Although I’m not that old, I did help my granddad put his two row picker on his Ford (tri-cycle type) tractor. It wraped around the whole tractor. I think the rear part went on first, then the front. It sat in one of the old barns. He had two wagons. He had an elevator backed up to the two story corn bin. I would get up in that bin toward the end of the harvest to level off the ears. We used a handyman jack to get the corn out of the wagons easier. As a young boy, it was always a thrill to get to drive the other tractor from the field to the corn bin. I think granddad had about 30 acres of corn. When the corn bin was full, a neighbor would shell the remaining corn left in the fields. His cows would eat well before he hauled them off to the market. After harvest, he would repair his fences and turn the cattle into the field to glean the remaining ears. He earned a fair living off the farm. He also raised about an acre of burly and dark tobacco. On a side note, my grand parents had the first color tv in the neighbor. Grand mother loved her soap opera and NBC had them “in living color.” You didn’t bother her from 1 to 3 pm………… Love this video. And the insurance talk is relevant. Keep them up.
I love watching these old pickers at work . My grandpa still picked ear corn as a kid growing up so I got to spend a lot time dodging ears in the back of the wagon . I like to have a old picker just to save from going to the scrap yard and to play with once a year . I got a cultivator like you showed and I didn't care to much how it cultivated corn as well . I found easier for me just to make wide rows that my tractor and tiller can go down . It lets me till the weeds no matter how tall the corn gets . Thanks so much for sharing !
That is the exact same picker we used when I was a kid on the farm. Worked pretty well, for it's day. I enjoy seeing those old machines back working again!
Hi Tim & Christy.. This video brings back great memories for me.. My dad had an Oliver 83H two row pull type picker on the farm, back in the late 60's & early 70's... He was a dairy farmer here in Wisconsin, so we grew just enough corn & oats to feed the milking herd, and young stock.. Alfalfa hay was the most important crop for us, that's what made the cows really produce!!.. Really enjoyed your video, it brought back wonderful memories for me.. Thanks Tim & Christy!!.. God's blessings to the two of you & your families..
A corn rake that has the tines bent down 90 degrees, would have worked better than the shovel, because you would be pulling the ear corn towards you. Did a lot of shelling ear corn out of wooden and wire corn cribs in the 60's and 70's. We would use the corn rakes to pull the ear corn down into the elevator until we got down to floor level. Then we used the grain shovels to push and scoop the ear corn into the elevator. We had various lengths of handles on the corn rakes for various conditions. 2 foot long, up to about 12 feet long. It all depended on if the corn crib had a gutter running down the middle for the elevator, or if the elevator had to be outside the corn crib, with doors/panels that opened up on the outside. Usually the people with trucks and wagons that were collecting the corn cobs, would use the longer corn rakes to move the corn cobs around.
Really enjoyed seeing the older machine work! Myself I am amazed at the design and engineering that went into making those older machines work like they do. Thanks for doing this segment.
New Idea sold a lot of those corn pickers back in the day. My father sold Allis Chalmers at the local dealership for over 25 years and New Idea was one of their short lines. Good equipment manufacturer. We used one for corn for chicken feed. My grandfather had 300 layers and sold eggs. Worked well but you had to keep them oiled up and greased. We pulled ours with a Farmall M with a M&W hand clutch. They don't require a lot of HP to run. Good combo for us. Another nice video Tim. Thanks.
Those drone shots keep getting better and really help illustrate what you are doing. The finance committee must be very pleased. I think the finance committee should get whatever it wants!
That's a #10 New Idea picker. The 1 row version of it would have been a #6. Probably a decent match for a small compact on level ground. Those would have been pulled by an H Farmall or B JD back when they were new. On hilly ground, especially with a wagon behind, I'd never try a compact. The newer (and much heavier) 300 series NI pickers were all a 70hp farm tractor wanted (or could control going downhill) with a 150-200 bushel gravity wagon behind. We would start in the hills with an empty wagon and move to flatter areas of the fields as the wagons got heavier.
Boy did that bring back memories, and also how much I detest foxtail! What a pain and if it was wet, it was worse. What a hoot to see Johnny on the picker. I continue to be amazed at what it can do. Lotta fun to watch and Christy did a great job showing how they operate, and the drone shots were super. Thanks for another great video, and taking me back to another time and place. Blessings!
I used to have to weedeat in between rows, small enough you could do it, but plenty big enough to use a tractor to get it plowed n disced up, Fox Tail and "Pack Saddles" that's what the old man lived next door called em Saddleback Caterpillars I believe is the name, I don't miss it, I can still smell the mixture of Corn,Grass,And 2 stroke from a old curved shaft Mac weedeater.
As a boy, I picked corn in the late fall, for my grandfather, with a Johnny A and a two row corn picker. It was always cold; sometimes snowing/dark, after school/weekend work. Corn cribs were the means for storage. Grinding corn was the means for feeding cattle. When time allowed we shelled corn for the next year's seed. What a throw back to yesteryear! How times have changed!
My dad still picks his corn with a 1 row new idea picker. Because of mud this year we were pulling it with an Oliver oc6 crawler but some years he uses his 66 Oliver which is probably about the same hp as a 1025
That's awesome! My grandad had 2 of those wooden 4 wheel trailers.. In early 40s, they pulled corn picker behind an H farmall. My dad was the youngest in family and couldn't reach clutch. So my grandad made wooden blocks so my dad could work clutch. My dad drove in low, while rest of family scooped, retrieved missed ears, etc. My grandad would telly my dad when to stop and start.
Hi Tim! I I am 61 years old, and I remember I picked a lot of corn with my father’s Minneapolis Moline two row corn picker. I was just a teenager in West Central Minnesota! And I used an M International tractor, with a heat houser to keep me warm! We had two 1000 bushel corn cribs and quite often we had one or two corn piles besides! I was raised on a dairy and beef farm so we had a lot of grinding feed to do! Sincerely, Sam Hanson 😎👍🇺🇸
Great video. I can still remember being a kid in the 60s trying to stand up and walk around on eared corn in my grandpa’s wagon. It was really hard to do. Shoveling it was even harder. He had an old AC tractor with a tricycle frontend. My dad always helped him put the two row corn picker on the AC before corn harvest. It took them all day!!!
Tim, you need to find a way to rig up a belt pulley to that 1025 and hook it to an old stationary sheller or mill. Show everyone the whole process from beginning to end with a modern tractor. Love these videos man, thanks for all the work!
Some of the later model New Idea pickers had a removable husking bed and you could then install a shelling bed for shelled corn. That is what I grew up with. We would fill the cribs with corn then switch to the sheller bed and shell the rest of the crop for the grain bin or for the market. They are very handy units for the niche market farmers. The ear corn can be ground into feed for calves, and other livestock, which makes a good feed when used as a base for your feed mix. As for a good cultivator, One can repurpose some chisel plow shanks as there are 12 and 14" sweeps for them. This will give the necessary clearance for taller corn and the large single sweep will do most of the center of the row on wide row spacings and may only require two smaller half sweeps if you want to get closer to the row. This aids in passing grasses and weeds for those who want to be chemical free when growing their crops, as there are only one to three shovels, depending on the area you want to cover in the row. Thank you again for another neat video
Just a couple of notes: Back in the day, a 2 row picker was normally operated by a 40+ hp tractor like a JD A, 60, 620, etc. We had a JD 227 mounted on our JD 720 in the late '60's. And, back then, we were planting about 24,000 to 26,000 plants per acre on 38" rows.
Gotta watch this later but I love seeing you try the small new tractors on old farm equipment answering the question if it’s feasible and practical, I like seeing all the new toys (implements) you test too, but it’s neat to learn the practicality of using the old stuff! Thank you!
Well done Tim, looks like you all had a blast. At the top of the elevator, the hood should have an adjustable baffle, opened up it would to toss the corn further back in the wagon without the need to handle it.
We picked Corn on the Farm with a 2 row picker like that one. We started with a 550 Cockshot then a 1200 David Brown. Those were the Dazz!!! Thanks for Sharing. God Bless.
Tim, the 1025 and 2025 have the same engine, it I remember correctly 74 cubic inch displacement. They produce 40 lb ft of torque. Even though the 3025 has the same HP rating, the 3025 uses a 100 cubic inch engine that puts out 54 lbs ft of torque. I'm sure you did notice the difference under load.
My fav episode yet! Memories of corn picking with an old ford 6000, dumping into gravity wagons, using hay elevator to fill the corn crib. Great times. Until winter came and you needed a pick to break the solid ice corn cobs apart lol
Johnny picking corn on a beautiful day, what could be better. This video shows just what a hobby farm is, working with smaller equipment and smaller fields. Any more than this and you would need a Combine, more land and to work 80 hours a week. I also enjoy the Insurance questions. It's not my direction of need but great information. Come by my house next spring and we will till and plant corn in my front yard.😊
The insurance questions that you have highlighted have been great along with all the other content. I personally may not need any of the information of the provided, but it has been food for thought. I consider your channel a great resource for information. It is difficult to ask questions sometime when you don't know what you don't know. Great job with your content.
I worked for a farmer when I was 12 years old until 18 and every morning before any equipment was used my job was to go over the machine from top to bottom and grease and oil everything on it. He made his machinery last for years and didn’t have to spend booko amounts of money for crazy priced equipment. And made a very good living on this 200 acre farm.
Brings back memories we would back the wagon up to a JD elevator and unload with sliding cable drawn wall with ratchet style windup device, the Electric motor also changed onto bench grinder paddle pump, table saw etc. Later on grandpa hired out the combining and corn picking, nowadays two hours time gets clean shelled corn no waste that would have taken four days or more with breakdowns just to pick ear corn. Good memories though....
I enjoyed watching the corn picking video. What struck me the most here was the all the weeds. Don’t remember see that in the Minnesota corn fields of my youth. My 9 & 10 year old summers were spent on the farm cultivating corn and soybeans. Interesting video for sure.
I thought it was fun, too. Thanks for showing us what each tractor that was on hand can do. It took me back to the fun day up in Rantoul in late August '21, watching all the great old equipment perform and the demonstrations they did for the crowd.
Great demonstration Tim of all the different series tractors pulling the New Idea picker. My dad used a piece of 5V tin and made an extended chute on the elevator on his to evenly fill the wagon, or you could still use an 8 year old boy to scoop front to back!!! Years ago I tried a New Holland 630 round baler on my 850 John Deere and found that it worked much better with single windrowed hay than a double windrowed. Now you just need an antique Black Hawk sheller to shell all those ears!!! Keep up the good videography!!!
Country Financial Tips are helpful, and while it's obvious it's a sponsored bit, I have no problem whatsoever that you can use this to help fund your channel - Good for you Tim and Family!
We used a similar New Idea single row three point hitch corn picker on our farm. It worked really well, though it was a lot of work unloading the wagon into our corn bin. Later we would have to load the corn into the back of our pickup truck to take to the local feed mill to be ground into hog feed.
When we picked ear corn 30+ years ago , we used a 4/5 tine cultivation tool to move heaped ear corn (in wagon or when removing from crib). That was the time we loved working as we got $1 per wagon we unloaded into or out of the crib. $20-25 was big money when you are 10-12 years old!
I used to follow the picker with a horse and a small buck board wagon. We would pick up left over ears of corn and throw them into the buck board. It would be corn for the horse during the winter. Cheers
That picker is quite a bit older than the one we still use every year on our farm. We planted 60 acres of corn, and so far all of it has been ear picked with the New Idea pull type, and also a 3020 gas with JD 237 mounted picker opening up fields. Within the next couple days, we'll start field shelling with a 1967 model 95 EB and 444 corn head.
I had a 1941 M. Farmall. I pulled a three bottom 14 in fourth gear all day long. I pulled a 10' International Disc and used a two row New Idea corn picker. All pulled with my M Farmall. It looks to me like you could do as much with that tractor as you are doing with those John Deere. I did have a John Deer grain harvester with its own motor. Did a good job, still, pulled without problems with a 1941 Farmall M. Great tractor and this was in the late 60's through to the early 1980s.
The questions and answers on insurability and the scope of coverage by usage/fequency make sense and were helpful to me. I have purchased a few different business policies over the years in the area of non-profits and I understood that communicating the usage to the insurance broker was paramount in settling any future claims. You don't get ahead by being vague and deceptive to the insurance broker - in fact, it could be a reason for policy cancelation at a time when you really need the policy coverage. Keep it going -
On these old New Idea pickers, and others; you want your rear elevator to place product as close to the middle of the wagon as possible. Two ways to achieve this: Change the angle of the elevator so it still clears the front of the wagon and places ears near center; or change the ratio of the speed of the elevator slightly faster so ears are thrown further back on the wagon. The closer you get the ears to the center, the less scooping needed; and momentum and natural jerking of wagon will work the load evenly toward the front and back of the wagon. This comes from decades of experience around pickers. Also, as with modern machines; the width between rollers and strip plates is determined by stalk size, just so stalk easily fits between and not so wide that the cob won't fit. If the cob can fit between the stripper plates, then the rollers will shell the kernels off. On some newer models, they offered and option of cutter knives that almost touched the rollers to sheer weeds and trash off of the rollers; which helped keep rollers cleaner.
My dad farmed 80 acres from 1953 to 1962 using a 1945 John Deere, and picked corn with a 2 row pull Massey Ferguson picker. The only new items were his 1945 John Deere tractor and a John Deere 2 row pull corn planter. Every other implement was used. You scared me a little when you were handling the corn stalks without gloves. I grabbed a corn stalk with my left hand and sliced my left hand open. Those corn stalks were very sharp.
You guys did a good job. I like watching the insurance question and answer sessions. It’s a good idea to know what coverage you need in different situations.
Great video. I use a 1966 New Idea one row behind my 2038r. I have also ran it behind a 3020 row crop and a WD Allis. When doing different jobs with the 2038R I often wonder if my Grandpa would have used the new tractor over the WD for certain jobs. This job I am certain he would have chose the new one for. The quietness and the hydrostatic drive make all the difference. I as far as horsepower it doesn’t know it is there and as the wagon fills up the weight is noticeable but I still only need to run in 2 wheel drive. When these came out in 1966 the average yield was almost 90 bushels per acre. It is more than double that now so it is a big job for the picker to keep up with the volume of corn. There is an expert on these up in Green Bay Wisconsin and he told me when I was restoring mine that 1mph was about as fast as it should be pushed with the yields we get today but that is figuring about 30k population.
Well, the 1025r isn't just for mowing lawns anymore. 😊 Do you still remember when you started out doing the backyard projects? I think you still have a lot of fun with the grapple. You keep proving it's the rear implements that show the versatility of a tractor of any size. I just have a hard time seeing those hills you're talking about though. 🤷♂️ God Bless. Christie you keep doing great work with the camera(s).🌽🍔
Tim, thank you for another trip down memory lane. A two row corn picker feeding a wagon with those red side boards was my life sixty years ago. Of course, the tractor was not so shiny even if it was green!
I’ve been waiting to see how the yield would be on this. Awesome video and thanks for sharing this. I think it would be worth the while to open pollinate a few rows of those red ears either it being far enough away from other corn or in a controlled environment to see what happens.
I remember going with my brother to the neighbor's house and my brother and he would shovel the ears of corn out of the neighbor's truck in to the barned though a window into the corn bend with a big scoop shovel. I would pick some up and throw it in the bend by hand I was big enough to do much I just wanted to be with my Brother he was a few years older than me and just wanted to be around him. Stay safe and God bless you'll. Dan
I've often wondered how these machines worked, so this as fun to watch. I enjoy listening to the insurance questions and answers, it reminds me that I need to see about getting some. Country Financial isn't in my area and I just haven't reached out to my insurance carrier to see if they offer something for my tractor.
Grandpa always kept a few red ears and hand shelled them. Then he'd put a few red kernels in each box when he planted. I don't know the wife's tale as to why he did it, but it was always fun as a kid collecting the red ears when we ground feed.
my grandpa had this picker up until the 90's we ran it with a 55hp minneapolis moline. there's clay in the soil base in minnesota and there are pockets that are real soup unless it's the end of july and there hasn't been much rain for a month that even the tough old moline got stuck in numerous times. 4:45 yeah your lack of horse power an be heard in the engine strain. my grandfather said 30-35hp fords struggled with this set up even in winter with frozen ground. my grandfather ran a til bed flare box for collection tho as it all went into the corn cribs right away with a wagon swap out on the trip back towards the farm.
i love the insurance questions. Although I am not commercially using a tractor...i am digging and using it on my farm. And there are cable lines, and Telephone lines, etc around the property....so I use it to gauge my risk and make sure my agent knows. I think the roller adjustment timing was just right.....try it for a little and then adjust. Maybe could have done it earlier but need to separate causes of problems, grass, stalks, rollers. So need expereine with each setting. 1025 just doesn't have the mass, frame size, to handle the bigger corn picker. The 5 series was ideally matched in both mass and horsepower.
I don't know if that's a 1957 New Idea picker or not, but my grandfather had one of those when I was a kid. Used to open that center door in the row separator and get down inside there. That was my space ship!!
I know your not a fan of the 3025e but it was really nice to see you use a 3 series. As a 3025e owner I chose the larger frame size with the 25 hp because I will not be mowing with it. As you pointed out the heavier frame with same motor can muscle things around better. Love to see your do more 3 series. Thanks
Plant again next year. What do you have to loose?!? That is a nice looking picker. I hear you are going to be at the convention in Louisville. Travel safe! Take Care, Jason
1945 Dad had a black and white pair of mules that pulled the Deering 2 row corn planter. That November (still mule powered) I would play in the wagon flat as Dad husk the ends by hand so Grandpa's John Deere B with a 2 row New Idea corn picker could make the turns picking the field! Needed a corn fork, not a scoop shovel for ease. Would do it all over again as many an evening we would have fresh rabbit or pheasant for supper.
The 1025r and the 3025e are both 25 horse, but the 3025 actually has a bigger displacement engine, it has more torque that's why it will feel a little more powerful. The 1025r and 2025r both are higher reving smaller displacement, the 3025 revs lower and I believe is a .3L bigger motor.
I picked corn with a new idea corn picker it was a mounted 2 row on a farmall m lot of fun in the rain Ended up with pneumonia Had to pull the trks out of the fields with a D2 cat
I started bushhogging with a 1949 u when I was about 9 years old, had a hand clutch, had to get off seat to push brakes. Wish I had those days back. I am 58 now soon to be 59.
That is a New Ides model 300. I bought a used one back in 1972. I paid $900.00 for it back then. I ran it about 3 or 4 years, and then I traded for a New Idea model 330 with a sheller attachment. After that I bought a use IH model 503 combine w/a 4 row corn head.
When I was a kid on our farm and we had to break four rows by hand to make room for the tractor and picker we didn’t call it a new idea we called it a BAD IDEA!😂😂😂😂😂 actually some good memories thanks. Ps foxtail did and does still sucks
Tim… that’s one implement that I don’t have for my BX23S! I don’t grow corn. I don’t offer corn picking as one of my services…. But, you just opened a whole new business opportunity for me! Im headed right over to Craigslist and e-bay. Surely someone has a single row picker for sale! Thanx for the entertaining and informative vid!
Tim, I would love to see what changes might have been made to this small grow since you've last visited. Larger grow area? Fertilizer? Different cultivator?
That was a good bit of corn for a small plot and I do think that the picker worked better on the bigger tractor. Great video btw 👍 very interesting to watch
We want Husk and all on our corn - sometimes be put them on the BBQ and the husk helps protect the kernels from drying out (popcorn) and it steams the corn. We also put them in our tall slow cooking smoker we use for heavy meat blocks. Add veges about the time you have the meat ready. They take less time to cook. What that sugar cane mixed in ?? :-)
No one would use those small tractors when production is the goal. But l like these videos showing how they do in these situations. Nothing wrong with trying it out.
Although I’m not that old, I did help my granddad put his two row picker on his Ford (tri-cycle type) tractor. It wraped around the whole tractor. I think the rear part went on first, then the front. It sat in one of the old barns. He had two wagons. He had an elevator backed up to the two story corn bin. I would get up in that bin toward the end of the harvest to level off the ears. We used a handyman jack to get the corn out of the wagons easier. As a young boy, it was always a thrill to get to drive the other tractor from the field to the corn bin. I think granddad had about 30 acres of corn. When the corn bin was full, a neighbor would shell the remaining corn left in the fields. His cows would eat well before he hauled them off to the market. After harvest, he would repair his fences and turn the cattle into the field to glean the remaining ears. He earned a fair living off the farm. He also raised about an acre of burly and dark tobacco.
On a side note, my grand parents had the first color tv in the neighbor. Grand mother loved her soap opera and NBC had them “in living color.” You didn’t bother her from 1 to 3 pm…………
Love this video. And the insurance talk is relevant. Keep them up.
I love watching these old pickers at work . My grandpa still picked ear corn as a kid growing up so I got to spend a lot time dodging ears in the back of the wagon . I like to have a old picker just to save from going to the scrap yard and to play with once a year . I got a cultivator like you showed and I didn't care to much how it cultivated corn as well . I found easier for me just to make wide rows that my tractor and tiller can go down . It lets me till the weeds no matter how tall the corn gets . Thanks so much for sharing !
It’s pretty cool people are keeping the old equipment operational. Thanks for sharing.
I appreciate old equipment as well, especially for us who’ve not seen much actually working.
That is the exact same picker we used when I was a kid on the farm. Worked pretty well, for it's day. I enjoy seeing those old machines back working again!
Hi Tim & Christy.. This video brings back great memories for me.. My dad had an Oliver 83H two row pull type picker on the farm, back in the late 60's & early 70's... He was a dairy farmer here in Wisconsin, so we grew just enough corn & oats to feed the milking herd, and young stock.. Alfalfa hay was the most important crop for us, that's what made the cows really produce!!.. Really enjoyed your video, it brought back wonderful memories for me.. Thanks Tim & Christy!!.. God's blessings to the two of you & your families..
We have enjoyed all the insurance questions and got to know some great people. Thank for all the questions!!!!
A corn rake that has the tines bent down 90 degrees, would have worked better than the shovel, because you would be pulling the ear corn towards you. Did a lot of shelling ear corn out of wooden and wire corn cribs in the 60's and 70's. We would use the corn rakes to pull the ear corn down into the elevator until we got down to floor level. Then we used the grain shovels to push and scoop the ear corn into the elevator. We had various lengths of handles on the corn rakes for various conditions. 2 foot long, up to about 12 feet long. It all depended on if the corn crib had a gutter running down the middle for the elevator, or if the elevator had to be outside the corn crib, with doors/panels that opened up on the outside. Usually the people with trucks and wagons that were collecting the corn cobs, would use the longer corn rakes to move the corn cobs around.
I forgot all about corn rakes. That was over 50 years ago that I used one.
Really enjoyed seeing the older machine work! Myself I am amazed at the design and engineering that went into making those older machines work like they do. Thanks for doing this segment.
To answer your question, I appreciate and have learned a lot from the insurance cut outs. Thank you for taking the time to make them.
I sure do miss the fall corn picking. I was 15 and hauled the wagon to the elevator at the corn shed and unloaded them.
New Idea sold a lot of those corn pickers back in the day. My father sold Allis Chalmers at the local dealership for over 25 years and New Idea was one of their short lines. Good equipment manufacturer. We used one for corn for chicken feed. My grandfather had 300 layers and sold eggs. Worked well but you had to keep them oiled up and greased. We pulled ours with a Farmall M with a M&W hand clutch. They don't require a lot of HP to run. Good combo for us. Another nice video Tim. Thanks.
The corn picker or the chickens?
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Those drone shots keep getting better and really help illustrate what you are doing. The finance committee must be very pleased. I think the finance committee should get whatever it wants!
That's a #10 New Idea picker. The 1 row version of it would have been a #6. Probably a decent match for a small compact on level ground. Those would have been pulled by an H Farmall or B JD back when they were new. On hilly ground, especially with a wagon behind, I'd never try a compact. The newer (and much heavier) 300 series NI pickers were all a 70hp farm tractor wanted (or could control going downhill) with a 150-200 bushel gravity wagon behind. We would start in the hills with an empty wagon and move to flatter areas of the fields as the wagons got heavier.
Boy did that bring back memories, and also how much I detest foxtail! What a pain and if it was wet, it was worse. What a hoot to see Johnny on the picker. I continue to be amazed at what it can do. Lotta fun to watch and Christy did a great job showing how they operate, and the drone shots were super. Thanks for another great video, and taking me back to another time and place. Blessings!
I used to have to weedeat in between rows, small enough you could do it, but plenty big enough to use a tractor to get it plowed n disced up, Fox Tail and "Pack Saddles" that's what the old man lived next door called em Saddleback Caterpillars I believe is the name, I don't miss it, I can still smell the mixture of Corn,Grass,And 2 stroke from a old curved shaft Mac weedeater.
As a boy, I picked corn in the late fall, for my grandfather, with a Johnny A and a two row corn picker. It was always cold; sometimes snowing/dark, after school/weekend work. Corn cribs were the means for storage. Grinding corn was the means for feeding cattle. When time allowed we shelled corn for the next year's seed. What a throw back to yesteryear! How times have changed!
My dad still picks his corn with a 1 row new idea picker. Because of mud this year we were pulling it with an Oliver oc6 crawler but some years he uses his 66 Oliver which is probably about the same hp as a 1025
That's awesome! My grandad had 2 of those wooden 4 wheel trailers.. In early 40s, they pulled corn picker behind an H farmall. My dad was the youngest in family and couldn't reach clutch. So my grandad made wooden blocks so my dad could work clutch. My dad drove in low, while rest of family scooped, retrieved missed ears, etc. My grandad would telly my dad when to stop and start.
Hi Tim! I I am 61 years old, and I remember I picked a lot of corn with my father’s Minneapolis Moline two row corn picker. I was just a teenager in West Central Minnesota! And I used an M International tractor, with a heat houser to keep me warm! We had two 1000 bushel corn cribs and quite often we had one or two corn piles besides! I was raised on a dairy and beef farm so we had a lot of grinding feed to do! Sincerely, Sam Hanson 😎👍🇺🇸
Sounds like good memories, Sam!
Great video. I can still remember being a kid in the 60s trying to stand up and walk around on eared corn in my grandpa’s wagon. It was really hard to do. Shoveling it was even harder. He had an old AC tractor with a tricycle frontend. My dad always helped him put the two row corn picker on the AC before corn harvest. It took them all day!!!
Thanks Tim for sharing my dad is just a little younger then you dad was god bless him but he got a kick out this thanks for sharing love y’all
Tim, you need to find a way to rig up a belt pulley to that 1025 and hook it to an old stationary sheller or mill. Show everyone the whole process from beginning to end with a modern tractor. Love these videos man, thanks for all the work!
Like going to a Threshing Bee show. They that stuff.
Some of the later model New Idea pickers had a removable husking bed and you could then install a shelling bed for shelled corn. That is what I grew up with. We would fill the cribs with corn then switch to the sheller bed and shell the rest of the crop for the grain bin or for the market. They are very handy units for the niche market farmers. The ear corn can be ground into feed for calves, and other livestock, which makes a good feed when used as a base for your feed mix.
As for a good cultivator, One can repurpose some chisel plow shanks as there are 12 and 14" sweeps for them. This will give the necessary clearance for taller corn and the large single sweep will do most of the center of the row on wide row spacings and may only require two smaller half sweeps if you want to get closer to the row. This aids in passing grasses and weeds for those who want to be chemical free when growing their crops, as there are only one to three shovels, depending on the area you want to cover in the row.
Thank you again for another neat video
Just a couple of notes: Back in the day, a 2 row picker was normally operated by a 40+ hp tractor like a JD A, 60, 620, etc. We had a JD 227 mounted on our JD 720 in the late '60's. And, back then, we were planting about 24,000 to 26,000 plants per acre on 38" rows.
Gotta watch this later but I love seeing you try the small new tractors on old farm equipment answering the question if it’s feasible and practical, I like seeing all the new toys (implements) you test too, but it’s neat to learn the practicality of using the old stuff! Thank you!
Well done Tim, looks like you all had a blast. At the top of the elevator, the hood should have an adjustable baffle, opened up it would to toss the corn further back in the wagon without the need to handle it.
We picked Corn on the Farm with a 2 row picker like that one. We started with a 550 Cockshot then a 1200 David Brown. Those were the Dazz!!!
Thanks for Sharing.
God Bless.
Love watching older equipment being used. Really enjoyed the video.
Tim, the 1025 and 2025 have the same engine, it I remember correctly 74 cubic inch displacement. They produce 40 lb ft of torque. Even though the 3025 has the same HP rating, the 3025 uses a 100 cubic inch engine that puts out 54 lbs ft of torque. I'm sure you did notice the difference under load.
My fav episode yet! Memories of corn picking with an old ford 6000, dumping into gravity wagons, using hay elevator to fill the corn crib. Great times. Until winter came and you needed a pick to break the solid ice corn cobs apart lol
It's cool to see these compact tractors doing actual farm work instead of just mowing and loader work like you usually see people using them for.
Johnny picking corn on a beautiful day, what could be better. This video shows just what a hobby farm is, working with smaller equipment and smaller fields. Any more than this and you would need a Combine, more land and to work 80 hours a week. I also enjoy the Insurance questions. It's not my direction of need but great information. Come by my house next spring and we will till and plant corn in my front yard.😊
The insurance questions that you have highlighted have been great along with all the other content. I personally may not need any of the information of the provided, but it has been food for thought. I consider your channel a great resource for information. It is difficult to ask questions sometime when you don't know what you don't know. Great job with your content.
I worked for a farmer when I was 12 years old until 18 and every morning before any equipment was used my job was to go over the machine from top to bottom and grease and oil everything on it. He made his machinery last for years and didn’t have to spend booko amounts of money for crazy priced equipment. And made a very good living on this 200 acre farm.
Loved this video. A lot of good memories of helping the neighbors pick their fields.
Brings back memories we would back the wagon up to a JD elevator and unload with sliding cable drawn wall with ratchet style windup device, the Electric motor also changed onto bench grinder paddle pump, table saw etc. Later on grandpa hired out the combining and corn picking, nowadays two hours time gets clean shelled corn no waste that would have taken four days or more with breakdowns just to pick ear corn. Good memories though....
I enjoyed watching the corn picking video. What struck me the most here was the all the weeds. Don’t remember see that in the Minnesota corn fields of my youth. My 9 & 10 year old summers were spent on the farm cultivating corn and soybeans. Interesting video for sure.
I thought it was fun, too. Thanks for showing us what each tractor that was on hand can do. It took me back to the fun day up in Rantoul in late August '21, watching all the great old equipment perform and the demonstrations they did for the crowd.
Great demonstration Tim of all the different series tractors pulling the New Idea picker. My dad used a piece of 5V tin and made an extended chute on the elevator on his to evenly fill the wagon, or you could still use an 8 year old boy to scoop front to back!!! Years ago I tried a New Holland 630 round baler on my 850 John Deere and found that it worked much better with single windrowed hay than a double windrowed. Now you just need an antique Black Hawk sheller to shell all those ears!!! Keep up the good videography!!!
Country Financial Tips are helpful, and while it's obvious it's a sponsored bit, I have no problem whatsoever that you can use this to help fund your channel - Good for you Tim and Family!
Yep, sponsored…supposed to be obvious! We just want to provide useful info.
We used a similar New Idea single row three point hitch corn picker on our farm. It worked really well, though it was a lot of work unloading the wagon into our corn bin. Later we would have to load the corn into the back of our pickup truck to take to the local feed mill to be ground into hog feed.
When we picked ear corn 30+ years ago , we used a 4/5 tine cultivation tool to move heaped ear corn (in wagon or when removing from crib). That was the time we loved working as we got $1 per wagon we unloaded into or out of the crib. $20-25 was big money when you are 10-12 years old!
As long as you're having fun. Anything is worth it. I wanna see the thicker planting attempt. Gotta keep some of the grass down.
Cool seeing the old stuff work!
I used to follow the picker with a horse and a small buck board wagon. We would pick up left over ears of corn and throw them into the buck board. It would be corn for the horse during the winter. Cheers
We used a John Deere 50 to pull our New Idea 2 row picker, seeing that old picker brought back a lot of memory's
That picker is quite a bit older than the one we still use every year on our farm. We planted 60 acres of corn, and so far all of it has been ear picked with the New Idea pull type, and also a 3020 gas with JD 237 mounted picker opening up fields. Within the next couple days, we'll start field shelling with a 1967 model 95 EB and 444 corn head.
It was fun watching the old machine work with the new!
I had a 1941 M. Farmall. I pulled a three bottom 14 in fourth gear all day long. I pulled a 10' International Disc and used a two row New Idea corn picker. All pulled with my M Farmall. It looks to me like you could do as much with that tractor as you are doing with those John Deere. I did have a John Deer grain harvester with its own motor. Did a good job, still, pulled without problems with a 1941 Farmall M. Great tractor and this was in the late 60's through to the early 1980s.
The questions and answers on insurability and the scope of coverage by usage/fequency make sense and were helpful to me. I have purchased a few different business policies over the years in the area of non-profits and I understood that communicating the usage to the insurance broker was paramount in settling any future claims. You don't get ahead by being vague and deceptive to the insurance broker - in fact, it could be a reason for policy cancelation at a time when you really need the policy coverage. Keep it going -
That was awesome seeing the old picker at work again.
On these old New Idea pickers, and others; you want your rear elevator to place product as close to the middle of the wagon as possible. Two ways to achieve this: Change the angle of the elevator so it still clears the front of the wagon and places ears near center; or change the ratio of the speed of the elevator slightly faster so ears are thrown further back on the wagon. The closer you get the ears to the center, the less scooping needed; and momentum and natural jerking of wagon will work the load evenly toward the front and back of the wagon. This comes from decades of experience around pickers. Also, as with modern machines; the width between rollers and strip plates is determined by stalk size, just so stalk easily fits between and not so wide that the cob won't fit. If the cob can fit between the stripper plates, then the rollers will shell the kernels off. On some newer models, they offered and option of cutter knives that almost touched the rollers to sheer weeds and trash off of the rollers; which helped keep rollers cleaner.
We love our 1025r, amazing little tractor 🚜🪵👍🏼🇺🇸
What’s next with the ear corn? Getting the kernels off the ears by hand . This makes the technology of modern 12 and 16 row combines amazing.👍👌🇺🇸
Very cool Tim. Thanks for taking the time to share!
My dad farmed 80 acres from 1953 to 1962 using a 1945 John Deere, and picked corn with a 2 row pull Massey Ferguson picker. The only new items were his 1945 John Deere tractor and a John Deere 2 row pull corn planter. Every other implement was used. You scared me a little when you were handling the corn stalks without gloves. I grabbed a corn stalk with my left hand and sliced my left hand open. Those corn stalks were very sharp.
You guys did a good job.
I like watching the insurance question and answer sessions. It’s a good idea to know what coverage you need in different situations.
Great video. I use a 1966 New Idea one row behind my 2038r. I have also ran it behind a 3020 row crop and a WD Allis. When doing different jobs with the 2038R I often wonder if my Grandpa would have used the new tractor over the WD for certain jobs. This job I am certain he would have chose the new one for. The quietness and the hydrostatic drive make all the difference. I as far as horsepower it doesn’t know it is there and as the wagon fills up the weight is noticeable but I still only need to run in 2 wheel drive. When these came out in 1966 the average yield was almost 90 bushels per acre. It is more than double that now so it is a big job for the picker to keep up with the volume of corn. There is an expert on these up in Green Bay Wisconsin and he told me when I was restoring mine that 1mph was about as fast as it should be pushed with the yields we get today but that is figuring about 30k population.
Awesome. I grew up running a single row AlisChamber and had trailer with scoop board “manual shaving “ it out of trailer into the barn.
Well, the 1025r isn't just for mowing lawns anymore. 😊 Do you still remember when you started out doing the backyard projects? I think you still have a lot of fun with the grapple. You keep proving it's the rear implements that show the versatility of a tractor of any size. I just have a hard time seeing those hills you're talking about though. 🤷♂️ God Bless. Christie you keep doing great work with the camera(s).🌽🍔
Pretty cool watching that old equipment still in operation
That was really cool to watch it pick.
Tim, thank you for another trip down memory lane. A two row corn picker feeding a wagon with those red side boards was my life sixty years ago. Of course, the tractor was not so shiny even if it was green!
I’ve been waiting to see how the yield would be on this. Awesome video and thanks for sharing this. I think it would be worth the while to open pollinate a few rows of those red ears either it being far enough away from other corn or in a controlled environment to see what happens.
I usually skip sponsor spots, and other advertising. However, I find your insurance spots informative and always listen to them.
My neighbor had a New Idea picker, we used to ride in the wagon watching for deer, pheasants etc.
I remember going with my brother to the neighbor's house and my brother and he would shovel the ears of corn out of the neighbor's truck in to the barned though a window into the corn bend with a big scoop shovel. I would pick some up and throw it in the bend by hand I was big enough to do much I just wanted to be with my Brother he was a few years older than me and just wanted to be around him.
Stay safe and God bless you'll. Dan
It’d be nice to get back to the lifestyle of this era
My uncle used to mix a few kernels of red corn into the planter box every year for the fun of seeing the red ones come through at harvest.
I've often wondered how these machines worked, so this as fun to watch. I enjoy listening to the insurance questions and answers, it reminds me that I need to see about getting some. Country Financial isn't in my area and I just haven't reached out to my insurance carrier to see if they offer something for my tractor.
It be nice to see a video at your family’s farm again. Love your videos.
Great to see that new idea pickers still operational can’t wear the old equipment out. Let’s see a sheller go to work now
Fun video Tim and Christy. Love running old implements 👍
Fun to watch. That's a big success in my book. Love to be to grow corn like that 👍
Grandpa always kept a few red ears and hand shelled them. Then he'd put a few red kernels in each box when he planted. I don't know the wife's tale as to why he did it, but it was always fun as a kid collecting the red ears when we ground feed.
That is very awesome!!!!! Thanks for sowing us this. I know I underestimate what the small tractors can do !!!!!
my grandpa had this picker up until the 90's we ran it with a 55hp minneapolis moline. there's clay in the soil base in minnesota and there are pockets that are real soup unless it's the end of july and there hasn't been much rain for a month that even the tough old moline got stuck in numerous times.
4:45 yeah your lack of horse power an be heard in the engine strain. my grandfather said 30-35hp fords struggled with this set up even in winter with frozen ground.
my grandfather ran a til bed flare box for collection tho as it all went into the corn cribs right away with a wagon swap out on the trip back towards the farm.
i love the insurance questions. Although I am not commercially using a tractor...i am digging and using it on my farm. And there are cable lines, and Telephone lines, etc around the property....so I use it to gauge my risk and make sure my agent knows.
I think the roller adjustment timing was just right.....try it for a little and then adjust. Maybe could have done it earlier but need to separate causes of problems, grass, stalks, rollers. So need expereine with each setting.
1025 just doesn't have the mass, frame size, to handle the bigger corn picker. The 5 series was ideally matched in both mass and horsepower.
The insurance questions are great information. Definitely keep doing it!
I don't know if that's a 1957 New Idea picker or not, but my grandfather had one of those when I was a kid. Used to open that center door in the row separator and get down inside there. That was my space ship!!
I know your not a fan of the 3025e but it was really nice to see you use a 3 series. As a 3025e owner I chose the larger frame size with the 25 hp because I will not be mowing with it. As you pointed out the heavier frame with same motor can muscle things around better. Love to see your do more 3 series. Thanks
💥 This was a really fun video to watch! Great to see a corn picker in action. Amazing that Johnny could pull it.
*Keep on tractoring!* 😁👍
I don't care what anyone says that was impressive thanks Larry
The insurance questions are great and very helpful
Plant again next year. What do you have to loose?!? That is a nice looking picker. I hear you are going to be at the convention in Louisville. Travel safe! Take Care, Jason
Gonna see you there?
@@TractorTimewithTim I'd like to go, but tons of projects getting close to deadlines. Maybe next time. Tell Jon hi for me. @A Ritter Bit Will Do
1945 Dad had a black and white pair of mules that pulled the Deering 2 row corn planter. That November (still mule powered) I would play in the wagon flat as Dad husk the ends by hand so Grandpa's John Deere B with a 2 row New Idea corn picker could make the turns picking the field!
Needed a corn fork, not a scoop shovel for ease.
Would do it all over again as many an evening we would have fresh rabbit or pheasant for supper.
Great video! Learning how equipment works is always a curve. Keep Shining! Blessings
The 1025r and the 3025e are both 25 horse, but the 3025 actually has a bigger displacement engine, it has more torque that's why it will feel a little more powerful. The 1025r and 2025r both are higher reving smaller displacement, the 3025 revs lower and I believe is a .3L bigger motor.
Interesting
Fun video! Love to see the capabilities of various tractors with the old equipment.
I picked corn with a new idea corn picker it was a mounted 2 row on a farmall m lot of fun in the rain
Ended up with pneumonia
Had to pull the trks out of the fields with a D2 cat
My favorite job growing up was picking corn with a one row and a 1949 U- Moline. I was about 12 yrs. old.
I started bushhogging with a 1949 u when I was about 9 years old, had a hand clutch, had to get off seat to push brakes. Wish I had those days back. I am 58 now soon to be 59.
On my grandfathers farm my uncles used a picker like that.
That is a New Ides model 300. I bought a used one back in 1972. I paid $900.00 for it back then. I ran it about 3 or 4 years, and then I traded for a New Idea model 330 with a sheller attachment. After that I bought a use IH model 503 combine w/a 4 row corn head.
hey... you'all took like ONE BAG of corn and turned it into a TRAILER full :) CONGRATS!!! :)
*I* would call that a *SUCCESS* !!
When I was a kid on our farm and we had to break four rows by hand to make room for the tractor and picker we didn’t call it a new idea we called it a BAD IDEA!😂😂😂😂😂 actually some good memories thanks. Ps foxtail did and does still sucks
Tim… that’s one implement that I don’t have for my BX23S! I don’t grow corn. I don’t offer corn picking as one of my services…. But, you just opened a whole new business opportunity for me!
Im headed right over to Craigslist and e-bay. Surely someone has a single row picker for sale!
Thanx for the entertaining and informative vid!
Ha!
Pretty awesome from planting to harvest. To see what it takes to farm 🚜 enjoyed very much.
Tim, I would love to see what changes might have been made to this small grow since you've last visited. Larger grow area? Fertilizer? Different cultivator?
He didn’t plant again to my knowledge.
@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks for letting me know.
That was a good bit of corn for a small plot and I do think that the picker worked better on the bigger tractor. Great video btw 👍 very interesting to watch
We want Husk and all on our corn - sometimes be put them on the BBQ and the husk helps protect the kernels from drying out (popcorn) and it steams the corn. We also put them in our tall slow cooking smoker we use for heavy meat blocks. Add veges about the time you have the meat ready. They take less time to cook. What that sugar cane mixed in ?? :-)
No one would use those small tractors when production is the goal. But l like these videos showing how they do in these situations. Nothing wrong with trying it out.
Of course. One would be silly to use a 1025r on a corn picker.
Could get an older/larger tractor for less money.