ready? And how is your experience with ND-filters since many people talk about the strange blurry effects, looking to buy a second hand cheap action 3. Thank you

    • @Koensol
      @Koensol Місяць тому

      ​@@cornelgr Osmo action 3 works with the dj wireless mics, but not without a receiver. This is where the 4 and 5 are different, which connect the transmitter directly to the camera through blue tooth. Downside of needing a receiver attached to the camera is losing the waterproof qualities.

  • @maxsteal1982
    @maxsteal1982 3 місяці тому +1

    @PatchedBandit great video, I really appreciate it when content creators take the time to make unbiased and indepth videos. I understand that these videos takes more time, effort and skill to create but the results are worth it. Keep up the good work.
    I am both Insta360 and DJI user (more so DJI), I can't wait for your Insta360 Pro2 vs the rest video.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  3 місяці тому

      Thanks. For obvious reasons these camera brands don't send me any free stuff so that video might never come 😅
      3 actioncams on the regular use is enough for now.. my budjet can't take any more hits like this 😂✌️

  • @CoastersTravels
    @CoastersTravels Місяць тому

    I upgraded from the action 1 to the action 4 recently, and based off the footage, I'm glad I did! Honestly, the action 4 didn't do too bad against the 5, especially in the d-log mode. Night footage didn't look bad on the 4 as well. I was actually shocked to see nighttime footage only marginally better on the 5. I think I made the better choice.

  • @BartvanderHorst
    @BartvanderHorst 2 місяці тому +1

    Upgraded from the action 3. no complaining here, love the 10 bit, I also love the hdr look in auto, and I can switch it off whenever I want.... I think the action 4 was a mistake.

  • @PatchedBandit
    @PatchedBandit  3 місяці тому +3

    Most of my shoots are multi camera shoots with OA 3, OA 4, OA 5 pro and pocket 3.
    Because there is such a HUGE difference between rendering the normal color modes on the new camera I need to start shooting D-Log M on all of my cameras.
    Every other DJI product before this has been rendering the scene very naturally in the normal profile but that has changed with the new release.

    • @shantanusinghmertia7617
      @shantanusinghmertia7617 3 місяці тому +2

      @@PatchedBandit yeah HDR feels too overdone in some scenes

    • @shantanusinghmertia7617
      @shantanusinghmertia7617 3 місяці тому +1

      @@PatchedBandit but D-log M with dJi lut looks promising

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  3 місяці тому

      With D-Log both look great. As the OA5 standard profile is so overdone I need to revert to shooting in D-Log with all my cameras to get similar results with all my camera angles.
      Not a big deal but before the OA5pro I didn't need to do this as other DJI products look very good with the normal profile.

    • @shantanusinghmertia7617
      @shantanusinghmertia7617 3 місяці тому

      @@PatchedBandit yeah I understand but as for my first action camera what you say shall I go for this ?

    • @oceanadex
      @oceanadex 3 місяці тому

      @@shantanusinghmertia7617 wait for the new firmware to fix major issues and then revisit.

  • @alejoleonm
    @alejoleonm Місяць тому

    A very honest review, thank you very much.

  • @TRC-Reiskeks
    @TRC-Reiskeks Місяць тому

    I am very thankful for this video. I already wanted to get a DJI OA4 but still decided to wait for the OA5P to drop.
    I currently have a Hero 7 and I've had enough...I need a reliable cam with good quality.
    My friend got the new one and was very pleased by the new one. I still was sceptical but you actually gave me the exact answer to my concerns. Thank you for that.
    I really like the fact, that you can use your old and new peripherals for each cam. The Batteries in the new one are no Joke
    Thx Mate :)

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  Місяць тому

      All DJI products are highly reliable. This is why all my cameras are DJI.

  • @YojimboH
    @YojimboH 27 днів тому

    It is quite interesting that in your review, the Action 4 seems a bit more mushier than the 5 when the 4 has a higher bitrate. But in almost every other review the Action 4 is more crisp.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  27 днів тому

      Everything you see here is straight out of the camera.

    • @YojimboH
      @YojimboH 27 днів тому

      @@PatchedBandit seems like a bit more investigation is needed, specially when Action 4 is half price of Action 5 atm in my country :)

  • @mat-ventures
    @mat-ventures 3 місяці тому

    Very interesting comparison! I loved when you showed the HDR Lut on the osmo 4 side. Thanks for the honest review

  • @MainJet158
    @MainJet158 26 днів тому

    I have both cameras and I still like the A4 better. I can get a good image with the A5 but it's a lot more work. The normal color profile of the A4 in daytime filming gives a great image. The low light performance is of little interest to me but the A4 is still pretty good in low light so I'm fine with it. The price of the A4 is about $209 dollars so I'm thinking of getting a second one as a backup or for dual camera videos. Even with all the firmware updates for the A5 the HDR problem has not been fixed and that is really disappointing.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  26 днів тому

      Same. I would have rather had a second 4 as well and keep shooting in normal color profiles for easy editing.

  • @RoiaMoto
    @RoiaMoto 3 місяці тому +1

    Nice video.
    I’m sticking with my OA4 for now. Funny how the other reviews praise the new camera so much.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  3 місяці тому

      Good choice! 😁

    • @EternalArrow
      @EternalArrow 3 місяці тому

      Yeah, same. Wanted to switch from 4 to 5, but dont want to anymore. 5 is sharper, but the image looks way overprocessed. And in log almost no difference. Gonna wait for 6 or 7.

    • @LedZippo99
      @LedZippo99 2 місяці тому

      Not to be unexpected..... Most of the camera review sites are bought and paid for

  • @TheRetiredTravelers
    @TheRetiredTravelers Місяць тому

    Thanks for the review and the footage. I think they are both great cameras but the one mic connectivity on the 4 is the deal breaker for us since we vlog together about 90 percent of the time.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  Місяць тому +1

      Dual mic is a very good reason to pick the newer one. Pocket 3 is even better for vlogging though in my opinion as the footage looks better in all lighting situations but especially at night. Also due to the mechanical gimbal stabilization also works at night which is debatable with these actioncameras.

  • @aaronmelson2887
    @aaronmelson2887 13 днів тому

    I had the action 3 and upgraded to the 5 pro and it was a worth while upgrade for me.

  • @JvD1985
    @JvD1985 2 місяці тому +1

    my action5 pro is getting very hot after recording (4k/60fps)
    tips tricks how to solve this? cause I thought this was only a issue from GoPro?!

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  2 місяці тому +1

      - Record in lower FPS
      - Lower Resolution
      - Or low bitrate mode
      Probably the only things that work unfortunately. Haven't had this issue when I'm riding but you are probably recording indoors and the camera is stationary? Or just in hot climate?

  • @CharlieVN
    @CharlieVN 3 місяці тому +5

    I don’t think you can simply process it to match, especially super night mode. In testing the cameras now, and it’s pretty clear that the action 5 does beat out the 4 handily in low light, like easily, but there are some quirks.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  3 місяці тому +1

      At Night its a bit better for sure.

  • @tubelesschannel
    @tubelesschannel 24 дні тому

    Thanks, just bought the Action 4 on sale. One wireless mic should be enough for me... (bought the DJI Mic Mini as well, only one TX :-)

  • @a.c.4811
    @a.c.4811 Місяць тому

    Looking for an action camera to shoot video from inside a race car in low light (night races). On a budget but want good quality. Even with the poor firmware updates, would the 5 Pro still be better than the 4 in low light? Or should I save the money and get the 4?

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  Місяць тому +1

      In some extreme dynamic range requirement situations like yours the image "authenticity" might not be the most important thing and in this situation the 5 pro with even with the exaggerated hdr processing might be worth the extra money.
      If you go with the 4 I would shoot in d-Log and process the image to suit your needs in the edit.
      With d-log and manually creating the scene in the edit you are probably going to get very good results with both but if you don't want to do that the 5 pro is most likely the better pick in your particular use case.

  • @Steve-yu6pq
    @Steve-yu6pq 3 місяці тому +2

    Coming from an action 1 so appreciate your advice!

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  3 місяці тому

      Happy to help!

    • @nrice3623
      @nrice3623 3 місяці тому +2

      Same here! I’m still undecided lol

  • @enduromotorradtouren
    @enduromotorradtouren 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for your conclusive test. I'm still very happy with the Osmo Action 3 you recommended. Back from Northeast Italy on the CRF. Nice little bike as you perfectly know. All the best, Günter/Nürnberg

  • @xLaSoMBrAx
    @xLaSoMBrAx 2 місяці тому

    Very good review. Best so far.

  • @lvc394
    @lvc394 16 днів тому

    I like the view of the 5 better than the 4. The 4 seem to be blown out when facing the sun and was not as good at night. I also like that the battery last longer and the 5 has built in memory. If I had a 4 I would not upgrade but if you are buying new and I had to pick between the 4 and the 5, it would be the 5 all day everyday.

  • @BulletNG
    @BulletNG Місяць тому +1

    tbh, you convinced me to get the OA 5

  • @MrDieseldog
    @MrDieseldog Місяць тому +1

    Great video and comparison thank you for the video.I am in the hunt for either one of these and I am certainly leaning toward the 4 after watching this....I am not a pro by any means, but I do know what I like and and the 4 in my vision just looks more natural and I like the warmer colors. Sure there were parts that the 5 looked a little better but I am just a regular fella who like's to shoot stuff and the 4 it is for me.Paying the extra for a 5 certainly for me anyway would be a waste of money, plus I'm into bikes as well and really liked the very knowledgeable, straight talking and in-depth way everything was explained.....Sub'ed and thanks again.

  • @JanL.-eo8xm
    @JanL.-eo8xm 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for your really good review. Do you think they will be able to fix the color problem of the 5 with a firmware update?

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  2 місяці тому +2

      They easily could give us a separate hdr switch but as of now they have not

  • @seb-depp
    @seb-depp Місяць тому

    Funnily I very much prefer the 4's night modes as I really don't like the noisiness in normal mode and either the strong blurring on the super night mode.
    Great vid - comes at the right time as I try to decide on 4 or 5 as an addition to the GoPro that shuts off...

  • @YAJORDO
    @YAJORDO 3 місяці тому

    great review u just helped me save money

  • @fun-ghi
    @fun-ghi Місяць тому

    It's like using "Filmmaker Mode" on your TV compared to "Standard Mode". Some won't never understand.

  • @welovedji1116
    @welovedji1116 14 днів тому

    MEANWHILE I still make videos with the Orginal Osmo Action 1 haha, got 2 of them and shoots only 1080p 30fps. They sells for only 80-120$ now, great cameras!
    I do pairing it with the Dji Pocket 2 for buttery smooth cinematic shots.
    I wont upgrade until Dji make an action camera with 1inch sensor

  • @keith2599
    @keith2599 2 місяці тому

    Loved the video tests dude.... Brilliant Video in fact.... Happy Days....from the uk😊

  • @Dav0691
    @Dav0691 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for the video! Im looking for my first action cam to use on motorcycle and your video helped me a lot. After action 5 pro release we can find cheap action 4 adventure combo, higher dynamic range is only postprocesing trick so its not worth to pay extra 150 euro for slightly bigger battery and screen.

  • @jyk4
    @jyk4 Місяць тому

    I am planning to buy a filter to osmo action 5 (what I don't have yet). If the original lens cover is removed, is the camera still waterproof? Or does the lens cover do the waterproofing? I am afraid of the filter leaking

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  Місяць тому

      If you buy the dji ND filters the lens cover dont need to be removed

  • @theodavies8754
    @theodavies8754 2 місяці тому

    Good call.
    It's looking like a video game,when we went from analogue music to digital some people didn't like it and still don't.

  • @snapshor1
    @snapshor1 3 місяці тому

    Hey Can U Share that HDR lut u used in your video at 2:36 ,Or can u name if is it available online or link ?

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  3 місяці тому

      I made quick adjustments manually in fcp so there is no file.

  • @SoulAnchored21
    @SoulAnchored21 7 днів тому

    Hi! Great review! I have the OA3 but got water damage. I was thinking of replacing it with the same OA3 given I was happy with it and its a great price right now.
    Would you recommend that considering its a much older model or should i update to 4 or 5? I primarily use it for travel several times a year and snorkeling. Thats about it. Basic user for now. Thanks for any insight.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  7 днів тому +1

      Wireless mic support with 4 and 5 pro is a pretty nice addition but other than that 3 is still a very good camera. I have all 3 and still use all of them.

  • @davidpoo66
    @davidpoo66 2 місяці тому

    Do you think future firmware updates to eliminate these issues you experienced?😮 Thx!

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  2 місяці тому

      I need to try the new firmware but I doubt they fix the unnatural normal mode.

    • @davidpoo66
      @davidpoo66 2 місяці тому

      @PatchedBandit Thanks!

  • @LSCModels
    @LSCModels 2 місяці тому

    Maybe a software update can enhance some minor issues with the Action 5 camera. Great video sir.

  • @NikoNatur
    @NikoNatur 16 днів тому

    Hey Sir, could you make another Video if there are any improvements made to the software?

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  16 днів тому +1

      As far as I know nothing has changed since so not worth it. For now.

  • @alwhitney-muskoka
    @alwhitney-muskoka Місяць тому

    Coming from the 4, the 5 is a nice upgrade for me. Love this camera.

  • @meraxe5
    @meraxe5 3 місяці тому

    im new to the action camera arena, so def grabbing the OA5P, thanks for the video.

  • @UncleLongbeard
    @UncleLongbeard Місяць тому

    Actually the image from osmo 4 is much more natural and pleasing all the time including night mode. What did they improve in the wireless mic side?

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  Місяць тому

      5 pro supports 2 mics at the same time instead of only 1 on the action 4.

    • @UncleLongbeard
      @UncleLongbeard Місяць тому

      @@PatchedBandit that's really cool, thx

  • @JoATTech
    @JoATTech 3 місяці тому +2

    Some shots are better on Action 4 some on Action 5. It's at tie in terms of image quality and looks.
    But battery life is much better in A5 and ability to connect 2 mics might be a winning factor.
    But upgrading from 4 ... not sure, unless someone needs 2 mics.
    I got 5 personally, but haven't got any action cameras.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  3 місяці тому

      The new 1950 mAh batteries work on the 4 too

    • @JoATTech
      @JoATTech 3 місяці тому +1

      @@PatchedBandit Yes, but most of the longer record time comes from better efficiency of the new camera elements. Probably mostly 4nm chips. Together with a new battery this gives a significant difference.
      Although it's not that A4 records for 30 minutes :D. But I haven't seen good deals on A4 adventure combo yet, just 10% off tops :(.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  3 місяці тому +1

      10% bigger battery is not nothing though but yes the new camera can be more power efficient too. Maybe partly also due to the new screen technology.
      Haven't seen a comparison on battery life with both cameras using the same bigger battery. Maybe I will try that later.

  • @SnoringVids
    @SnoringVids Місяць тому

    Liked and subscribed! Finally someone not bending over for a DJI sponsorship! Gonna go buy one now.

  • @Pipi-gi5bg
    @Pipi-gi5bg 23 дні тому

    This is my first time will buy camera. I want to use it to shoot diving footage. Action4 or acrtion5 pro,Which one is suitable for scubadiving?

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  22 дні тому

      OA 5 pro: 20 m (without Waterproof Case), 60 m (with Waterproof Case)
      OA 4: 18 m (without case), 60 m (with case)
      So if you do some deep water diving both will need the separately sold case.

  • @MPOrienteering
    @MPOrienteering 2 місяці тому

    Good tests. I had no action cam so I went straight with Action5. I am happy with the battery endurance as I need it during my long runs. I would prefer more stable exposure though. The sky changes almost every step. Maybe some parameters can be changed to compensate for that.

  • @looks-fq2gq
    @looks-fq2gq 3 місяці тому +1

    10:03 the only thing that bothers me is the weird cone shape lens flare they produce from either the street lights or the sun on both the action 4 and 5.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  3 місяці тому

      Yep. They tend to have some ugly reflections for sure 😅

  • @M.C.A.T.
    @M.C.A.T. 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for this video! All the info I really wanted. I have been considering the DJI to replace my GoPro 12 for low light issues, but honestly in every video I have seen comparing the GoPro and the Osmo (or the Insta cameras) the GoPro is better colour hands down. As you say, the heavy handed HDR from the Osmo is terrible. It murders skin tones - and pretty much any mid range colours. I also have observed that the Osmo is always red shifted. But, I was heartened to see that using the Log mode can deal with that issue. Now that I have watched this video, I think I will get an Osmo 4 because I don't see a advantage worth the price for the 5 and the mid range tones are clearly better on the 4.

  • @arjendugardijn
    @arjendugardijn Місяць тому

    I just bought the 4 for 219 euro. the 5 pro costs 379 euro and is not worth the big difference. My old Yi 4k+ is used for the rough work! Thanks for the advise!

  • @P4JJP
    @P4JJP 2 місяці тому +1

    Nice video . Did you say the new action 5 pro can support dual DJI mic 2s wirelessly?

  • @RAMKI_AR
    @RAMKI_AR 2 місяці тому

    please suggest to me dji action 5 pro or dji osmo pocket 3

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  2 місяці тому +1

      For vlogging and general use camera nothing beats the pocket 3.
      For action and/or if you need a waterproof camera take the action 5.
      Very generic answer but I dont know your use case so hard to say in much more detail.

    • @RAMKI_AR
      @RAMKI_AR 2 місяці тому

      @@PatchedBandit thanks bro

  • @RasikaFernando
    @RasikaFernando 2 місяці тому +1

    Can you do a comparison with Ace Pro 2

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  2 місяці тому +1

      Sadly I don't have access to that camera

  • @redarndiculous
    @redarndiculous Місяць тому

    I prefer the look of the 4 during the day time, only reason I'd want the 5 is for night time shooting which I really enjoy doing. Makes it a tough choice for me

    • @Koensol
      @Koensol Місяць тому

      Why not buy the pocket 3 for night time shooting? Its way better at it than action cams.

    • @redarndiculous
      @redarndiculous Місяць тому

      @@Koensol Because I didn't know? Lol thanks for the tip

    • @Koensol
      @Koensol Місяць тому

      @@redarndiculous No problem. The pocket 3 has a larger sensor which allows for more light to be captured. It also has a gimbal which helps with stabilizing the camera in low light. Just remember the camera is not an action cam. Its fragile and not waterproof.

    • @redarndiculous
      @redarndiculous Місяць тому

      @@Koensol Yeah It didn't come up when I searched action cams with a 1 inch sensor...probably because it's not an action cam.

  • @Homo_neanderthal
    @Homo_neanderthal 2 місяці тому +1

    What camera do you recommend if i don't have any action cameras? I can't decide between action 4 and 5 pro.

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  2 місяці тому

      Only reason I see to pay more for the 5 pro is if you need dual mics.
      4 = Single Wireless mic support
      5 pro = Dual Wireless mic support
      Bigger batteries on the 5 pro but the new battery works with the older 3 and 4 cameras too so that's not really a good reason either.
      5 pro promised battery life also happens only if you are in low bitrate 1080p mode.. this is not even an option on the 4 as it's always in the high bitrate mode which explains a lot of the battery life difference.

  • @ivanfranceschin
    @ivanfranceschin Місяць тому

    the improvement at 7:28 is very noticeable
    a very noticeable improvement in the most important aspect of a camera, the dinamic range

  • @jualmad21
    @jualmad21 2 місяці тому

    Excellent review. Almost got the 5 you just saved me $110. Thank you.

  • @kir11
    @kir11 3 місяці тому +1

    Nice compare! And there is no way to tweak amount of the HDR effect in the normal color in the OA5? So bad and unnatural look, when HDR is boosted on "all money".

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  3 місяці тому

      Not at the moment. I hope DJI will add one.

  • @asmoth360
    @asmoth360 3 місяці тому

    Great video, thank you!
    The supernight mode apparently brings back the noise reduction AND the sharpness setting, which I don't like, the exagerated edges dont look natural in my opinion.
    In the end I prefer the OA4 in most of the shots, even if we lose some highlights and shadows, overall it just looks more natural.

  • @andreasmorawetz5858
    @andreasmorawetz5858 Місяць тому

    Thank you man. This is really helpful for me. Have you also the possibility to compare the gopro to the Action 5 in the same way?

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  Місяць тому

      Probably not as I'm not a camera channel and I need to buy these with my own money 😅 I abandoned Gopro a long time ago because the cameras just werent stable. I cant have my cameras bug out on shoots. What DJI offers is insane stability on the software side and this is why I have 6 DJI cameras already. Never lost a single file with DJI.

  • @Manvlogs-wr9it
    @Manvlogs-wr9it 6 днів тому

    Can i use both DJI 4 and 5 to edit my motovlogs on iphone 13?

    • @PatchedBandit
      @PatchedBandit  6 днів тому +1

      I used to edit my videos with this app called Lumafusion on IOS so with that you can. But I have never used the DJI mobile app to edit anything.

    • @Manvlogs-wr9it
      @Manvlogs-wr9it 6 днів тому

      @PatchedBandit Thanks for reply 👍

  • @WojnarskiWeldingFabricaion
    @WojnarskiWeldingFabricaion 2 місяці тому

    The main thing I like on the 5 vs 4 is low light if you saw some of my latest videos it was filmed on the action 4 in a low light or poor lighting shop. I tried a couple cameras out over the last year and the 4 was the best sound with the microphone with noise cancellation which I really needed but probably the middle with low light which I kinda don’t like it’s a shame my action 4 is only like 5 months old but the 5 is looking good. Wonder if I can edit lighting on my 4 to make my low light videos look better thanks for the video 👍