Just to let y’all know, there’s some extra chapters in the comic that mention the mc inviting the girl over for dinner. These show her slow turn from pessimism to slight optimism, if only a little. Hope that makes you feel better. Edit: Just read the most recent chapter. Oh God. Edit2: Nvermind
I have a friends in university who is just like this. He acts like that towards both boys and girls who try to get to know him. With time I got to know him better and I get how to act when he's around. But yeah, those kinds of people exists, and they are not easy to get along with. But still, trying doesn't harm anyone. Not because I want to "help them" or whatever, I just want to become friends lol.
Respect to you, friend. I am seeing some comments here talking about how this comic is good because it calls out those who do charity abd show empathy and is a "deconstruction" but your comment is a perfect rebuttal to these people. Doing good is it's own reward and most humans naturally do good to others for just that reason. Yes, it makes us feel good to help others and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that because feeling good for doing good is, well, good.
@@orboakin8074 Many victims think like that because they've been traumatized. Those trolls are literally just using that as an excuse and not taking effort
I experienced this with a classmate of mine. Not that she didn't want help, it's just she was too afraid to get help and ask for one. Fortunately, me and the boys are able to convince her to file a report. In the end, her boyfriend was trialed and she moved away. I still contact her from time to time asking how she is doing. She is currently pursuing a career in the law department.
I don't do it for the sake of being a good person or nice guy. I don't do it to be friends or to find love. I simply do it either on a whim or because it's just the right thing to do. I seek no end goal for my actions but if it results in a better effect, then that's good, but if it results in a bad end like fighting, send it my way.
Respect to you, friend. I am seeing some comments here talking about how this comic is good because it calls out those who do charity abd show empathy and is a "deconstruction" but your comment is a perfect rebuttal to these people. Doing good is it's own reward and most humans naturally do good to others for just that reason. Yes, it makes us feel good to help others and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that because feeling good for doing good is, well, good.
Worst part is, you can't really blame the girl . By noticing, you know she's going through some personal (probably abusive-related) situation (with a family member, or not). So getting mad at her for reacting like that ain't really the right way to go. Her line of thinking's too pessimistic, there's always some sort of secret interest towards one's actions. Sometimes people do good over a whim, or just because they want to, because it's the right thing to do. Is it bad to feel good because you help people or do nice gestures to them? hell no ! I believe not all human relationships are tied to solely selfish interests. Don't help people who don't want to be helped though, even if you know "what's best for them", insisting too much might just do the opposite effect that you want, and it'll probably wear you out as well. These kind of people need a huuuuuge amount of patience, but you yourself need to draw a line somewhere as well. Sometimes it is what it is, you can't change 'em. So for people who know or have people like this girl in your lives, don't insist. You'll just get burnt and emotionally tired. Learn where to draw the line before it's too late. Don't feel bad for not being able to help 'em, if they didn't even seem to be accepting your kindness and concern in the first place.
Agree, chivalry doesn't mean get stepped over, and for helping to work you need to also respect yourself, if you still want to help it's better to do it slowly and consistently over a long time, don't rush them with attention, let them process how they feel about your actionsand still call them out when they disrispect you, it's the best thing you can do to show a propper human interaction
Fell into that hole long ago...i lost my self esteemed when I thought I failed that said person who didn't want any help at all...but for a twist I feel like maybe I should help them in the opposite direction, that way I can look everywhere without looking at their faces
And understand how she acts, she could be getting mad at you so that she can relax herself (i.e. venting emotions...), but it still doesn't mean you should be up on her face for her to do that. They who don't want help needs time, however, if you *ignore them till they call you*, *you'll never hear them call you*. Not that they'll be gone, but *they definitely can*, it's just that they don't and can't call someone they did not met for any reliable amount of time until it's too late. Keep them company, keep parts of yourself while adapting to them, like be quiet, patience, active, positive but have some of your main personality. It's not about whether or not you'll miss a day with them, it's whether or not *things you do* can make them feel safe, they'll be more on edge but more inclined to receiving your treatment,opening to be a comfort dummy for their own likings. *Keep in mind, you'll know what would be too far for you and yet decisions are not gone, it's yours to choose.*
I think the PoV character did it decently well, they didn't intrude in her life, just tried being nice and helped in the little ways they could and was willing to leave her alone until she came back to him. Of course doing so out of "love" dampens the whole thing but if they have developed feelings for her being upfront and honest about it is the best course of action, specially if they really love her and don't expect anything in return nor act like they are owed something for their kindness.
_"nor act like they are owed something for their kindness"_ Not even basic respect? Because she more reluctant to give it to him than spreading her butthole.
He didn't do it well at all. Called the girl "cute" on their SECOND meeting even though they obviously look like they've been through hell. No wonder she thought he's just doing this to get some easy/vulnerable girl. If you try to help someone IRL, you gotta make sure you make your intentions clear, like you're not interested in romance or love. You just want to help them. The POV character is obviously interested in pursuing a romance with the girl. It gives off huge creep vibes. You know for a fact PoV character or some folks that read this would not help a guy in the same situation.
No? I didn't get that impression from the mc at all calling her cute may have been a way to try and make her feel better about herself maybe a bad way but really Don't feel like mc is a bad person
@@nickkorkodylas5005you're definitely really wrong for saying this just because she's abused still doesn't mean that she deserves it for talking like that please stay away from women you sound like someone who abused people
I saw thing in mangadex before and it really has an interesting concept that many ppl encounter on a daily basis it is still ongoing I wonder how it is going to turn up honestly.
Also the same response from some comments here who actually feel the classmate is in the wrong for trying to teach out and help her. For some strange reason, some folks feel it is okay to be indifferent to the suffering of others cause it's "not your business"
@@orboakin8074 because it's not their business. In this world, you either sink or swim on your own, relying on others to drag you out only makes you dependent on them like crutches. Every one of us is given exactly one life, one time in this world. Why waste it on someone inconsequential, especially when they didn't ask, didn't need and didn't plead?
As an Answer for your pinned comment Josey: YES YOU SHOULD! Had a Girl like that in Class in middleschool, she always was so distant, but always looked in my and my peers way, i noticed, started to include her in our group during lunchbreak, she openly said that she wasn't feeling right, she openly said in someones face if someone is anoying, she had long hair, she wore always dark and long sleeved Pullovers and dark Jeans or Skirts with tights and such (Goth-Style), we were laughing, she sighed, we were discussing things, she sighed, we were arguing, she sighed, we sang stupid songs, she sighed, we told bad jokes to each other and she sighed, but she was part of our group, one day she came to us on her own and tagged along, one day she even started conversations first, but she was always like the girl in this video, the last time i saw her, we walked home together, she lived a village next to mine and was always driven home by her parents but not this time, it was the last week before winter break, we went home together and she grabbed me by the Arm and asked if i could come to her home this once, i tagged along, at her place we went to her room, she said ''no ones home, like always'', we entered the room and sat down at a little japanese Style Table at the window, the whole room was dark, covered in Gaming / Anime/ Manga/ Metal-Music stuff, she switched on a little light on her desk and came to me, hugging me really tight, pressing her face against my chest and she was crying her eyes out, she was crying intensely, i just held her in my arms, time past and i didn't notice how long i was cradeling her but then, without saying something she pulled up her sleeves: Cuts, alot of them, old scars and fresh cuts that were bandaged, ''Please don't tell anyone'' she said to me with tears running down her cheeks and i made a promise, after that she tagged along with our group, closely near me for the rest of the week, even smiling from time to time, the day before winter break she said to me ''thank you'' with a smile, she hugged me for a minute or so and was picked up by her mom, never saw her again, she never came back to school in the new year, never knew what happened to her and the teachers, which i even confronted directly, didn't talk but she smiled...that heartful smile, i will never forget it
Sounds like something was going on at home, I hope she’s okay but since you never saw her again and the teachers didn’t say anything (very sketchy) I’m guessing that’s not likely unfortunately
I like this. Feels like a deconstruction of the easy wish fulfillment comics you see too much of...like...on this channel? Not to knock it, god knows we all need to dream sometimes, but it is fascinating. Id love to see more of this comic, but in some macabre way, Im hoping she still keeps turning this guy away.
Hopefully, like most other deconstruction stories, this remains a singular thing and doesn't ruin the existing trend of more hopeful and optimistic and uplifting stories.
@@orboakin8074 You just want to live a life where you treated nothing but shit... I guess you really do prefer living in the toxic shithole then anywhere else... pathetic
It is, but only to a certain point. This is clearly written as a degradation kink thing, but one grounded somewhat in reality. Because people like this DO exist, but they wouldn’t give you the time of day to even talk to you. They would much rather ignore you completely, and you wouldn’t have the will to continue pursing them.
Y'all! Just wanted to let you know, this comic is under development. The video seemed to be pretty much up to date on the comic, and new chapters/pages are still being released! We don't know how the comic will turn out, so don't be so down! It is an interesting discussion, and it's a difficult dilemma. I do love seeing stories of people getting out of and away from the environments that hold them down.But in reality, it's difficult. Some people it's easy to help. Some it's nigh impossible. Sometimes trying costs you more than you realize. But among the relations I've had, that remind me even slightly of this, I believe and hope my existence had a positive impact, even if those relations don't really exist anymore. Should you help someone that doesn't ask for help? I guess that depends on _you._ Assuming they genuinely seem like they need help from an outside force, then there might be no harm in trying. But as with all relations, it's impossible to just give and give. I know some incredibly strong people, who actually grew up and helped themselves. Most likely, most of the people dealing with hardships will not share them with us until later, when it's all over. I'm not sure there's really a point to my comment. Just sharing experiences I guess. I believe everyone deserves the offer of a helping hand. And if I could improve someone's life, I like to believe I would do whatever it takes. I want to see people be happy. Maybe it's selfish, maybe not. Kant is silly stuff anyway, you could easily argue nothing is "a priori". I think it's human nature to want to help other humans. I haven't been around in a while. I'm glad the channel is still here and you're still trucking on, Josey! Hope all is well. Life is a ride. Take care, whoever reads this :D
I hope to do the same. I can’t know what someone else is going through or what they’re going to do once I help them, but I’d rather take a very small chance I could change something by acting than a 100% chance I change nothing by walking away.
As someone who has reunited with and is supporting someone who has lived a rough life, it is very tough when the person you wish to help is having a very bad episode. They will express a desire to die, it is painful, and it’s not something that someone should rush in to try to help hold that burden without fully understanding the consequences. They will never truly heal, but those times where you see progress are some of the happiest moments someone can ever experience.
This is my birthday today. My mother has been drinking for 5 days. Nobody calls me if I don't call them or if they will be reminded that I exist through social network site. I have met a lot of good people outside my family. Some have shown me pity and tried to help me (which usually hurt more often than helped), others either listened or shared their own problems (that helped much more) and helped the way it should make me feel better from their own experience. I'm 21 and going to university this year. I'll build my social circle, try to find people with similar hobbies and/or worldview and through that I'll be fine. Do not try to help people in such states in a way that would appeal to them as condescending. Treat them as an equal and pretend to do not notice things that can be ignored (like if someone doesn't have money from their parents to buy snacks) or avoid situations that'll remind them of their difference in the first place. If people aren't willing to share what exactly happening with them - don't push it, that "I know you'd like to talk about it" is media bs trope. Do not enforce your will on their decision making (I know what is better for you - no, you can't be certain and neither can they themselves). I should've remembered more about it, but I don't. I'm sorry. If someone has to add something - feel free. If you feel I have made a mistake somewhere - write and explain
I'm over three days late but I wish you a happy birthday, man. You're a strong fella and I hope you have a great time in university. I'm turning 18 myself this year and I'm heading into university too. Take care, champ. God Bless. 2022 was a terrible year and I even tried to end it all (though, it didn't work, so I'm here now hehehe) but something I realized afterwards is... There's so much more to see, to explore...who knows I might even end up making some really good friends? As long as the sun sets, there's bound to be another sunrise. You can always turn your life around.. I'm doing that for myself as we speak... Nevertheless, we learn and we try to grow from our pain....You're not alone bro and you've got this!!!
This feels more like a reflection of our modern times... Where we are all going in the direction of people mentally/physically decaying, yet theres still many trying to give them a future and hope.. I know theres going to be some whos going be like "its okay to be in the suffering" at this point its more like rotting. Accepting this crupption, and rejecting others kindness might nothing but go in the direction of distroction of mankind.. Just as that one folk who prefer to "not existing trend of more hopeful and optimistic and uplifting stories," they will only be dissapointed the never changing law of One righteousness suppresses all evils.
And this is why if you're someone who is somewhat stable, you probably shouldn't try to deal with damaged people. Abuse Victims have had their brain chemistry altered by their experiences to only expect and accept negative treatment. You can't help someone who doesn't want to help themselves, even if they're not at fault, it doesn't change the fact that its pretty much impossible to force someone to accept honesty and kindness. Some people, will just suffer, fault or not.
There's a Spanish saying that translates to, "Need has a dog's face." In other words, people who're in the depths of despair aren't easy to help. She's bitter and disrespectful, but that's because she feels she's in a hopeless situation. She feels helpless against the constant abuse her mother inflicts on her. So she chooses to assert what little control she has by mistreating the MC. Plus she may feel misanthropic and distrustful in general considering no one has helped her until now.
Y'all want a not-so-fun fact? Her mom beats her up and sells pics of her beat-up body to creeps Some people in r/manga got curious with the fanboxes, and lets say curiosity killed the cat, and it was not satisfied with what it saw
The big problem that everyone is missing in their mind set is that whatever happens to u in anybody's life time, the longer u hold onto your trauma, the more harder u fall on your head into rock bottom until u truly forget about having compassions and understandings, and that's also why most people can't forgive themselves from all the ugliest times in anybodys life, sure its true that most people tend to shed crocodile tears for the absolute worst reasons, at the same time, there will be limits on wanting a shoulder to cry on, its what were born to do no matter how bitter of a human being anybody could be, we're all victims at on a lot of things that we didn't even ask for in life, but with having real understandings and too actually help one another as another human being, weather u had a perfect life or not, in order to truly understand someone's true pain no matter how bad their life situations looks, not only u could try to walk a mile on someone else's shoe as best as u can, but u could also be honest with them on your ugly times, weather its something big or small, and if that doesn't work either, well at least u truly tried with all your might to be emotionally prepared on what u said to some people, let them come to you in the end, because like I said, everything and everyone will reach their limits on being mean, they will remember the things on what your saying, its also because as their not use to the nice things u tried to do, but they will think about it later on as their brains are starting to reset from all the negative things they had too endure, so basically, they will thank u later on in their own time, without anything in return, to me, it's nice to do nice things for someone, and its already rewarding to me as it should be, because it's a good beneficial deeds to learn about human emotions, never forget that 🤟🏼👍🏼
The worst part about this is that you can't blame the girl here, she looks like she is going trough a really hard shit, the paranoia in that kind of situation is normal. Still, "You don't need to turn yourself on fire for make others feel warm" (Sorry for my bad english)
From what I heard... In the artist's fanbox is her story, about her getting abused by her mother, by selling n##es of her online to random men. I think people are too hateful of her. I'm more annoyed at the MC not because of himself but how he is a character comes from a place of savior fantasy that these kinds of mangas have. Though, I think she is also pretty ungrateful at times, but it is kind of understandable given her circumstances why she isn't so trusting of others.
Depressing as this is this is some folks reality. They’ve been through the ringer with the worst kinds of individuals so any semblance of kindness you do for them often doesn’t make a difference. They’re focusing on the hurt dealt to them rather than what the individual(s) attempted to do overall so they categorize everyone as out to get them in some way. You can only do so much and if they’re not willing to see what you were doing then leave them be and move on. You can’t help everyone nor is it your responsibility to. It’s just how life is.
A Licensed Mental Health Counselor will tell you that this is the only approach to help someone in a desperate situation who feels trapped and helpless. All you can do is keep trying to get through to them. It's very clear that this girl is being abused, and likely thinks that if someone takes her virginity her abuser (likely a parent) will just kick her out.
For people that think the comic is only sad there are more chapters and it takes a more wholesome turn, idk if more chapters are going to be made but its not a completely sad and hopeless manga
not helping someone is equal to leaving a dying person in the road people walk one by but some would do anything to not feel guilty no matter the pain.
This lesson to learn from encounters like these is that you should always strive to have common human decency and treat others the way you would want them to treat you, with kindness for the sake of kindness, not because it is expected of you or because you want something out of the exchange. Sometimes people just want to suffer, but it's not kindness to let them, kindness would be helping someone because it's what you would want someone else to do for you if the roles were reversed. At least, that's what I _think_ kindness is.
1:50 “your so kind” The protagonist decides to leave her alone and she asked why. I think what the *creator* was going for was her pretending to hate it but actually appreciates it. Of course, that’s only what the creator was going for, you’re entitled to think of this however you want.
As harsh as it sounds, the POV guy should probably just leave her be. You can’t help someone who won’t let you help and you don’t have to ruin your own mental well being by being bombarded with constant vitriol
Sometime in situations like these when the person is refusing help, violence of action is the best strategy. Being "patient" and passive could let the situation spiral out of control and get a lot worse. They may end up hating you for a time, but at least you got them out of harms way by being proactive and taking the initiative. All you can do is hope they'll eventually realize what you did was in their best interest someday.
People seem to ignore one simple thing: even if it's for self satisfaction of helping someone else, so what? As long as you don't demand something (not agreed upon before) in return later, don't humiliate the other person and don't expose them, the results should be what matters. Bottom line is: an ideal transaction/exchange would be a win-win situation. If you get something you need, the other person gets personal satisfaction from the act of helping itself, and neither of you suffer losses, then it shouldn't be an issue.
-People- Narcissistic virtue signaling pinkos keep pretending to forget that ALL human relationships are "transactional" to some extent and ironically they do that to put themselves on a pedestal of "righteous selflessness".
In the end they ran away together but the female mc mom found them and almost kill them then they woke up in the hospital and survived then they got separated but they meet up after 5 years and started to date.
@@toxin2396 is that your own way of translating the censored word or did you find some other source stating that? Doesn't make sense why you would censor the word kill. Unless japan doesn't allow that sort of content.
@@chaosdrill5175 I was curious too and tried reading the original manga, there is also one censored word (presumably a kanji), but follow-up words after that censored kanji strongly suggests that the word used is "kill" Edit: tried searching a bit, and apparently "rape" kanji can replace the "kill" kanji and is still grammatically correct, so back to the same dilemma...
you cant change/safe someone who doesnt want help. some people "like" being stuck at the bottom of a well. you can only help people to change if they trully want it themselfs
-read the real thing -"huh... kinda weird" -open the comment section -gets redirected -"wait what is this i havent see this chapter before" - *Regrets*
3:50 I beg to differ. it may not have anything to do with that person, but fully well he can do something about it. from being nice to you, to murdering the abuser, there's a whole host of choices they can choose to help.
It's ongoing, but the female ends up going to the MC's house, after being invited by him. Still waiting for further publication. She also said she would dump him as soon as she found someone better, so....
Kindness is selfishness, but just because the reason is selfish doesn't mean the outcome will be bad, keep helping people and cut ties with those who hurt others, please be kind but not defenseless
1:41 I bet you're the kind of person to write their girlfriend a love song for their birthday. I've never felt so called out in such a specific way before because I did do that for my first ever girlfriend. She broke up with me not long after that saying that it was embarrassing, despite the fact that I sang it to her when we were alone and I should probably stop talking about this uncomfortable memory in the comment section of a random video I found. The voice acting is great by the way🥲
I’d do it just to fulfil my saviour complex, just be upfront about it. Like yeah, I do it cause it makes me feel good and gives my days meaning, what are you gonna do about it? Not like I’m gonna stop. Yeah it’s selfish, but I’m already getting what I want in return so it’s a win-win situation.
*You really don't want to know what happened to her.* She's being abused by her mother, who also sells her n*des of her beaten body to strangers. Really depressing.
Some people are only accepting help if you’re solving the roots of their problems and will thrash at any lesser assistance you provide them, in these cases don’t waste your time. I only didn’t get why the protagonist didn’t straight up asked who were hurting her and went off to do something about it since they were so willing to help
Oh boy. This one's actually fucked. For those who don't know, I'm going to briefly make this manga series hurt so much worse. The author has a fanbox (think patreon-exclusive pixiv) with... nsfw "art"work of this character, but it adds more context. I won't post the link here, for obvious reasons, but it's so much worse than it seems. Spoilers below: . . . . . . . . . . From what I've read online (ain't paying for the fanbox cause it's fucked up), the Mom is abusing the child and making torture/gore p*rn with the daughter.
Looked it up, and yeah it's pretty much true. Although from what I can understand she doesn't do torture/gore pr0n, the mother beats up the girl if she doesn't comply. She's (mother) doing it for the money, that she apparently blows on pachinko. So yeah, that's beyond fucked.
"And what if I told you that you were right about everything? That it was all selfish, that I was just into you, and felt bad about your situation, and wanted to try to do what little I could to help- even if all it was to an attempt to distract you from what's hurting you, even if I couldn't fix it? What's wrong with that? What's wrong with caring about someone, about noticing something wrong and trying to alleviate suffering just a little? What's wrong with hoping something beautiful can spring from broken roots? I'm not perfect. I'm not a messiah. I'm probably a failed hypocrite about a million things in just the way I treat you over others. But, that's the start, isn't it? Trying to make things better in some way. That's all I'm trying to do. And I'm sure you'll admit, you feel the same. No one likes pain and misery. Being alone and scared of everything else around them. You want things to be better, too. So... let's try it together."
Currently reading it, looks like shes starting to open up to the MC which is a good thing especially when the bubble text is turning white instead of the dark and shallowy bubble text. *SPOILERS AHEAD, this is my comment about the chapter I'm currently reading.* Edit 1: SHE SMILED LET'S GOOOOO!! Edit 2: "Chapter 26" ... Edit 3: "Chapter 27: Page 1" I swear, who tf is beating her up... Edit 4: "Chapter 27: Page 2" I feel so bad for her ong, she's crying but the bubble text is turning white... Edit 5: "Chapter 27: Page 3" Seems like she finally admitted that she wanted to be with the MC, now I kind of understand on why she doesn't want her parents to get arrested, I'm pretty sure if they did get arrested then she'll probably get taken into a hospital or a healthcare center (or somewhere) which means she'll get separated with the MC and it looks like she doesn't want that to happen. I hate her parents. Edit 6: "Chapter 28" It's honestly cute on how the MC brought her lunch, that's definitely a `husband material` right there. Edit 7: "Chapter 29: Page 1" Now sure on what I would comment about the MC going home with her, it's normal. But it seems like she's going home alone, although she said that the next day they'll meet up again. Edit 8: "Chapter 29: Page 2" MC: “I get the feeling that if I let her go home right now, ill regret it for the rest of my life.” MC have to trust his guts, that's for sure. Edit 9: "Chapter 29: Page 3" MC recommended that they should run away together. But not sure if the girl's gonna accept it, though I have a feeling that she would. Edit 10: "Chapter 29: Page 4" SHE ACCEPTED!! LETS GOO!!!! Edit 11: "Chapter 30" MC: “this time I'll definitely protect you, so you can rest easy.” MC is low-key a guardian angel for her, and HER SMILE!! IT'S SO CUTE!!! Edit 12: "Chapter 31" That says it, the fact that her parents never allowed her to go on family trips nor school field trips indicates that they're extremely strict.
@@ouchman6966 yeah but the recent chapters is fucked up. Technically both the MC and the girl ran away so that they could probably live a peaceful life I'm assuming, MC confessed his love towards the girl but then the mom came and she was holding a knife. Not entirely sure what happened next but the scene cuts into the perspective of the MC being in a hospital bed (i think).
@@Cai7S that's progression, there'll probably be a guilt trip arc where she feels responsible for guy getting stabbed but the girl just has to figure out where her priorities are now and not fear confrontation. Fingers crossed for this manga lol.
@@ouchman6966 I'm honestly hoping that the girl is safe, I'm sure that's what the MC would say too. Her mother is a complete psychopath, holding a knife and almost stabbing her daughter just because she ran away with the MC is fucked up.
Hey, just want to point out a few things that bugged me. This voiceover misses the last 2 pages of the comic that are listed with the others on the sources, they change the way the story should be seen significantly so I recommend checking them out. Also the story is called "I'm Worried About My Classmate Who's Covered in Bruises" not "I Hate your Pity" (it's in the end card but I just thought it was an odd detail.)
Thanks. I think if you take someone's original work, you shouldn't try to pass it off as your own or try to change their work. At the very least you should credit them properly. This video is theft.
Personally don't mind the title. Not only can the title of a video be changed really easily, but also it's not entirely uncommon for authors of manga to change their works' titles later on.
The thing with the most of what she says is that it is partially true in a meta perspective, but it's hardly a good "mindset" for any person. As for pity... i hate it too, for the sole reason that by its nature you are either above or below in that cursed relationship, there are no equals in that, you are either the one bellow, being pitied or the one above pitiying another. I don't think that the person you trully and genuinly care about should be bellow or above you, so pitying them is against my ideals. As for pitying others, well why would pity ones i don't care about? It's not like i would do something for them, since as we already established that i don't care about them. Not to mention other averse effects of pity that are common to other dependant relationships. It's not to say that i don't have sympathy for those in worse situation to me, it's simply that i don't think that pitying them is the right thing to do. Help? Sure thing, i will help proportionately to how much i care about someone. As for pity? Pity won't help anyone.
There was a borderline homeless druggie girl I worked with at my very first job. She was in as bad of a state as you can imagine. She told me about terrible things that happened, happen, and will continue to happen to her. I wasn't the one who offered to help, I simply witnessed it. Part of that was my manager at the time offering her the job in the first place. Nevertheless she wouldn't accept any other advice or forms of help. Pride, Stockholm, addiction, fear, there were many reasons. But ultimately there was nothing my manager could do for her. And since she didn't improve, she was eventually fired by another manager. There's usually no harm in trying, but life isnt some fairytale with only happy endings either. I still think about it from time to time.
If anyone is reading this don't bully this person, they aren't ready to help people, and that is fine to be not willing to help others, as long as they don't hurt others they are not evil just tired, i hope you all the best and please stay kind but not defenseless
This kind of situation is like the pillar. (I made this up) If you exhert yourself to push the pillar up, you waste your energy. If you run out, it crushes you. But if you do nothing, the situation will not change. The inevitable can only be delayed by those of great perserverance. Atlas could not rest. Sisyphus could not rest, for their punishments were eternal. Why then, must you, a mortal with such little time to live, give up, even if the chance of helping someone is slim, and they practically beg you to stop trying. If we all just gave up, then no abuse case would ever be resolved. *_"You never know what is in the heart of a stranger. They can lie to you, about their intentions for centuries as long as they get what they want in the end."_* But if you keep your shield up infront of your face, you can see neither friend nor foe, no? How can you really be sure.... Is it naiivety, if there's a chance you may gain a single friend as opposed to being alone? Edit: I read the post of someone below me. They're actually making alot of sense as to why this approach doesn't always work. Basically if she says no, forcing your kindness onto her will just make you the exact kind of person she thinks you are. If she says it's none of your business, then rest your case. You let go, but the pillar hovers over you, as you look up to see the hand of the person who's burden you've taken for yourself.
Just saying something... I hate people when they pity me. It is not their business to look down on me and feel sorry for me when they have not gone through anything I did and pretend to understand it. I hate when they say 'I feel you bro' Even though they do not have even a slightest chance of knowing how I feel with the constant suffering that my illness hinders me with. I am fine with them supporting me... But pity is something I despise.
try to give them to benefit of the doubt and look past their words and more towards their intentions, they mean well, most the time they just dont know how to put it into words, they dont mean to "pity" you and look down on you, or try to say they relate to your pain and know exactly what its like, they just want you to know that they're there and they understand WHY youre struggling, that doesn't mean they know what youre struggling feels like, and i highly doubt thats what they're trying to get across when they say "i understand" or "i feel you bro" communication is hard, so try to assume youre friends are on your side when they say stuff like that
nah, you just have to fake smile trust me it's work everytime unless the whole society just look at you having bad day and become upset. I am not sure but some people become so upset and annoying when they try talk to you during bad time, honestly I hate this type of people goes crazy around people during they have serious problem while making offensive joke
Sometimes it’s not pity but rather they want to give what they can never receive in the later end; a feeling that somebody cares and knows them, the familiarity that comes from unexpected places, i believe.
"Look Down" and "Feel Sorry" *Are Two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT Things* One Is Having Bad Intention, Feeling Themselves "Superior" ... Therefore, Won't Really Do Anything For You And The Other One Is Coming From Empathy, Have A Genuine Good Reason... And Will Try To Help You, Within Their Limitations One Give You Absolutely NOTHING, And One Want To Help You With Something... . Now IF You Really "Having A Bad Fate" You Won't Disregard Other People's Kindness Like That... People Who Already KNOW SUFFERING... Can Differentiate Between Fake People And Genuinely Good One If You Can't See Any Difference, *Then Simply STAY AWAY From People... So You Won't Get Bothered By Them* Easy, Right? That's What I Did Back Then, "Having Absolutely No One But Myself" ,, And It Working Out Just Fine... I Can Still Buy Expensive Stuffs With My Own Money (don't ask where I get it, At Least I'm Not Robbing or Scamming People, I Have Dignity)
Helping people brings me comfort, yes, ie I enjoy doing this to see you bloom into the riotous woman you can be, but its up to you. If all you want is intercorourse, you know where to find me
Yeah. At least her classmate is doing some much needed reaching out to her and though she rejects and insults him, he is trying and that matters far more than most folks understand. He could be like the other students and just be indifferent but he doesn't.
Doesn't matter how worried you get, you will never be able to help this kind of people. The mc here's lucky she's just depressed and didn't start manipulating him.
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Lemme know what you think of this should you help someone that doesn't ask for help?
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Sometimes you should. It depends on the situation.
Can only help someone who wants to help themselves. You can stress something, put your foot down, but the final say is theirs.
Perhaps
To wish to be well is a part of becoming well.
Nah
They already gone
Just to let y’all know, there’s some extra chapters in the comic that mention the mc inviting the girl over for dinner. These show her slow turn from pessimism to slight optimism, if only a little. Hope that makes you feel better.
Edit: Just read the most recent chapter. Oh God.
Edit2: Nvermind
PLEASS GIVE ME THE LINK
PLEEEEEASE, KNIGHTMARE
@@urboi6307 there is a link in the description
@@urboi6307 Calm down, the description has it
@@knightmare5097 o lol
Respect for the MC’s sheer patience and loyalty to be near this poor girl of pessimism in this comic
si, amigo te prometo que a la segunda la mandaba alv
Man, you really can't help someone who doesnt want to be helped.
Yeah, you can’t save everyone…
@@theloreoverseer7106 Not always your job to save them - or your business. There's a lesson in this.
@@D3wd20p ehhh, I see but I'm not really sure about that though.
@@D3wd20p better to try saving them and be rejected than to be an indifferent apathetic person.
But that doesn't mean you shouldn't try to
"Yes, I'm selfish, so I don't care what you think. Give up and take my help. And eat that f****** food, I hate when it goes to waste."
real shit
"You are being rescued, please do not resist"
@@eta_carithebrightlord3396 I ship it😭😭😭
It's like tryn'a save someone from drowning, and they keep wolf trudging.
Great minds think alike
I can’t tell if the censored word is “fuck” or “kill.” Kill makes more sense, but it sounds more like fuck.
It's "kill"
it doesn't sound like fuck at all.... did you miss the considerable amount of times she said she didn't like or want that?
Sorry, I don’t have the best of hearing and the fact that “kill” is censored feels weird to me.
@@Silver_Sonic_23the original translation censored it as well, for some reason the censor used at the last one makes it sound like fuck
@@shayoko6 nah at the same time it still make sense context wise could you fuck me? No you can’t
I have a friends in university who is just like this. He acts like that towards both boys and girls who try to get to know him.
With time I got to know him better and I get how to act when he's around. But yeah, those kinds of people exists, and they are not easy to get along with. But still, trying doesn't harm anyone. Not because I want to "help them" or whatever, I just want to become friends lol.
Respect to you, friend. I am seeing some comments here talking about how this comic is good because it calls out those who do charity abd show empathy and is a "deconstruction" but your comment is a perfect rebuttal to these people. Doing good is it's own reward and most humans naturally do good to others for just that reason. Yes, it makes us feel good to help others and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that because feeling good for doing good is, well, good.
@@orboakin8074 Many victims think like that because they've been traumatized. Those trolls are literally just using that as an excuse and not taking effort
@orbo Akin You just summarized all the main religions' philosophies as to why we must do good things.
Respect 💎💚👍🏿🙏🏿✨💫⭐️
@@orboakin8074 this is just self-serving hedonism.
I experienced this with a classmate of mine. Not that she didn't want help, it's just she was too afraid to get help and ask for one. Fortunately, me and the boys are able to convince her to file a report. In the end, her boyfriend was trialed and she moved away. I still contact her from time to time asking how she is doing. She is currently pursuing a career in the law department.
You’re a w person for that
A real sigma.
The fact that she took law. What a W
The boys truly fighting for justice
W
I don't do it for the sake of being a good person or nice guy. I don't do it to be friends or to find love. I simply do it either on a whim or because it's just the right thing to do. I seek no end goal for my actions but if it results in a better effect, then that's good, but if it results in a bad end like fighting, send it my way.
I feel exactly the same way bro
Respect to you, friend. I am seeing some comments here talking about how this comic is good because it calls out those who do charity abd show empathy and is a "deconstruction" but your comment is a perfect rebuttal to these people. Doing good is it's own reward and most humans naturally do good to others for just that reason. Yes, it makes us feel good to help others and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that because feeling good for doing good is, well, good.
Dunno why but sometimes I have the urge to help someone if I see them in trouble.
@@orboakin8074 We don't even get to find out why the MC's motives are, it's all just her assuming the worst.
@Thiti Hiranyakart we call that being a decent human being. Keep being yourself because odds are you are doing good.
Worst part is, you can't really blame the girl . By noticing, you know she's going through some personal (probably abusive-related) situation (with a family member, or not). So getting mad at her for reacting like that ain't really the right way to go. Her line of thinking's too pessimistic, there's always some sort of secret interest towards one's actions. Sometimes people do good over a whim, or just because they want to, because it's the right thing to do. Is it bad to feel good because you help people or do nice gestures to them? hell no ! I believe not all human relationships are tied to solely selfish interests.
Don't help people who don't want to be helped though, even if you know "what's best for them", insisting too much might just do the opposite effect that you want, and it'll probably wear you out as well. These kind of people need a huuuuuge amount of patience, but you yourself need to draw a line somewhere as well. Sometimes it is what it is, you can't change 'em.
So for people who know or have people like this girl in your lives, don't insist. You'll just get burnt and emotionally tired. Learn where to draw the line before it's too late. Don't feel bad for not being able to help 'em, if they didn't even seem to be accepting your kindness and concern in the first place.
Agree, chivalry doesn't mean get stepped over, and for helping to work you need to also respect yourself, if you still want to help it's better to do it slowly and consistently over a long time, don't rush them with attention, let them process how they feel about your actionsand still call them out when they disrispect you, it's the best thing you can do to show a propper human interaction
I fell into this trap before. You’ve summed it up perfectly
Fell into that hole long ago...i lost my self esteemed when I thought I failed that said person who didn't want any help at all...but for a twist I feel like maybe I should help them in the opposite direction, that way I can look everywhere without looking at their faces
And understand how she acts, she could be getting mad at you so that she can relax herself
(i.e. venting emotions...), but it still doesn't mean you should be up on her face for her to do that.
They who don't want help needs time, however, if you *ignore them till they call you*, *you'll never hear them call you*. Not that they'll be gone, but *they definitely can*, it's just that they don't and can't call someone they did not met for any reliable amount of time until it's too late.
Keep them company, keep parts of yourself while adapting to them, like be quiet, patience, active, positive but have some of your main personality. It's not about whether or not you'll miss a day with them, it's whether or not *things you do* can make them feel safe, they'll be more on edge but more inclined to receiving your treatment,opening to be a comfort dummy for their own likings.
*Keep in mind, you'll know what would be too far for you and yet decisions are not gone, it's yours to choose.*
@@LilPale there are.... so many wrong things in your speech, similar to how *Dream* made an entire paragaph not worth reading
this is too depressing, i was waiting for the part where she became less cynical and hateful. but it never came. damn this was hard to finish....
You can’t save everyone.
@@theloreoverseer7106 You don't need to save all of them, just those people that you know will help other people after being saved.
Some people just want to fall and be misrable. Better save your energy for people that want / need it.
The Voiceover left out the 2 pages after that show this.
@@kalibhi1770 wait, show what? Does she end up more miserable and nihilistic? If so, yeah. I guess that is how it is with some people.
I think the PoV character did it decently well, they didn't intrude in her life, just tried being nice and helped in the little ways they could and was willing to leave her alone until she came back to him.
Of course doing so out of "love" dampens the whole thing but if they have developed feelings for her being upfront and honest about it is the best course of action, specially if they really love her and don't expect anything in return nor act like they are owed something for their kindness.
_"nor act like they are owed something for their kindness"_
Not even basic respect? Because she more reluctant to give it to him than spreading her butthole.
He didn't do it well at all. Called the girl "cute" on their SECOND meeting even though they obviously look like they've been through hell. No wonder she thought he's just doing this to get some easy/vulnerable girl. If you try to help someone IRL, you gotta make sure you make your intentions clear, like you're not interested in romance or love. You just want to help them. The POV character is obviously interested in pursuing a romance with the girl. It gives off huge creep vibes. You know for a fact PoV character or some folks that read this would not help a guy in the same situation.
No? I didn't get that impression from the mc at all calling her cute may have been a way to try and make her feel better about herself maybe a bad way but really Don't feel like mc is a bad person
Good Valid
@@catsmoking6485they’re both teenagers and teenagers aren’t the brightest.
Some people really can’t tell the difference between empathy and pity
Why not try ampathy and bury them
What's the diference
First thing that comes to mind is domestic abuse from a relative.
Based on some extras, you're pretty spot on.
From the thumbnail the first thing that I think is that she accidentally stepped on a Lego
Second thing with that attitude of hers is that she deserves it.
@@nickkorkodylas5005you're definitely really wrong for saying this just because she's abused still doesn't mean that she deserves it for talking like that please stay away from women you sound like someone who abused people
@@nickkorkodylas5005 I'm sorry, no one deserves to be abused, not to mention that that distrustful attitude is probably BECAUSE she was abused.
The sheer willpower and patience of the MC is that of a monk and is only matched by that girl's cold pessimism of freaking steel fortress.
I saw thing in mangadex before and it really has an interesting concept that many ppl encounter on a daily basis it is still ongoing I wonder how it is going to turn up honestly.
*Average School when they see this shit:* _"Hmmm, how sad for this ain't our problem at all"_
Also the same response from some comments here who actually feel the classmate is in the wrong for trying to teach out and help her. For some strange reason, some folks feel it is okay to be indifferent to the suffering of others cause it's "not your business"
@@orboakin8074 because it's not their business. In this world, you either sink or swim on your own, relying on others to drag you out only makes you dependent on them like crutches. Every one of us is given exactly one life, one time in this world. Why waste it on someone inconsequential, especially when they didn't ask, didn't need and didn't plead?
@@jpjfrey5673 sera hmmmm não ajudar alguém por ela não quere não parece uma coisa muito moral de se fazer
@@martimsousa2601 morals? Laughable. Morals don't keep you alive and prospering
@@jpjfrey5673 what are you a crimanal or bussiman
As an Answer for your pinned comment Josey:
YES YOU SHOULD!
Had a Girl like that in Class in middleschool, she always was so distant, but always looked in my and my peers way,
i noticed,
started to include her in our group during lunchbreak,
she openly said that she wasn't feeling right,
she openly said in someones face if someone is anoying,
she had long hair, she wore always dark and long sleeved Pullovers and dark Jeans or Skirts with tights and such (Goth-Style),
we were laughing, she sighed,
we were discussing things, she sighed,
we were arguing, she sighed,
we sang stupid songs, she sighed,
we told bad jokes to each other and she sighed,
but she was part of our group, one day she came to us on her own and tagged along,
one day she even started conversations first,
but she was always like the girl in this video,
the last time i saw her, we walked home together, she lived a village next to mine and was always driven home by her parents but not this time,
it was the last week before winter break,
we went home together and she grabbed me by the Arm and asked if i could come to her home this once,
i tagged along,
at her place we went to her room, she said ''no ones home, like always'', we entered the room and sat down at a little japanese Style Table at the window,
the whole room was dark, covered in Gaming / Anime/ Manga/ Metal-Music stuff,
she switched on a little light on her desk and came to me, hugging me really tight, pressing her face against my chest and she was crying her eyes out,
she was crying intensely, i just held her in my arms,
time past and i didn't notice how long i was cradeling her but then, without saying something she pulled up her sleeves:
Cuts, alot of them,
old scars and fresh cuts that were bandaged,
''Please don't tell anyone'' she said to me with tears running down her cheeks and i made a promise,
after that she tagged along with our group, closely near me for the rest of the week, even smiling from time to time,
the day before winter break she said to me ''thank you'' with a smile, she hugged me for a minute or so and was picked up by her mom,
never saw her again, she never came back to school in the new year, never knew what happened to her and the teachers, which i even confronted directly, didn't talk
but she smiled...that heartful smile, i will never forget it
thank you for sharing that story with us
Sounds like something was going on at home, I hope she’s okay but since you never saw her again and the teachers didn’t say anything (very sketchy) I’m guessing that’s not likely unfortunately
r/thathappened
This sounds like a sad manga. But if it's real hope that girl is okay
I like this. Feels like a deconstruction of the easy wish fulfillment comics you see too much of...like...on this channel? Not to knock it, god knows we all need to dream sometimes, but it is fascinating.
Id love to see more of this comic, but in some macabre way, Im hoping she still keeps turning this guy away.
Hopefully, like most other deconstruction stories, this remains a singular thing and doesn't ruin the existing trend of more hopeful and optimistic and uplifting stories.
@@orboakin8074 You just want to live a life where you treated nothing but shit...
I guess you really do prefer living in the toxic shithole then anywhere else...
pathetic
It is, but only to a certain point. This is clearly written as a degradation kink thing, but one grounded somewhat in reality. Because people like this DO exist, but they wouldn’t give you the time of day to even talk to you. They would much rather ignore you completely, and you wouldn’t have the will to continue pursing them.
@@spoony8485 I wouldn't say "clearly". Feels...iffy. Could go a few ways. Wish we can see more.
It's unfortunately true that people use kindness to abuse others so the girl's right to be hesitant. Good comment.
Y'all! Just wanted to let you know, this comic is under development. The video seemed to be pretty much up to date on the comic, and new chapters/pages are still being released! We don't know how the comic will turn out, so don't be so down!
It is an interesting discussion, and it's a difficult dilemma. I do love seeing stories of people getting out of and away from the environments that hold them down.But in reality, it's difficult. Some people it's easy to help. Some it's nigh impossible. Sometimes trying costs you more than you realize. But among the relations I've had, that remind me even slightly of this, I believe and hope my existence had a positive impact, even if those relations don't really exist anymore.
Should you help someone that doesn't ask for help? I guess that depends on _you._ Assuming they genuinely seem like they need help from an outside force, then there might be no harm in trying. But as with all relations, it's impossible to just give and give. I know some incredibly strong people, who actually grew up and helped themselves. Most likely, most of the people dealing with hardships will not share them with us until later, when it's all over. I'm not sure there's really a point to my comment. Just sharing experiences I guess. I believe everyone deserves the offer of a helping hand. And if I could improve someone's life, I like to believe I would do whatever it takes. I want to see people be happy. Maybe it's selfish, maybe not. Kant is silly stuff anyway, you could easily argue nothing is "a priori". I think it's human nature to want to help other humans.
I haven't been around in a while. I'm glad the channel is still here and you're still trucking on, Josey! Hope all is well. Life is a ride. Take care, whoever reads this :D
I hope to do the same. I can’t know what someone else is going through or what they’re going to do once I help them, but I’d rather take a very small chance I could change something by acting than a 100% chance I change nothing by walking away.
As someone who has reunited with and is supporting someone who has lived a rough life, it is very tough when the person you wish to help is having a very bad episode. They will express a desire to die, it is painful, and it’s not something that someone should rush in to try to help hold that burden without fully understanding the consequences. They will never truly heal, but those times where you see progress are some of the happiest moments someone can ever experience.
This is my birthday today. My mother has been drinking for 5 days. Nobody calls me if I don't call them or if they will be reminded that I exist through social network site. I have met a lot of good people outside my family. Some have shown me pity and tried to help me (which usually hurt more often than helped), others either listened or shared their own problems (that helped much more) and helped the way it should make me feel better from their own experience. I'm 21 and going to university this year. I'll build my social circle, try to find people with similar hobbies and/or worldview and through that I'll be fine. Do not try to help people in such states in a way that would appeal to them as condescending. Treat them as an equal and pretend to do not notice things that can be ignored (like if someone doesn't have money from their parents to buy snacks) or avoid situations that'll remind them of their difference in the first place. If people aren't willing to share what exactly happening with them - don't push it, that "I know you'd like to talk about it" is media bs trope. Do not enforce your will on their decision making (I know what is better for you - no, you can't be certain and neither can they themselves). I should've remembered more about it, but I don't. I'm sorry. If someone has to add something - feel free. If you feel I have made a mistake somewhere - write and explain
I'm over three days late but I wish you a happy birthday, man. You're a strong fella and I hope you have a great time in university.
I'm turning 18 myself this year and I'm heading into university too. Take care, champ. God Bless.
2022 was a terrible year and I even tried to end it all (though, it didn't work, so I'm here now hehehe) but something I realized afterwards is...
There's so much more to see, to explore...who knows I might even end up making some really good friends? As long as the sun sets, there's bound to be another sunrise. You can always turn your life around.. I'm doing that for myself as we speak...
Nevertheless, we learn and we try to grow from our pain....You're not alone bro and you've got this!!!
This feels more like a reflection of our modern times...
Where we are all going in the direction of people mentally/physically decaying, yet theres still many trying to give them a future and hope.. I know theres going to be some whos going be like "its okay to be in the suffering" at this point its more like rotting. Accepting this crupption, and rejecting others kindness might nothing but go in the direction of distroction of mankind..
Just as that one folk who prefer to "not existing trend of more hopeful and optimistic and uplifting stories," they will only be dissapointed the never changing law of One righteousness suppresses all evils.
I had a stroke reading this
And this is why if you're someone who is somewhat stable, you probably shouldn't try to deal with damaged people. Abuse Victims have had their brain chemistry altered by their experiences to only expect and accept negative treatment. You can't help someone who doesn't want to help themselves, even if they're not at fault, it doesn't change the fact that its pretty much impossible to force someone to accept honesty and kindness. Some people, will just suffer, fault or not.
Well said
There's a Spanish saying that translates to, "Need has a dog's face." In other words, people who're in the depths of despair aren't easy to help. She's bitter and disrespectful, but that's because she feels she's in a hopeless situation. She feels helpless against the constant abuse her mother inflicts on her. So she chooses to assert what little control she has by mistreating the MC. Plus she may feel misanthropic and distrustful in general considering no one has helped her until now.
Y'all want a not-so-fun fact?
Her mom beats her up and sells pics of her beat-up body to creeps
Some people in r/manga got curious with the fanboxes, and lets say curiosity killed the cat, and it was not satisfied with what it saw
_>and sells pics of her beat-up body to creeps_
Since she treats him like a creep then he should buy some and rub them on her face.
Aaand reading this immediately made me feel queasy-
The big problem that everyone is missing in their mind set is that whatever happens to u in anybody's life time, the longer u hold onto your trauma, the more harder u fall on your head into rock bottom until u truly forget about having compassions and understandings, and that's also why most people can't forgive themselves from all the ugliest times in anybodys life, sure its true that most people tend to shed crocodile tears for the absolute worst reasons, at the same time, there will be limits on wanting a shoulder to cry on, its what were born to do no matter how bitter of a human being anybody could be, we're all victims at on a lot of things that we didn't even ask for in life, but with having real understandings and too actually help one another as another human being, weather u had a perfect life or not, in order to truly understand someone's true pain no matter how bad their life situations looks, not only u could try to walk a mile on someone else's shoe as best as u can, but u could also be honest with them on your ugly times, weather its something big or small, and if that doesn't work either, well at least u truly tried with all your might to be emotionally prepared on what u said to some people, let them come to you in the end, because like I said, everything and everyone will reach their limits on being mean, they will remember the things on what your saying, its also because as their not use to the nice things u tried to do, but they will think about it later on as their brains are starting to reset from all the negative things they had too endure, so basically, they will thank u later on in their own time, without anything in return, to me, it's nice to do nice things for someone, and its already rewarding to me as it should be, because it's a good beneficial deeds to learn about human emotions, never forget that 🤟🏼👍🏼
The worst part about this is that you can't blame the girl here, she looks like she is going trough a really hard shit, the paranoia in that kind of situation is normal.
Still, "You don't need to turn yourself on fire for make others feel warm"
(Sorry for my bad english)
From what I heard... In the artist's fanbox is her story, about her getting abused by her mother, by selling n##es of her online to random men. I think people are too hateful of her. I'm more annoyed at the MC not because of himself but how he is a character comes from a place of savior fantasy that these kinds of mangas have. Though, I think she is also pretty ungrateful at times, but it is kind of understandable given her circumstances why she isn't so trusting of others.
Throughout the extra manga pages, you can see how the text bubbles slowly turns white, showing how with each generous act, she become more optimistic.
Depressing as this is this is some folks reality. They’ve been through the ringer with the worst kinds of individuals so any semblance of kindness you do for them often doesn’t make a difference. They’re focusing on the hurt dealt to them rather than what the individual(s) attempted to do overall so they categorize everyone as out to get them in some way.
You can only do so much and if they’re not willing to see what you were doing then leave them be and move on. You can’t help everyone nor is it your responsibility to. It’s just how life is.
The way you help people like this, is helping them without being obvious
A Licensed Mental Health Counselor will tell you that this is the only approach to help someone in a desperate situation who feels trapped and helpless. All you can do is keep trying to get through to them. It's very clear that this girl is being abused, and likely thinks that if someone takes her virginity her abuser (likely a parent) will just kick her out.
well if kindness doesn't work, he could always move on to plan 2: casual annihilation of her enemies and anyone who tries to get close to her
To ignore the guy to treath you this nice from the first day of school it mean you only don't want to admit it from shame or insecurity.
For people that think the comic is only sad there are more chapters and it takes a more wholesome turn, idk if more chapters are going to be made but its not a completely sad and hopeless manga
"I mean your not wrong, but toy didnt have to say it," is all i could think😂
not helping someone is equal to leaving a dying person in the road people walk one by but some would do anything to not feel guilty no matter the pain.
she said that she didn't want help, so maybe she had left alone.
This lesson to learn from encounters like these is that you should always strive to have common human decency and treat others the way you would want them to treat you, with kindness for the sake of kindness, not because it is expected of you or because you want something out of the exchange. Sometimes people just want to suffer, but it's not kindness to let them, kindness would be helping someone because it's what you would want someone else to do for you if the roles were reversed. At least, that's what I _think_ kindness is.
1:50 “your so kind”
The protagonist decides to leave her alone and she asked why.
I think what the *creator* was going for was her pretending to hate it but actually appreciates it.
Of course, that’s only what the creator was going for, you’re entitled to think of this however you want.
The next chapters Continuation actually gets a lot more upbeat and positive
You know you like helping people but when you come across this Manga it hits hard
🎵Don't save her, she doesn't wanna be saved🎵
As harsh as it sounds, the POV guy should probably just leave her be. You can’t help someone who won’t let you help and you don’t have to ruin your own mental well being by being bombarded with constant vitriol
Agreed
Persistent is key for breaking her shell! And a bit of mental chess. I'd do it just to save her
this was a tough, but enlightening comic
Sometime in situations like these when the person is refusing help, violence of action is the best strategy. Being "patient" and passive could let the situation spiral out of control and get a lot worse. They may end up hating you for a time, but at least you got them out of harms way by being proactive and taking the initiative. All you can do is hope they'll eventually realize what you did was in their best interest someday.
"Your dick is not a magical healing wand of emotions!" ~ Hanako Ikezawa, probably.
Thanks for uploading this, I enjoyed seeing it to the end from reading the rest on the writers page
People seem to ignore one simple thing: even if it's for self satisfaction of helping someone else, so what? As long as you don't demand something (not agreed upon before) in return later, don't humiliate the other person and don't expose them, the results should be what matters.
Bottom line is: an ideal transaction/exchange would be a win-win situation. If you get something you need, the other person gets personal satisfaction from the act of helping itself, and neither of you suffer losses, then it shouldn't be an issue.
-People- Narcissistic virtue signaling pinkos keep pretending to forget that ALL human relationships are "transactional" to some extent and ironically they do that to put themselves on a pedestal of "righteous selflessness".
Agreed.
Please continue this. Your voice brings so much life to the character
In the end they ran away together but the female mc mom found them and almost kill them then they woke up in the hospital and survived then they got separated but they meet up after 5 years and started to date.
Well I was not expecting the 180 of her saying to do it right then and there. They are not even a inch of friendship and she fired a 50 cal like that.
She was asking him to kill her my guy
@@toxin2396 is that your own way of translating the censored word or did you find some other source stating that? Doesn't make sense why you would censor the word kill. Unless japan doesn't allow that sort of content.
@@chaosdrill5175 I was curious too and tried reading the original manga, there is also one censored word (presumably a kanji), but follow-up words after that censored kanji strongly suggests that the word used is "kill"
Edit: tried searching a bit, and apparently "rape" kanji can replace the "kill" kanji and is still grammatically correct, so back to the same dilemma...
@LibraCmd Huh, that's interesting. So with what I can understand is that both me and Toxin could be wrong or correct?
you cant change/safe someone who doesnt want help. some people "like" being stuck at the bottom of a well. you can only help people to change if they trully want it themselfs
She's definitely gonna unalive herself
and_nothing_of_value_was_lost.mp4
bro really took "i want to be a kinder and gentler person..." to heart
-read the real thing
-"huh... kinda weird"
-open the comment section
-gets redirected
-"wait what is this i havent see this chapter before"
- *Regrets*
3:50 I beg to differ. it may not have anything to do with that person, but fully well he can do something about it. from being nice to you, to murdering the abuser, there's a whole host of choices they can choose to help.
Awh hell nah bro I just checked the source and dang it just kept getting worse
Could you give us a hint?
@@Babiv-df4si I also want to know how it ended
How bad we talking?
It's ongoing, but the female ends up going to the MC's house, after being invited by him. Still waiting for further publication.
She also said she would dump him as soon as she found someone better, so....
@@LordBairoth well,she is not tsundere. She is plainly jerk. She is rotten both inside and outside...
The manga has a happy ending, it’s amazing, w manga, it’s beautiful
Kind people actually exists and people like her exists and its hard to take care of them
Kindness is selfishness, but just because the reason is selfish doesn't mean the outcome will be bad, keep helping people and cut ties with those who hurt others, please be kind but not defenseless
is been 1 month since this vid was uploaded and the manga have made huge progress that could make you attract to the manga 100% recommend reading
I can relate to this character by 100%
@woah6051 My whole body is a scar regardless it's healed except for the right side of my right knee
The whole story was actually beautiful 😍🥲
I get the feeling she was asking to be ended instead of what one gets with those beeps. Good story though
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink.
I just completed the whole series I recommend it it was beautiful 🥲
Just so everybody doesn’t have to worry, she ends in a much better place together with the mc
ooh this looks good
oh wait ive read this lmao, still excited to see a dub
"You don't want my help, that's fine. You'll talk to me at some point, I'm patient. Talk to me when your ready." How I would have responded to her.
Maybe i'm down bad, but every time I hear the beat I see the F word
while the pessimistic view is relatable, if she truly wanted it to end, she would do it herself. she cares just enough to continue life of her accord.
1:41 I bet you're the kind of person to write their girlfriend a love song for their birthday.
I've never felt so called out in such a specific way before because I did do that for my first ever girlfriend. She broke up with me not long after that saying that it was embarrassing, despite the fact that I sang it to her when we were alone and I should probably stop talking about this uncomfortable memory in the comment section of a random video I found.
The voice acting is great by the way🥲
Nah she didnt deserve you
I’d do it just to fulfil my saviour complex, just be upfront about it. Like yeah, I do it cause it makes me feel good and gives my days meaning, what are you gonna do about it? Not like I’m gonna stop. Yeah it’s selfish, but I’m already getting what I want in return so it’s a win-win situation.
*You really don't want to know what happened to her.*
She's being abused by her mother, who also sells her n*des of her beaten body to strangers. Really depressing.
"You just wanna look good by taking pity on m-"
*"Yes."*
the end
I'm gonna be a hero until the end I don't care if u hate me or not
People be hatin on her until the learn what is in the artist's fanbox.
I am scared what might be there
What is in there?
"You know, Chelsea? I think you should jump."
Damn ☠️
Certified Jex Tomfoolery
Some people are only accepting help if you’re solving the roots of their problems and will thrash at any lesser assistance you provide them, in these cases don’t waste your time. I only didn’t get why the protagonist didn’t straight up asked who were hurting her and went off to do something about it since they were so willing to help
Oh boy. This one's actually fucked. For those who don't know, I'm going to briefly make this manga series hurt so much worse. The author has a fanbox (think patreon-exclusive pixiv) with... nsfw "art"work of this character, but it adds more context. I won't post the link here, for obvious reasons, but it's so much worse than it seems. Spoilers below:
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From what I've read online (ain't paying for the fanbox cause it's fucked up), the Mom is abusing the child and making torture/gore p*rn with the daughter.
yikes
Ayo wtf that shit just went from 10 to 10000 rq
That explains her behaibiour perfectly tbh, now i feel more engaged to the story
Looked it up, and yeah it's pretty much true. Although from what I can understand she doesn't do torture/gore pr0n, the mother beats up the girl if she doesn't comply. She's (mother) doing it for the money, that she apparently blows on pachinko. So yeah, that's beyond fucked.
"And what if I told you that you were right about everything? That it was all selfish, that I was just into you, and felt bad about your situation, and wanted to try to do what little I could to help- even if all it was to an attempt to distract you from what's hurting you, even if I couldn't fix it? What's wrong with that? What's wrong with caring about someone, about noticing something wrong and trying to alleviate suffering just a little? What's wrong with hoping something beautiful can spring from broken roots? I'm not perfect. I'm not a messiah. I'm probably a failed hypocrite about a million things in just the way I treat you over others. But, that's the start, isn't it? Trying to make things better in some way. That's all I'm trying to do. And I'm sure you'll admit, you feel the same. No one likes pain and misery. Being alone and scared of everything else around them. You want things to be better, too. So... let's try it together."
Currently reading it, looks like shes starting to open up to the MC which is a good thing especially when the bubble text is turning white instead of the dark and shallowy bubble text.
*SPOILERS AHEAD, this is my comment about the chapter I'm currently reading.*
Edit 1: SHE SMILED LET'S GOOOOO!!
Edit 2: "Chapter 26" ...
Edit 3: "Chapter 27: Page 1" I swear, who tf is beating her up...
Edit 4: "Chapter 27: Page 2" I feel so bad for her ong, she's crying but the bubble text is turning white...
Edit 5: "Chapter 27: Page 3" Seems like she finally admitted that she wanted to be with the MC, now I kind of understand on why she doesn't want her parents to get arrested, I'm pretty sure if they did get arrested then she'll probably get taken into a hospital or a healthcare center (or somewhere) which means she'll get separated with the MC and it looks like she doesn't want that to happen. I hate her parents.
Edit 6: "Chapter 28" It's honestly cute on how the MC brought her lunch, that's definitely a `husband material` right there.
Edit 7: "Chapter 29: Page 1" Now sure on what I would comment about the MC going home with her, it's normal. But it seems like she's going home alone, although she said that the next day they'll meet up again.
Edit 8: "Chapter 29: Page 2" MC: “I get the feeling that if I let her go home right now, ill regret it for the rest of my life.” MC have to trust his guts, that's for sure.
Edit 9: "Chapter 29: Page 3" MC recommended that they should run away together. But not sure if the girl's gonna accept it, though I have a feeling that she would.
Edit 10: "Chapter 29: Page 4" SHE ACCEPTED!! LETS GOO!!!!
Edit 11: "Chapter 30" MC: “this time I'll definitely protect you, so you can rest easy.” MC is low-key a guardian angel for her, and HER SMILE!! IT'S SO CUTE!!!
Edit 12: "Chapter 31" That says it, the fact that her parents never allowed her to go on family trips nor school field trips indicates that they're extremely strict.
So did he fix her?
@@ouchman6966 yeah but the recent chapters is fucked up. Technically both the MC and the girl ran away so that they could probably live a peaceful life I'm assuming, MC confessed his love towards the girl but then the mom came and she was holding a knife. Not entirely sure what happened next but the scene cuts into the perspective of the MC being in a hospital bed (i think).
@@Cai7S that's progression, there'll probably be a guilt trip arc where she feels responsible for guy getting stabbed but the girl just has to figure out where her priorities are now and not fear confrontation. Fingers crossed for this manga lol.
@@ouchman6966 I'm honestly hoping that the girl is safe, I'm sure that's what the MC would say too. Her mother is a complete psychopath, holding a knife and almost stabbing her daughter just because she ran away with the MC is fucked up.
When you didn’t bump up your Speech skill, and now your so far down the story that every dialogue option leads to something *really bad*
Hey, just want to point out a few things that bugged me. This voiceover misses the last 2 pages of the comic that are listed with the others on the sources, they change the way the story should be seen significantly so I recommend checking them out.
Also the story is called "I'm Worried About My Classmate Who's Covered in Bruises" not "I Hate your Pity" (it's in the end card but I just thought it was an odd detail.)
Thanks. I think if you take someone's original work, you shouldn't try to pass it off as your own or try to change their work. At the very least you should credit them properly. This video is theft.
Personally don't mind the title. Not only can the title of a video be changed really easily, but also it's not entirely uncommon for authors of manga to change their works' titles later on.
Did you watch to the end? She credits the author and what the comic is called
@@ryanfroude9436 Ah I missed that. My bad.
@@lolmanor Oh not you bro you're chill. I was directing this to the peeps above your comment
The thing with the most of what she says is that it is partially true in a meta perspective, but it's hardly a good "mindset" for any person.
As for pity... i hate it too, for the sole reason that by its nature you are either above or below in that cursed relationship, there are no equals in that, you are either the one bellow, being pitied or the one above pitiying another. I don't think that the person you trully and genuinly care about should be bellow or above you, so pitying them is against my ideals. As for pitying others, well why would pity ones i don't care about? It's not like i would do something for them, since as we already established that i don't care about them. Not to mention other averse effects of pity that are common to other dependant relationships. It's not to say that i don't have sympathy for those in worse situation to me, it's simply that i don't think that pitying them is the right thing to do. Help? Sure thing, i will help proportionately to how much i care about someone. As for pity? Pity won't help anyone.
a wise man once said: dont save her, she dont want to be saved
Is it from the monogatari series
@user-vs3gc4cn3t its from a song
5he devil ?
@@martimsousa2601 nah by j.cole - no role models
a very wise man indeed.
The worst part is, people who live in abusive conditions, usually thinks of them as normal.
The way it end makes me want to demand more chapters
There are more chapters, look at the description
“Alright. Have a slightly better day then.”
*Fuck this shit im out.*
Can’t fix whatever happened.
Can’t try.
Why bother?
There was a borderline homeless druggie girl I worked with at my very first job. She was in as bad of a state as you can imagine. She told me about terrible things that happened, happen, and will continue to happen to her. I wasn't the one who offered to help, I simply witnessed it. Part of that was my manager at the time offering her the job in the first place. Nevertheless she wouldn't accept any other advice or forms of help. Pride, Stockholm, addiction, fear, there were many reasons. But ultimately there was nothing my manager could do for her. And since she didn't improve, she was eventually fired by another manager. There's usually no harm in trying, but life isnt some fairytale with only happy endings either. I still think about it from time to time.
Why was this woman not in a hospital?
With what insurance? With what money? Serious life problems are not something a few days in a hospital can fix. If only it were that easy...
@@Vergil9O do you know why she didn’t already have such?
All this video tells me is why i never should help people and just let them sort out their own problems.
If anyone is reading this don't bully this person, they aren't ready to help people, and that is fine to be not willing to help others, as long as they don't hurt others they are not evil just tired, i hope you all the best and please stay kind but not defenseless
I wonder whats the end of this Comic Dub or is that just it?
nah, Idk why Josey called it a one shot, it's actually a series of arts and 2 new arts just dropped recently
@@havoc2285 can u give me the source?
@@leutcher9381 I'm worried about my classmate that's covered in bruises
@@havoc2285 thx
@@leutcher9381link is in the video description
Why do you want us to cry more, I've already cried reading this comic, now you add in voice acting.
FINALLY SOME GOOD STUFF
This kind of situation is like the pillar. (I made this up)
If you exhert yourself to push the pillar up, you waste your energy. If you run out, it crushes you. But if you do nothing, the situation will not change. The inevitable can only be delayed by those of great perserverance.
Atlas could not rest. Sisyphus could not rest, for their punishments were eternal. Why then, must you, a mortal with such little time to live, give up, even if the chance of helping someone is slim, and they practically beg you to stop trying. If we all just gave up, then no abuse case would ever be resolved.
*_"You never know what is in the heart of a stranger. They can lie to you, about their intentions for centuries as long as they get what they want in the end."_*
But if you keep your shield up infront of your face, you can see neither friend nor foe, no? How can you really be sure....
Is it naiivety, if there's a chance you may gain a single friend as opposed to being alone?
Edit: I read the post of someone below me. They're actually making alot of sense as to why this approach doesn't always work. Basically if she says no, forcing your kindness onto her will just make you the exact kind of person she thinks you are. If she says it's none of your business, then rest your case. You let go, but the pillar hovers over you, as you look up to see the hand of the person who's burden you've taken for yourself.
Just saying something... I hate people when they pity me. It is not their business to look down on me and feel sorry for me when they have not gone through anything I did and pretend to understand it.
I hate when they say 'I feel you bro' Even though they do not have even a slightest chance of knowing how I feel with the constant suffering that my illness hinders me with.
I am fine with them supporting me... But pity is something I despise.
Okay
try to give them to benefit of the doubt and look past their words and more towards their intentions, they mean well, most the time they just dont know how to put it into words, they dont mean to "pity" you and look down on you, or try to say they relate to your pain and know exactly what its like, they just want you to know that they're there and they understand WHY youre struggling, that doesn't mean they know what youre struggling feels like, and i highly doubt thats what they're trying to get across when they say "i understand" or "i feel you bro"
communication is hard, so try to assume youre friends are on your side when they say stuff like that
nah, you just have to fake smile trust me it's work everytime unless the whole society just look at you having bad day and become upset. I am not sure but some people become so upset and annoying when they try talk to you during bad time, honestly I hate this type of people goes crazy around people during they have serious problem while making offensive joke
Sometimes it’s not pity but rather they want to give what they can never receive in the later end; a feeling that somebody cares and knows them, the familiarity that comes from unexpected places, i believe.
"Look Down" and "Feel Sorry" *Are Two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT Things*
One Is Having Bad Intention, Feeling Themselves "Superior" ... Therefore, Won't Really Do Anything For You
And The Other One Is Coming From Empathy, Have A Genuine Good Reason... And Will Try To Help You, Within Their Limitations
One Give You Absolutely NOTHING,
And One Want To Help You With Something...
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Now IF You Really "Having A Bad Fate"
You Won't Disregard Other People's Kindness Like That...
People Who Already KNOW SUFFERING... Can Differentiate Between Fake People And Genuinely Good One
If You Can't See Any Difference,
*Then Simply STAY AWAY From People... So You Won't Get Bothered By Them*
Easy, Right?
That's What I Did Back Then, "Having Absolutely No One But Myself" ,, And It Working Out Just Fine... I Can Still Buy Expensive Stuffs With My Own Money (don't ask where I get it, At Least I'm Not Robbing or Scamming People, I Have Dignity)
Helping people brings me comfort, yes, ie I enjoy doing this to see you bloom into the riotous woman you can be, but its up to you. If all you want is intercorourse, you know where to find me
. . . . . . Well that was depressing as s#$%.
Videos like this make me really think if im really a good person or if im just being nice
Hi really feel sorry for this girl
Yeah. At least her classmate is doing some much needed reaching out to her and though she rejects and insults him, he is trying and that matters far more than most folks understand. He could be like the other students and just be indifferent but he doesn't.
@@orboakin8074 that is true
Doesn't matter how worried you get, you will never be able to help this kind of people. The mc here's lucky she's just depressed and didn't start manipulating him.