Veteran Colonies - Rome's Soldier Cities DOCUMENTARY

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    We finish our series on the career of a Roman soldier by exploring tha last chapter of a Legionary's life, retirement. This was a process which generally began in the last 5 years of their service, when a soldier was officially designated as an Evocatus. During this time they would be relieved of most labor tasks and kept in reserve in battle. Yet such men still played an important role in training up the army and preserving its customs.
    Our documentary then covers the different means of discharge along with their respective rights and exemptions. We finally look to the cash and land bonuses which were doled out to soldiers upon their departure from the legions. This often coincided with the construction of a new Veteran Colony. We cover their history and construction.
    Part 1 - Joining the Army ( • How to Join the Roman ... )
    Part 2 - Basic Training ( • What Was Roman Army Ba... )
    Part 3 - Pay and Promotion ( • How Did Roman Soldiers... )
    Part 4 - Medals of Honor ( • Roman Medals of Honor ... )
    Timestamps:
    00:00 Intro
    02:19 Terms of Service
    04:26 Chances of Survival
    05:46 Forms of Discharge
    07:36 Retirement Process
    08:37 Rewards of Service
    11:01 Veteran Colonies
    13:21 Building a Colony
    16:21 Life in a Colony
    17:32 Outro
    Credits
    Research = Chris Das Neves
    Script = Invicta
    Narration = Guy Michaels
    Reenactment = Imperium Romanum ( / @imperiumromanumyt , Veters Milites
    #history
    #rome
    #documentary

КОМЕНТАРІ • 372

  • @InvictaHistory
    @InvictaHistory  3 місяці тому +32

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    • @mfulan7548
      @mfulan7548 3 місяці тому +1

      Where are the sources for information on your video? Documentary without citing any sources in the description?

    • @emperor-thesenate-palpatin5954
      @emperor-thesenate-palpatin5954 3 місяці тому

      duck raid poop lagends

    • @mfulan7548
      @mfulan7548 3 місяці тому

      Incompetent channel

    • @sproge2142
      @sproge2142 3 місяці тому

      Really disappointed in this one only talking about the founding of the cities. There are some very pretty important questions that are have been unanswered that might warrant a follow up video focusing on the actual day to day life in these colonies, as this video only covered the founding on said cities. Did the farmers live in the city or on their land? How did they get their farming equipment? Where was the equipment and draft animals kept? How did slave labour factor in? What did they do with their yields? etc etc.

    • @mfulan7548
      @mfulan7548 3 місяці тому

      Incompetent channel, meh

  • @larson0014
    @larson0014 3 місяці тому +218

    i recall Caesar speaking about these retirees after being a victim of pirates in Africa as a young man, Caesar is said to have banded together with them to take back his ship and rewarding them for their continued service

    • @b1laxson
      @b1laxson 3 місяці тому

      I have an image of modern retelling where a rich Congressman washes up ashore in the south and asks the red neck veterans if they "wanna do some more shootin?"

    • @Xazamas
      @Xazamas 3 місяці тому +17

      The army that defeated Boudicca had many retiree colonists. Governor Suetonius had emergency mobilized every veteran who could still hold a sword and march. (According to a Historia Civilis video.)

  • @marcobonesi6794
    @marcobonesi6794 3 місяці тому +337

    many towns here in italy were founded as veteran colonies. Lucca,my hometown, became a real city as a veteran colony for the latin citizens (the initial auxiliaries in roman history). In fact you can still see the roman division of the roads in the city centre.

    • @tonycj7860
      @tonycj7860 3 місяці тому +18

      I bet there is so much history all around you.
      It would be great to be able to trace your roots back to one of those legionaries.

    • @theflame5919
      @theflame5919 3 місяці тому

      ​@@tonycj7860 It's probably impossible to trace that far back, to a particular individual. My self from a very old family. Prior to the move to what is now Russia, our family lived in Thessaloniki, from as far back as 10th century. Most of that history is lost, or very obscure. Prior to that, we supposedly lived in Antioch, and the family itself is believed to be some of the Macedonian colonists, who moved to Syria, as Seleucid Empire was established. We have no idea what we where doing during the Imperial era. It's very plausible someone served in the legions, maybe more then once. In the Byzantine Empire, our family had much to do with the military, tradition which was maintained, even after he fall and move to Russia. Given how things worked in the Empire, our residence in Thessaloniki (key city in Byzantine Empire, together with Nicomedia and Lyssia), probably had some kind of a military carrier in the ancient Empire. Everything was based on legacy and previous titles, so, it's a good guess, giving what we do know. But the Imperial era, is basically blank. There are not that many families what can trace back to 10th century Byzantium, or just 10th century, anywhere. Suffice to say, if you are a European, you probably have Roman genetics somewhere.

    • @threestepssideways1202
      @threestepssideways1202 3 місяці тому +19

      My home in England was once a veteran colony, that still has echo's in it's name. Lindum Colonia, became over time the city of Lincoln.

    • @michaelturner5050
      @michaelturner5050 3 місяці тому

      Sorry bro

    • @gustavovillegas5909
      @gustavovillegas5909 3 місяці тому +1

      Lucca! La città più bella che abbia mai visto!

  • @thijshagenbeek8853
    @thijshagenbeek8853 3 місяці тому +97

    The Legions where small communities unto themselves. Filled with experienced workers. These retired men brought ofthen world wide experience, cultural benefits and knowledge with them. Added that they where veteran and seasoned Legionaries used to a hard life. You could not ask for a better nucleus to start a settlement around.

  • @pendantblade6361
    @pendantblade6361 3 місяці тому +107

    The reenactment is probably the coolest thing in these videos. Absolutely gorgeous armors and clothes.

    • @davidbecker3440
      @davidbecker3440 3 місяці тому +8

      Not just the armor and weapons. It always pleases me when people from historical eras are portrayed as people behaving normally, as they probably were, instead of as mobbing and constantly insulting idiots or primitive, constantly drunk thugs. Many historical series tend to emphasize the negative aspects of human behavior, and particularly portray people from the Middle Ages or antiquity as characters who are incapable of being social, compassionate and benevolent. Without these skills, halfway stable societies would never have been possible.

    • @helmort
      @helmort Місяць тому

      They're a group from the Netherlands with their own channel. Trust me, they're amazing. When I watched this combo with the Invicta channel voice, I was simply ecstatic, like crazy! Seriously, both of them did it perfectly - better than the BBC!

    • @kaizokujimbei143
      @kaizokujimbei143 22 дні тому

      @@davidbecker3440 It's because Hollyweird is owned by people who h~a~t~e the west. They wear small hats and they love money above all else.

  • @kevlarburrito6693
    @kevlarburrito6693 3 місяці тому +30

    I wish this was still a common practice. So many veterans struggle after their term of service. Having something to come back to would mitigate a lot of that.

    • @alexiel4406
      @alexiel4406 3 місяці тому +15

      plenty of land in the US too. Imagine a town being founded by vets and their families out in rural Nebraska or something. I would move there

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft 3 місяці тому +2

      The vast majority of veterans in the US work after their service and benefited from that experience.

    • @chibidakis1
      @chibidakis1 2 місяці тому +2

      Possible for future space colonies 🤔

    • @xxjr8axx
      @xxjr8axx 2 місяці тому +2

      @@alexiel4406 Why would a veteran colony in Nebraska be any different then a normal town in Nebraska?

    • @CubeInspector
      @CubeInspector Місяць тому

      First the US Army would have to not PCS you every 3 years.

  • @NvyB
    @NvyB 3 місяці тому +77

    As a U.S. Navy Veteran; our discharge is the same as Rome but you get compensated for percentage of disability and free healthcare for life.
    Free dental is only granted for those that are 100% disabled.
    Health care is hit and miss; took me 5 months just to be seen by a doctor because they were under-maned at the VA due to
    the doctors there went to specialization which paid way more money; instead of being a general practitioners.
    VA Home loan for Veterans; no money down needed.
    There are also states that exempt veterans that are 100% disabled from property tax, DMV registration fees, and other exemptions state by state.
    They are doing more and more to help the older generations of Veterans like those in the Vietnam war; those that are still alive and did not
    pass from agent orange or other mental/physical illnesses associated with that conflict.
    Depleted uranium during the Gulf War.
    Burn pits in Iraq.
    Dwight Eisenhower warned us about the military industrial complex On Jan. 17, 1961.

    • @johnh.2340
      @johnh.2340 3 місяці тому +3

      Yeah Bro, definitely hit and miss for the VA portion. For the other guys who are reading this, military retirees have Tricare Standard, Tricare Prime and Tricare Prime Oversees. We still have an annual payment, but they are really good rates (single and family rates). Around the age of 65, we have to enroll in Medicare parts A and B (monthly payments, damn) and then our Tricare for Life kicks in with no annual premiums as we had with the other Tricare options.

    • @HD-mp6yy
      @HD-mp6yy 3 місяці тому +2

      You also don’t serve for 20 years

    • @johnh.2340
      @johnh.2340 3 місяці тому +2

      @HD-mp6yy Could you clarify your comment on not serving twenty years, please? Are you referring to military veterans, or military retirees? As a military retiree, if you would like to talk about the High Three program, the older Redux program, then let me know. The blended retirement program is in effect now and I'd like to know the details of that. In regard to Veterans, anyone who completed at least one enlistment contract (typically 4 years, or six years for in depth technical programs, i.e. navy nuke, etc.), or six to eight years of their commission as an officer, with an Honorable discharge is considered a Veteran.

    • @paleposter
      @paleposter 3 місяці тому

      too right

    • @gussampson5029
      @gussampson5029 3 місяці тому +2

      They should give veterans land in Mexico so we can slowly absorb it into the Union. All the Mexicans are here already so we might as well take the land too.

  • @daniell1483
    @daniell1483 3 місяці тому +27

    From the US, one side of my family has a strong tradition of military service. I can't help but see the parallels between modern military service and Roman military service. This strong sense of tradition ensured that one generation after another, service in the military was seen as a win for everybody. The state gets a body of loyal, educated soldiers who have kids who themselves serve as well, and so long as there are lands to conquer and settle, there will always be a strong incentive to spread the Roman way of life.

  • @apudieboer3654
    @apudieboer3654 3 місяці тому +420

    Did veterans who got land know how to farm it or get others to work their land?

    • @fuferito
      @fuferito 3 місяці тому +238

      Depends if they were able to put away enough savings during military service to buy slaves to put to work.

    • @tadeuszsa8314
      @tadeuszsa8314 3 місяці тому +316

      Most of them were from peasant families so they would know how to cultivate the land.

    • @lohema7827
      @lohema7827 3 місяці тому +197

      I guess it depends. After years of pay and pillage some legionnaries would have bought a slave or two.
      But slaves were expensive, both to aquire and maintain, so most low ranked soldiers (who had almost nothing saved due to frequent gambling and hyperinflation of the denarius) would have worked the land themselves (this is further evidenced by the aparent rise in crop failures in Italy during the early years of Augustus, after disbanding Caesar's legions and giving them plots of land near Rome).

    • @johnh.2340
      @johnh.2340 3 місяці тому +49

      Never too late to learn how to work the land.

    • @ajkulac9895
      @ajkulac9895 3 місяці тому +5

      Slaves worked the land

  • @nicholasshaler7442
    @nicholasshaler7442 3 місяці тому +35

    Love the Rome: Total War soundtrack in the background.

  • @syndicalist-0
    @syndicalist-0 3 місяці тому +29

    I really wish i could have seen this. The sense of community must have been incredible. We lack that today i think.

    • @alexiel4406
      @alexiel4406 3 місяці тому

      There's a few groups online for military members to stick together, usually based on the region. I know some vets that have a group like this in my home town and they help each other out for just about anything from simple advice to home repair and financial assistance. When the gov and the VA fails to provide for those that sacrifice and serve then its on us to stick together. Sadly like you said we do lack the complete support and community that Rome had for its Vets

  • @BobSmith-dk8nw
    @BobSmith-dk8nw 3 місяці тому +16

    One thing about these Veteran Colonies - was that these guys could all rise up and form a military unit if there was a threat to the Colony. Bandits and such would likely be making a mistake to trouble a Colony made up of people who'd spent their lives killing people.
    .

    • @Un4rceable
      @Un4rceable 3 місяці тому +5

      I’m pretty sure that’s how the Romanias survived. A mountain range plus veteran colonies equals good defenses against the invading Slavs.

    • @xxjr8axx
      @xxjr8axx 2 місяці тому

      The issue is that very often soldiers in the past were quite prone to do plundering and mass killing. If there is money to be made, a lot of people look the other way if a share goes to them.

  • @johnh.2340
    @johnh.2340 3 місяці тому +126

    This episode definitely resonates with modern military retirees and veterans. Thank you for this.

    • @psycomutt
      @psycomutt 3 місяці тому +33

      Roman veterans actually had it better. I'd much rather get a plot of land with no taxes for me and my family.

    • @tonycj7860
      @tonycj7860 3 місяці тому +4

      @@psycomutt Some of the benefits are very similar to modern times.
      You get a pension till you die. Medical coverage. If you qualify for it, Disability payments aren't taxed. Depending on your state, you might not pay any income tax on your pension. Also, dependent on your state, you might not pay property taxes on your home if you have disability.

    • @psycomutt
      @psycomutt 3 місяці тому +11

      @@tonycj7860 I'd still rather get a plot of land and no taxes for myself and my family.

    • @tonycj7860
      @tonycj7860 3 місяці тому +4

      @@psycomutt To each his own I suppose.
      I'd prefer the guaranteed money.

    • @psycomutt
      @psycomutt 3 місяці тому +15

      @@tonycj7860 The whole family skipping taxes is a huge boon especially your children. I pay thousands every year just in federal, my kids not having to pay that would be awesome. Not to mention lots of young people now days couldn't even dream of being land owners, now you have land to hand down for generations.

  • @yanbaihuzxzxzx
    @yanbaihuzxzxzx 3 місяці тому +14

    Like to see a movie where the veteran retires, gets a farm works it starts a family, gets old and seen living his last days with his family and friends recalling battles and historical figures. That would be awesome, be like damn Caesar made me march 30 miles one day. Lol

    • @johnh.2340
      @johnh.2340 3 місяці тому +8

      Yes, this almost sounds like a primer for a Gladiator II. 👊🍻

    • @yanbaihuzxzxzx
      @yanbaihuzxzxzx 2 місяці тому +1

      @@johnh.2340 wonder what it would take to get a script written.

    • @Enixon869
      @Enixon869 6 днів тому +1

      @@johnh.2340 it's basically what Maximus was planning to do at the start of Gladiator, but then the plot of the movie had other ideas in mind.

  • @agalv9017
    @agalv9017 3 місяці тому +36

    I love that the more I learn about the Roman legions, the more I see just how little the differences are between the legions and the modern infantry are. Except light infantry today definitely isn’t light.

    • @franciscol3510
      @franciscol3510 3 місяці тому +6

      If it ain't broken don't fix it

    • @jiyuhong5853
      @jiyuhong5853 3 місяці тому +2

      legionaries are heavy infantry

    • @WalterWhiteFootballSharing
      @WalterWhiteFootballSharing 3 місяці тому +1

      I mean, Infantry is default since cavemen days. Men on foot trying to kill other men on foot. Today infantry is the least important, all they can do is defend. Vehicles attack. Slow meat on boots cant attack vs artillery, airpower and armor. Sure if you're NATO equipped you got javelins and stinger missiles but those can't stop fixed wing bombers fighter-bombers, just helicopters and A-10 type slow ground support planes.

    • @WalterWhiteFootballSharing
      @WalterWhiteFootballSharing 3 місяці тому +1

      Cavalry could defeat infantry all things equal but cavalry had to be small, hard to feed. Unless infantry blocks was Disciplined and esp if Polearm equipped.

    • @noreply-7069
      @noreply-7069 3 місяці тому

      ​@@jiyuhong5853 He never said they weren't. No one did.

  • @NorthernXY
    @NorthernXY 3 місяці тому +20

    13:20 Florence was founded by Julius Caesar. Everybody always forgets that, even documentaries about Florence.

  • @AmTrFilms
    @AmTrFilms 3 місяці тому +15

    Nice touch having the Rome Total War music in the background

  • @PlvsVltra-ji3rs
    @PlvsVltra-ji3rs 3 місяці тому +14

    This series and the approach to history's more obscured subjects is simply great. I also love the little snippets using reenactors as it adds a much needed realistic approach to these lessons.

  • @themetroidprime
    @themetroidprime 3 місяці тому +11

    They did their part. Service guarantees citizenship, and land.

  • @ArgenYargen
    @ArgenYargen 3 місяці тому +38

    Great documentary, I’d always wondered about this aspect of Roman military service - especially about how they were guaranteed good land instead of swampy marshes or land that couldn’t be farmed.
    Hope the channel is doing better! I saw the video before Christmas where you said you needed help.

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  3 місяці тому +22

      Thanks for the support. We've had to scale things back and let quite a few people go which has been tough but we are now in a more sustainable position

    • @ac1455
      @ac1455 3 місяці тому +2

      Feels like there wouldn’t be needed that many safeguards needed against settling swamps since the incentive is to settle on geographically advantageous land for the state

    • @psycomutt
      @psycomutt 3 місяці тому +5

      ​@@ac1455That plus the vets ,and the guys still in the legions that looked up to them, would riot. I'd imagine that's a strong reason not to screw them over, lol.

  • @jasonthompson6594
    @jasonthompson6594 3 місяці тому +18

    That was fantastic! You gave me answers to questions i didn't even know i had.

  • @Diogolindir
    @Diogolindir 3 місяці тому +2

    This such a beautiful work. Congratulations to all who participated. It is obvious that It was produced with a lot of love.

  • @juicebox7373
    @juicebox7373 3 місяці тому +4

    Love this series ! Keep up the good work !

  • @helmort
    @helmort Місяць тому +2

    People often wonder why men are so drawn to ancient Romans. Just watch this video to understand. Consider all the men watching right now, realizing that the ancient Roman army system was one of the most modern, practical, and fascinating things to ever exist on Earth! It's not just about warfare; it's about the incredible organization and order, which we sadly lack in our society today. Engaging with ancient Roman history makes us feel invincible and hopeful for a better society. However, it also reminds us of the risk of societal collapse, leaving us fearful of falling into the hands of barbarians and corruption. It's a complex feeling, but many of you understand what I mean.
    Anyways, AMAZING JOB INVICTA! :D

  • @joeeeyyyyyy
    @joeeeyyyyyy 3 місяці тому +3

    love the format. keep it up.

  • @user-gd3xy2vl1s
    @user-gd3xy2vl1s 3 місяці тому +4

    What a co-incidence I am reading guy De La Bedoyere's Gladius and have just got to the chapter on Veterams. Nice work , Congratulations to all concerned

  • @Lochamp
    @Lochamp 3 місяці тому +5

    I've always wondered about these, thank you!

  • @shieldwallofdragons
    @shieldwallofdragons 3 місяці тому +2

    The exemptions a veteran and more importantly his extended family received alone would make the term of service worth signing up for…as a 26 year retired veteran myself I can identify with the pride these men must have in having served

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft 3 місяці тому +3

      I do not buy into legionnaires doing 25 years of service as it would have been a near impossible feat. I suspect that it was a hard 10 year front line service and then after that a support service.

  • @gekalskip
    @gekalskip 3 місяці тому +5

    absolutely gorgeous shots from the guys from Imperium Romanum ❤

  • @richardallday7387
    @richardallday7387 3 місяці тому +1

    Quality production, all around. Great job.

  • @chicinthewoods
    @chicinthewoods 3 місяці тому +1

    Once again, amazing!

  • @johndoe-kq1ct
    @johndoe-kq1ct 3 місяці тому +3

    Great work as always guys.

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  3 місяці тому

      Glad you enjoyed it, this one was a ton of fun to shoot

  • @ImperiumRomanumYT
    @ImperiumRomanumYT 3 місяці тому +1

    Great video as always!

  • @majorronaldmandell7835
    @majorronaldmandell7835 3 місяці тому +1

    Great information! I have often wondered what specific perks retired Roman soldiers received, and what the retirement process was like. . . Thanks so much!

  • @jeremyroberts6674
    @jeremyroberts6674 3 місяці тому

    I loved this! This was amazing!

  • @-RONNIE
    @-RONNIE 3 місяці тому +1

    Good information in this video & thanks for sharing it ⚔️

  • @christopherevans2445
    @christopherevans2445 3 місяці тому +2

    Imp. Romanum is a very cool channel. Glad to see you to working together

  • @aaronwalker4017
    @aaronwalker4017 3 місяці тому

    Have ALWAYS wondered if these exact scenarios happen Ed in the past.!! Fantastic video and lesson 🙏🙏

  • @kkupsky6321
    @kkupsky6321 3 місяці тому +4

    I feel bad for the reenactor who was getting the bad news he’s sacked. He’s like “I was doing this for fun” and and pat on the back. You’re done.

  • @safeysmith6720
    @safeysmith6720 Місяць тому +1

    There is a town here in Ontario which was established in a similar way.
    Back in 1816, retired British soldiers who had served in the region, were settled there, in what was the middle of the wilderness at the time.
    The town still exists today, as a little country town. It is called ‘Perth’.

  • @razvanc3842
    @razvanc3842 3 місяці тому +1

    Superb and above all, very informative and interesting.

  • @wkuntjoro6130
    @wkuntjoro6130 3 місяці тому

    Great video of history with interesting illustration and narratives.

  • @labrat9296
    @labrat9296 3 місяці тому +1

    Excellent Job, Thank you

  • @Monatio79
    @Monatio79 3 місяці тому +2

    Good video. Imagine a veteran of 20 years, just a day short from retirement, being fatally shot by a stray arrow as he's making his way to the baths. He lies on the ground gasping "just a couple of hours until retirement..." a la Lethal Weapon.

  • @giacomoromano8842
    @giacomoromano8842 3 місяці тому +4

    If you think that Augustus rewards were impressive, consider that later Legions threatened, coerced and outright conquered the state into augmenting both their conditions as soldiers and their veteran rewards. It's no wonder that the army basically brought the state into ruin at one point, as (if i remember correctly) Septimius Severus said to his sons in his deathbed: "pay the soldiers, and don't worry about anything else."

    • @alekisighl7599
      @alekisighl7599 3 місяці тому +1

      That was Septimius Severus not Vespasian

    • @giacomoromano8842
      @giacomoromano8842 3 місяці тому

      ​@@alekisighl7599 ah, right, i mixed the two up, thanks for the correction. I read the quote in middle school, it stuck with me but i got the Emperor who said it fumble up.

  • @BernardVisagie
    @BernardVisagie 3 місяці тому

    These videos are magnificent.

  • @Neapoleone-Buonaparte
    @Neapoleone-Buonaparte 3 місяці тому +3

    BEAUTIFUL ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL!

  • @okancanarslan3730
    @okancanarslan3730 3 місяці тому +1

    very informative documentary

  • @fattiger6957
    @fattiger6957 3 місяці тому +11

    Roman officers were from fhe nobility, but was it possible for a regular legionarious to be promoted into the officer class? Was there ever a general who started off as a footman grunt?

    • @joaoespecial4168
      @joaoespecial4168 3 місяці тому +16

      Yes. Stilico was son of a Auxilia Vandal and became Magister Militum, second to Emperor

    • @lucretialiciniagaiaerikaju3204
      @lucretialiciniagaiaerikaju3204 3 місяці тому +8

      If we’re speaking about the Roman army before Diocletian’s reforms then, in a word, no. The chain of promotion for legionaries was totally separate from that of the senatorial officers. The closest they could probably come would be primus pilus, the highest ranking centurion in a legion. They were a key advisor to the legion’s commander, and sometimes took over from him in an emergency

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft 3 місяці тому

      @@lucretialiciniagaiaerikaju3204
      Rome by its very nature was a market economy that was built on merit. While there was appointed officers from Rome most of the Roman Legions did not have that requirement. The vast majority of the forces were built from service achievements. The upper classes of Rome did not send their sons to the front line.

    • @lucretialiciniagaiaerikaju3204
      @lucretialiciniagaiaerikaju3204 3 місяці тому

      @@Art-is-craft Yes they did. The rank of broad-striped tribune was created for young men of senatorial rank to start off their military and political careers. It would have been impossible for the upper classes to avoid the military, since military service was a prerequisite for running for any of the highest political positions.

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft 3 місяці тому

      @@lucretialiciniagaiaerikaju3204
      Not every body served in the senate or had a family member in the senate. A few hundred senators simply would not have been capable of staffing hundreds of thousands of legionnaires never mind the actually administration class that supported such a force. The only way such a successful professional military that would have functioned was on merit. Do not take what I am saying to mean that the Patricians did not gain enter to the military.

  • @RARDingo
    @RARDingo 3 місяці тому +2

    Excellent video. I have been facinated by the concept of veteran colonies for many years now & I found this overview explained the how & why very well. Are there any records of such colonies being tested militarily, particularly in their early stages?

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft 3 місяці тому

      They are not veteran colonies they are out posts.

  • @radored7750
    @radored7750 3 місяці тому +3

    Great video

  • @dudimenthegreat9886
    @dudimenthegreat9886 3 місяці тому +9

    I love Roman content

  • @ryszardprzytua6667
    @ryszardprzytua6667 3 місяці тому

    Awsome video!

  • @angelfan16
    @angelfan16 2 місяці тому

    Thank you so much for this video! I was reading Simon Scarrow's Eagles of the Empire series the other day (book 11) and wondering what life in the "veteran colonies" mentioned was like!

  • @socratrash
    @socratrash 3 місяці тому +1

    Man, that soorhing rome total war sound sure brings back memories.

  • @Astalonte2
    @Astalonte2 3 місяці тому +1

    I was lucky enough to have ben born and bred in Osset, next to Hispalis and very near of the very important Roman colony of Italica.
    Roman history has been permanent in my hometown. It s everywhere

  • @OliverRust-uh8tx
    @OliverRust-uh8tx 3 місяці тому

    Wonderful video

  • @georgecristiancripcia4819
    @georgecristiancripcia4819 3 місяці тому +2

    Very nice video

  • @Kafkawaswrongbeetlesarecool
    @Kafkawaswrongbeetlesarecool 3 місяці тому

    Another banger

  • @nogodsnomasters7669
    @nogodsnomasters7669 3 місяці тому +2

    Good stuff

  • @badlaamaurukehu
    @badlaamaurukehu 3 місяці тому +3

    Timely.

  • @lexington476
    @lexington476 3 місяці тому

    Cool video. I think I had asked a question like this sometime back in a comment, as in how many soldiers actually served out the full 25 years 🙂.

  •  3 місяці тому +2

    Excellent video, perhaps we all have an idea of what the veterans did when they left the Legions; But, with this data in mind, the subject is much better and the Roman origin of several cities throughout Europe can be traced, thanks to the colonial effort of those who retired to populate the conquered areas.

  • @kennethpeterson4068
    @kennethpeterson4068 3 місяці тому +3

    That is how G.B. was settled. The Roman soldier served with honor. As a reward. They were given land as far away from Rome as possible. They were a bit rough around the rdges.

  • @normanquednau
    @normanquednau 2 місяці тому

    I grew up in one of the former colonies of retired legionnaires: Rodes, now Roses in Spain, Province Girona. Nearby, a few km lay the old harbor of Emporion, namegiver of the actual region Alt Empordá

  • @eukanuba98
    @eukanuba98 3 місяці тому +2

    as always a really nice and informative video
    but i have a question reagrding another video:
    some time ago (i think summer last year) you posted some clips about another gladiator video in cooperation with ludus aemilius
    have i missed that video and if so where can i find it?

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  3 місяці тому +2

      We are still working with them behind the scenes to make a series

  • @theromanorder
    @theromanorder 3 місяці тому +5

    please do a video on these
    (this is a copy and paste list for a few channels)
    units and tactics/evaluation of loadouts of troops (from different jobs (and other branches)
    like the 82 snd 101 airborne units
    or infantry tank units, (or when tanks were assigned a infantry unit like i think earlier war Russia then all tanks were formed into there own units wich meant the infantry no longer knew the true strength of there own tanks but alowed tank units to fight more efficiently)
    the tank doctrine of countries
    evaluation of tank veiw ports
    evaluation of tanks/armored vehicles of different countries
    evaluation of aircraft types of different countries,
    different between navil and army/air force fighters
    logistics units of the axes and allied powers in ww2
    ww1 estern front tactics
    Russian Civil war tactics and strategies
    navil ship cross sections (all the rooms and how it all works)
    evaluation of types of ships
    or evaluation of navil warfare (or just dedectsded videos on ww1 and ww2 navil doctrine as theres stuff out there on other times of history)
    air craft carrier strike group formations exsamples (from different countries)
    ancient persan ships,
    ancient veneti ships (gauls that fought ceaser)
    ships used by genoa and the vernesain republic
    the vernesain republic government
    all sailing ships, (i know theres many on yt but some contradict each other and i think theres more left out)
    ancient macenean greek and trojan troops
    2b9 vasilyok morter
    tactics used so far in the Ukraine war,
    better for squads to be 2 teams of 5 or 3 teams of 3,
    and probably the easiest, better to keep troops well feed or starved like an animal
    how dose age effect comsnders eg napoleon got older so took less risks,
    ancient urban warfare
    ww2 tactics in Asia, tactics in the Chinese age of warlords, (and Chinese civil war)
    tactics in the ruso jap war
    cold war navil tactics,
    Korean war tactics,
    strange tactics or unque battles from the American war of independence and America civil
    how were 17th centry sailing ships build
    types of bombs lunched by drones
    comands given on sailing ships (like ease the sheets and get ready to chine, or slack n beases, basically things you hear movie capitns say)
    why did the nazis never return (or a video on best occupations)
    why did the Japanese empire fall, dont just say "America" like things like how there army and navy argued alot
    alot more on the Polynesians and māori, but please learn pronounceations if you do this

    • @b1laxson
      @b1laxson 3 місяці тому +2

      By the time he does all those he will have earned his veteran land settlement.

    • @theromanorder
      @theromanorder 3 місяці тому +1

      @@b1laxson well most of them aren't things he would do but still

  • @dshock85
    @dshock85 3 місяці тому +22

    Considering you had a number of emperors who lasted 20 to 30 years and many for most of the reign not having any major wars...especially from Agustus through to Marcus Aurelius. That was probably the peak of the benefits of joining the military and surviving. I also imagine Legions in Hispania and North Africa probably saw the least amount of action. But then you get to the crises of the third century and the rapid destabilization from 350 to 476 and things look very different......also Imagine if a US president declared all veteran service persons free from federal taxes....god forbid

    • @psycomutt
      @psycomutt 3 місяці тому +8

      They kind of get tax breaks but not enough. My buddy with a purple heart doesn't pay some taxes, for example. I think everyone who hits retirement age should be exempt from, at least, home owner tax. How am I supposed to retire when I'm still paying my "government rent" for a house I bought years ago?

    • @MrLobstermeat
      @MrLobstermeat 3 місяці тому

      Hell I would be happy with not paying social security.

    • @tonycj7860
      @tonycj7860 3 місяці тому +1

      Something to keep in mind is that their contracts were for a full 20 years. That would be retirement in modern times, rather than just a veteran.
      As far as taxes, it depends on your situation and state of residence. Some states will not touch military pensions at all. In other states, if you have a service related disability, you will pay either a reduced property tax or none at all.

    • @dshock85
      @dshock85 3 місяці тому +2

      @tonycj7860 most joined thr legions at 16 or 17, so you were out st around late 30s early 40s. Plus we have a lot of homeless veterans and service members in debt and as the richest nation on the planet...that should not be allowed. We should probably go back to giving veterans land.

    • @dshock85
      @dshock85 3 місяці тому +1

      @MrLobstermeat that will bite you in the ass later. Social security is the only tax worth paying that you actually get back later. The problem is corporations and the wealthy need to pay a hell of a lot more.

  • @jonathanwilson9632
    @jonathanwilson9632 3 місяці тому +2

    The fact that people 2,000 years knew how to take better care of their veterans than they do now is insane to me.

  • @calebwelch6393
    @calebwelch6393 3 місяці тому +1

    Someone should write a historical fiction book about one of these colonies with flashbacks in time during the various characters service.

  • @kevintsolakoy8331
    @kevintsolakoy8331 3 місяці тому +4

    is this rome total war sound playing in background?

  • @barnabaszu
    @barnabaszu 3 місяці тому +1

    Very good

  • @benjamincolon5486
    @benjamincolon5486 3 місяці тому +1

    Can you do a video about homeownership and the types of homes one can buy and how home ownership work in the ancient worlds Like was there a Roman dream

  • @JonathanRivera-dj6mm
    @JonathanRivera-dj6mm 3 місяці тому +10

    So, this means that there could be descendants of Ancient Romans from Western Europe to the Mediterranean! Curious!

    • @stalfithrildi5366
      @stalfithrildi5366 3 місяці тому +7

      By now, its pretty certain that anyone with an ancestor in Western/Southern Europe at the time was related to Romans

    • @JonathanRivera-dj6mm
      @JonathanRivera-dj6mm 3 місяці тому

      @@stalfithrildi5366 because I think that DNA tests trace someone's linage from the Renaissance to today!

    • @Yumao420
      @Yumao420 3 місяці тому +2

      There could be? No. It's not that some people "could" descend from Romans.
      It's that literally every single living person between Portugal, Egypt, England and Iran descends from Romans. Hell, half of the Iberian Peninsula were Celts and genetically speaking we are more Roman than we are Celtic.

  • @Aurelianus270
    @Aurelianus270 3 місяці тому +4

    I love you guys

  • @bruhmoment9009
    @bruhmoment9009 3 місяці тому +3

    Whoa, cool

  • @Flavius_Belisarius
    @Flavius_Belisarius 3 місяці тому +1

    Lmfao dude what's with the soldier in the thumbnail. Gramps look like he's desperately trying to find the Roman Country Kitchen Buffet xD

  • @coltonstrickland7750
    @coltonstrickland7750 3 місяці тому +1

    Kick ass!

  • @BVargas78
    @BVargas78 3 місяці тому

    I believe that Aquilea was founded as a soldier city and maintained a military tradition because of it's strategic location, guarding the North Eastern entry into Italy. It was destroyed by Attila and his army yet it resisted bravely and it held up his army for a time. Though unjustly, their resistance likely worsened their fate.

  • @SlayerUvAlienGods
    @SlayerUvAlienGods 3 місяці тому +1

    @DeptOfDefense construction clans or whatsoever for water truck with rows of filter plates with many other filtering methods including distilled perhaps

    • @SlayerUvAlienGods
      @SlayerUvAlienGods 3 місяці тому

      Like the old western carriage carriers @DeptOfDefense

  • @noahvcat9855
    @noahvcat9855 3 місяці тому +1

    This aspect of these veteran colonies becoming full fledge cities in later times could somewhat explain why often even centuries later many states and kingdoms and later on countries claim to be true successors to Rome

  • @justshutupplease9862
    @justshutupplease9862 3 місяці тому +5

    Now this is what I call early.

  • @gmanempire5176
    @gmanempire5176 2 місяці тому

    I find it interesting how similar the veteran city layout is to how roman legionary camps were

  • @istvansipos9940
    @istvansipos9940 2 місяці тому

    well done.

  • @stonefish1318
    @stonefish1318 3 місяці тому +4

    Basically "The Villages" of the Empire.

    • @b1laxson
      @b1laxson 3 місяці тому +1

      "Loyal villages" being an important add

    • @johnh.2340
      @johnh.2340 3 місяці тому

      Dayum, Bro. I thought that you were about to talk about Central Florida.......Caligula enters the chat. 🤣🤔

  • @John_Pace
    @John_Pace 3 місяці тому +2

    30 years ago, in the British Army, similar to the Roman army, a Senior NCO could expect a payment enough to buy a new house. Today, no chance.

    • @BVargas78
      @BVargas78 3 місяці тому

      It's almost like we are setting ourselves up for history to repeat itself if we aint careful. The Roman elites of the late Republic took things too far and it led to the rise of the populares faction that fought for (or claimed to fight for) the common people. But it eventually became the empire.

  • @odd-ysseusdoesstuff6347
    @odd-ysseusdoesstuff6347 3 місяці тому +2

    More worldbuilding knowledge for meeee!!!

  • @SND_MIA
    @SND_MIA 3 місяці тому +1

    Who does the voice overs for this? It makes it for me

  • @golden_smaug
    @golden_smaug 3 місяці тому +1

    Nice

  • @PlayingWithFireOutdoors
    @PlayingWithFireOutdoors 3 місяці тому +1

    I wish land grants were still given for long term honorably discharged soldiers, I did nearly 30 yrs service. I'd love to receive 6+ acres of land

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft 3 місяці тому

      What would be far more beneficial would be for young service men to learn how to build their own wealth portfolio so when they leave service they have either a good well level of wealth or a good foundation. One way would be for government to match a man’s contributions. 30 years of that and most men would be a millionaire or very close to it.

    • @kenofken9458
      @kenofken9458 3 місяці тому

      Careful what you wish for. Some 6-acre plots aren't worth a year's service!

  • @javiermelladomusica
    @javiermelladomusica 3 місяці тому +4

    I wanted to know the figure of how many veterans survive their military service life for years. Thank you, Invicta.

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft 3 місяці тому

      Rome legions would have had a very high survival level due to the professional nature of their militaries. But I do not believe that Rome had a 25 year service for legionnaires. That service is just too long.

  • @David-ns4ym
    @David-ns4ym 3 місяці тому

    During the revolts of the British natives one such town was sacked. The veterans gave a valiant defense and all died at the town central building where they gave a last stand.
    Osprey published the book on the matter and it’s the stuff of a movie

  • @GHST995
    @GHST995 3 місяці тому +2

    For the Empire!

  • @natepotter1709
    @natepotter1709 3 місяці тому +7

    Not a day goes without me thinking about the Roman empire, just like a phone call I get everyday about my car's extended warranty.

  • @hiddensalami4334
    @hiddensalami4334 3 місяці тому

    I want a video game like this!

  • @Shammer1
    @Shammer1 3 місяці тому

    To honor your service here is a nice stick I found yesterday

  • @cassiusaetius111
    @cassiusaetius111 3 місяці тому +2

    Where was this filmed? Seems like a reconstructed roman domus.

  • @hydrabyhydra9608
    @hydrabyhydra9608 3 місяці тому +1

    So if you got like 5 or 10 acres. What happens to it when you die? If you had a son, would he get the land, if so, what happens when he retires and gets land, would he sustain both?

  • @forlornfool221
    @forlornfool221 3 місяці тому

    Low and behold! I pay to not suffer from Raid adds.. And now I get a Raid add..

  • @Vicious_Retard
    @Vicious_Retard 3 місяці тому

    did the veteran colonies' settlers live outside the walls on their farms or in the town proper?