Just got my first 100m runs today on the foil, my third session, time to learn how to jibe and go downwind! Such a weird problem to have compared to tt/strapless -being too far upwind 😂 had to bodydrag back to shore 🤷🏽♂️
Went out again today, Jibe and Toeside riding on second try 🤯 Kept the tips in mind, didn’t even have to downloop, plenty wind and drift in kite, just redirect smoothly. So stoked 😃
thank you for your good advice. it was cool to see you kiting at cape hateras now I'm learning the foil and I'm on my jib .I have good core equipment for the foil.
Hi again Steven, new summer season = back on the foil. You mention initiating the gybes from a cross or upwind course,vwhich is fine in some cases, but what if you are actually trying to cruise downwind? Do you really have to change course upwind , gybe, then bear downwind again or is there a way to gybe directly from, say, a 45deg port downwind course to a 45 deg starboard course, as you would on a sailboat or even TT?
Hey David It's for sure possible to gybe from 45 to 45 when you've already been riding on a downwind course. The important part is that you found a stable kite position on that downwind course (where it sits deeper in the wind window). From there you can initiate the gybe with the board and steer the kite in a downloop 1-2 seconds later. It will be important to do the downloop gybe as a normal gybe won't be easy.
Well made and useful as usual. I managed the gybes and downloop gybes on my Double agent foil with a low aspect wing but not on my new foil with a high aspect wing. Could you cover the differences in technique with HA wings? Also I'd love a tutorial on optimizing downwind course and speed, I can go downwind roughly at the same angle as upwind (45 degrees or so) but am limited by loss of line tension and increasingly precarious balance as the kite is just drifting. Is it better to keep the kite high, low, to move it, to loop it? Etc...
Hey David. Thanks for your comment. I'm happy that you're managing to do the gybe on the low aspect wing. In general the low aspect wings are a bit slower / have more drag than the high aspect wings which makes the timing a bit less important. The downloop gybe should work better on the high aspect wings. I would love to cover all the technical parts on HA vs LA and how to optimize the downwind tack. But its low in my list on videos to make in the near future, there just isn't enough request for it atm. But ill see how these foil videos perform and I'll probably cover it somewhere next year. Going downwind is hard on the foil. And unless you create enough apparent wind like the racers you'll be stuck to riding downwind with a course similar to the upwind, or worse. I can't recommend looping, drift is probably your best bet
Get a foil kite like Sonic 3. If you sheet the bar in almost all the way it backstalls the kite allowing WAY more drift than any inflatable will allow. You can go pretty much go straight downwind with line tension.
Hey Steven, very nice video, again! They are just getting better and better :) where did you take this videos, the spot looks awesome! one more question, what would you recommend on a core SLC foil size (1000 ord 1250) if i already know how to go left and right easily and now a i want to practice gybes and tacks, etc.? cheers, domi
Hey Dominic, happy you like the video! It's filmed in Squamish, British columbia, Canada. The spot is mind blowing when you ride there. Personally I always ride the 1000cm, it's a bit faster and more reactive. I would make the choice depend on your weight and progression curve. < 75kg = 1000cm < 90kg and a good feel for sports = 1000cm >75 and slow learning in sports = 1250cm Hope this helps!
@@stevenakkersdijk thank you for the fast reply and the helpful information. the 1000cm it is then :) looking forward to your upcoming Master classes, cheers
Over the top gybe (14kt + wind with LEI) Kite first, then follow with board Steer up wind with kite at 45 Steer kite to 12 hard (because there will be less line tension) 1/2s later turn board At 12 pull bar in and continue toward 2 Take hand off bar Turn down wind to broad reach on other tack If you drop off foil try foot change Down loop on foil without turn Ride in with kite high in wind window (11ish) Point the board downwind and pull hard on the front hand with the bar down Follow the kite downwind Fly kite back high in the window (11ish) Push bar out a little Untwist lines when comfortable Downloop Gybe (light wind and foil kites) Board first, then follow with loop Ride in on up wind course Steer kite to 11 initiate turn with board 0.5s later initiate tight loop with front hand and bar fully sheeted in Let go with back hand Fly kite up to 1 before you sheet out Bear away down wind Apply hard front foot pressure throughout Foot Switch from toe back to heel side Fly kite to 12:30 and edge on upwind course Pull down on bar and pull down front hand to lift yourself up on foil and swap your feet Let go with front hand Move back foot first Maintain front foot pressure throughout
Hey Steven, Im finally considering foiling. My Nexus 11m and 8m are ready. What do you recommend, buy a freeride foil and start learning myself, or take a lesson for the basics? I already wingfoiled, and this went surprisingly well. Keep up the nice video's what gives people the mood for more progression 🤙
Hey Nils, good choice! If you've been wingfoiling you'll be completely fine. Just get yourself a foil with a front wing size of ±1200cm and ±80cm mast. From there you can just start trying. Make sure to watch some tutorials on the start etc.
About surf board: i do both variants of tack and jibes, foot switch. But this really didn't help me with any of mentioned maneuvers on foil, it just works really different.
It does work very different indeed. But I do think it makes it slightly easier as you already understand the movement. (vs a twintip rider who has never done a tack like that)
dont turn / loop your Kite below 11 or 1 am. your lines will slack, it dosent matter how windy it is. My keylearing after one kite season alone on a lake
Mainly depends on your timing of the loop vs when you steer the board downwind. If you go downwind early enough you could loop ot from 45 degrees down no problem.
In the beginning I often had to look down in order to see where my feet are. But after a while it's better to keep looking at your riding direction in order to keep balance.
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Just got my first 100m runs today on the foil, my third session, time to learn how to jibe and go downwind! Such a weird problem to have compared to tt/strapless -being too far upwind 😂 had to bodydrag back to shore 🤷🏽♂️
Went out again today, Jibe and Toeside riding on second try 🤯 Kept the tips in mind, didn’t even have to downloop, plenty wind and drift in kite, just redirect smoothly. So stoked 😃
Awesome! Stoked to hear that the tip shelped out and you're getting such quick progression on the foil!
Really excellent and fully motivating video with very clear explanations, thank You🎉
Glad it was helpful!
Hi, top notch information, thank you very much
You are welcome!
Thanks mate, exactly what I was looking for.
Very well explained along with good camera work and editing.
Thanks Carlo! I'm glad you like it
Wow man, the level and quality of the video is astonishing :D great job !
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed the video.
Great Video Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really good and relax explained!!!! Very Clear, Keep Up The Good Work!!!!!!!!
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very good quality video.
Thank you
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thank you for your good advice. it was cool to see you kiting at cape hateras now I'm learning the foil and I'm on my jib .I have good core equipment for the foil.
That's awesome! It's always exciting to go out there and try something new. Have fun on the water and good luck 🤙
Thanks Steven, great video.
My pleasure. Glad you like it
I saw this video many times!
Hope that it helps you to achieve your goals!
Nicely explained mate!
Thanks! Happy you like it
So good, thanks for sharing
My pleasure! Thanks for the support
Hi again Steven, new summer season = back on the foil. You mention initiating the gybes from a cross or upwind course,vwhich is fine in some cases, but what if you are actually trying to cruise downwind? Do you really have to change course upwind , gybe, then bear downwind again or is there a way to gybe directly from, say, a 45deg port downwind course to a 45 deg starboard course, as you would on a sailboat or even TT?
Hey David
It's for sure possible to gybe from 45 to 45 when you've already been riding on a downwind course. The important part is that you found a stable kite position on that downwind course (where it sits deeper in the wind window). From there you can initiate the gybe with the board and steer the kite in a downloop 1-2 seconds later. It will be important to do the downloop gybe as a normal gybe won't be easy.
Well made and useful as usual. I managed the gybes and downloop gybes on my Double agent foil with a low aspect wing but not on my new foil with a high aspect wing. Could you cover the differences in technique with HA wings?
Also I'd love a tutorial on optimizing downwind course and speed, I can go downwind roughly at the same angle as upwind (45 degrees or so) but am limited by loss of line tension and increasingly precarious balance as the kite is just drifting. Is it better to keep the kite high, low, to move it, to loop it? Etc...
Hey David. Thanks for your comment. I'm happy that you're managing to do the gybe on the low aspect wing. In general the low aspect wings are a bit slower / have more drag than the high aspect wings which makes the timing a bit less important. The downloop gybe should work better on the high aspect wings.
I would love to cover all the technical parts on HA vs LA and how to optimize the downwind tack. But its low in my list on videos to make in the near future, there just isn't enough request for it atm. But ill see how these foil videos perform and I'll probably cover it somewhere next year.
Going downwind is hard on the foil. And unless you create enough apparent wind like the racers you'll be stuck to riding downwind with a course similar to the upwind, or worse. I can't recommend looping, drift is probably your best bet
Get a foil kite like Sonic 3. If you sheet the bar in almost all the way it backstalls the kite allowing WAY more drift than any inflatable will allow. You can go pretty much go straight downwind with line tension.
Also keep the kite low while going downwind. It will almost be touching the water.
Hey Steven, very nice video, again! They are just getting better and better :) where did you take this videos, the spot looks awesome! one more question, what would you recommend on a core SLC foil size (1000 ord 1250) if i already know how to go left and right easily and now a i want to practice gybes and tacks, etc.? cheers, domi
Hey Dominic, happy you like the video! It's filmed in Squamish, British columbia, Canada. The spot is mind blowing when you ride there.
Personally I always ride the 1000cm, it's a bit faster and more reactive. I would make the choice depend on your weight and progression curve.
< 75kg = 1000cm
< 90kg and a good feel for sports = 1000cm
>75 and slow learning in sports = 1250cm
Hope this helps!
@@stevenakkersdijk thank you for the fast reply and the helpful information. the 1000cm it is then :) looking forward to your upcoming Master classes, cheers
perfect!
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i am at that f**king foot switch 😂 hope to get it with your video
Hope the video helps. It still stays a lot of practise though 😅
Over the top gybe (14kt + wind with LEI) Kite first, then follow with board
Steer up wind with kite at 45
Steer kite to 12 hard (because there will be less line tension)
1/2s later turn board
At 12 pull bar in and continue toward 2
Take hand off bar
Turn down wind to broad reach on other tack
If you drop off foil try foot change
Down loop on foil without turn
Ride in with kite high in wind window (11ish)
Point the board downwind and pull hard on the front hand with the bar down
Follow the kite downwind
Fly kite back high in the window (11ish)
Push bar out a little
Untwist lines when comfortable
Downloop Gybe (light wind and foil kites) Board first, then follow with loop
Ride in on up wind course
Steer kite to 11
initiate turn with board
0.5s later initiate tight loop with front hand and bar fully sheeted in
Let go with back hand
Fly kite up to 1 before you sheet out
Bear away down wind
Apply hard front foot pressure throughout
Foot Switch from toe back to heel side
Fly kite to 12:30 and edge on upwind course
Pull down on bar and pull down front hand to lift yourself up on foil and swap your feet
Let go with front hand
Move back foot first
Maintain front foot pressure throughout
That pretty much sums it up yes 😉
Hey Steven, Im finally considering foiling. My Nexus 11m and 8m are ready. What do you recommend, buy a freeride foil and start learning myself, or take a lesson for the basics? I already wingfoiled, and this went surprisingly well. Keep up the nice video's what gives people the mood for more progression 🤙
Hey Nils, good choice!
If you've been wingfoiling you'll be completely fine. Just get yourself a foil with a front wing size of ±1200cm and ±80cm mast. From there you can just start trying.
Make sure to watch some tutorials on the start etc.
hey Steven. where was it filmed? looks perfect to learn kitefoil
This was filmed at squamish, British Columbia
nice.thanks.helpful..
My pleasure
About surf board: i do both variants of tack and jibes, foot switch. But this really didn't help me with any of mentioned maneuvers on foil, it just works really different.
It does work very different indeed. But I do think it makes it slightly easier as you already understand the movement. (vs a twintip rider who has never done a tack like that)
How long are your lines ?
I'm always foiling on 16m lines, but for most of these tricks its easier to have 22m lines.
Where is this spot ??
Its Squamish in British Columbia, Canada. Awesome spot, but access will be hard next year
Let go the front hand?
Where in the video do I say this that you find it weird?
@@stevenakkersdijk at 3:01
Nice job 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
dont turn / loop your Kite below 11 or 1 am. your lines will slack, it dosent matter how windy it is. My keylearing after one kite season alone on a lake
Mainly depends on your timing of the loop vs when you steer the board downwind. If you go downwind early enough you could loop ot from 45 degrees down no problem.
Step 1. Find a windy spot with mirror smooth water…
That does help a lot 😉
@@stevenakkersdijk;) any tips for a
great spot like that in the southern hemisphere you’ve been and can recommend ideally not far from new zealand 🇳🇿
@@stevenakkersdijkgreat video by the way! can’t wait to try all your tips
Do you look down at our feet while switching or do have to look head
In the beginning I often had to look down in order to see where my feet are. But after a while it's better to keep looking at your riding direction in order to keep balance.