Tennis Clay Court Drama 2023 | Part 06 | You Are Stupid, You Act Like a Junior
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2023
- A compilation of drama and controversies that occurred during the 2023 clay court swing. Featuring Shuai Zhang, Amarissa Kiara Tóth, Yulia Putintseva, Daria Kasatkina, Erika Andreeva, Jule Niemeier, Michael Vrbenský, Marko Topo, Geoffrey Blancaneaux, and more. Enjoy🎾
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There is noone more useless on earth than tennis supervisors
Agreed
That's because their only job is to grade how well tournament is going, they grade umpire's performance and so on, but even I still don't understand why players even bother calling out supervisors, since they actually don't have power to change umpire's decision
useless ...yeah the spv is useless
I feel so bad for Zhang, everytime she appears in one of these videos she's treated so poorly yet she's always right!
I feel like when Asian players like Shuai and Hsieh Su-Wei are always in the right but yet the umpires keep attacking them with appalling reasoning that they aren’t able to defend themselves.
That’s still a bullshit attitude. This happens to every single player at some point, many times in fact. You don’t just retire, recollect yourself and get your head back in the game. That’s what your coaches always tell you. People paid money to see you. And it was the first set, horrible decisions by the umpire but also a horrible decision by Zhang to just call it quits.
@@alijohar4937 a bullshit attitude is warranted after a bunch of bullshit moves by both these chicks. She didn't have to do shit, she's playing for her career achievements not a bunch of drunk germans shouting bullshit at her so fuck that. The matches are gonna continue anyway, it's a whole day affair, but she didn't have to put up with shit.
She acted like a child. It was her own undoing in the end.
racism against asians isn't racism in a lot of countries
In-Albon not knowing (or at least pretending) that the umpire can overrule is laughably stupid
And that is putting it mildly 🙂
The umpire in the Zhang match should be fired and never allowed near a tennis court
Toth vs Zhang is one of the biggest shame I Saw in these years. Zhang should be refunded because the match was ridicously cheated. Disgusting toth, disgusting referee, disgusting public.
Toth did nothing wrong, the umpire was bad, but it doesn't warrant Zhang holding up the game for several minutes instead of just continuing to play, bad calls happen every day and 99% of the players understand they can't overturn the umpires decision no matter how much you cry.
@@kingoust and it was obvious Zhang wasnt hurt, she just quit, so its not even morally wrong to celebrate. Its not her fault, her opponent has a weak mentality.
@@Sahbaz83 Yeah indeed, the match was pretty tight until that point, and she's a much lower ranked player. Also, it's not like it was a walkover or anything.
@@kingoust You are dumb beyond belief. So it's ok to laugh at angry person and clear the mark without getting other player's agreement for it? How would you feel in that situation? Chair umpire robs from you points, then your opponent laughs at you when you are having an argument with chair umpire, then without you agreeing to it, your opponent clears the mark and when you retire from the match, your opponent is celebrating the "victory". Explain to me how would you feel if that happened to you.
@@Sahbaz83 You are dumb beyond belief. So it's ok to laugh at angry person and clear the mark without getting other player's agreement for it? How would you feel in that situation? Chair umpire robs from you points, then your opponent laughs at you when you are having an argument with chair umpire, then without you agreeing to it, your opponent clears the mark and when you retire from the match, your opponent is celebrating the "victory". Explain to me how would you feel if that happened to you.
Toth is condescending and that little half-assed apology later was purely damage control and fixed nothing anyway. And how can you celebrate an opponent’s retirement like that? Ridiculous.
250th in the world winning a round in a WTA250? Of course I would celebrate. As always, there's this double standard for men and women. On the same thread we're defending male Challenger players for acting as a$$h0les because "the pressure to get results must be overwhelming", but female Challenger players must be Karen Kratze Award recipients, apparently.
@@rafarequeni822 no, toth is an asshole she never respects the opponent. But karma will affect her next time
It was just one shout. I have no problem with that. If Zhang retired because of an injury it would have been different. Now it was just of mental weakness. I hope she can work on that.
There was some fuckery happening at that Hungarian tournament.
That Kastatkina line judge looked guilty as fk doing the Charlie Brown walk lol
Zhang is an absolute sweetie. It was really sad to watch her get treated so dirty like that. She did not deserve it
she really overreacted tho.
She's not sweet at all, she's horrible. Always playing the victim, always overreacting.
@@echoes222 Not to the second call....That was abysmal
yes she's right but the umpire is right too they have to keep playing. surely the umpire should've given her a warning for delay of game
@@HSimon1981 the incompetent umpire was the problem
First clip that I have seen putinseva in but she didn’t do anything wrong
probably the last time as well...
See that face, expect something bad.
What about last minutes? I mean after Toth-Zhang case
I subscribe for putinseva
Broken clock is right twice a day
7:00-15:08 I've never seen tennis go so hard against one individual than this one. Toth blundered pretty badly here, especially with the celebration at the end.
Especially? You mean that she did anything wrong or questionable beyond celebrating her pass to the second round?
@@rafarequeni822shameful celebration and unsportmanship conduct by erasing the mark
@@valentinzhou3572I don't think the celebration was that shameful, and certainly there wasn't anything unsportmanship in erasing a mark from two points ago.
@@valentinzhou3572 Lol what... erasing a ball mark after a point has concluded is absolutely standard. Zhang lost her mind because she's clearly not in a good place right now (pretty sure she's taken the rest of the year out after a 16 match losing streak) but to take that out on some player ranked 500 in her first WTA event was shameful behaviour.
@rafarequeni822 context matters; yeah, should Zhang have continued her complaints 2 points afterwards? No.
But in the grand scheme of things, she's one of the most loved players on tour right now. Even in this instance, she's gonna get support, and that is something you gotta think about when you react in a certain way.
Definitely was a drastic reaction by the community, but am I shocked? No.
The umpire in Kasatkina's match made a noise. 100%. Why does she deny? Even the crowd is saying she did.
You meant the line judge?
@@mran4754 yes sorry
There is zero evidence for your '100%' claim. There is no audible noise from the line judge in the video. That one person in the crowd (that is not 'the crowd') says she did, doesn't mean anything.
When Putintseva says another person got cheated, that tells you a lot.
This is just another reason why tennis needs to have some form of electronic line calling. I cant understand how a sport like soccer has it for balls travelling at maybe 30 mph and needs to be relied on maybe once or twice a match, yet in tennis where literally every shot is ~ twice as fast, it's not used across the board. Madness.
We love you, Shuai! ❤
Toth is back playing ITFs with her 450 ranking. Hopefully we will never see her again.
Is she actually THAT low? Great to hear
love to see it
Sensitive ass Tennis fans lmao.
12:37 omfg that is so petty, such a bold display of cowardly unsportsmanship
Toth isn’t good enough to win on her own
The total points won until that incident were something like 39 to 37 for Toth. Zhang wasn't overwhelming here by any means.
Zhang was on losing streak. basically anyone can win her. Toth girl lost easily in the second round lol
The Zhang v Toth match is truly one of the worst bits of umpiring and opponent behaviour ever seen in tennis. Zero sportsmanship and egregious umpiring. I’m more forgiving of the crowd because they’re reacting to what they see and we see things more assuredly with our numerous replays but the crowd doesn’t come across very well in this either
"We see things more assuredly with our numerous replays". I'll fix that for you. "We are so arrogantly sure that the blurry 4x4 pixels on a low-resolution screen seems to be out that we think the umpire who had her face 15 inches away from the actual mark is wrong". Most likely scenario is the other way, though. If you know just a little bit of photography you know how deceptive camera angles may distort perception.
yeah no, the ball was in you@@rafarequeni822
@@rafarequeni822 I know quite a lot about both subjects actually. Not entirely sure why you have such an attitude though. That’s a subject I am very unfamiliar with and frankly don’t care to learn anything about
@@kaikh4845Too aggressive on my part, true, I apologize for that. What I meant is that here on youtube (or Facebook, Instagram, whatever social media) people are always so sure they are right and the actual experts on the subject are wrong, no matter if the subject is judging tennis ball marks, vaccination efficiency or climate change.
The judge may have commited a mistake. Hardly the same time that happens. It's also very probable that it's just the camera angle which makes the ball look in when it was out, and it's a massive leap of faith that we're getting it right and she was wrong. You can't have that much faith in cameras - not even in Hawkeye; it does actually fail sometimes.
@@rafarequeni822 I understand where you’re coming from completely and I appreciate the apology. (Just for the record 😅 vaccines work and climate change is real. Just in case you thought I was crazy haha). Yes, I definitely concede the possibility of being wrong. I can’t ever know for sure but it’s the actions by the opposing player which also point towards the ball being in. Her refusal to answer Zhang’s inquiries as well as wiping the mark away. I’ve watched a lot of tennis matches over the decades and in so many instances, players are willing to cooperate with their opponents and even concede points due to umpire error if they know that their opponent should have won a point. Zhang is also a player known for being quite kind and fair and it’s unlikely that she would have been so adamant about the matter if it wasn’t an incredibly questionable decision by the umpire. Putting all of these together with what we see, and it seems more than likely that the ball was in.
even though i feel bad for zhang, im happy that people are starting to appreciate her more and more, and how putinseva even pointed it out. love zhang. hope to never see toth again 😘
Same referee that treated Corgi so awful a year ago. The arrogance on her face is what would drive mad a player especially when she was clearly wrong on her second decision. Referees need to be evaluated and fined as well, there should be reprocautions for terrible calls such as this one!!!
Do players get fined for missing a shot?
Toth deserve a slap in the face , cheating while smirking 🤮
there was no cheating from Toth, npc.
I am quite sure Blanchet is a huge fan of Benoit Paire, same words, same behaviour.
So many french players act the same way. Moutet...
There also a lot of polite and respectful french players @@Rumblingbelly
Moutet, Gilles are the same. Only Gasquet are the better behaving
A few examples of why even clay court matches need Hawkeye.
Tennis has so many psychopaths playing professional tennis.
Wow! I can just shake my head how Zhang was treated here. I am not a "refs are always bad" guy but I wouldnt have played a single point anymore after that decision. I want to support Zhang now and Toth is a disgrace.
Yeh I would have walked instantly.
Thank you so much for these videos always appreciated
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Love your videos man!! Thank you
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Has a supervisor ever overruled a call in the history of tennis?
Lol..
Wimbledon when Cibulkova tried to cheat vs Hsieh
zhang urgently needs a few sessions with a psychologist
defaulting just for one point against her
She was dealing with some mental health issues at the time. I think the loss of a close family member, if I remember correctly. She pretty much had an anxiety attack at that point in the match. I’m sure she’ll be ok.
What she said though is absolutely correct. That call was so egregious, how could she trust the umpire again? She'd be questioning every call from that point onward.
12:08 LMFAO I'm done 💀💀
Anyone else google La Chatte thinking doesn't that just mean "cat" and then were like oooooooh all makes sense?
Great video! I know in the past you’ve had videos blocked. Have you thought about putting those videos on other sites like Dailymotion?
Zhang got a bad call, but her coach should've encourage her to let it go and play. There was no way that call was going to change. Also, Kasatkina is a fair player, she thought she heard a call and didn't make a huge deal after she knew there was nothing she could do.
happened too many times to Zhang. this kind of obvious bad calls are mostly "rare" on the main tour, but somehow, ZHANG is often the victims of these calls
Next video: umpire kicks player in the nuts. Supervisor: "There's nothing I can do! It's her call!"
@@jesuslovesmebut8180The number of players who deserve a kick on the nuts by un umpire is too big to be counted.
LA CHAAAAATTE 😂 Is this Paire's distant cousin or something?
If u ever feel useless, think of tennis supervisor. You will feel better 💪💪💪
Supervisor indeed useless ,but they got a lot of money ,meanwhile when we useless ,we have nothing
Ah yes! Tennis drama, I love it! Give it to me!
I love your videos mate... Keep going 💪
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Toth x Zhang was gossip for a whole week and people acting like the girl killed someone a 20yo doing stupid stuff tell me a new news. Always mature and balanced internet behavior. Just chill out man...
The Toth situation was horrendous though, especially considering Toth's celebration
If you let a bad call get in your head that badly, you deserve to lose. It was a blown call and it was unacceptable, but you cannot forfeit over it.
At that point she’s playing against Toth and the umpire
Poor zhang!! She is mentally and physically exhausted missing home and sad to say she seems depressed. Then that awful umpire who treated giorgi awful one time and that very immature player toth on top of it. Really hope zhang can recover
Is it normal for players to scuff away marks like Toth did vs Zhang?
After the ball was ruled, you can, but you usually erase marks touching the lines, so they don't get confused in the future. That's why Zangh claims Toth knew the ball was in (indeed it was.. no doubt about it).
No one ever does it unless you're conceding the point.
@@seangates900Everybody does after the point is settled. Nadal, for example, erases every disputed mark once the umpire has settled the question.
I agree with her removingthe mark.
Although Zhang was right, you can't just argue about it for 20 minutes, when nothing is going to change. Remove the mark - continue playing. Looks rude, but it's the smartest thing to do to continue playing.
@@niklasfuchs4463and this is the dumbest respon ,you dont understand how hurt it can be for player ,the frustation will change your game ,
I'm mad for Zhang, the situation is surreal it's so bad
First of most, whoa! on pounding the racquet on that clay court. Second, clay court has less friction than hard court surfaces.
Name of Umpire in Zhang vs Toth? Thanks! Is so bad
Wow in the 2nd clip that line judge definitely said out wtf
14:41 is the cringiest "celebration" I've ever seen.
A Putintseva clip and SHE isnt the one raging???? 😅
miracles DO happen sometimes...
What about Lara Morgana? she apologized?
Sorry,but why did you remove your new video about Dramas in Wimbledon? Copyrights issues?
So many cry babies within French players😅
The umpire in the Zhang match was extremly awful. The opponent was also ridiculous..how the f was tha ball put. We could all seeing was in. I remember when this happened earlier this year.
0:30 she forsure said out but very quietly.
Blanchet said 'LUCKY YY ONLY LUCKY " in french and he took a verbal abuse lmao
and then he said something equivalent to : idiot/dummie. and he didnt receive any warning 😀
Kasatkina got screwed in the match. She had multiple match points Paolini whacked one a mile high in the sky it was going out of bounds, in fact it was over the chair's head heading dead left and some idiot ball boy ran onto the court before it hit out of bounds and they called a let. She ended up losing the game and then the match.
Lara thinks people come to watch her - she's argumentative and full of herself - one of the worst officials like that one lady that is always confused.
Blanchet a mangé trop de chaaaaatttttteeeeee 😆😆😆
3:46 And...He almost have the same voice of Benoit Paire.😝
Pourquoi tu écris en anglais engeance d'huître trop salée ? T'es gênant va dormir
Thats criminal cheating on Zhang!! Thats pervert! Zhang has absolute right
8:27 that umpire is dishonest and corrupt.
Toth should be the most despicable player on tour. What a shame
She would be if people actually knew who she was but she's only known for that shitty situation and people have moved on so no one remembers she even exists lol
she's a nobody that people will only remember for this embarrassment of horrible umpire and snide little brat.
Me gusta cuando las jugadoras NO se despiden con los chair umpires, cuando se sienten frustradas, que las perjudican o por mala educación por parte del chair umpire. Felicito a Putinseva porque NO es hipócrita y mostró su inconformidad contra el incompetente chair umpire Sweeney. Otro que hace rato lo deberían suspender por la cantidad de errores que ha cometido en su carrera de incompetencia como chair umpire.
Oh man Zhang
Toth..whoever player she is and the Owmpaire should be removed from the tour.
Refs be like it doesn't matter who called what. I'm the KING/QUEEN. I OWN IT ALL. I HAVE ALL RIGHTS.
Fans will remember the incident with Toth forever. If she ever makes it higher up the ranks, players and fans will never like her
Ball was Out understand her lol
fine umpires who make crap calls. See how long till things like the Zhang incident vanish from the sport altogether.
It seems like when the line umpires get questioned, it looks like they are about to crap their pants, lol. Just answer yes i made a noise, or no, i didn't. Not that serious
I feel for Zhang on that crosscourt forehand, to me it looks clearly in, there is no gap between the mark and the line. I can understand her frustration, however as a professional she really should have just moved on and continued. It would have been nice if her opponent had the sportsmanship to concede it was in and replay the point, I've seen players like Federer and Nadal do that many times.
Honestly, if Toth hadnt behaved like that everybody would be against Zhang.. it's very similar to Hingis vs Graf at Roland Garros and everyone hated Hingis back then even though the ball was clearly in
The umpire from the Toth match needs to be fired.
The whole vid about zhang 😮
what was ln-albon trying to get at? she didn’t go for the ball and let it move right past her 😭
i dont know who In-Albon is, but the ball was clearly on the line. She was right there to see it and still argued with the umpire about the correction.
I think WTA and ATP should penalize referees for that huge mistakes.
I agree with you 100%. And the punishment should be immediate firing of those umpires.
@@einarsd4As long as you get fired whenever you make a mistake (when you are old enough to work).
@@einarsd4 At least ban her from high level tourneys for a certain amount of time. Going over to the location and still calling it out was nefarious.
@@Funkytrip73 I agree with you.
@@Funkytrip73The most plausible explanation it's that it was out and it's just the camera which makes it appear in. I love to see how sure of themselves are people who haven't been less than 5,000 miles close to that ball that it is the umpire who put her finger on the mark the one who has made a mistake.
Those of you who are calling for penalties for the umpires, would you want to bet on a $5,000 fine if your comments on youtube were proved wrong?
Toth celebrate that fail win omfg
Is Toth happy?
The commentator in the Zhang - Toth match was disgusting.
In-Albon looks a lot like the Belgian player Nancy Feber
Im with Zhang on this one, it was clearly in, the mark was clearly in.... then they destroy the evidence. I would have walked.
i mean how can you continue when you're just given the middle finger publicly by your opponent and the ref does nothing?
Toth didn't even win her first main draw SET, and she picked up 70 spots in the rankings. If I were her coach, there would be a 20-minute lecture on respecting your opponent. Hopefully we never hear from her again.
I'm surprised how much support Zhang is getting here in the comments. Yes, it was a bad call, but these happen all the time. She needed to get over it, rise above, and defeat her opponent. Pretty sure she's the more skilled player anyway. But the crowd was reacting to Zhang holding up the match, and honestly it went on so long, it got annoying. At some point they have to realize they will not get the resolution they want, and they need to keep playing.
That Zhang episode must be biggest robbery in tennis history. Umpire did that clearly by purpose assuming she is not completely blind. Feel so sad for how the Chinese felt there. Should life ban umpire and big penalization for that no-brain opponent who celebrates
Blanchet recieving a code for "la chatte" lol it's not even a bad word !
@@jesuslovesmebut8180 It means pussy only if you want it to ! It first means female cat and it's used as an expression to say that you lack of luck (I.e Paire at Roland-Garros against Nishikori where he did not recieve any warning)
@@jason_35 Thanks for your comment. My French is not good so I had to look it up, I've seen native speakers say it can mean the same as "la chance," is that correct?
@@robertl426 It does indeed. If we look purely on sense, it first means "female cat", then it means luck but in a familiar way, and we also use it to designate a female sex also in a very familiar way. Therefore in context, the warning gave by the chair empire is a nonsense. What is important when you're hearing or using this word is the context
@@jason_35 Thanks for the informative reply, I appreciate it. Merci beaucoup.
Welcome back putinseva
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What is with all these Zhang fanboys? Zhang is legit always complaining and she's often wrong. Zhang thought the shot was out at 7:03 but she didn't stop, she continued playing. So why is she again complaining like always? Then the next point, the umpire is wrong. It's definitely touching the line for me but the umpire checked, said it was out and never came back to check again that's the umpires fault but also the way Zhang complains is very annoying and so I'm sure there's some bias there for the umpire not checking more because the way you act matters. And then Zhang plays the victim again because Toth removes a mark on a point that was over already. They played a whole new point and so Toth takes away the mark like every clay player does. Nadal and Djoko always remove the marks when the point is over because that's what you're supposed to do because you don't want the same spot to be hit and the umpire not being able to know which mark is which.
But Toth got so much hate all because Zhang is a professional victim.
Lara is new Alves?!
why is puntinseva always on these LOL
And wtf?? Zhang gets the point in the next clip, so obviously she's just taking her time.unbelievable that the ump allows it...and who were the commentator? What a silly dude.
Toth borrando la marca, por favor, que persona nefasta. Siempre que sale Zhang en los videos tiene razón.
As a french...Blanchet deserved what he took in his face. Takes one to know one mister "Toquard"
Lara is the worst umpire ever
9:30 who brings their dogs to the Tennis?
Zhang seems like a nice girl but people defending her like crazy is a bit ridiculous. She obviously isn't in a good place mentally and for her to hold up the game that much is inappropriate to say the least. And for her to start shouting at Toth for wiping off the ball mark (which is something all players do, and something she was entitled to do because the point was over) was unacceptable as well.
The ball was clearly on the line even someone that doesn't know tennis rules could see that. And to have the audacity to celebrate after your opponent retires from suffering a panic attack? That's a whole new level of low right there
@@cc4454 Yes the ball was clearly on the line, the umpire is known to be incompetent, but bad calls happen and very rarely do players cause this much of a scene because of it. Zhang held up the game for ages. I don't really blame Toth for celebrating infront of Zhang after Zhang shouted at her for merely wiping off the ball mark - something that is so custom and rudimentary in a clay court match. What exactly did Zhang intend to do with a ball mark from 2 points ago? It was such a ridiculous charade. She was clearly not in the right mental state to be on court, but the people hysterically attacking Toth and defending Zhang (including other pro players) are idiots.
@@user-gu1un7pb7k I agree. It's not Toth who's in the wrong here; it's Zhang.
Bad call or not, her reaction was very poor, in the extreme, and to prolong the argument for so long was absurd and totally disrespectful to the opponent and the crowd. She should have received a time violation for that.
And then to quit after that game was plain daft. Zhang is at fault yet almost everybody including several WTA players have jumped to her side and seemingly have isolated poor Toth over all this.
It's almost feels like bullying of the worst kind.
I feel terrible for young Toth and really hope she can recover from this episode.
Thank you for this comment. I feel like I'm crazy because almost everyone is acting as though Zhang didn't totally overreact. Bad calls (and even cheating) happens all the time, screaming and retiring isn't the right way to handle it.
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la chatte is not a bad word lol this umpire needs to be suspended. it just means "so effing lucky" basically. I bet he would not give a warning to somebody from his country who constantly swears on court.
Man i was hoping so bad zhang beat her.