I got my Doberman on April 13th of this year. Thank GOD your channel exists because you’ve helped out so much. My European boy is 6 months tomorrow and he’s 66 pounds and healthy as could be
Good stuff! Rambo is 14wks @ 33lbs (11wks @ 20lbs). We're still using the breader Purina Tender & Crunchy Puppy Chow and will be adding some Ollie to it soon. He's getting 1.5 cups 4x a day: 6:30, 10:30, 3:30, 8:30. We're very active (1 mile walk x2, outside play, dog socialization play, and training) and he's had no gut issues. Everything is going really well and he's a great companion for our family.
@@carguy0389 pretty much. With his activity level he's eating it all. We're in and outside constantly throughout the day. If he's not napping he's active. We worked up to that food volume as his activity increased a 1/4 cup at a time. If he has a slower day I'll do one cup for meals 2&3. Small meals every 4-5 hours seem to be good for him right now.
@@DobermanPlanet yes Sir he is John. Laying right next to me on the couch sleeping after a full day of action. Your videos had a lot to do with it. Prior to getting him I watched just about your entire library and prepared accordingly. Thanks for all your instructions from your experience.
@@DobermanPlanet It interesting that you said in the 70s a lot of the bad guys would get dobermans you look young but i was a kid then and it was the doberman and german shepherd then in 80s to 90s it switched that the tough guys wanted the pitbulls and now it the Cane Corso it interesting how the bad/tough guys switch the preferred dogs as the decades change.
Our new Doberman pup Odin has made the transition to Ollie and he’s thriving. Thanks for the recommendation John, this is a game changer for me; so easy to get it right and the ongoing support from Ollie is invaluable. This is our third Doberman and we have been down too many roads trying to figure the best plan for keeping our friend healthy. With our last Doberman, Loki, we spent several hours a week cooking whole chickens and turkeys creating what we thought was a perfect diet but, it was time and energy that could have been better spent enjoying the boy. So many lessons from each dog, getting better but still much to learn.
That's great to hear, Rick! Thank you for that positive feedback. You definitely can't beat meals that are vet-established. Hind sight is 20/20! The pre-planned meals definitely do make life easier.
I’ve been feeding Raw for 20 years. I always highly recommend it. If you don’t want to do DIY then buy premade. Freeze dried is a good alternative, but it’s usually very expensive.
No doubt that you've learned SO much in those 20 years, too. Wow! Not many people go all in with raw, but you'd be a great source for people who have questions! Here is an article we did about the raw diet, too with some information we'd gathered from other sources: www.dobermanplanet.com/should-you-be-feeding-your-doberman-raw-meat/
@@DobermanPlanet i’m glad I started it back then and not now. Back then it was small, basic, almost underground. A few people knew about it and there were some articles here and there and a few websites. It was so much simpler back then. I started with premade and then I did DIY and now I do a combination of both. There’s too much conflicting information out there now, too much fear mongering, too much virtue signaling. It’s actually pretty sad but if you can get through all that BS it is 100% worth it for your dogs and cats.
@@nogames8982is your recipe posted anywhere I could find? I'd like to explore this as an option but my biggest fear is accidentally not making it a complete diet and having my pet get sick because I didn't have enough of one vitamin or something. I'd probably feel more confident using a recipe someone else had great luck with for 20 years.
I’ll be getting my first ever Doberman either this fall or upcoming spring (it’s all going to come down to the temperament of each of the puppies as I’m searching for a service dog prospect), definitely going to be coming back to this video that happens, but for now I’m just going to soak up all the knowledge so I don’t go into creating a feeding plan for her (yes, I’m going to be choosing a female) completely blind. Need to be prepared❤
@@DobermanPlanet I have to say, most of what I know about the breed now I’ve learned by watching your videos and checking your website. I was already in love with the breed before, but you made me fall in love with these amazing dogs even harder which I didn’t think could even happen.
I just got a doberman puppy back at the end of June who is currently training to be an SD for my mom. This breed is SO smart but definitely be mindful when temperament testing and dont rush your decision! Out of the 8 pups I could choose from litter I picked from, only 2 were remotely suitable. Very happy with the pup I chose though. Good luck on your SD search 😊 Wishing you the best!
Salmonella is not found in raw but in kibble. I add a great vitamin and other supplements to my human grade raw. It's taylored to each dogs needs. I feed them twice a day. They are extremely healthy. You practice the same protocols as you do when making your own food.
We'd do raw if we weren't crossing the border into the US every week. Our pups are on First Mate (from BC) Large Breed Puppy and active dog formula. High quality ingredients and high energy. Our big guy Hans (10 months @ 94 lbs) cut his own portion down to 4 cups daily from 4.5. Our female is 2.5 cups, but she's 15 months @ 75 lbs. They also get some fresh fruit and veggies from us 😊 Great info John Cheers
Good morning, brother John. I don't know where you are located right now,but one thing that I know is that I'm just truly sick of waiting for my breakthrough, brother So anyways,God bless you, brother John and your awesome family 👩👧👧 keep up the great work that you're doing for the kingdom of Heaven with the encouraging words that you're giving right now 🪽✝️🔥🙏
I also recommend new large breed dog owners to look into "Knuckling". I got a Doberman pup this year and had a big learning curb with knuckling and adjusting food intake due to this.
My rottwiler dog was put down yesterday and I am now sad, it is not my original dog but my dads gf dog and I’ve lived with it since February 2020, no one knows his birthday but he is estimated 8 years old by the time I moved in, he has got to the point of old age were it would just be best if he were put down, he lived his full life and completed it, there was nothing left for him to do but move on yet I just couldn’t let go, the news was sudden and I only had 1 day to spend with him before he would go, during this time I truly realized what the dogs meant to mean and how much I loved them and it is so sad because you can have 10 dogs in your lifetime and that’s a lot of heartbreaks, I’ve seen this dog grow from a good energy older dog into an old man dog so quick and that’s why it’s just so sad to me it’s like I didn’t expect his life to be this quick, this is my first dog death. As of now I am very sad as I reflect on videos and pictures, I made sure to take some before he went, as of now I am not going to get a dog for a while but the rott has a special place in my heart and I don’t think I could get another I feel I’d be replacing the one and only og dog but as of this time I just can’t see myself getting another dog it is to emotional and I don’t want to think about having a little puppy that I go out and buy that will one day die, I still have my little dog who was always with the big dog and I will love him forever
As always, thanks for your videos! Question in re to preventing Bloat: Does it also help to raise their food and water bowls... in order words, not simply place them on the floor? Thanks in advance for your take on this!
Great question! Some recommend it, but studies haven't found it to make a difference. Here is a video John did specifically on how to prevent bloat: ua-cam.com/video/Z5XAOQ8e-SM/v-deo.htmlsi=gVvntHLrarv7Ky4B
Except one detail, this is a very informative and helpful link. Personally, we say no to Purina. Do your research guys. We have a very healthy large and agile 10 month old male European Doberman. He is in an Olympian shape. We mix kibble with Ollie. Not any kibble…..We stay away from corn, peas (peas protein), and soy products. On top of that, we have introduced him slowly to raw bones at young age, while eating them occasionally and ALWAYS with supervision
We need a good trainer, we took in a blue doberman rescue. We have a 2 and a half year old. The rescue we took in is doing good except for a few things. It takes a special trainer to know how to train dobermans. I wish you were closer.
So sorry to hear you're having issues! Here is our training pagewww.dobermanplanet.com/how-to-train-a-doberman/ and if you fill out the interest form here www.dobermanplanet.com/coaching/ then you'll be the first to be notified when coaching sessions become available again. Please reach out to a canine behaviorist near you if the problems persist - they will be able to help with issues.
Every vet definitely has his or her own style of doing different crops. A "medium show crop" to one, may look different than a "medium show crop" to the next vet.
We just got our first dobie at 15wks and unfortunately, she hasn't been socialized at all. She's already showing fear at seeing other dogs out in public. How can we help her get past this so it doesn't get worse as she gets older?
Yes, that's why I said what I did. Had no luck with customizing my choice. Can't find a phone # either. Which I don't like not talking to a human being! 🤷♀️
Hey, Bridget! So sorry you're struggling with that. You can call them at: 844-886-5543. or email them at: caninecare@myollie.com. Their customer service is great and they have many different plans to choose from. Hopefully you're able to connect with someone who can help you through this with that phone number!
Dobermans are not to have peas nor lentils! I've checked with 6 different vet's as well as reach saying these cause DCM ! Unless I find something from a doberman heart specialist that says differently I will stay away from peas & lentils including Ollie's. You can not get Ollie's to make food to customers order & can not talk to anyone about customization!
Crazy comment and not true? LOL Ollie is great with customization! Have you checked their website with questions for customizing foods to your dogs needs? I did and have felt really supported by them when I've had questions, etc.. Wow...interesting comment? LOL
Ollie does a great job with customization for Doberman meal plans and can definitely choose to not get their meals that contain peas or lentils. Hopefully, you're able to find what works best for you! Just to clarify, no causes of DCM have been identified yet in Dobermans. Organizations such as the Doberman Diversity Project are pumping significant time and money into figuring out what DOES cause DCM. They know it's genetic in Dobermans (not diet-induced) but no one has identified the specific genes yet. So I think we should be careful indicating that you know a "cause" of DCM as a lot of scientists are working on that and nothing has been identified yet. Trust me, they're desperate to find that out. I think it's possible you may be confusing the FDA's grain-free food study in dogs that are prone to diet-induced DCM (which are not Dobermans). Here's a great article that could help too. DMC in Dobermans Simplified: www.dobermanplanet.com/doberman-dilated-cardiomyopathy/ If you ever see any specific studies that you believe show they have identified a specific cause of DCM in Dobermans I'd LOVE to see it! It would be truly ground-breaking research and I'd love to get a link to read it! Thanks so much for caring so deeply about this breed!
Such an interesting take on that! How long have you been feeding raw? Would love to hear some of the positive changes you've seen in your pup. It's good for others to share what works for them so that others can learn pros and cons!
There was a poll awhile back of respected Doberman owners and those involved in the Doberman world (showing, breeding, competition , etc) and Purina was the most widely used by them in terms of kibble. A lot of truly happy Doberman owners using it! 👍 Maybe give it a second look? You can read more about why we came to the conclusion of recommending Purina for the kibble choice at www.dobermanplanet.com/recommended-products/food-treats/
@DobermanPlanet @brucestack1658 I do kinda agree with this person. It's not exactly about Purina itself. It's about the corporation who owns it which is nestle. I stay away from nestle products in general. Theres been having major issues with a lot of their stuff. Not only what happened with their dog food not too long ago which almost killed our standard poodle when that happened because she was on it. But people need to watch out for certain corporations and what they own. Dogs can handle certain things compared to humans but still when a corporation has issues with multiple of their companies. Not good.
I’ll have to agree. Most popular doesn’t mean it’s good. Purina is popular because it’s cheap. It’s cheap because it’s made with the cheapest ingredients with the cheapest processing methods. Just because you haven’t seen immediate problems, it doesn’t mean it’s not going to cause illness down the road. It’s like some people eat McDonald’s everyday and feel fine, but it will take years before they realize what it did to them.
I got my Doberman on April 13th of this year. Thank GOD your channel exists because you’ve helped out so much. My European boy is 6 months tomorrow and he’s 66 pounds and healthy as could be
oh thats my birthday!
That's great to hear! So glad the channel has helped you out so much. Congratulations on your new Doberman!
Good stuff! Rambo is 14wks @ 33lbs (11wks @ 20lbs). We're still using the breader Purina Tender & Crunchy Puppy Chow and will be adding some Ollie to it soon. He's getting 1.5 cups 4x a day: 6:30, 10:30, 3:30, 8:30. We're very active (1 mile walk x2, outside play, dog socialization play, and training) and he's had no gut issues. Everything is going really well and he's a great companion for our family.
6 cups a day? Damn
@@carguy0389 pretty much. With his activity level he's eating it all. We're in and outside constantly throughout the day. If he's not napping he's active. We worked up to that food volume as his activity increased a 1/4 cup at a time. If he has a slower day I'll do one cup for meals 2&3. Small meals every 4-5 hours seem to be good for him right now.
It sounds like he is living the best life!!
@@DobermanPlanet yes Sir he is John. Laying right next to me on the couch sleeping after a full day of action. Your videos had a lot to do with it. Prior to getting him I watched just about your entire library and prepared accordingly. Thanks for all your instructions from your experience.
Thanks!
Thanks for checking out my new one, Guru!
@@DobermanPlanet It interesting that you said in the 70s a lot of the bad guys would get dobermans you look young but i was a kid then and it was the doberman and german shepherd then in 80s to 90s it switched that the tough guys wanted the pitbulls and now it the Cane Corso it interesting how the bad/tough guys switch the preferred dogs as the decades change.
Thank you for uploading this video! Just got my doberman a week ago.. Needed this video.
So glad it was useful for you! Really appreciate it!
I just go my Doberman 2 weeks ago, after watching your channel for 2 months. I used to have one growing up, I just never thought of getting another.
Just found your channel and we're picking up our first dobie pup on Tuesday 😁
Yay! Congratulations! I'm so excited for you!
Our new Doberman pup Odin has made the transition to Ollie and he’s thriving. Thanks for the recommendation John, this is a game changer for me; so easy to get it right and the ongoing support from Ollie is invaluable. This is our third Doberman and we have been down too many roads trying to figure the best plan for keeping our friend healthy. With our last Doberman, Loki, we spent several hours a week cooking whole chickens and turkeys creating what we thought was a perfect diet but, it was time and energy that could have been better spent enjoying the boy. So many lessons from each dog, getting better but still much to learn.
That's great to hear, Rick! Thank you for that positive feedback. You definitely can't beat meals that are vet-established. Hind sight is 20/20! The pre-planned meals definitely do make life easier.
I’ve been feeding Raw for 20 years. I always highly recommend it. If you don’t want to do DIY then buy premade. Freeze dried is a good alternative, but it’s usually very expensive.
No doubt that you've learned SO much in those 20 years, too. Wow! Not many people go all in with raw, but you'd be a great source for people who have questions! Here is an article we did about the raw diet, too with some information we'd gathered from other sources: www.dobermanplanet.com/should-you-be-feeding-your-doberman-raw-meat/
@@DobermanPlanet i’m glad I started it back then and not now. Back then it was small, basic, almost underground. A few people knew about it and there were some articles here and there and a few websites. It was so much simpler back then. I started with premade and then I did DIY and now I do a combination of both. There’s too much conflicting information out there now, too much fear mongering, too much virtue signaling. It’s actually pretty sad but if you can get through all that BS it is 100% worth it for your dogs and cats.
@@nogames8982is your recipe posted anywhere I could find? I'd like to explore this as an option but my biggest fear is accidentally not making it a complete diet and having my pet get sick because I didn't have enough of one vitamin or something. I'd probably feel more confident using a recipe someone else had great luck with for 20 years.
I’ll be getting my first ever Doberman either this fall or upcoming spring (it’s all going to come down to the temperament of each of the puppies as I’m searching for a service dog prospect), definitely going to be coming back to this video that happens, but for now I’m just going to soak up all the knowledge so I don’t go into creating a feeding plan for her (yes, I’m going to be choosing a female) completely blind. Need to be prepared❤
Great idea! Kudos to you for being prepared!
@@DobermanPlanet I have to say, most of what I know about the breed now I’ve learned by watching your videos and checking your website. I was already in love with the breed before, but you made me fall in love with these amazing dogs even harder which I didn’t think could even happen.
I just got a doberman puppy back at the end of June who is currently training to be an SD for my mom. This breed is SO smart but definitely be mindful when temperament testing and dont rush your decision! Out of the 8 pups I could choose from litter I picked from, only 2 were remotely suitable. Very happy with the pup I chose though. Good luck on your SD search 😊 Wishing you the best!
Salmonella is not found in raw but in kibble. I add a great vitamin and other supplements to my human grade raw. It's taylored to each dogs needs. I feed them twice a day. They are extremely healthy. You practice the same protocols as you do when making your own food.
This!
Excellent info as usual. I use a combo of Nulo and Honest Kitchen 3 times a day, 6,12,6 for our 14 week old Dobie. Our girl is such a love bug. Thx
Thank you so much! She sounds like a wonderful well-fed companion!
Great guidance! One more mention...if you have a particularly precocious Doberman and you feed kibble, store it somewhere they cannot get to it.
Thank you for mentioning this, Sheilah!
We'd do raw if we weren't crossing the border into the US every week. Our pups are on First Mate (from BC) Large Breed Puppy and active dog formula. High quality ingredients and high energy. Our big guy Hans (10 months @ 94 lbs) cut his own portion down to 4 cups daily from 4.5.
Our female is 2.5 cups, but she's 15 months @ 75 lbs.
They also get some fresh fruit and veggies from us 😊
Great info John
Cheers
Great to hear your input!! Love seeing how different dogs do well with different diets. Owners know what is best for their dog.
Good morning, brother John. I don't know where you are located right now,but one thing that I know is that I'm just truly sick of waiting for my breakthrough, brother
So anyways,God bless you, brother John and your awesome family 👩👧👧 keep up the great work that you're doing for the kingdom of Heaven with the encouraging words that you're giving right now 🪽✝️🔥🙏
So sorry to hear that you're struggling right now, but hope these videos can be of encouragement to you in this difficult time!
@DobermanPlanet yeah brother I find it relaxing to watch the dobermans
Thank you for your work and for the great video
Thank you, Cathy!! Love hearing from you each week. Hope your pack is doing well!
I also recommend new large breed dog owners to look into "Knuckling". I got a Doberman pup this year and had a big learning curb with knuckling and adjusting food intake due to this.
My rottwiler dog was put down yesterday and I am now sad, it is not my original dog but my dads gf dog and I’ve lived with it since February 2020, no one knows his birthday but he is estimated 8 years old by the time I moved in, he has got to the point of old age were it would just be best if he were put down, he lived his full life and completed it, there was nothing left for him to do but move on yet I just couldn’t let go, the news was sudden and I only had 1 day to spend with him before he would go, during this time I truly realized what the dogs meant to mean and how much I loved them and it is so sad because you can have 10 dogs in your lifetime and that’s a lot of heartbreaks, I’ve seen this dog grow from a good energy older dog into an old man dog so quick and that’s why it’s just so sad to me it’s like I didn’t expect his life to be this quick, this is my first dog death. As of now I am very sad as I reflect on videos and pictures, I made sure to take some before he went, as of now I am not going to get a dog for a while but the rott has a special place in my heart and I don’t think I could get another I feel I’d be replacing the one and only og dog but as of this time I just can’t see myself getting another dog it is to emotional and I don’t want to think about having a little puppy that I go out and buy that will one day die, I still have my little dog who was always with the big dog and I will love him forever
About to get my third dobermann fur baby - I trust my vet to point me in the right every time but I have a really decent vet. ❤
That's great you can rely on your vet for help like that! Congratulations on bringing your new pup home soon!
As always, thanks for your videos! Question in re to preventing Bloat: Does it also help to raise their food and water bowls... in order words, not simply place them on the floor? Thanks in advance for your take on this!
Great question! Some recommend it, but studies haven't found it to make a difference. Here is a video John did specifically on how to prevent bloat: ua-cam.com/video/Z5XAOQ8e-SM/v-deo.htmlsi=gVvntHLrarv7Ky4B
Except one detail, this is a very informative and helpful link.
Personally, we say no to Purina. Do your research guys.
We have a very healthy large and agile 10 month old male European Doberman. He is in an Olympian shape. We mix kibble with Ollie. Not any kibble…..We stay away from corn, peas (peas protein), and soy products. On top of that, we have introduced him slowly to raw bones at young age, while eating them occasionally and ALWAYS with supervision
We need a good trainer, we took in a blue doberman rescue. We have a 2 and a half year old. The rescue we took in is doing good except for a few things. It takes a special trainer to know how to train dobermans. I wish you were closer.
So sorry to hear you're having issues! Here is our training pagewww.dobermanplanet.com/how-to-train-a-doberman/ and if you fill out the interest form here www.dobermanplanet.com/coaching/ then you'll be the first to be notified when coaching sessions become available again. Please reach out to a canine behaviorist near you if the problems persist - they will be able to help with issues.
Help with our Doberman chewing up everything!
Pro Plan Focus line was discontinued years ago
Go with pre made raw and whole food treats. ❤
Do breeders post embark results on their Dobermans on websites?
Do you still recommend purina pro plan after the formula changed?
My previous dogs have been rescues, planning a dobie purchase in the future. How do I find and vet a breeder?
Any recommendations on where to find a European puppy? And I want to be able to see and visit.
I like that crop. It’s hard finding Dobermans with a good looking crop like that, a lot swoop in too much imo
Every vet definitely has his or her own style of doing different crops. A "medium show crop" to one, may look different than a "medium show crop" to the next vet.
How do you kennel train your Doberman puppy while having another dog in the house?
Hi i am from Thailand where ollie does not ship here. Are there any alternatives?
I'd definitely talk to a canine nutritionist if possible about what fresh home-cooked meals you can make at home. Could be great if you do it right!
We just got our first dobie at 15wks and unfortunately, she hasn't been socialized at all. She's already showing fear at seeing other dogs out in public. How can we help her get past this so it doesn't get worse as she gets older?
Please help i have a condition o my doberman 7 months no vet care find what is it please help how can i send u some videos to see 😢
Yes, that's why I said what I did. Had no luck with customizing my choice. Can't find a phone # either. Which I don't like not talking to a human being! 🤷♀️
Hey, Bridget! So sorry you're struggling with that. You can call them at: 844-886-5543. or email them at: caninecare@myollie.com. Their customer service is great and they have many different plans to choose from. Hopefully you're able to connect with someone who can help you through this with that phone number!
My doberman just turned 8 weeks do they know when to stop eating? because he eats nonstop
Just portion out his meals like discussed in this video. Spread out meals into smaller portions and he'll be doing well!
Can a puppy be potty trained without staying in a cage?
My Doberman puppy is 12 weeks, than you for your video: "Feeding Your New Doberman Puppy: When, Where, What, and How Much"
That's great! This video came at the PERFECT time for you, then!
Like it me
Dobermans are not to have peas nor lentils! I've checked with 6 different vet's as well as reach saying these cause DCM ! Unless I find something from a doberman heart specialist that says differently I will stay away from peas & lentils including Ollie's. You can not get Ollie's to make food to customers order & can not talk to anyone about customization!
Crazy comment and not true? LOL Ollie is great with customization! Have you checked their website with questions for customizing foods to your dogs needs? I did and have felt really supported by them when I've had questions, etc.. Wow...interesting comment? LOL
Ollie does a great job with customization for Doberman meal plans and can definitely choose to not get their meals that contain peas or lentils. Hopefully, you're able to find what works best for you! Just to clarify, no causes of DCM have been identified yet in Dobermans. Organizations such as the Doberman Diversity Project are pumping significant time and money into figuring out what DOES cause DCM. They know it's genetic in Dobermans (not diet-induced) but no one has identified the specific genes yet. So I think we should be careful indicating that you know a "cause" of DCM as a lot of scientists are working on that and nothing has been identified yet. Trust me, they're desperate to find that out. I think it's possible you may be confusing the FDA's grain-free food study in dogs that are prone to diet-induced DCM (which are not Dobermans). Here's a great article that could help too. DMC in Dobermans Simplified: www.dobermanplanet.com/doberman-dilated-cardiomyopathy/
If you ever see any specific studies that you believe show they have identified a specific cause of DCM in Dobermans I'd LOVE to see it! It would be truly ground-breaking research and I'd love to get a link to read it! Thanks so much for caring so deeply about this breed!
Soy racista con los perros?
Raw feeding all the way and dont go to your vet for nutritional advice! Kibble is like giving ypur dog McDonald's every day...please!
Such an interesting take on that! How long have you been feeding raw? Would love to hear some of the positive changes you've seen in your pup. It's good for others to share what works for them so that others can learn pros and cons!
Lost respect Purina has to be one of the worst dog foods
All my dogs are super healthy all they eat is purina.
There was a poll awhile back of respected Doberman owners and those involved in the Doberman world (showing, breeding, competition , etc) and Purina was the most widely used by them in terms of kibble. A lot of truly happy Doberman owners using it! 👍 Maybe give it a second look? You can read more about why we came to the conclusion of recommending Purina for the kibble choice at www.dobermanplanet.com/recommended-products/food-treats/
@@DobermanPlanet I love how you handled this comment.
@DobermanPlanet @brucestack1658 I do kinda agree with this person. It's not exactly about Purina itself. It's about the corporation who owns it which is nestle. I stay away from nestle products in general. Theres been having major issues with a lot of their stuff. Not only what happened with their dog food not too long ago which almost killed our standard poodle when that happened because she was on it. But people need to watch out for certain corporations and what they own. Dogs can handle certain things compared to humans but still when a corporation has issues with multiple of their companies. Not good.
I’ll have to agree. Most popular doesn’t mean it’s good. Purina is popular because it’s cheap. It’s cheap because it’s made with the cheapest ingredients with the cheapest processing methods. Just because you haven’t seen immediate problems, it doesn’t mean it’s not going to cause illness down the road. It’s like some people eat McDonald’s everyday and feel fine, but it will take years before they realize what it did to them.