What now? Bill English on a new coalition government

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  • Former Prime Minister and Minister of Finance Sir Bill English shares his insights on the process of forming a coalition government. Will we see another '6 week circus'? And what does all this mean for business and investors?'
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  • @kekerengu
    @kekerengu 7 місяців тому +10

    What a lot of sense Bill talks. Excellent interview and his experience in government is clearly evidenced. I do hope that the new inexperienced cabinet ministers can turn to Bill for advice and words of wisdom.

  • @brianoliver521
    @brianoliver521 8 місяців тому +50

    Excellent interview, Bill clearly knows how government works.

    • @paton57
      @paton57 8 місяців тому +4

      Which is 1000% more than Chri-cinda and Chippy Willis will ever learn as they are so arrogant full of themselves to ever take advice from someone that knows through yrs of experience

    • @wendyhicks5685
      @wendyhicks5685 8 місяців тому

      Sure does the double dipper from Dipton.

  • @GeoffreyMcRae
    @GeoffreyMcRae 8 місяців тому +11

    This is an excellent, insightful interview of an ex-Prime Ministry, Sir Bill, on how a coalition could work. It's such a shame he is no longer involved in NZ politics.

    • @cameronhall4309
      @cameronhall4309 7 місяців тому +4

      A small point Geoffrey, he is still involved, but in a different way - he has recently been brought in to present to National MPs on how Govt works, how to get things done, how to overcome roadblocks etc etc.
      Both him and Joyce. I think it can only be a good thing.

  • @brianalexander7579
    @brianalexander7579 8 місяців тому +25

    As a labour supporter, I appreciated Bill's discussion.

    • @61zoom61
      @61zoom61 7 місяців тому +6

      As politely as I possibly can be, how on earth could you be a Labour supporter after the past 3 years?? Are you blind Comrade Brian.

    • @brianalexander7579
      @brianalexander7579 7 місяців тому +8

      @@61zoom61 Actually I have kept accurate data over the last 16 years I know what has been achieved and lost under National, I am not in a dream world believing the spin from National.

    • @gordoncooke6785
      @gordoncooke6785 7 місяців тому

      Liar

    • @CallemJay_McNeill
      @CallemJay_McNeill 6 місяців тому

      ​@@61zoom61I'm still a supporter and member of the New Zealand Labour Party. Though I disagree with a lot that happened under the Labour Government of 2020, I focus more on the amount of good achieved by the Labour Party since its formation. In saying that, I'm probably extremely biased as my family have been members for nearly a century. Many of my family have also been members of parliament, most recently Adrian Rurawhe who was the Speaker of the House before Gerry Brownlee. I too hope to become an MP one day

  • @joachimpetersen2301
    @joachimpetersen2301 8 місяців тому +28

    Should have been our PM in 2017. A very intelligent and experienced man...He clearly knows how the government works.

  • @NZTrader
    @NZTrader 8 місяців тому +14

    How different NZ would be now if we'd let Bill run this country for the last six years

    • @user-li1du9iv9p
      @user-li1du9iv9p 8 місяців тому +4

      What could have been.

    • @tombroughton6943
      @tombroughton6943 8 місяців тому +4

      Exactly! We had years of surpluses forecast, and a Prime Minister in Sir Bill English who shepherded those surpluses into being/earned the right to spend them, and was committed to actually delivering better outcomes both for people in need of support and for the whole country, for the long term.

    • @micah1754
      @micah1754 7 місяців тому +5

      @@tombroughton6943 To be fair, those forecasts didn't factor in a global pandemic

  • @DanielCotterall
    @DanielCotterall 8 місяців тому +14

    very interesting interview with ex-PM Bill English. His talents, insights and experience should be used by new govt

    • @gooseypig84
      @gooseypig84 7 місяців тому +2

      This is it in a nutshell!! Bring him back into the fold. Luxton needs to have a trusted and experienced ear he can bounce idea's off and use to vet the books. Everyone under Luxton's first priority is job preservation - Bill's wouldn't be. Lux would get the good oil and possibly a serious alternate view.

  • @shanemckenzie2615
    @shanemckenzie2615 8 місяців тому +13

    Such a loss to the Public. One would hope that the new Government brings such practical knowledge into the tent so we get positive outcomes for all.

    • @bobdillon1138
      @bobdillon1138 8 місяців тому

      All yeah right National only give a damn about the center every three years they are a party by the wealthy for the wealthy and if you think they care about the rest you are dreaming.

  • @waynehawtin2299
    @waynehawtin2299 8 місяців тому +14

    You're great fella Sir Bill 😊

  • @ierikopj
    @ierikopj 8 місяців тому +25

    Loved this interview. Very informative and great to see and hear Bill's fantastic advice for the new coalition government.

    • @tombroughton6943
      @tombroughton6943 8 місяців тому +4

      I was disappointed the Labour government did away with his social investment approach to solving some of our societal issues - it seemed like it was just a politics-driven decision, rather than using a tool that could deliver better outcomes for people

  • @kiwitoffee
    @kiwitoffee 7 місяців тому +3

    Just discovered your channel. Thank you for such a good interview. Informative, thoughtful, measured. A most welcome change from usual tripe on the telly and the radio.
    Would be very interested in a discussion about immigration, especially regarding it's impact on our society and culture.

  • @Skankhunt420.
    @Skankhunt420. 8 місяців тому +5

    Labour produced so many bureaucrats all over the show who didn't do any work and are over paid. I would know since I work for a government agency

  • @malachibroughton9357
    @malachibroughton9357 8 місяців тому +5

    Bill needs to jump on Nationals bench as an impact player

  • @johncorboy2163
    @johncorboy2163 8 місяців тому +5

    Talking so much sense

  • @charlotteweber9466
    @charlotteweber9466 7 місяців тому +3

    Have found this interesting overall

  • @christopherclayton8577
    @christopherclayton8577 8 місяців тому +5

    Good interview, Pattrick. Sir Bill is very good value. CC

  • @hughross8199
    @hughross8199 8 місяців тому +8

    Great interview. Wish Bill was still minister of finance.

    • @banjopete
      @banjopete 8 місяців тому +3

      As do I!

    • @keithstebbing436
      @keithstebbing436 7 місяців тому +1

      Not to take away from Sir Bill English, but I found Nicola Willis really impressive, in the shadow role. Always knows what she is talking about, and I can't wait to see her in action in the new coalition government.

    • @HenrythePaleoGuy
      @HenrythePaleoGuy 6 місяців тому

      @@keithstebbing436 Why on earth wasn't she confident with her modelling being made public though?

    • @keithstebbing436
      @keithstebbing436 6 місяців тому

      @@HenrythePaleoGuy She was.

  • @stewartbennett4829
    @stewartbennett4829 8 місяців тому +5

    Excellent analysis and comments from Bill English

  • @PontificusPinion
    @PontificusPinion 7 місяців тому +4

    Pity we had no one like this in government for the last six years.

  • @brucesieverts1236
    @brucesieverts1236 8 місяців тому +14

    bill English nailed it, less talking and more action. but we don't need another tax .we are not a communist country, so don't punish people who have worked hard and saved their pennies. we just need to be smart with money and not waste it. at the end of the day when it's all said and done you need to take responsibility for your own actions. don't blame someone else if the cookie jar is empty.

  • @BlueDudeM
    @BlueDudeM 8 місяців тому +3

    Very interesting conversation thanks Sharesise for doing these podcasts very informative

  • @andreatodd3095
    @andreatodd3095 8 місяців тому +14

    Great interview and very good advice for the new gvt to take up. Banks need to come to an arrangement to assist first home buyers

    • @banjopete
      @banjopete 8 місяців тому +1

      Advice.

    • @wendyhicks5685
      @wendyhicks5685 8 місяців тому

      First homebuyers are stuffed.

    • @andreatodd3095
      @andreatodd3095 8 місяців тому

      @@wendyhicks5685 keep pushing for better deals from the banks through your mp's

  • @saxdearing3395
    @saxdearing3395 8 місяців тому +5

    Excellent cogent interview.

  • @ChrisHipkins123
    @ChrisHipkins123 8 місяців тому +3

    This podcast is just , people like us very good, thanks to you tube, but channels who disable the comment section, they better start enable.

  • @sinamumuta7910
    @sinamumuta7910 8 місяців тому +4

    I agree with this with Bill English, people sitting in the Parliament and offices their style and what want to do ,is not what the people are working, practicall using hands and feet running around in the rain and dirty,never understand what farmers are fear with ,their business because their hearts are needs are their,

    • @MZEMZU
      @MZEMZU 7 місяців тому

      Is English your second language or is your formal education minimal?

  • @rutherglenroad8109
    @rutherglenroad8109 8 місяців тому +26

    Probably the best interview I've heard for years. I dispair of how the previous government wound down the whole country to widespread inefficiency in the name of progressive ideology. Socialism has always been ineffective- when will voters learn?

    • @TheMntnG
      @TheMntnG 8 місяців тому +6

      socialist policies is what makes most of europe so liveable

    • @agnz
      @agnz 8 місяців тому +3

      Living under a rock has always been ineffective, when will luddites learn?

  • @andymck62
    @andymck62 8 місяців тому +4

    excellent thanks for your work here

  • @jasontoi8628
    @jasontoi8628 8 місяців тому +3

    Brilliant interview

  • @markaong
    @markaong 7 місяців тому +2

    Brilliant, insightful!

  • @blazerk.7189
    @blazerk.7189 8 місяців тому +5

    Some good commonsense there from English.

  • @incubism
    @incubism 7 місяців тому +2

    He is wrong when he says we will forget Ms Adern and Mr Hipkins. We will never forget.

  • @JazzfireflyNZ
    @JazzfireflyNZ 8 місяців тому +3

    38:14 is definitely accurate.

  • @KiwiSkipper
    @KiwiSkipper 8 місяців тому

    Thats a great question ... why do you need a 15 page report when the decision has been made.???

  • @lancetaiwhanga4127
    @lancetaiwhanga4127 6 місяців тому

    That was very interesting listening to Mr Key.

  • @krjames5880
    @krjames5880 8 місяців тому +8

    Very good. Still think a lot of the house price issue is related to the mass immigration policies of the last few govts.. I'd like to see some statistical analysis of the relationship between these two things.

    • @dubstepXpower
      @dubstepXpower 8 місяців тому +3

      Yeah I would say certainly, basic supply and demand. But they want prices high since most of them own multiple houses.

  • @user-rq7gy1xf3m
    @user-rq7gy1xf3m 8 місяців тому +8

    Wouldn’t it be great if MPs could only get the job if they had real life experience in the workplace. Just like we have always had to do our whole working lives

  • @subramsubramaniam1327
    @subramsubramaniam1327 8 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for your views.

  • @pinkpinkpink32
    @pinkpinkpink32 8 місяців тому +1

    Good insight. NZ needs change.

  • @donnrutherford7059
    @donnrutherford7059 8 місяців тому +1

    Hard to slip thru sir on introducing aluminum bill

  • @ericfaanoi2128
    @ericfaanoi2128 7 місяців тому

    You’re the man Uncle Bull

  • @adsdft585
    @adsdft585 8 місяців тому +1

    Have National and ACT, along with farmers, read the book " Main Divide" they farmers in the South Island . They show how to increase value to their produce and be carbon positive.

  • @stephendickson9000
    @stephendickson9000 8 місяців тому +3

    Did anyone hear what english said at about 25 minutes??

  • @johnts9136
    @johnts9136 8 місяців тому +2

    I always thought he looks just like Brian Adams

  • @suenicholas4510
    @suenicholas4510 7 місяців тому

    Bill will be a great mentor for the incoming Govt..😊

  • @user-ci7we9of6p
    @user-ci7we9of6p 6 місяців тому

    what's the difference between a coalition and a hired group of employee

  • @mikebarton
    @mikebarton 8 місяців тому

    06:28 ACT talk around them? 🤔

  • @stephenlennon7369
    @stephenlennon7369 8 місяців тому +1

    National needs to lift the foreign buyers ban to implement tax cuts which is inflationary and keeping the cost of living higher making house prices even more unaffordable for first home buyers but Winston is oppose to that which is why Luxon didn't want to do a coalition deal.

    • @dubstepXpower
      @dubstepXpower 8 місяців тому +2

      I don't see why they need to lift the foreign buyers ban to pay for tax cuts just reduce gov spending. We get taxed to all shit on everything, they don't need that much tax. Look at the budget and see how much money they waste. Gov spending should be capped at a % of GDP.

  • @johnjordan4647
    @johnjordan4647 7 місяців тому +2

    Immunisation rates have fallen because of all the misinformation during the pandemic. Same as over here in Australia. Too many people have gone down the rabbit hole. Be interesting to see if they can lift immunisation rates and evangelicals are a big problem to carrying out the delivery

  • @KiwiSkipper
    @KiwiSkipper 8 місяців тому +5

    Its not only the land availability, its the cost brought about by insane regulations and an Orwellian use of power over people's will and desire to be human.

    • @banjopete
      @banjopete 8 місяців тому

      Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Specifically what?

    • @KiwiSkipper
      @KiwiSkipper 8 місяців тому +2

      Well to start with, design and plans. Not that many years ago building plans could be done by the home owner or a builder. Now you need to have the equivalent of a masters degree to get plans through the council. You need to have a LBP (architect version) before you can even submit a plan and thousands of dollars expense to the cost of the house when in the past the expense was minimal. The Government has regulated out of existence, the Kiwi DIY mentality which we where know around the world for having. The cost of council permits is astronomical. Example 10 years ago a 380sqm house permit cost $3000. Today a Kit farm shed permit cost $3500 !! thats 3 inspections only. The plans for the 380sqm house 10 years ago cost $500 for a set of CAD drawings (10 A3 pages). The farm shed had roughly 40 A3 pages and around 80 A4 pages. Thats not including the plans that are now required for a sewerage tank. Lets go there. For 100 years, kiwis had septic tanks which would do a pretty good job of filtering and biodegrading waste ..especially out on a rural setting. These tanks cost $3K ish ! Now you need a "treatment plant" Massive things with pumps and aerators. The pumps only last a couple of years at $1K each and use a good amount of power as there cycle on and off. Septic tanks don't have any pumps or power connection so no cost. The treatment plants are sized by the number of bedrooms in the house but the smallest one is for a 3 bedroom home. These things run in at $22000 minimum by the time they are installed. Cost for regulations that where not around 10 12 years ago. Remember .. the effluent field is now spread out over about 600sqm of land that stock can't graze. This treated (good enough to drink apparently .. is being distributed under ground to be environmentally friendly .. when my neibour can have 100 head of cattle in a paddock across the fence excreting waste, ar la natural by the 20 litre bucketloads full several times a day each. So you know .. the 20K additional cost for a treatment plant over a septic IS in fact a regulator cost inflicted upon people. These is getting long and I haven't even really started. I'll tell you though that this same insanity is applied across every single step in building in this country. It is why the 380sqm house was done for under $1k per sqm and would in todays regulatory market cost $5k per sqm. Do the sums. Government regulation is to blame for exorbitant building costs. @@banjopete

  • @valthomsen2724
    @valthomsen2724 8 місяців тому +2

    If this was democracy, the only majority is a national/ labour coalition. Small parties are what most people don't want.

    • @banjopete
      @banjopete 8 місяців тому +1

      You all voted for MMP this is the result.

    • @michelenickolls5954
      @michelenickolls5954 7 місяців тому

      It is a democracy that voted in MMP. You are 6 in the mindset of First Past the Post.

  • @user-ci7we9of6p
    @user-ci7we9of6p 6 місяців тому

    I thought it was New Zealand Government, ????

  • @evotoodles7553
    @evotoodles7553 8 місяців тому +7

    Immunize Pacifica kids ??? What's that got to do with the price of fish brother ????

    • @Playboysmurf1
      @Playboysmurf1 8 місяців тому +5

      I heard that and was absolutely shocked.
      He exposed himself as a WEF shill.

    • @stephenlennon7369
      @stephenlennon7369 8 місяців тому

      ​@@Playboysmurf1😅😅

    • @evotoodles7553
      @evotoodles7553 8 місяців тому

      @@Playboysmurf1 signaling he's still in play to the masters

    • @bertgoat
      @bertgoat 8 місяців тому

      horrific

    • @charleswalker2484
      @charleswalker2484 8 місяців тому

      National are ironically a globalist party.

  • @Topseller99
    @Topseller99 8 місяців тому +14

    This interview just goes to show how out of touch we all have become under the labour government .....The adults are back.....✅

    • @wendyhicks5685
      @wendyhicks5685 8 місяців тому +3

      How arrogant, the best countries are governed with a holistic approach. Corporate waffle has its place but so does the welfare of its people.

  • @masksarelies391
    @masksarelies391 8 місяців тому +2

    I worry about the "immunisation" comment he madd at thd beginning.
    Sounds an awful lot like "mandates".....

    • @someotherfella5763
      @someotherfella5763 8 місяців тому +3

      We just need to educate the pros and cons of immunisations, particularly why they are a thing. By reducing the time and expense demands of basic preventable sicknesses the public system can use their resources for providing treatment for injuries, mental health and non preventable sickness. The line for a basic face to face doctor’s appt is so long that many miss out.

    • @charlotteweber9466
      @charlotteweber9466 7 місяців тому +1

      They worry about health yet they pass the Therapuetics Bill... Yeah jabs are not the answer Bill

  • @robbiegarscadden2311
    @robbiegarscadden2311 7 місяців тому +2

    Yep another reason why Bill should be part of the negotiation process. He understands the intracacies of the negotiations with the coalition partners. And moreso he understands how to negotiate with a wanker like winnie

  • @hainisuafa8049
    @hainisuafa8049 7 місяців тому

    Bill. English. Was a. Former. National. Prime. Minister. Of. New. Zealand.

  • @unixspice
    @unixspice 7 місяців тому

    So 60% additional health budget has been wasted on falling immunisation rates ? What about other health initiatives eg screening programs, mental health which your government ignored after chch earthquakes, what about the fact that we are adding 100k people a year needing health services .

  • @gordoncooke6785
    @gordoncooke6785 7 місяців тому

    Luxom said all blacks never loose under national, good start ,Chris to far.

  • @gordonpotts9642
    @gordonpotts9642 8 місяців тому +1

    All NZers want their country back even though the voting didn't go all that way.

  • @JamesSmith-qw2vs
    @JamesSmith-qw2vs 8 місяців тому +1

    In other words, nothing much is going to change, same old, same old.

  • @kylebeetham3679
    @kylebeetham3679 8 місяців тому +6

    Why are you asking a fossil fuel industry lobbyist his opinion on the government?

    • @blazerk.7189
      @blazerk.7189 8 місяців тому

      what Govt?

    • @paton57
      @paton57 8 місяців тому +5

      We need a fossil fuel lobbyist so I value his opinions Wokie

    • @kylebeetham3679
      @kylebeetham3679 8 місяців тому +1

      @@paton57 I’d rather have politicians working for me. Sleepie

  • @vickietuhakaraina1452
    @vickietuhakaraina1452 7 місяців тому

    We are customers 😜 NZ GOV is a Corporation 😂🤣🤣🤣

  • @williammewett5050
    @williammewett5050 8 місяців тому +1

    You lost me at ‘Kai Ora’.

  • @rjh6037
    @rjh6037 8 місяців тому +4

    NZ was unlucky not to have Mr English as a long term PM. Luxon will never measure up to the ability of a guy like Bill, Lux is far too woke for that.

  • @charlotteweber9466
    @charlotteweber9466 7 місяців тому +1

    You are focusing on the wrong thing with health, it's better health choices and repeal the Therapuetics Bill. If you cared about health you wouldnt pass that bill

  • @nzkid2599
    @nzkid2599 8 місяців тому +1

    Bill! What a coincidence!

  • @phil3306
    @phil3306 8 місяців тому

    National's foreign buyer and Trussonomics tax policy will be disastrous for our economy. Expect a credit downgrade soon, we cant afford tax cuts and the market knows it

  • @jimboniface7202
    @jimboniface7202 8 місяців тому +5

    Bill English you should be ashamed of yourself. We know the truth

  • @michelenickolls5954
    @michelenickolls5954 7 місяців тому

    Its because he would not negotiate in good faith. The last 6 yrs might have been avoided.

  • @grantanderson8221
    @grantanderson8221 8 місяців тому +3

    Bill ran down Health/Police budgets and didn’t top up Kiwi Saver to balance the books & picked up a knighthood for his trouble!
    What a joke and I’m a National voter.

  • @stephendickson9000
    @stephendickson9000 8 місяців тому +2

    Righto english, ill be in your home patch very soon. Lets have a beer (whiskey) and a chat about this.

  • @spidermek5416
    @spidermek5416 8 місяців тому +4

    Well, im no national. Im a green supporter. Im happy its over. Dont wanna listen labour this, labour that, we need change. Well, they(national) got their wish. I hope they deliver.

    • @agnz
      @agnz 8 місяців тому +3

      Most peoples engagement with politics is what force-fed campaign soundbytes resonate with their self interest the most before they put felt tip to paper, then it all goes back in the box for three years.