KDE on the Linux E-INK Tablet!
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Just a small note, the Microsoft Office formats ending with x (.docx, etc) are open formats. It's just that Microsoft does some weird stuff with them, which makes compatibility hard. The formats are just zips containing xml files, though.
"open" formats, just open enough to say they're open but not much else. The specs for the ooxml format office uses are very long and complicated (thousands of pages) ensuring Microsoft stay undisputed on compatibility with their "open" "standard".
@tony You're moving the bar, though. Microsoft follows the same spec. Just because the format is shit, it doesn't make it less open.
@@DanCojocaru2000 it's disingenuous to refer to it as open alongside other actually open projects. So call it what it is: narrow. It ain't technically closed, but sure as hell ain't open
@@tonnylinsstill better than old .doc format which was binary
I would love a "Knote" that would do RT OCR (Real Time Optical Character Recognition), also with support for dictation (voice to text) and reading (text to voice) multilingual.
Also pdf editing features of xournal
That's neat as hell. It would be awesome if this could be repurposed for classrooms.
Yes! Thanks Nicco! gogogo pine64! e-ink tablets ftw!
I’d get one when it reaches General availability.
Jeez, KDE dev hands is so heavy, that we can see some light bending while traveling from e-ink screen to camera. Thanks for a hard work!
Hehe I don't understand why my camera does that, very annoying
@@niccoloveslinux It looks like hyper-aggressive motion stabilization. Try turning that down or off.
@@voxelfusion9894 or maybe video codec issues it thinks that this thin black lines are not important near hand and could be removed
I would love to see more community support for this device! I find it very interesting, so it is a pity that they have cut production until they have an ISO ready. I am willing to support this cause, which platform takes the least percentage of the donations?
Frankly, I believe individual apps (or their toolkits) need to support e-ink output to integrate well.
Like, currently everything is built around RGB framebuffers. This makes no sense on this device and trying to shoehorn it in will yield subpart results.
(though it may be the fastest way to get _some_ results)
Greyscale framebuffers may be a good solution and allow apps to adjust accordingly when only this limited color palette is available, but frankly it's possible that the best results can only be achieved by giving apps (toolkits) control over not pixel-based framebuffers, but something better reflecting the underlying hardware.
I don't know how compatible all of this would be with the current state of DRI tho
Icon themes & fonts can already be morphed to be compatible with grayscale framebuffers. Common toolkits such as GTK & QT can have support for this, since they support themes. For other custom-styled graphics, the RGB colours need to be converted to grayscale.
In dark mode, some menus (as Libre Office) do not draw white over black, and instead draw black over very dark gray, being very difficult to use. I think that it can be fixed as you are going to work dark gray themes.
5:27 Bakemonogatari, huh 👀👀
Big fan here
I was actually looking for a device like this a bunch of years ago for my sister.
Why? She was going to teach at an Ethiopian university and wanted something that seldom needed a charge and that was usable in strong sunlight. Also computers are a necessary evil to her so it should just work, no fiddling around required.
So with that in mind and my own preferences as one that has fiddled with computers since the 80's some points that I think are key to a device like this:
Battery life.
Readability in both low and high light.
Very basic interface, it needs to be as easy to use as a paper (note)book.
Should work without any issues if no network available but also take advantage of one.
At least viewers for "all the formats" (while I'm strongly argument for open document formats we're not in control of what others give us but we still need to access their files.)
Easy to choose between different safety modes (example: at home=unlocked to public=quick lock with complex password).
A clever library function for books. "One source to find them all." Personally I don't care what format a document is, just let me find it, read and make notes. Very good if the library function can work with file name, meta data and personal notes about the book/file. Optional synchronisation of said library, perhaps with a "bring these books/collections"
I will keep an eye on this device for when it comes to market, a real Linux is much more attractive to me then crippled (and Google controlled) Android devices. (Still miss my Maemo/MeeGo N900, without a doubt best mobile device I've used.)
I've hear the remarkable tablet is great for people who aren't technical
I wish it would be used for teaching, cuz currently in Poland you have to carry 20kg bag with all books and uhh, you could just instead take something like this and it wouldn't break our backbones
You should write an article about this on the Arch Wiki so that others can follow your work.
I was also exited when I saw the device using an Android E-Ink device currently. But I think it was 2 years too early as currently color e-ink is getting available more and more and would make Linux more usable right away.
I'd love seeing you support the Plasma Mobile development instead of making "yet another plasma shell" - but I understand that if the use cases don't fit, they don't fit. I guess if you won't, I'll have to get off my lazy butt and start learning some Qt and Kirigami to help my hopefully future mobile OS out :)
While you got the device, it could be useful to have some kind of "e-ink simulation" nested compositor (or, kwin fork) for app developers and design "team".
Hope this will be available soon, seems like an interesting replacement for my old sony ereader which can also double as a (linux) tablet
Pretty cool project. Have fun! Hope it works out to something awesome.
In the future, I'm looking forward to dualscreen tablets - E-ink sucks for a tablet - it's too slow for scrolling, video, and it doesn't do colour - so a lot is lost... but it's certainly wonderful for reading, making notes, and many other tasks...
Passing the pen input through USB gadget mode would be a massive cheat imo. The eInk could be showing a grid/ static img (why not a synced layer from Krita?) perhaps?
I haven't seen anything similar on the market but it would be a cool concept
Monogatari series 😍
Even the animation has a lot of reading, at least the first season, they adapted a bit better later but there is tons of monologue, definitely meant for reading...
I would stay away from KDE, who needs a compositor with this type of display? I can think of a gazillion better alternatives. Maybe you can still disable all the animations and smoothness of plasma but meh, its too much bloat for this.
Thanks for your work!
Can you please do more videos on this topic ?
Thanks again and Keep Up The Good Work!
which donation method is the best (ie you get the largest percentage of)
Paypal/Ko-fi
Calibre include a nice document reader (epub). It supports a variety of features such as text-to-speech, annotations, and bookmarking.
I hope this project stays alive and begins to thrive. The other options for "e-notebooks" are grossly expensive.
Plasma-ink is an already existing project that may be worth looking into. The source is on invent and there is a matrix room on the KDE server. I’m not sure that there is much development on the project at the moment but may be worth looking at what has already been done
I am very interested in buying this device to use Zotero, and read all my PDF papers with it.
Nice review, thanks.
But implementing epub reader for e-reader in js... Why? 😦
1:24 cocomelon lol
xD
what is that video blurring around your hand when your hand moves in in front of the tablet? Is it just me? Is my hardware broken lmao
Nice video!
This'll be interesting, also first I'd heard about arianna, but a decent epub reader for KDE would be great as well!
Do you think plasma mobile might working better? Since it is a tablet
The interface you show is the same as the french model Bookeen Notéa
How is the screen? It's "paper like" or there is glass over it?
New thumbnails look really good so far.
We need an update about the Pine Note!
I think i'm gonna get a pinenote soon.
Thank you for the review and buona fortuna con il corso di italiano, i guess?
in che senso "il corso di italiano"?
see you first time, money go out :)
Do your fellow students know of your KDE development?
Uhm, not really
this tech in a 2-in-1 / yoga / netbook-size laptop format would be my ultimate device
also the refresh rate distortion from 9:15 on looks rad as hell imo 😊
Colour potential?
How's the battery life? Eink should be a great power savior, if not refreshed too often
Valerio Lundini 😎
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I use KDE, so here is some money as a token of my gratitude for all your work
Bella fratello
Ah magisk, Root always feels naiseeeee.
This is amazing, I actually have wanted it a E-ink tablet for long ago
Its the best for reading text. Just stay away from things that keep updating the screen like videos or desktop animations...
going to get one soon
Pog video mate!
Nice
Its worth trying the DOCs tab. DocX has been the standard since 2007 and is an open format. Not proprietary to Microsoft. Its OpenOffice XML.
Moved from KDE To Gnome for my 2 in1. KDE just isn't complete for a touch tablet. Coming with no default touch keyboard is just dumb, maliit keyboard is buggy at best. Fedora Gnome just worked out fo the box.