This video was recorded chronologically because I kept finding out new information during editing. So you will hear me found about everything in real time 😅
@@malhalsey4994 I feel so bad for all three skaters involved because it seems like something very normal for teenagers to do (drink, and have relationships) and consensual got completely blown out of proportion and misinterpreted/misunderstood
Maybe it's not about money. I am sure they understand the possibility of a reality show and choose not to go in that direction. I wouldn't judge them if they went down the road but, I am glad they haven't.
For some cultural context, it’s not that uncommon in Russia to get married young and the engagement often only lasts a couple of months before the wedding which tends to be a relatively straightforward civil ceremony. So this isn’t really as odd as it may appear elsewhere. They will probably be married by fall.
While marrying young is common in Russia, divorcing later on is also VERY common. Russia has the 3rd highest divorce rate in the world. I’m not saying that I hope or think that Sasha will later divorce, but just pointing out that it is quite common in the general culture.
Russian Journalists: We are SO happy for the new couple, Trusova (who has not won anything in years) and Ignato (who is sexy but bad at skating)! The. Shade!
Are you Russian? I am not Russian but there is a reason Russians speak the way they do and I like it. It's forthright and honest. It's funny listening to this person saying that being honest is "throwing shade" as if it's better to lie. This entitled attitude in the west expects everyone to only say positive things as if people are so weak we must lie to them. It's the "fat is healthy" crap that is lying to people. I am fat and I promise you it's not healthy. Its OK to call someone "sexy" and then say what their weaknesses are too because athletes don't need to be lied to. So now you can't even call someone sexy because it's "sexualizing" but if he were fat and ugly you all would have no problem if they called him a "sex symbol" and cheer it on. If it was Africa or an Asian country or the Taliban you would respect that their are cultural differences but you will never do the same for Russia who isn't forcing anyone to marry or have children. So what if they think someone getting engaged might be thinking of having children. In my family several of the most happy and content and successful among us all married before 21 and started having children. They are the most genuinely happy people I have ever known. Not everyone thinks the way you think they should and I am pretty sure many in Russia have varied ideas on how they view marrying young and having children but there is nothing wrong with Russians that think it's likely if you get engaged that you might want to start a family. It's not like no one in the west does this. After seeing so many in my family living such fulfilled lives by doing this it changed the way I view it. You all are so judgemental of every little word and don't even wonder yourself whether or not things are lost in translation. I guess you all want the legal age of 18 as an adult to be raised to 30. The condescending western supremacy towards Russians is kind of weird considering that it's a very safe place to live when compared to my own country. In my hood I have heard well over 50 people shot from my livingroom since 2020. If they survive the shooting it doesn't even get reported on local news because nobody cares. Since most fired shots don't hit anyone that means I have heard thousands of shots firec. I watch Russia host Games of the Future, The World Youth Festival, the BRICS Games, all this year including the upcoming Friendship Games in the fall and all of these events have over 100 countries represented because they are building culture. People in the west feel so Supreme over Russia but they simply aren't paying attention to what's actually happening. People in the west with their phoney virtue signals that will tell me as long as I am not guilty of "wrong think" myself that my fat is beautiful and healthy and sexy but 25 years ago it was sexualizing me to call me sexy because I was actually sexy at the time. Americans will cry about being sexualized and then post almost nude shots online right afterwards and still expect people to empathize next time they whine about being sexualized again.
@@saion5553 Their poor bodies have already been through so much (and usually are broken and malnourished by the time they retire), and THEN the next thing they do is get pregnant?! Sheesh!!
@@kohlinoor stop acting like they aren't making choices for themselves. No one is forcing them. I guess you think they should be forced into not marrying and having children. It's funny how it's only Russia's cultural differences that people feel just fine to question and ridicule but when It's other countries suddenly you aren't supposed to question it. I can understand why they are ready to marry and have children and go in that direction and I can understand if they want to do something else. The most fulfilled people I know married young and had children. My daughter was never as happy as she is today being a wife and mother. Even she didn't predict that it could make her so happy. It's funny how you are treating these Russian figure skaters like they are idiots but unlike most poor people in my hood they don't have to work themselves to death for decades at some shit backbreaking job they hate because we all understand someone has to do those jobs. Unless you die very young you are an adult far longer than you are a child. If these skaters don't have to work their asses off anymore by the time they are 20 then they are very fortunate. I always understood Eteri when she talked about the lifestyle they get to have when they are through with competitive figure skating. I don't know if Eteri was ever poor but she comes across as someone who knows what it's like to be poor or certainly seems to understand it. No one makes these young people in Russia be skaters. Many quit. Eteri has made these girls have more options as adults than most of us could ever dream about. Stop putting your values onto people in Russia. I feel sorry for people in the west that believe Russians are the bad guys when they don't really know anything about Russia.
Respeten la cultura rusa es normal para ellos casarse y tener hijos siendo aún jóvenes, son decisiones de ellos, en USA sólo sancionaron con 6 meses de no asistir a los K&C y en epoca de pandemia a una adulta Silvia Fontana y 1 año a su esposo quienes amenazaron a una menor de 13 años victima de acoso sexual del pedofilo de Morgan cipres a quien ayudaron a escapar a Francia y tienen continuos tiroteos en las escuelas algo que no ocurre ni en Rusia ni en la mayoría de países, dejen la xenofobia y racismo
Mone chiba literally Japanese national silver medalist, reigning four continents champion, 7th finish at world's overall and fifth in free skate. Her seasons best was third highest season score in ladies last year. She is one of the only three skaters to have beaten mao shimada in the last two years.....
Yeah, she needs to get some to get some info on Japanese and Korean skaters, that is not only the current drama. The fields are deep and full of very good skaters. But there's the language barrier, I guess...
About halfway thru the video you talk about wanting Ilia, Yuma, and Adam to face off against each other in GP competitions so I just wanted to say they're not allowed to!! Since they came top 3 in worlds this year, they are all considered seeded skaters, and therefore are not able to face each other in GP comps (except for the final of course!). 4th-6th places are the same where they are not allowed to be in the same GPs so Kevin Aymoz, Jason Brown, and Kazuki Tomono are all also assigned to different competitions
(Also seeded skaters are allowed to choose/rank which GPs they want to do so Ilia as 1st place got to pick to do SkAm and SCI back to back, which is crazy to me!!)
@@paolalaHaha yeah I think the logic behind it is so that the skaters who placed 1st through 6th at worlds have a better chance of meeting in the GPF. Otherwise for example Adam or Yuma might not be able to go to the final if Ilia beats them in the regular GP competitions, so it saves all the interesting rivalries for the end lol
@@sofia-lk9ztSort of crazy but no travel, no huge time zone change, kind of easier but could be not great for his ‘brand’ for others in the rest of the world to see him?
trusova is actually on good terms with eteri, you might have missed it but it became known at the battle of the schools finale at eteris new rink where after her performance, trusova went backstage while chatting and smiling with eteri. after that it was confirmed that sasha would replace kamila in eteris show so she’s actually not only doing plushenko shows
Just a couple days ago Team Tutberidze published Happy Birthday video for Sasha on Instagram, so as they still treat her like a team member, I assume she will keep starring in their shows
PLEASE PLEASE i’m begging you do a full timeline of the Zhenya - Eteri relationship !!!!‼️‼️ I need to know everything that happened between them from beginning to end i’m so investedddd😭😭😭😭😭
I am Russian, and it is very normal for girls to be engaged and married in their late teens/early 20s. Sadly, most of these girls end up divorced and some end up as single mothers (like the gymnast Aliya Mustafina, for example). I don't care if it works for some people, but I think getting married at 19 after a whirlwind romance is the height of foolishness. You are setting yourself up for faliure. And I say this even though I met my husband at 18 (we waited until 26 to get married, because, what's the rush). The pressure on girls in Russia to be married before 25 and have kids before 30 is insane, and I hate that patriarchal aspect of that culture. If you haven't started having kids by your late 20's, many people literally think you're a failure and something must be wrong with you.
That sounds like Belgium 60 years ago, my parents where considered "old" when they married at 21 and 25 and a lot of comments during 3 years before i was born.
My parents got married at 19 after only knowing each other for a couple of months and got pregnant right away....yeah, I wouldn't recommend it. Maybe leave permanent decisions like marriage and parenthood until after your brain is fully developed, just my opinion though
On one hand I'm disappointed that the three musketeers (Ilia, Yuma and Adam) don't get to go against eachother, but on the other hand I'm glad because this way the three of them might get a gold medal
For the Adam and Illia (and Yuma) rivalry in the Grand Prix, the ISU doesn't allow the top three from the previous Worlds to be in the same gp competitions. They probably do this to ensure there's a star in each event and to give all of them a better chance of making it to the Grand Prix final. It's the same for the 4th, 5th, and 6th place skaters (technically 5th to 7th now because Shoma's gone 🥲). The top three get to choose two assignments each first, then it's the turn of the 4th to 6th place skaters (so Jason, Lukas, and Deniss don't have the same assignments). Sorry for the long comment. Thanks for the great video!
This is going to be quite the pre-Olympic season. Women's has got me really excited seeing all the comebacks. Also, how wild would it be if Jason Brown goes to a 3rd Olympics? US men's is so messy that it's honestly realistic that this could happen.
5:45am here in London I wake up and you’ve post this! As someone who has followed skating for years, really love your perspective on our wonderful and bizarre sport - a HUGE thank you 🙏🏽
21:18 the isu always scatters the top most likely to win skaters across the grand prix. it's a good way to get fans to watch the entire gp and to make sure the gpf actually has the most competitive skaters. that's why you never saw alyona, anna, and sasha compete against each other in the gp series until the final.
People are assuming its Haein Lee and Young You as they were the only ones who arent minors. What I'm confused about is skater B. Skater B apparently took a video of skater A, and showed it to skater C. If she hadnt showed it to anyone else and skater C was in the room, how is that an offense? I doubt it wasn't consentful... I don't know. The situation is sickening and if it is haein and young I am beyond dissapointed and upset. And if the assault was not consentful, I am praying skater C heals from the trauma because nobody deserves to experience such things.
Even if the picture doesn't leave the dorm room that's still messed up dude. And also wym you doubt it wasn't consentual?? They literally got charged with SA...
@@kazbrekkybar I was talking about the video. If it is Haein and Young, I dont think either would record recklessly. Also, its not clear if the SA was consentful or not. Even if a minor gives consent, the law simply doesnt allow a minor to give permission so it can still be considered SA. Its unclear until we get more information, but if he didnt give permission I hope he can heal from the trauma.
Lee claims alleged victim was boyfriend, regrets drinking By KTimes Lee Hae-in (18, Korea University), a female national figure skater, has been identified as the athlete who received a 3-year suspension for drinking alcohol and allegedly sexually harassing a minor teammate during overseas training. While she deeply regrets the drinking, she clarified that the victim was her boyfriend and denied the sexual harassment allegations. Lee apologized on her social media, saying, "Drinking alcohol was absolutely wrong, and I am deeply reflecting on my actions." However, she firmly denied allegations of sexual harassment. "The victim was my boyfriend when we were in high school. We broke up due to parental objection, but we reunited during this training camp." She added, "I thought it was just playful behavior or expressions of affection between lovers, and I never imagined it would lead to such a misunderstanding." Lee's lawyer reportedly said that the couple had kept their relationship secret this time due to opposition from her family. The lawyer explained that their behavior might have seemed strange to those unaware of their relationship, leading to the sexual harassment controversy. Because their relationship was secret, they did not disclose it during the initial investigation by the Korean Skating Union. According to the Korea Skating Union, during the joint national team training camp in Varese, Italy, from May 15 to 28, Lee drank alcohol in her room with fellow skater A. At that time, a minor male teammate, B, was also present. Lee allegedly engaged in behavior that made B uncomfortable. The union imposed a 3-year suspension on Lee and a 1-year suspension on A. B, who had entered the women's dormitory, received a reprimand for violating training guidelines. Lee, considered the "post-Kim Yuna" and a silver medalist at last year's World Championships, faces the risk of missing the 2026 Milan-Cortina d'Ampezzo Winter Olympics due to the suspension. She has appealed the decision to the Korea Sports Council, the higher body of the skating union. Her lawyer said, "We will fully explain that it was light physical contact in a romantic relationship and seek leniency for Lee Hae-in's mistakes." This is not the first sexual scandal in Korean skating. In 2019, Olympic short track gold medalist Shim Suk-hee revealed years of sexual abuse and rape by her coach, Jo Jae-beom, sparking the #Me Too movement in the skating community. This article from the Hankook Ilbo, a sister publication of The Korea times, is translated by a generative AI and edited by The Korea Times.
In Russia the culture is for girls to get married younger. Also consider these girls have almost no education and their whole life has been regulated around skating. Once they retire they need to go to a new structured environment.
The Russian media is the most honest. I enjoy their forthright approach. It's weird how just saying basic facts means they are "throwing shade" and now they expect Russia to go along with the western world that now thinks its "sexualizing" someone just because you say they are sexy. In America they would cheer on calling someone that's fat and unattractive like myself is sexy and healthy but if they said I was sexy because I was sexy like I used to be back in the day then they would call that "sexualizing" me. Being fat is very unhealthy and I should know. Being honest about Sasha's fiance limitations on the ice is just honest and this idea it's "throwing shade" is ridiculous. I also know plenty of people in the west marry young and have children and live very happy and fulfilled lives and no one is forcing Russians to marry young and have children but it's likely they don't have a problem with it. I can understand why an athlete when their career is over might want to move on to marriage and children. There is nothing wrong with wanting to do this. I know the west pretends the age of adulthood should be 30 instead of 18 but I am glad I got to be an adult at 18. It's also weird how none of you seem to be curious if things get lost in translation when reading translated Russian. I know I used to have to use translators when I got cases as a CPS investigater that were often Bosnian and its incredibly difficult to speak and understand this way. You do the best you can but it's just not the same as speaking to someone in the same language. So what if some Russians hear "fiancee" and then think it's possible you will want to start a family soon. The most happy and fulfilled people I know started very young as couples and having children so it's not right or wrong.
Haein has restricted comments on her ig, Young has her comments enabled but there's nothing negative there so far. Lets see what comes out of it, and hopefully the male skater will remain anonymous.
There are some negative comments under the Young's last post. But the most interesting thing is that the number of subscribers is growing actively. I think many fans are waiting for the official statements and apologies from them but the girls remain silent
Lee claims alleged victim was boyfriend, regrets drinking By KTimes Lee Hae-in (18, Korea University), a female national figure skater, has been identified as the athlete who received a 3-year suspension for drinking alcohol and allegedly sexually harassing a minor teammate during overseas training. While she deeply regrets the drinking, she clarified that the victim was her boyfriend and denied the sexual harassment allegations. Lee apologized on her social media, saying, "Drinking alcohol was absolutely wrong, and I am deeply reflecting on my actions." However, she firmly denied allegations of sexual harassment. "The victim was my boyfriend when we were in high school. We broke up due to parental objection, but we reunited during this training camp." She added, "I thought it was just playful behavior or expressions of affection between lovers, and I never imagined it would lead to such a misunderstanding." Lee's lawyer reportedly said that the couple had kept their relationship secret this time due to opposition from her family. The lawyer explained that their behavior might have seemed strange to those unaware of their relationship, leading to the sexual harassment controversy. Because their relationship was secret, they did not disclose it during the initial investigation by the Korean Skating Union. According to the Korea Skating Union, during the joint national team training camp in Varese, Italy, from May 15 to 28, Lee drank alcohol in her room with fellow skater A. At that time, a minor male teammate, B, was also present. Lee allegedly engaged in behavior that made B uncomfortable. The union imposed a 3-year suspension on Lee and a 1-year suspension on A. B, who had entered the women's dormitory, received a reprimand for violating training guidelines. Lee, considered the "post-Kim Yuna" and a silver medalist at last year's World Championships, faces the risk of missing the 2026 Milan-Cortina d'Ampezzo Winter Olympics due to the suspension. She has appealed the decision to the Korea Sports Council, the higher body of the skating union. Her lawyer said, "We will fully explain that it was light physical contact in a romantic relationship and seek leniency for Lee Hae-in's mistakes." This is not the first sexual scandal in Korean skating. In 2019, Olympic short track gold medalist Shim Suk-hee revealed years of sexual abuse and rape by her coach, Jo Jae-beom, sparking the #Me Too movement in the skating community. This article from the Hankook Ilbo, a sister publication of The Korea times, is translated by a generative AI and edited by The Korea Times.
i dont know how i got into your videos as i'm not super into figure skating BUT i come to watch every one of them for some reason because you are just so fun to watch
apparently, russian girls tend to marry on the younger side? I remember someone mentioning that zhenya's mom was concerned for her because she wasn't married yet at 24. also, I'm not sure that sasha and anna were close. they were rinkmates, yes, but if I recall correctly, anna has always mentioned that she was close with alyona and a few others, not so much sasha.
Alysa Liu coming back is still a huge shock to me, I thought she was done with Figure Skating for sure, she's one of the main reasons I'll be watching Figure Skating this season.....And of course Kaori Sakamoto!
I was so shocked when she retired tbh! I wondered if her parents were pushing her into doing something academic at uni as soon as Oly's were over, instead of letting her finish her career in skating first. She stopped so young. It's a massive shock to your system when you stop skating, after having competed for years, and to make that decision so quickly and so young wasn't the best idea imo (unless she personally had, had enough with it).
I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact that AnnaS and Eteri unfollowed each other on IG. Sasha has long retired in my book, in my eyes once someone no longer participate in the Russian nationals he/she has essentially retired... And she's an Eteri girl and over 18..... Every FS fan knew about the Eteri expiration date which is 17 and once you reach 18 you HAVE to leave Eteri if you want to even have a chance to continue your career... (what happened to Zhenya is proof of that). Speaking of which I believe Kamila Valieva already reached 18? She'll have to switch coaches if she want to continue or she'll have to retire very soon...
I have a theory: Trusova has been very friendly with Eteri since exiting the team, Eteri has openly said that Sasha was the hardest working girl on the team, hence the quads, Eteri has been trying to push quads in pairs with that other couple but it has not worked, I don’t think it would be very farfetched for her to take in Sasha and Makar as a pair, specially because Sasha loves a never-done-before stunt, and there are plenty of those to be done in pairs.
Pretty sure Donovan is training in Toronto at TCC, not in USA. Koshiro Shimada trains with Lambiel, he tends to get lost in the shuffle amongst the Japanese men. Looking forward to the season. I attended Worlds in Montreal and plan to be in Boston next year. I will miss Shoma.
Thing about getting engaged so quick for Sashulya and Makar-when the guy knows, the guy knows. Within a couple weeks (this is with a good, healthily attached, not-playing-around type of guy) they know if they wanna take it serious. They’re already considering their future with the girl. Now, everyone’s timeline is different, but especially in celeb culture, we’ve seen patterns that couples could be together for so long but never marry, and then they break up and marry the next one that comes along (Austin Butler and Vanessa Hudgens’s relationship being a notable example). I’m glad Sasha and Makar kept their relationship low profile, at least up to this point. I wish the best for them and hope Sasha doesn’t get too much harassment like poor Yuzuru’s ex-wife did 😢.
I know i can always come here for the Donovan Carrillo's support! Lol i also love his showmanship ans believe in his starpower. Really excited to see him now that he has been for a while with his new coaches! Just a note, he is training in Canada, not the USA
Wake up! We have Game of Thrones with Plushenko. Natalia Parsegova spoke about harassment, abuse, and corruption at the Plushenko Academy! "Angels of Plushenko" demands 1.9 million rubles from Arina Parsegova's family after the figure skater left for the group of Eteri Tutberidze
Hello, I am from Germany and was able to find more information about the people who are probably affected. Only two Korean figure skaters were part of the training camp, so it is very clear who A and B are. Only Young You and Haein Lee were actually there and must therefore be the skaters involved. In addition, a photo of both of them was published alongside the video, also made unrecognizable but, as with the video, still recognizable to anyone who knows both of them. In addition, A is supposed to be Haien Lee and B is supposed to be Young You. However, I don't know where the German sources got the latter information from and therefore can't confirm it. But unfortunately it's relatively certain that it's about the two skaters. Personally, I believe and hope that a supposedly inappropriate behavior is being turned into something bigger and worse. Perhaps they both did something that is quite normal for teenagers/young adults, but is judged differently for athletes in the public eye.
There are also indications that skater C is Seo Min-kyu (this year's winner of the Junior World Championships). But again, all information is without guarantee. Haein Lee is also said to have violated the alcohol ban several times.
Just FYI, people in Russia get married younger, but divorces are common and not that looked down upon, cause "marriage is a union before god" stuff is not really a thing here lol. Like only 15% of Russians believe in afterlife, it's pretty secular.
@@Annikidiary Yeah I was a bit surprised by 15% myself. I guess It's kinda hard to be super religious and have national pride for like sending first man in space after Bolsheviks shot some priests and had muslim women remove hijabs. They are conservative in a bit diff way from usa, like for example homophobia is not justified because god wouldn't like it or hell ticket, but because of a HUGE ex felons population and toxic trauma coming from it. Also a huge amount of women in 40-60 age demo had abortions, almost all already in adulthood/marriage and for financial reasons, that's why abortion ban will never really happen here, since older woman are the biggest demographic right now. Like even our alt right incel misogynists don't really fly the "life begins at conception" argument.
Maybe Starr Andrews will be able to get an assignment or two. I’m really looking forward to her programs after last season, where I thought the song choices were absolutely awful.
You said you were confused about not seeing Adam and ilia in the same gp events, but the whole point of the grand prix is to separate the 3 first places of last world championships, to make them compete against each other face to face only in the GPF. They are always separated in the GP circuit hehe
So it was Haein Lee but seems like a big misunderstanding as she says she was in a relationship with him as minors and had to keep it a secret because of parental disapproval. I hope she get it cleared up and the boy whoever it is, needs to be a man and speak up. The thought of haein SH a minor seems to be concocted by the KSU and simply unfathomable.
Yes!!! From what I've seen so far in Korean news reports, its really not at all like it was made to sound.... Haein and the boy had been boyfriend and girlfriend while in high school together, but her parents did not approve and made then break up. Then it looks like they got back together sometime afterwards, but were trying to keep it a secret because of what had happened before, on top of not wanting any drama with the teams or their careers, etc., and somebody got the wrong idea and blew this up a bit out of proportion...? (Again, this is just what it seems like from the reports I've seen.)
I think Trusova has experienced an immense amount in just the past 4 years… I simply hope she is receiving the MH support she deserves. Also I miss my 👑 Evgenia so much. Love your videos always!
Meanwhile the smartest 3A's girls, Anna, slammed the rumour about dating some russian football guy and deemed him as an attention seeker in her IG story lol.
finlandia trophy hit the jackpot in all disciplines and I'm so happy to have all these amazing skaters in my home city ❤️ also gonna try to go and see ice dance free live because hell yeah catching both pirihara and turkkila versluis live!
I’m 21 & have never held hands with a guy nor worked that far above minimum wage Meanwhile Trusnova’s 19 and already engaged to be married and nearing the end of a successful career. :p Dang these Russian skaters truly waste no time 😂
@@d.n.8919lol ur right Apparently the avg marriage age in the US is around 29, whereas in Russia it’s closer to 24. Trusnova’s still pretty young but I guess less so for a Russian 😗🤷♀️
Hi Paola, thank you so much for your thoughts. Just a bit of a correction, Donavan Carrillo move to Canada not the US (my guess is cause its easier for mexicans to go to canda since they don't ask for a visa). And though the coach is new, he has work with them before. All of this from an interview Donovan had with golden skate last year at the start of the past season.
1. Can't we just consider russia as collectively retired at this point 2. Alysa Liu WHAT. help aaaa 3. Can't believe you have forgotten Rion Sumiyoshi _again_. Well, the more fun in case she does land the thing… 4. ………wtf Korea??? no words………
I wish Amber Aileen did a more masculine performance, I feel like it would fit her skating style better. I also really want her to wear a pantsuit instead of a dress
Hey if you like figure skating you might like baton twirling👀 it’s another mostly unknown sport and we are making an Olympic bid. It has a lot of similar elements to figure skating with a short program and a freestyle ;) worlds are soon too, you could take a look if you’re interested 😄
What about samo and tito just about to compete with their new countries!!!! And about Sasha, she always says she love kids and wanna have a big family so i wouldnt be surprised if she is already pregnant (that would be insane tho).
Just a genuine question. If it is Haein Lee and Young You there will be missing spot for the GPs right? So does that mean Sofia Samodelkina have a chance to compete at GP? And why does feel like the Korean federation knows that they might get 2 spot for the olympics (just like 2022 Beijing) soo they’re trying to “get rid of” Haein and Young to give the spot to Jia and Chaeyeon.
Sofia has zero points for ISU standings, so I doubt she gets two assignments anyway, probably one. But let's left the theories aside, Korea has a strong and competitive field and they had nice chances to have three spots for OG but now they are lower. So it definitely wasn't beneficial for the kor fed to get rid of such a popular and prospective skaters. The girls ruined everything by themselves, that's simple
I have understood that gp invitations are personal (basically isu wants not only the best skaters to compete but the most popular/famous as well even if their previous season didn't go too well), so if a skater can't make it, there won't be a replacement. But maybe there could be an exception for this, i don't know.
@@Nikita_kca yeah. It's technically not confirmed that it's 100% them, but they were the only adult skaters that attended the camp and a Korean show blurred their videos of them skating at Worlds. Believe me, everyone on Reddit was shocked.
Hopefully Jason Brown changes up his music selection. Would like to see him do more performances like his short program to Sinnerman. Enough with the weepy slow music.
13:38 "hopefully its a long engagement" lol they got married like within 2 months of this video so I think they got married within a year of being together, idk if this is a European thing but ppl are usually together for like at least 2 or 3 years before getting engaged and then usually it also takes about a year till marriage idk how they've planned it this fast even with help
Illia and Adam are seeded skaters, both medaled at worlds. It's a thing so that 1st to 3rd and 4th to 6th at worlds don't compete against each other. The seeds get passed down exceptionally in case of retirement. Adam wasn't a seed last year, which explains why Illia and him were together in French grand prix.
The sex symbol thing is coming from Max Trankov commenting on of the skating events. I think Maxim is just jealous of Makar who is really handsome. I wish Makar was more stable with her performance, he never was on podium of Russian Championship, and I don't think he took part in the international competition which is sad.
Makar was on podium of Rus Nats, he actually won silver in 2020-2021 season. And he definitely took part in international senior Grand Prix series but I don't remember him medalling there, he was like 5-7th places
This is my first time on the channel. The Korean figure skating story was crazy. I think this is what happened: This was all a masterplan created by skater B. Hear me out! I think Skater B wanted to get Skater A expelled. I think she was egging Skater A and Skater B to link up. She took the pictures to incriminate Skater A to get rid of her. I don't think she planned on this blowing up in her face. I think she will maintain that she took the photos to have "proof" of the assault, which is why she filed for an appeal so quickly. I, sadly, think Skater C was just collateral damage in her plan (which is horrible). Anyways, this was super interesting. I think you just got yourself a new sub ;)
Ilia and Adam are meant to win their respective grand prixs and that way they face each other at the grand prix final. This is done on purpose; it's called seeding and it's based on the previous Worlds results. Again, this is to ensure that the right people qualify for the final. In short, seeding ensures that 1st, 2nd and 3rd place skaters from Worlds don't face each other at the grand prix. 4th, 5th, and 6th place skaters also don't face each other, etc.
i think i read somewhere that the isu has a rule in the grand prix series where the top 5 or so skaters in the previous worlds cant compete against eachother until the final.
This video was recorded chronologically because I kept finding out new information during editing. So you will hear me found about everything in real time 😅
Haein released a message on her Instagram 3 days ago, which I’m sure you’ve read by now. Very interesting.
@@malhalsey4994 I feel so bad for all three skaters involved because it seems like something very normal for teenagers to do (drink, and have relationships) and consensual got completely blown out of proportion and misinterpreted/misunderstood
Russian TV leaves a ton of money on the table by not having reality shows about these girls.
Dance moms, with Eteri as Abby xd
Maybe it's not about money. I am sure they understand the possibility of a reality show and choose not to go in that direction. I wouldn't judge them if they went down the road but, I am glad they haven't.
Maybe the girls aren't interested
Поверьте, у них хватает и славы, и известности без реалити-шоу.
@ClaudiaM-om4em I know as an American that I would find it difficult to think of even one reality show celebrity I respect.
For some cultural context, it’s not that uncommon in Russia to get married young and the engagement often only lasts a couple of months before the wedding which tends to be a relatively straightforward civil ceremony. So this isn’t really as odd as it may appear elsewhere. They will probably be married by fall.
I remember Evgenia saying Eteri told her she should retire and have babies. Julia also got married and had a child young.
@@MsJubjubbirddoes evengia have a bf?
@@Dovelunalove yes Dimitri Chigirev Uzbek figure skater
While marrying young is common in Russia, divorcing later on is also VERY common. Russia has the 3rd highest divorce rate in the world. I’m not saying that I hope or think that Sasha will later divorce, but just pointing out that it is quite common in the general culture.
THIS!
THIS
Russian Journalists: We are SO happy for the new couple, Trusova (who has not won anything in years) and Ignato (who is sexy but bad at skating)!
The. Shade!
I swear if I wake up tomorrow and see Anna's engaged I won't even know what to do now that almost all of 3a is or already is married
anna is fruity lol
@@Win18794cherberkova? Is fruity??
anna’s already engaged to me wdym?
@@Win18794 whaaat??? how do you know this? isn't that badly seen in russia? I feel like anna would make sure to keep that secret if she is
@@ft7037She never said she is gay and yes it is a crime in russia to involve in homosecual acts
"Maternity leave"
eXCUSE ME SHE'S 19!?!?
Are you Russian? I am not Russian but there is a reason Russians speak the way they do and I like it. It's forthright and honest. It's funny listening to this person saying that being honest is "throwing shade" as if it's better to lie. This entitled attitude in the west expects everyone to only say positive things as if people are so weak we must lie to them. It's the "fat is healthy" crap that is lying to people. I am fat and I promise you it's not healthy. Its OK to call someone "sexy" and then say what their weaknesses are too because athletes don't need to be lied to. So now you can't even call someone sexy because it's "sexualizing" but if he were fat and ugly you all would have no problem if they called him a "sex symbol" and cheer it on. If it was Africa or an Asian country or the Taliban you would respect that their are cultural differences but you will never do the same for Russia who isn't forcing anyone to marry or have children. So what if they think someone getting engaged might be thinking of having children. In my family several of the most happy and content and successful among us all married before 21 and started having children. They are the most genuinely happy people I have ever known. Not everyone thinks the way you think they should and I am pretty sure many in Russia have varied ideas on how they view marrying young and having children but there is nothing wrong with Russians that think it's likely if you get engaged that you might want to start a family. It's not like no one in the west does this. After seeing so many in my family living such fulfilled lives by doing this it changed the way I view it. You all are so judgemental of every little word and don't even wonder yourself whether or not things are lost in translation. I guess you all want the legal age of 18 as an adult to be raised to 30. The condescending western supremacy towards Russians is kind of weird considering that it's a very safe place to live when compared to my own country. In my hood I have heard well over 50 people shot from my livingroom since 2020. If they survive the shooting it doesn't even get reported on local news because nobody cares. Since most fired shots don't hit anyone that means I have heard thousands of shots firec. I watch Russia host Games of the Future, The World Youth Festival, the BRICS Games, all this year including the upcoming Friendship Games in the fall and all of these events have over 100 countries represented because they are building culture. People in the west feel so Supreme over Russia but they simply aren't paying attention to what's actually happening. People in the west with their phoney virtue signals that will tell me as long as I am not guilty of "wrong think" myself that my fat is beautiful and healthy and sexy but 25 years ago it was sexualizing me to call me sexy because I was actually sexy at the time. Americans will cry about being sexualized and then post almost nude shots online right afterwards and still expect people to empathize next time they whine about being sexualized again.
Russian girls get married and pregnant quite early. FYI, Julia Lipnitskaia (born in 1998) had her first kid in June 2020.
@@saion5553 Their poor bodies have already been through so much (and usually are broken and malnourished by the time they retire), and THEN the next thing they do is get pregnant?! Sheesh!!
@@kohlinoor stop acting like they aren't making choices for themselves. No one is forcing them. I guess you think they should be forced into not marrying and having children. It's funny how it's only Russia's cultural differences that people feel just fine to question and ridicule but when It's other countries suddenly you aren't supposed to question it. I can understand why they are ready to marry and have children and go in that direction and I can understand if they want to do something else. The most fulfilled people I know married young and had children. My daughter was never as happy as she is today being a wife and mother. Even she didn't predict that it could make her so happy. It's funny how you are treating these Russian figure skaters like they are idiots but unlike most poor people in my hood they don't have to work themselves to death for decades at some shit backbreaking job they hate because we all understand someone has to do those jobs. Unless you die very young you are an adult far longer than you are a child. If these skaters don't have to work their asses off anymore by the time they are 20 then they are very fortunate. I always understood Eteri when she talked about the lifestyle they get to have when they are through with competitive figure skating. I don't know if Eteri was ever poor but she comes across as someone who knows what it's like to be poor or certainly seems to understand it. No one makes these young people in Russia be skaters. Many quit. Eteri has made these girls have more options as adults than most of us could ever dream about. Stop putting your values onto people in Russia. I feel sorry for people in the west that believe Russians are the bad guys when they don't really know anything about Russia.
Respeten la cultura rusa es normal para ellos casarse y tener hijos siendo aún jóvenes, son decisiones de ellos, en USA sólo sancionaron con 6 meses de no asistir a los K&C y en epoca de pandemia a una adulta Silvia Fontana y 1 año a su esposo quienes amenazaron a una menor de 13 años victima de acoso sexual del pedofilo de Morgan cipres a quien ayudaron a escapar a Francia y tienen continuos tiroteos en las escuelas algo que no ocurre ni en Rusia ni en la mayoría de países, dejen la xenofobia y racismo
Just as an FYI, people who got first, second and third at worlds will never face eachother on the Grand Prix except for the final.
ahhh this explains it. I was so sad but knowing there is logic behind it makes me feel better. Thank you!
As per usual more information drops about the Korean skaters a day after you post.
I was thinking the same lmao
Mone chiba literally Japanese national silver medalist, reigning four continents champion, 7th finish at world's overall and fifth in free skate. Her seasons best was third highest season score in ladies last year. She is one of the only three skaters to have beaten mao shimada in the last two years.....
Yeah, she needs to get some to get some info on Japanese and Korean skaters, that is not only the current drama. The fields are deep and full of very good skaters. But there's the language barrier, I guess...
About halfway thru the video you talk about wanting Ilia, Yuma, and Adam to face off against each other in GP competitions so I just wanted to say they're not allowed to!! Since they came top 3 in worlds this year, they are all considered seeded skaters, and therefore are not able to face each other in GP comps (except for the final of course!). 4th-6th places are the same where they are not allowed to be in the same GPs so Kevin Aymoz, Jason Brown, and Kazuki Tomono are all also assigned to different competitions
(Also seeded skaters are allowed to choose/rank which GPs they want to do so Ilia as 1st place got to pick to do SkAm and SCI back to back, which is crazy to me!!)
wow I never knew this!
thank you! Now that i know that there is logic behind it i feel a bit better about it haha
@@paolalaHaha yeah I think the logic behind it is so that the skaters who placed 1st through 6th at worlds have a better chance of meeting in the GPF. Otherwise for example Adam or Yuma might not be able to go to the final if Ilia beats them in the regular GP competitions, so it saves all the interesting rivalries for the end lol
@@sofia-lk9ztSort of crazy but no travel, no huge time zone change, kind of easier but could be not great for his ‘brand’ for others in the rest of the world to see him?
WAKE UP PAOLALA POSTED
trusova is actually on good terms with eteri, you might have missed it but it became known at the battle of the schools finale at eteris new rink where after her performance, trusova went backstage while chatting and smiling with eteri. after that it was confirmed that sasha would replace kamila in eteris show so she’s actually not only doing plushenko shows
Just a couple days ago Team Tutberidze published Happy Birthday video for Sasha on Instagram, so as they still treat her like a team member, I assume she will keep starring in their shows
Yes, I think Sasha is the only one who is doing both shows and is on good terms with Plushenko AND Eteri :D
That's wild actually
PLEASE PLEASE i’m begging you do a full timeline of the Zhenya - Eteri relationship !!!!‼️‼️ I need to know everything that happened between them from beginning to end i’m so investedddd😭😭😭😭😭
I am Russian, and it is very normal for girls to be engaged and married in their late teens/early 20s. Sadly, most of these girls end up divorced and some end up as single mothers (like the gymnast Aliya Mustafina, for example). I don't care if it works for some people, but I think getting married at 19 after a whirlwind romance is the height of foolishness. You are setting yourself up for faliure. And I say this even though I met my husband at 18 (we waited until 26 to get married, because, what's the rush).
The pressure on girls in Russia to be married before 25 and have kids before 30 is insane, and I hate that patriarchal aspect of that culture. If you haven't started having kids by your late 20's, many people literally think you're a failure and something must be wrong with you.
That sounds like Belgium 60 years ago, my parents where considered "old" when they married at 21 and 25 and a lot of comments during 3 years before i was born.
My parents got married at 19 after only knowing each other for a couple of months and got pregnant right away....yeah, I wouldn't recommend it. Maybe leave permanent decisions like marriage and parenthood until after your brain is fully developed, just my opinion though
On one hand I'm disappointed that the three musketeers (Ilia, Yuma and Adam) don't get to go against eachother, but on the other hand I'm glad because this way the three of them might get a gold medal
For the Adam and Illia (and Yuma) rivalry in the Grand Prix, the ISU doesn't allow the top three from the previous Worlds to be in the same gp competitions. They probably do this to ensure there's a star in each event and to give all of them a better chance of making it to the Grand Prix final. It's the same for the 4th, 5th, and 6th place skaters (technically 5th to 7th now because Shoma's gone 🥲). The top three get to choose two assignments each first, then it's the turn of the 4th to 6th place skaters (so Jason, Lukas, and Deniss don't have the same assignments).
Sorry for the long comment. Thanks for the great video!
This is going to be quite the pre-Olympic season. Women's has got me really excited seeing all the comebacks.
Also, how wild would it be if Jason Brown goes to a 3rd Olympics? US men's is so messy that it's honestly realistic that this could happen.
Evegenia is the Switzerland of Et girls lmao
except if you ask zagitova ofc 😂
I love how you love Donovan too😭 he’s so underrated ❤️🩹
5:45am here in London I wake up and you’ve post this! As someone who has followed skating for years, really love your perspective on our wonderful and bizarre sport - a HUGE thank you 🙏🏽
As a Russian, I always adore the way you prounance the names of Russian skaters almost perfectly!!!
GIRL WAKE UP SASHA JUST POSTED A VIDEO OF A QUAD LUTZ
About Trusova, five CLEAN quadruple jumps? Someone needs to tell her the truth.
21:18 the isu always scatters the top most likely to win skaters across the grand prix. it's a good way to get fans to watch the entire gp and to make sure the gpf actually has the most competitive skaters. that's why you never saw alyona, anna, and sasha compete against each other in the gp series until the final.
Most likely Samodelkina will be at Trusova’s wedding. They’re besties
That's for sure.
People are assuming its Haein Lee and Young You as they were the only ones who arent minors. What I'm confused about is skater B. Skater B apparently took a video of skater A, and showed it to skater C. If she hadnt showed it to anyone else and skater C was in the room, how is that an offense? I doubt it wasn't consentful... I don't know. The situation is sickening and if it is haein and young I am beyond dissapointed and upset. And if the assault was not consentful, I am praying skater C heals from the trauma because nobody deserves to experience such things.
Cause the report said that Skater A and Skater B were adults, therefore not juniors :(
It's a really sad situation tbh
@@another5669 It's heartbreaking.
Even if the picture doesn't leave the dorm room that's still messed up dude. And also wym you doubt it wasn't consentual?? They literally got charged with SA...
@@kazbrekkybar I was talking about the video. If it is Haein and Young, I dont think either would record recklessly. Also, its not clear if the SA was consentful or not. Even if a minor gives consent, the law simply doesnt allow a minor to give permission so it can still be considered SA. Its unclear until we get more information, but if he didnt give permission I hope he can heal from the trauma.
Lee claims alleged victim was boyfriend, regrets drinking
By KTimes
Lee Hae-in (18, Korea University), a female national figure skater, has been identified as the athlete who received a 3-year suspension for drinking alcohol and allegedly sexually harassing a minor teammate during overseas training.
While she deeply regrets the drinking, she clarified that the victim was her boyfriend and denied the sexual harassment allegations.
Lee apologized on her social media, saying, "Drinking alcohol was absolutely wrong, and I am deeply reflecting on my actions."
However, she firmly denied allegations of sexual harassment.
"The victim was my boyfriend when we were in high school. We broke up due to parental objection, but we reunited during this training camp."
She added, "I thought it was just playful behavior or expressions of affection between lovers, and I never imagined it would lead to such a misunderstanding."
Lee's lawyer reportedly said that the couple had kept their relationship secret this time due to opposition from her family. The lawyer explained that their behavior might have seemed strange to those unaware of their relationship, leading to the sexual harassment controversy.
Because their relationship was secret, they did not disclose it during the initial investigation by the Korean Skating Union.
According to the Korea Skating Union, during the joint national team training camp in Varese, Italy, from May 15 to 28, Lee drank alcohol in her room with fellow skater A.
At that time, a minor male teammate, B, was also present. Lee allegedly engaged in behavior that made B uncomfortable. The union imposed a 3-year suspension on Lee and a 1-year suspension on A.
B, who had entered the women's dormitory, received a reprimand for violating training guidelines.
Lee, considered the "post-Kim Yuna" and a silver medalist at last year's World Championships, faces the risk of missing the 2026 Milan-Cortina d'Ampezzo Winter Olympics due to the suspension.
She has appealed the decision to the Korea Sports Council, the higher body of the skating union.
Her lawyer said, "We will fully explain that it was light physical contact in a romantic relationship and seek leniency for Lee Hae-in's mistakes."
This is not the first sexual scandal in Korean skating. In 2019, Olympic short track gold medalist Shim Suk-hee revealed years of sexual abuse and rape by her coach, Jo Jae-beom, sparking the #Me Too movement in the skating community.
This article from the Hankook Ilbo, a sister publication of The Korea times, is translated by a generative AI and edited by The Korea Times.
In Russia the culture is for girls to get married younger. Also consider these girls have almost no education and their whole life has been regulated around skating. Once they retire they need to go to a new structured environment.
Also consider that Russia has the 3rd highest divorce rate in the world 😬
13:24 Anna shcherbakova and Alexandra have been spotted numerous times together post Olympics- they seem to be on acquaints terms
Paola with that TEA!
The Russian media is THE SHADYEST!
The Russian media is the most honest. I enjoy their forthright approach. It's weird how just saying basic facts means they are "throwing shade" and now they expect Russia to go along with the western world that now thinks its "sexualizing" someone just because you say they are sexy. In America they would cheer on calling someone that's fat and unattractive like myself is sexy and healthy but if they said I was sexy because I was sexy like I used to be back in the day then they would call that "sexualizing" me. Being fat is very unhealthy and I should know. Being honest about Sasha's fiance limitations on the ice is just honest and this idea it's "throwing shade" is ridiculous. I also know plenty of people in the west marry young and have children and live very happy and fulfilled lives and no one is forcing Russians to marry young and have children but it's likely they don't have a problem with it. I can understand why an athlete when their career is over might want to move on to marriage and children. There is nothing wrong with wanting to do this. I know the west pretends the age of adulthood should be 30 instead of 18 but I am glad I got to be an adult at 18. It's also weird how none of you seem to be curious if things get lost in translation when reading translated Russian. I know I used to have to use translators when I got cases as a CPS investigater that were often Bosnian and its incredibly difficult to speak and understand this way. You do the best you can but it's just not the same as speaking to someone in the same language. So what if some Russians hear "fiancee" and then think it's possible you will want to start a family soon. The most happy and fulfilled people I know started very young as couples and having children so it's not right or wrong.
I think they deduced A and B based on description of ages too…
Haein has restricted comments on her ig, Young has her comments enabled but there's nothing negative there so far. Lets see what comes out of it, and hopefully the male skater will remain anonymous.
There are some negative comments under the Young's last post. But the most interesting thing is that the number of subscribers is growing actively. I think many fans are waiting for the official statements and apologies from them but the girls remain silent
Couple days ago I saw A LOT of negative comments... Maybe she or her management deleted them?!
haein has posted a statement, her comments were surprisingly positive.
@@kkuralina what did she say in her statement?
Lee claims alleged victim was boyfriend, regrets drinking
By KTimes
Lee Hae-in (18, Korea University), a female national figure skater, has been identified as the athlete who received a 3-year suspension for drinking alcohol and allegedly sexually harassing a minor teammate during overseas training.
While she deeply regrets the drinking, she clarified that the victim was her boyfriend and denied the sexual harassment allegations.
Lee apologized on her social media, saying, "Drinking alcohol was absolutely wrong, and I am deeply reflecting on my actions."
However, she firmly denied allegations of sexual harassment.
"The victim was my boyfriend when we were in high school. We broke up due to parental objection, but we reunited during this training camp."
She added, "I thought it was just playful behavior or expressions of affection between lovers, and I never imagined it would lead to such a misunderstanding."
Lee's lawyer reportedly said that the couple had kept their relationship secret this time due to opposition from her family. The lawyer explained that their behavior might have seemed strange to those unaware of their relationship, leading to the sexual harassment controversy.
Because their relationship was secret, they did not disclose it during the initial investigation by the Korean Skating Union.
According to the Korea Skating Union, during the joint national team training camp in Varese, Italy, from May 15 to 28, Lee drank alcohol in her room with fellow skater A.
At that time, a minor male teammate, B, was also present. Lee allegedly engaged in behavior that made B uncomfortable. The union imposed a 3-year suspension on Lee and a 1-year suspension on A.
B, who had entered the women's dormitory, received a reprimand for violating training guidelines.
Lee, considered the "post-Kim Yuna" and a silver medalist at last year's World Championships, faces the risk of missing the 2026 Milan-Cortina d'Ampezzo Winter Olympics due to the suspension.
She has appealed the decision to the Korea Sports Council, the higher body of the skating union.
Her lawyer said, "We will fully explain that it was light physical contact in a romantic relationship and seek leniency for Lee Hae-in's mistakes."
This is not the first sexual scandal in Korean skating. In 2019, Olympic short track gold medalist Shim Suk-hee revealed years of sexual abuse and rape by her coach, Jo Jae-beom, sparking the #Me Too movement in the skating community.
This article from the Hankook Ilbo, a sister publication of The Korea times, is translated by a generative AI and edited by The Korea Times.
i dont know how i got into your videos as i'm not super into figure skating BUT i come to watch every one of them for some reason because you are just so fun to watch
figure skatin b wildin
I hate off-season. But at least.. figure skating drama never disappoints!
apparently, russian girls tend to marry on the younger side? I remember someone mentioning that zhenya's mom was concerned for her because she wasn't married yet at 24. also, I'm not sure that sasha and anna were close. they were rinkmates, yes, but if I recall correctly, anna has always mentioned that she was close with alyona and a few others, not so much sasha.
Alysa Liu coming back is still a huge shock to me, I thought she was done with Figure Skating for sure, she's one of the main reasons I'll be watching Figure Skating this season.....And of course Kaori Sakamoto!
I was so shocked when she retired tbh! I wondered if her parents were pushing her into doing something academic at uni as soon as Oly's were over, instead of letting her finish her career in skating first. She stopped so young.
It's a massive shock to your system when you stop skating, after having competed for years, and to make that decision so quickly and so young wasn't the best idea imo (unless she personally had, had enough with it).
I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact that AnnaS and Eteri unfollowed each other on IG.
Sasha has long retired in my book, in my eyes once someone no longer participate in the Russian nationals he/she has essentially retired... And she's an Eteri girl and over 18..... Every FS fan knew about the Eteri expiration date which is 17 and once you reach 18 you HAVE to leave Eteri if you want to even have a chance to continue your career... (what happened to Zhenya is proof of that). Speaking of which I believe Kamila Valieva already reached 18? She'll have to switch coaches if she want to continue or she'll have to retire very soon...
Kamila's banned?
Soft retirement is also common amongst athletes across the board; across many sports and many countries. It's to keep the sponsorship tap running.
@@weztzideboyz7579she can still have a coach even if she's banned
I have a theory: Trusova has been very friendly with Eteri since exiting the team, Eteri has openly said that Sasha was the hardest working girl on the team, hence the quads, Eteri has been trying to push quads in pairs with that other couple but it has not worked, I don’t think it would be very farfetched for her to take in Sasha and Makar as a pair, specially because Sasha loves a never-done-before stunt, and there are plenty of those to be done in pairs.
Pretty sure Donovan is training in Toronto at TCC, not in USA. Koshiro Shimada trains with Lambiel, he tends to get lost in the shuffle amongst the Japanese men. Looking forward to the season. I attended Worlds in Montreal and plan to be in Boston next year. I will miss Shoma.
Thing about getting engaged so quick for Sashulya and Makar-when the guy knows, the guy knows. Within a couple weeks (this is with a good, healthily attached, not-playing-around type of guy) they know if they wanna take it serious. They’re already considering their future with the girl. Now, everyone’s timeline is different, but especially in celeb culture, we’ve seen patterns that couples could be together for so long but never marry, and then they break up and marry the next one that comes along (Austin Butler and Vanessa Hudgens’s relationship being a notable example). I’m glad Sasha and Makar kept their relationship low profile, at least up to this point. I wish the best for them and hope Sasha doesn’t get too much harassment like poor Yuzuru’s ex-wife did 😢.
I know i can always come here for the Donovan Carrillo's support! Lol i also love his showmanship ans believe in his starpower.
Really excited to see him now that he has been for a while with his new coaches!
Just a note, he is training in Canada, not the USA
Wake up! We have Game of Thrones with Plushenko. Natalia Parsegova spoke about harassment, abuse, and corruption at the Plushenko Academy! "Angels of Plushenko" demands 1.9 million rubles from Arina Parsegova's family after the figure skater left for the group of Eteri Tutberidze
Hello, I am from Germany and was able to find more information about the people who are probably affected. Only two Korean figure skaters were part of the training camp, so it is very clear who A and B are. Only Young You and Haein Lee were actually there and must therefore be the skaters involved. In addition, a photo of both of them was published alongside the video, also made unrecognizable but, as with the video, still recognizable to anyone who knows both of them. In addition, A is supposed to be Haien Lee and B is supposed to be Young You. However, I don't know where the German sources got the latter information from and therefore can't confirm it. But unfortunately it's relatively certain that it's about the two skaters. Personally, I believe and hope that a supposedly inappropriate behavior is being turned into something bigger and worse. Perhaps they both did something that is quite normal for teenagers/young adults, but is judged differently for athletes in the public eye.
There are also indications that skater C is Seo Min-kyu (this year's winner of the Junior World Championships). But again, all information is without guarantee. Haein Lee is also said to have violated the alcohol ban several times.
The costumes in the pictures gave them away.
baby finally. I was waiting for someone who talk about it
I'm going to need an update after Lee Haein's post
Just FYI, people in Russia get married younger, but divorces are common and not that looked down upon, cause "marriage is a union before god" stuff is not really a thing here lol. Like only 15% of Russians believe in afterlife, it's pretty secular.
That is so interesting since they’re so religious and conservative
@@Annikidiary
About religious and conservative is a bullshit 😅
I mean it's just the Russian media (i.e. government) gives you that impression
@@Annikidiary Yeah I was a bit surprised by 15% myself. I guess It's kinda hard to be super religious and have national pride for like sending first man in space after Bolsheviks shot some priests and had muslim women remove hijabs. They are conservative in a bit diff way from usa, like for example homophobia is not justified because god wouldn't like it or hell ticket, but because of a HUGE ex felons population and toxic trauma coming from it. Also a huge amount of women in 40-60 age demo had abortions, almost all already in adulthood/marriage and for financial reasons, that's why abortion ban will never really happen here, since older woman are the biggest demographic right now. Like even our alt right incel misogynists don't really fly the "life begins at conception" argument.
@@Annikidiarythey are conservative unless it affects them
@@Annikidiary Russian Orthodox Church allows divorce . As well as Islam . And Judaism . I don’t get how divorce and religion are connected .
my god they were roommates
😂😂😂
lmao
haein lee has released a statement on her instagram 🤯
PAOLA WAKE UPPP SASHA IS COMING BACK TO COMPETITIONS
Maybe Starr Andrews will be able to get an assignment or two. I’m really looking forward to her programs after last season, where I thought the song choices were absolutely awful.
I love love Russian ice skating drama. They really should make a movie or Netflix show starting with Evgenia Medvedeva vs Alina Zagitova.
You said you were confused about not seeing Adam and ilia in the same gp events, but the whole point of the grand prix is to separate the 3 first places of last world championships, to make them compete against each other face to face only in the GPF. They are always separated in the GP circuit hehe
So it was Haein Lee but seems like a big misunderstanding as she says she was in a relationship with him as minors and had to keep it a secret because of parental disapproval. I hope she get it cleared up and the boy whoever it is, needs to be a man and speak up. The thought of haein SH a minor seems to be concocted by the KSU and simply unfathomable.
Yes!!! From what I've seen so far in Korean news reports, its really not at all like it was made to sound.... Haein and the boy had been boyfriend and girlfriend while in high school together, but her parents did not approve and made then break up. Then it looks like they got back together sometime afterwards, but were trying to keep it a secret because of what had happened before, on top of not wanting any drama with the teams or their careers, etc., and somebody got the wrong idea and blew this up a bit out of proportion...? (Again, this is just what it seems like from the reports I've seen.)
I think Trusova has experienced an immense amount in just the past 4 years…
I simply hope she is receiving the MH support she deserves.
Also I miss my 👑 Evgenia so much. Love your videos always!
Meanwhile the smartest 3A's girls, Anna, slammed the rumour about dating some russian football guy and deemed him as an attention seeker in her IG story lol.
Wow I’m so happy for Sasha
40:09 well now its confirmed that it was them and they have been marked out from grand prix assignment
At least they're getting disciplinary action. Nothing was done about Gracie Gold's rape, at least not at the time the book was written.
finlandia trophy hit the jackpot in all disciplines and I'm so happy to have all these amazing skaters in my home city ❤️ also gonna try to go and see ice dance free live because hell yeah catching both pirihara and turkkila versluis live!
Eteri's reality show is about big girls. You can see a bit of it here on UA-cam
Does she train big girls?
Send a link pleaseee
I’m 21 & have never held hands with a guy nor worked that far above minimum wage
Meanwhile Trusnova’s 19 and already engaged to be married and nearing the end of a successful career. :p
Dang these Russian skaters truly waste no time 😂
If you’re in the U.S., most people here aren’t getting married until late 20’s/early 30’s
@@d.n.8919lol ur right
Apparently the avg marriage age in the US is around 29, whereas in Russia it’s closer to 24. Trusnova’s still pretty young but I guess less so for a Russian 😗🤷♀️
Hi Paola, thank you so much for your thoughts. Just a bit of a correction, Donavan Carrillo move to Canada not the US (my guess is cause its easier for mexicans to go to canda since they don't ask for a visa). And though the coach is new, he has work with them before. All of this from an interview Donovan had with golden skate last year at the start of the past season.
1. Can't we just consider russia as collectively retired at this point
2. Alysa Liu WHAT. help aaaa
3. Can't believe you have forgotten Rion Sumiyoshi _again_. Well, the more fun in case she does land the thing…
4. ………wtf Korea??? no words………
8:58 l please confirm this costume features a fake 6 pack with the muscle definition being glittery ribbon
The sheer and geniune shock when you are just finding out abt the news with us is GOLD lol
I wish Amber Aileen did a more masculine performance, I feel like it would fit her skating style better. I also really want her to wear a pantsuit instead of a dress
Hey if you like figure skating you might like baton twirling👀 it’s another mostly unknown sport and we are making an Olympic bid. It has a lot of similar elements to figure skating with a short program and a freestyle ;) worlds are soon too, you could take a look if you’re interested 😄
OMG IVE BEEN WAITNG FOR YOU TO POST ABOUT MY LOVE ALEXANDRA❤❤🎉
Mis noticias llegaron!! ✨✨
Haein Lee & Young You!!!....That would be a bombshell if those are the two female skaters, I would be shocked!
It is
Probably the end of A and B's careers. With a minor involved, I can't say their punishment is unfair😔
one of them was one of my fav skater
@@Yurito12we don’t know who that is yet
@@Annikidiary its pretty clear... they even showed pixelated photos where you can see the costumes
@@Annikidiary I hope it's not true.
@@Annikidiaryit’s haein lee who’s athlete a
I really hope skater C can get all the help he needs and can recover
you literally carry my figure skating knowledge
i was waiting for this and did not get disappointed. i love your videos so much and they way you talk. "Evgenia the switzerland of the eteri girls"😂
All these athletes getting engaged after being with their boyfriends less than a year is stressing me out
Yeah, but maybe is normal in Russia?
@@PepalamarranaIt is in the whole of Eastern Europe tbh.
nice to see another video, it's been a while...I was totally dying to see another video of yours Paola La!...😶🌫😵😴🤯
GP assignments never put the top3 together, the showdown is at the finals
I ran faster than McQueen when I got the notification
Engagement traditions in Russia are very different it’s not as huge of a thing it’s mostly just saying we are serious
I'm not joking when I tell you that I binged half your videos and told my friends all the drama all in ONE DAY
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No me litterally, when the conversation gets dry im just like YALL WANNA HEAR ABT RUSSIAN FIGURE SKATERS??!
@@Izzybellebellesame here mate😂
I'm so happy for sasha!!
What about samo and tito just about to compete with their new countries!!!! And about Sasha, she always says she love kids and wanna have a big family so i wouldnt be surprised if she is already pregnant (that would be insane tho).
Just a genuine question. If it is Haein Lee and Young You there will be missing spot for the GPs right? So does that mean Sofia Samodelkina have a chance to compete at GP? And why does feel like the Korean federation knows that they might get 2 spot for the olympics (just like 2022 Beijing) soo they’re trying to “get rid of” Haein and Young to give the spot to Jia and Chaeyeon.
Sofia has zero points for ISU standings, so I doubt she gets two assignments anyway, probably one. But let's left the theories aside, Korea has a strong and competitive field and they had nice chances to have three spots for OG but now they are lower. So it definitely wasn't beneficial for the kor fed to get rid of such a popular and prospective skaters. The girls ruined everything by themselves, that's simple
doesn't samodelkina still represent russia?
@@avvnxie from next season, she will be representing Kazakhstan
@katehanyu6032 thank you for the info
I have understood that gp invitations are personal (basically isu wants not only the best skaters to compete but the most popular/famous as well even if their previous season didn't go too well), so if a skater can't make it, there won't be a replacement. But maybe there could be an exception for this, i don't know.
Angels of Plueshanko, what a cringy name. Boy he has a big ego.
He always had a big opinion of himself lol
@@lindatannock And the same hairstyle for decades.
@@iamsoverybored878 lmaoooooooooo XD
12:42 girl you shading too, "her first wedding" HAHA
I’m excited to see Alysa Liu back!!
We saw Anna and Alexanda together in March this year so I think Anna will be at her wedding (if Trusova and Ignatov even make it to the wedding)
I haven’t been keeping up with figure skating since the Russians got disqualified so who got suspended this should be interesting
All signs are pointing to Haein Lee and Young You.
@@artisticgirl1059 oop
@@Nikita_kca yeah. It's technically not confirmed that it's 100% them, but they were the only adult skaters that attended the camp and a Korean show blurred their videos of them skating at Worlds. Believe me, everyone on Reddit was shocked.
@@artisticgirl1059 interesting I haven’t been keeping up with drama and figure skating recently, so this is news to me
Hopefully Jason Brown changes up his music selection. Would like to see him do more performances like his short program to Sinnerman. Enough with the weepy slow music.
13:38 "hopefully its a long engagement" lol they got married like within 2 months of this video so I think they got married within a year of being together, idk if this is a European thing but ppl are usually together for like at least 2 or 3 years before getting engaged and then usually it also takes about a year till marriage idk how they've planned it this fast even with help
Alyisa and Kaori on the same grand prix event Yoooh I can't choose between them😭
At least you have a bigger chance they’ll win😂
@@Annikidiary yeah cause they are both my favorites either way 🤣🤣
The competition is going to be firee
Illia and Adam are seeded skaters, both medaled at worlds. It's a thing so that 1st to 3rd and 4th to 6th at worlds don't compete against each other. The seeds get passed down exceptionally in case of retirement. Adam wasn't a seed last year, which explains why Illia and him were together in French grand prix.
The sex symbol thing is coming from Max Trankov commenting on of the skating events. I think Maxim is just jealous of Makar who is really handsome. I wish Makar was more stable with her performance, he never was on podium of Russian Championship, and I don't think he took part in the international competition which is sad.
Makar was on podium of Rus Nats, he actually won silver in 2020-2021 season. And he definitely took part in international senior Grand Prix series but I don't remember him medalling there, he was like 5-7th places
This is my first time on the channel. The Korean figure skating story was crazy. I think this is what happened: This was all a masterplan created by skater B. Hear me out! I think Skater B wanted to get Skater A expelled. I think she was egging Skater A and Skater B to link up. She took the pictures to incriminate Skater A to get rid of her. I don't think she planned on this blowing up in her face. I think she will maintain that she took the photos to have "proof" of the assault, which is why she filed for an appeal so quickly. I, sadly, think Skater C was just collateral damage in her plan (which is horrible). Anyways, this was super interesting. I think you just got yourself a new sub ;)
8:02 I think what the Russian press means by “hold your horses” is in reference to her engagement being a needlessly rushed relationship.
I love your Videos!!
thank you!
Ilia and Adam are meant to win their respective grand prixs and that way they face each other at the grand prix final. This is done on purpose; it's called seeding and it's based on the previous Worlds results. Again, this is to ensure that the right people qualify for the final. In short, seeding ensures that 1st, 2nd and 3rd place skaters from Worlds don't face each other at the grand prix. 4th, 5th, and 6th place skaters also don't face each other, etc.
i think i read somewhere that the isu has a rule in the grand prix series where the top 5 or so skaters in the previous worlds cant compete against eachother until the final.
I wanted to watch Kaori and Wakaba competing, it would be fireeeee
when trusova joins angels of plushenko then what like😍😍