One Marvelous Scene - "Everyone Deserves a Shot at Redemption " (No Spoilers Here!)
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- Опубліковано 22 кві 2019
- Nando v Movies has brought together a ton of great UA-camrs who are making videos about their favorite scenes in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. This is our addition to that, this scene from Antman that not only gives us a glimpse of the future of the MCU, but what it takes to be a hero in this universe.
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What is your favorite scene in the MCU?
Who should we highlight next in the Marvel 101 series?
The difficulty of getting clips to use may pose an issue, but I would love to explore the themes of identity and self in Captain Marvel, especially thanks to the scene "We made you. Vers." "My name...is Carol." That scene resonated with me in a huge way.
Hey great video! I have a question what is the background music called it's teally beautiful
"It's not about saving our world, it's about saving theirs" -Hank Pym
This has Stan Lee written all over it and is the reason why so many people loved Marvel over other comics. I grew up loving Batman, and I still do, but my connection with almost every Marvel hero runs deeper than my 9 year old love for Batman. -Josh
endgame spoilers(?) but it really breaks my heart, that all scott wanted was to just be with his daughter and not miss any more of her growing up by going to jail again... and then he gets trapped in the quantum realm for most of her childhood and misses it completely
I'm glad someone finally talked about Ant-Man. The two Ant-Man movies are a huge delight for me, and I rank them both pretty high in the MCU. They're not only some of the funniest and most charming movies in the MCU, but are full of really strong characters and interesting dynamics. We don't get positive single fathers in fiction very often, and we get divorcees actually being nice to each other and still caring for one another even less, so I'm glad the Ant-Man movies can provide that for people. Plus Paul Rudd is just an absolute bright spot, and is so well casted.
I see you're a person of culture as well.
Amen! I think that’s why I was drawn to the MCU particularly the Ant Man films
Yes exactly
I think it's worth noting that Hank Pym in the comics has made *terrible* mistakes in the name of his own ego that he's in a perpetual struggle to escape from. In a way, in this moment he's not just asking Scott if he thinks a person deserves a shot at redemption... he's also asking the comic-reading audience.
The films are not the comics, and I think that slavish servitude to them is as much a mistake as disregarding them completely, but regardless these characters have baggage. There are moments that define Superman and Batman to paint them as heroes... and that moment for Hank was a series of mistakes that turned the whole world against him. He's asking "Let me, Hank Pym, have another chance to make up for the things I've done."
I'm not as familiar with the comics. I've read a few but was never an avid reader of any Ant-Man stuff. I think this is definitely worth noting and Michael Douglas acts as if he has made some terrible mistakes. I feel like his portrayal goes underrated but when you look back he is fantastic! -Josh
YES!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!! Finally someone on this playlist talks about Ant-man!
It’s in my top 5 MCU films and if I could be any hero, the ability to grow and shrink is pretty awesome! -Josh
Excellent analysis! I think too often the Antman films get written off without taking the time to appreciate the good things about its characters. You sir, just took the time and it was well worth. Sub earned.
I definitely agree with you. Ant-Man feels like a B character among A characters but I think that his worth will be proven in Endgame. (Haven't seen it yet so I am hoping.) Also outside of Scott Lang, Hank, and Hope, who are wonderful heroes you have Luis who might just be the funniest of any character in the MCU. -Josh
Honestly one of my favorite MCU films. I really like how you go into detail regarding Hank Pym and the analogies and symbolism he represents in the films.
Thank you! I had fun putting this one together, especially since I felt nobody else would talk about Ant-Man or Hank Pym. -Josh
Just got my like and subscription in advance for bringing Antman into the spotlight. Very underrated character. Paul Rudd's work with him is incredible. Thanks for that. Now I'll continue watching!
Thanks for checking out the video, liking, and subscribing! Antman is totally underrated and I'm sure we will all leave Endgame (haven't seen it yet) thinking more of him. Thats my hope.....but I love all of these characters. -Josh
This video was much better with the background music it’s strong and expiring so good taste and great job
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Hank didn't pass on his company to Darren Cross. Cross betrayed him and convinced the other chair members to vote him out, Hope was the deciding vote to kick Hank out of his company. Cross wanted to pursue the Ant-Man suit and Pym Particle technology and Hank prevented that every step of the way, so Darren got rid of him. That's why the betrayal hurts so bad, he literally lost his whole company to his protege and Hank knew it was a matter of time before Darren found out how to harness Pym Particles to make another suit.
Christopher Thomson I definitely misquote this piece. You are right that Hank didn’t pass it along but he did groom Darren to one day takeover.
@@ModernMouse You are correct there. Before typing my first comment I double checked on marvel cinematic universe fandom page. It was really easy to find the information and make sure I was remembering correctly.
What a touching look at a great scene. Admittedly, I've both been looking forward to and dreading the next chapter of the MCU. Knowing I'll be saying goodbye to heroes that I've fallen in love with and yet being excited about the new ones on the board. What if the magic is lost? What if it's not the same? What if the enthusiasm wanes? What if they start phoning it all in...? You've given me hope that this ride still has a long way to go before it coasts to a stop
Thank you for the kind words. After seeing Endgame (no spoilers) I think if they have a lot of adventures and stories to tell still. -Josh
From the very beginning in print Hank was a fish out of water as a superhero...but as a scientist and innovator he brought a lot to the table.
I agree with many of the other commentators about AntMan & AM&TW collectively being more than comic relief in the MCU. Scott Lang is a far better choice carrying the mantel of AntMan than Pym ever was. Peruse Avengers vol. 1 from origin to the Kree/Skrull War and you'll realize that Hank was always at his best as a scientist...and even in that, he still needed to be reigned in. He had lost a wife to terrorist. He had terribly low self esteem in all but his masked personae and his early interest in Janet was more than a bit perverse. Comic fans will recall that HE was also Giant Man and Goliath and Yellow Jacket (and this change while glossed over in the comics is pretty twisted). I could go on but suffice to say he makes a much better mentor and father. Scott is easily the more engaging type and plays the AntMan role with more passion and fun than Hank ever could. We the readers and viewers get to see the real power that AntMan brings and the creativity he brings to the powers. We don't give enough credit to insects in the United States...actually we believe them to be "dirty" but they comprise a more profound place in the ecology of the earth than humans ever could, not to mention being incredibly powerful at a species level despite being so specialized. Scott gets this AND he's willing to be a great student which is something Hank's ego had kept him from for a long time. Yay AntMan & Wasp! You rock, your movies rocked and your mostly misunderstood and under valued powers rock! We gotta get the band back together, but with Scott as drummer this time and Hope on keyboards...or that quantum realm button board thingy. Oh...Paul & Evangeline are the mack down pair of the century right after Cap and Peggy.
Great contribution man.
Finally someone talks about Ant Man the best marvel character aside from Howard The Duck
Yes!! I was so hoping y’all would join that playlist 🤩💜
We were planning to make a Marvel video this week anyhow so being a part of Nando’s series just worked out well for us! -Josh
Throwing my two cents in: The way Hank talks about his wife and the way he constantly dismisses his daughter always rubbed me the wrong way.
From what we know in the movie, the heist is Hope's idea because she's the inside man, but Hank completely takes over her mission and forbids her to go in, instead chosing an underqualified dude with a much higher chance to fail. Throughout the movie, Hank makes it clear that he sympathizes with Scott, a complete stranger, just because they're both dudes in a similar situation, while Hope has always been neglected, kept away from his secrets, and shut down. Hank wants to help Scott get his daughter back, projecting his desire to do the same, when Hope is standing RIGHT NEXT TO HIM. (All of this is pretty consistent and seems intentional, btw.)
When he finally talks about Hope's mom, he says his greatest regret is letting his wife be by his side as a hero. Hank is a very realistic portrayal of a man who has some issues with women (specifically, respecting them as his equals and allowing them agency) and I wish someone called him on it much more directly than a couple subtle comments when he finally gives the Wasp a suit. Well, maybe Michelle Pfeiffer will do the honors.
As it stands, my first thoughts after seeing Ant Man were: "Wow, I'm surprised Hope didn't flip the table and tell her dad to fuck off like, five times. She not only deserved to be a little bitchy - I mean, the way she was treated was almost the first half of a supervillain origin story. I can imagine a slightly darker version of her that joins Cross, stabs him in the back and becomes Yellow Jacket herself."
THANK YOU FOR LOVING ANT MAN
It's so hard going down this play list & hearing the occasional jab at Tony. "using technology like the Starks" Howard literally helped create Captain America, equipped him & his howling commandos, helped them during the war & never stopped looking for Steve.
Unknowingly, Tony continued that legacy, equipping & housing the Avengers + dedicating himself to clean energy & creating the Vision with Bruce (much like Erskine & Howard made Captain America) all while standing as a one man superhero for 4 years (Iron Man-Avengers 2012) and then wearing himself down to prepare for a threat no one else took seriously.
You'd think with how big of a fan the guys on this playlist are supposed to be, or how many times they've seen these movies, they'd notice that.
Audrey II I definitely notice that but my point isn’t a job at Tony and Howard Stark. It points at the rivalry between Hank Pym and Howard Stark. Regardless of all of the good Howard and Tony would eventually add to the world, Hank saw them as a company profiting off of war and wouldn’t stand for it. The Starks created the tech that would give us our heroes but would also supply the worlds villains. Hank didn’t want that and that’s why he kept his suit to himself, never handing over the science behind it. That’s why it hurts him so much when Darren is willing to.
Well since we are talking about redemption. Well technically MCU began with RDJ'S one shot to redemption.
Finally ant man getting some love.
Ant-man and Ant-man and the Wasp have the best scores and theme music (outside of Infinity war of course).
Outside Avengers 1,4 and 3, Black Panther, GOTG 1 and 2,
Thor Ragnarok ...
@@ddd22895 Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man...
@@ddd22895 But I will say that both the GOTG had great soundtracks.
Cpt. Marvel "Trust me true believer."
Its so annoying that we can never have the real hank in his glory days in the mcu
SPOILER
I saw a theory somewhere that since we were pretty sure Endgame was gonna use time travel, that Scott was going to travel back in time to talk to Hank Pym in order to get his help and basically set up his own origin story in the future. Of course Endgame took a slightly different route, and I think their version of time travel doesn't actually allow for time loops like this.
This is definitely an under subbed channel
Thank you so much! Glad to have you here and that you found us! -Josh
Hey does anyone know what the background music is? edit: I already figured it out lol it's 'choir of modesty" by cora zea. beautiful
_"Every new beginning comes from some other beginnings end....... game."_
It's been a long time since I heard "Closing Time" so now I'm going to go run and put Semisonic on Spotify. Thanks! -Josh
Thank yourself. lol 0:15 immediately called to mind that line.
Peace out!
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Glad you put this one together. -Josh
@@ModernMouse You scared me so much cause my name is Josh and I just was like how did you know.
But I get it now.
The Chinchilla Channel Maybe I did know your name Josh! -Josh
Uhhhh.....what? Scott was always a hero. He stole money back from a criminal for his victims.
I love the first ant man and all his appearances in other marvel movies but ant man and the wasp was a disappointment
TFN19 Lel I thought it was great! I think it had a hard time following Infinity War, but I thought Ghost was a cool character, the movie was funny like the first, and it seemed like a fun movie to make with all of the props and stunts. -Josh
The funniest movie in the MCU?
I'm sorry what?!