AR-61 Tenderizer Stress Test & BREAKDOWN in Helldivers 2
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As always my favorite comment will be featured at the end of the next video! Have a good one everybody!
Hey Eravin what's your take on the lib-pen? it could have been great unfortunately it damage is anemic, which doesn't make sense to me it should do the same damage as the normal liberator.
It brings a tear to my eye to see you getting to the point where you are getting sponsors! Grats! But... you need to get a Raid: Shadow Legends sponsorship at least once, for the memes.
The Snail has blessed you with the the gift of money. As a former War Thunder player, the phrase "its fun, till it is no longer fun" is accurate.
No really, it's a fun game, until it isn't.
>unparalleled combination of realism and approachability
GHPC: Are you sure about that?
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@@Microwavingmetal I think they need to stop trying to balance automatics around the basic liberator and give us some real Assault Rifles to play with. Tenderizer was a good step towards that, but we need a full disparage from trying to make the Liberator competitive to every new AR
Look at you getting a Warthunder ad. Great progress dude.
Tyty for the support!
I normally skip through ads but I sat through this one out of respect for all the value you bring to the helldivers community.
I've heard they're good money
Good work, Eravin.
WarThunder is just spamming ads everywhere recently
This gun really is the Halo Battle Rifle. Incredibly high damage, low recoil, headshot machine but low ammo.
It does have alot of that same feel for sure
It even LOOKS like the Battle Rifle.
But I'm still not a fan. Losing those magazines really hurts considering how often you're reloading.
@@Spectacular_Insanity Yeah, it's sort of tragic. The only AR that feels great to use, but you basically need a supply pack to make it sustainable.
To be fair it has more ammo than a battle rifle from my experience. That said I love it. It is one of a few guns I like using in burst mode. It handles great.
Tried it last that and it was good but drop it during the mission because of its low ammo.
"What the hell do you mean they already broke it again?!" even Brasch is surprised 😂
I was shocked they put the long awaited Spear fix in while bugging out it's most important use
@@EravinVT Are they just that incompetent? How does this happen when they want "quality over quantity"?
@@gothicpandowell..... the engine game is built on was discontinued like 8 or more years ago. So mabye it's just spaghetti code?
@@EravinVTSpegetti code mabye?
I know right? It works flawlessly now, but the targeting computer no longer recognizes bot factories as valid targets.
Put the tendy on semi and you have probably the best chaff killer primary (if you can hit your shots and keep her fed)
the bullet value is great I just wish I had more :(
"If you can hit your shots and keep her fed", that's one of the absolute worst reasons to use an AR.
It's not a HMG, period.
@@GooiYingChyiYou literally provided nothing with that statement. Just hit your shots and ration your ammo.
Aka just use the DCS lol
@@davidtrueblood1863 on anything below 6 this is easy however with the buff on devastors in bots this makes it super hard on anything above 6
After the update, the Tenderizer became my favorite assault rifle. The way the weapon is used clicks with me and how I play. Due to its low recoil, it's a great primary choice for people who want to run armors that don't have recoil reduction such as the Servo-assisted, Medic, and Peak Physic. Just remember to bring a support weapon that can take heavy targets such as hulks (from the front), tanks, gunship, and factory striders.
I mean u could just bring the Sickle but I guess ur right its the "best" AR
That Sickle Wind up just is not for me
@@EravinVTIt’s also a 4 shot for Devastator heads. Amazing on cold planets against Bugs, like a mini-stalwart
@@skeley6776 As someone who switched from the Sickle to the Tenderizer. The Sickle is better due to not having to reload.
Damn now I want to get back into warthunder. Guess it's time to leak some documents
Gajin: can you stop leaking classified military documents *FOR FIVE MINUTES?!?!*
haha
Lol the FBI would like to know where you are.
I've played more than enough War Thunder to know I do not want to play more War Thunder lmao
I've been running this a bunch against bots lately (difficulties 6-8) and it's been really solid. Use the scope as much as possible to hit heads, the tiny green dot shows actual point of impact when bots get close. If you consistently get head kills the ammo issues disappear.
The ammo is only an issue in Terminids due to having overall worse breakpoints then Bots
@@EravinVTthe terminids also require less accuracy due to bigger size, and have more enemies like hive guards and brood commanders that can only be damaged with medium armor pen. I like to run the adjudicator for bugs, paired with the redeemer and sometimes a flame-thrower
“Crank that shit like it’s 2007” 😆
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I love the constant game of wack-a-mole the dev team has been playing with spear lock on. It locks on great! But it still locks scout striders and no longer locks fabs. At least it doesn’t lock shriekers anymore lol.
I really like the low recoil. I hope they bump the AR armor pen to differentiate them from SMGs
They just need better structure damage to outpace the SMGs, they were better than the Trendy before the buff.
Agreed.
Congratz on the sponsor! This was a great wepaon test. The enemy by enemy stats was Very complete and this gave me a lot of raw data to educate my choices, I appriciate that.
Glad it was useful and thank you!
Congrats on the Sponsorship ^^
Also great breakdown as always :D
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I love these stress test review videos. So much detailed info. No one else is covering breakpoints! I neeeeeeed one for every weapon post patch!
Oooo tendies
mmmm yes
Chikky Tendies: classic, delicious, usually affordable, good for dipping
Terminid Tendies: corrosive, odious, usually poisonous, good for lubricating Democracy Deliverance Components
Automaton Tendies: metallic, inedible, usually very sharp and/or explosive, good for shrapnel
Been using the Tenderizer since before the patch. Works great paired with the AMR to take care of light bots at all ranges. Amazing after the patch.
Nothing better than getting off work and coming to a new Eravin breakdown video. Love the content gamer. Keep it up, please
Thanks for watchin! No plans to slow down anytime soon
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impressive clicking speed soldier!
Ayy get that money big man ! Love your vids and the stat breakdown/ maths approach. Keep doin what you're doing
Thanks! Will do!
Excellent video again man, love the changes to this weapon and think it pairs really well with the amr or hmg with an ammo backpack
Good job on the sponsor lad great analysis work
Tyty!
Best Helldiver breakdown guy.
Nice, grats on the sponsor!
It's about damn time they issued us the correct Ammunition!
Also congratulations on getting a Peace Lightning sponsorship, I used to play it all the time back on Super Earth.
thank you! and yeah finally the tenderizer tenderizes
The tenderizer is by far one of the best buffed weapons helldivers has received since release
Thanks!
I finally tried the tenderizer today and ngl I actually had a blast using it. It was legitimately just fun to use all around. If they'd just bump the armor pen to medium it would be my go to fr
Yep, it's a very comfy weapon to shoot and feels great to fire. Wish they didn't knee cap the ammo though.
@@EravinVT I'd be ok with the low ammo if it had medium pen... but if it's staying light armor pen we need more ammo
Ive been enjoyingn the weapon a lot more, definitely going in the rght direction
Hey Eravin I have 2 question.
1) Will you do a deep dive on the new armor passive?
2) Has the look of the automaton medium units changed? I swear they are more like silver now.
Thanks as always, you are one of the best creators when it come to helldivers 2 :)
Yes they are a bit shinier then they were, and the new armor passive does not currently function unfortunately.
@EravinVT hey, it kinda functions! It makes handling 30% worse, that's technically a function
@@EravinVTI see the new armor function better on heavy sway weapons like jar 5, autocannon, eruptor, HMG etc. Probably more still it can help with. I feel like the ready up is slightly faster as is the circle reticle assumes center position faster could be my mind playing tricks. Idk about the melee boost. They should’ve made the throwing knives a secondary instead of grenade slot. I’m guessing the servo assist would increase its throw range. Still would be interesting to have your take on the new passive.
@@EravinVTas expected, another swedish engineering feat!
Great UA-cam growth man!!
Appreciated! Thanks for watchin
8:14 One thing I have discovered, because of its good accuracy, low recoil and high rate of fire, it's actually surprisingly easy to snipe a Hulk on the back from a long range if you get the chance.
Actually got two or three Hulks that way in a game last night. One was in a blizzard, and all I could see was the glowing heat vent in a snowstorm. Out came the Tenderizer and down went the Hulk. Another was chasing a teammate, but I had a decent line of sight on it, and down it went.
The third was just sitting there fat dumb and happy, and pop! it's gone too.
Honestly really impressed. That was the same drop I took and HMG and supply pack, and we ended up hot dropping on a dual gunship fabricator.
Congrats on the sponsor my dude
tyty
Empy is a mood.
congrats on getting a sponser, on the tenderizer with the high damage and low mag but great ergonomics i've been using it like how you'd use something like the diligence but switching to autofire when getting swarmed, which is surprisingly effective
Appreciated! Yeah I've liked the Tenderizer since before the buff honestly, Just got a good excuse to talk about it with the sizeable damage buff
It went from the degrade version of the liberator to the straight upgrade
Video request: Test out the newly buffed stratagems alike the orbital gatling.
I see lots of testing from other folks already. Honestly, still quite garbage at clearing hordes above the tiniest chaff. Can't break fabs or tanks, just a slightly lower cooldown, I wonder what the use case is, still? 😅
@@GooiYingChyi it can and will kill hulks and will tear up medium enemies easily. Plus it has a 60 second cooldown.
@@GooiYingChyi I was hoping that it was able to strip titan armor (6) as is somewhat mentioned in the changelogs, but I haven't played yet.
@GooiYingChyi It's exceptionally good against bugs. Throw it on a breach and it'll chew through a 30-40 kill streak easily, burning down all chaff and leaving any Commanders, Chargers and Biles banged up and easier to kill. Haven't used it as much on bots but it does good work on bot drops or used on a chokepoint to thin out an incoming wave. It again acts as an area denial weapon of used correctly and can cover a fallback or retreat very well. Combined with a 60 second cd and unlimited use it has plenty of utility. Why would you think it has to kill tanks and fabs to be useful? From your comments you clearly think 'This gun/strat/secondary weapon doesn't kill everything in the game therefore it's useless.' is a worthwhile contribution. It isn't.
You should do a review on all AR rifles after this update, also congrats on ad, you deserve it man
Alot of them didn't really receive significant changes so it's tough to hone in on what exactly changed
I ran this for a couple of hours earlier and I liked it a lot, but it just can't compete with my usual choice, the Punisher Plasma. Now that the bots have less scatter and hit their shots somewhat more often, the stagger is incredibly helpful, even if the TTK is a bit low.
Yeah, it can't compete with big guns in a primary role, but as a secondary with autocanon/any mg it works well
Yeah I do agree there Tenderizer and the other ARs and light pen weapons work as really good secondary weapons to the AC, AMR, and MGs
One of my favorite loadouts is still Liberator, MG-43, Supply Pack/EAT (defending on how I’m feeling and what to bring)
Mg-43 is the goat for everything up to difficulty 6 imo. Great damage, huge mag size, and medium pen make it so satisfying to use.
Put your Tenderizer on burst fire and your ammo will go a lot further without seeming to lose any killing power.
Best way to look at the Tenderizer is to look at how it differs from the Liberator. It has 2/3 as much ammo, does 50% more damage, has a tiny bit slower rate of fire and reload speed, and has 2/3 as much recoil per shot. The mag size feels restrictive but the total damage per mag is more or less the same (actually slightly higher).
In practice it's a Liberator with about 50% more DPS, the same damage per mag and total damage, and about two thirds as much recoil. It's a flat upgrade to an already pretty solid weapon.
Thank you for making these great videos!!
Could you please take a look at SG8P Punisher Plasma being recently bugged?
The issue seems to be that its projectile will often explode before it actually physically impacts with the target, so its non-explosive damage never happens.
This cuts down its damage in almost half , making it much weaker against single/big targets.
Helldivers wiki mentions this in a bit more detail.
Thanks!!
Great video, as usual. Throwing Knife stress test (for stealth) when?
I use it like a DMR on semi with a full auto option if things go south. I pretty much only use this or the dominator now and if you build around either they are both so good.
Congrats on getting a sponsor, Eravin! Hope the greedy snail pays well xD
thank you and thank you for watching :)
Loving the HMG now personally, been running it and supply packs. Was using it on Vernen Wells. Positioned myself just roght ro kill an entrie group of chaff, and literally stunlock a heavy devastator.
Hey Eravin, would you consider doing a stealth guide for bugs?
I play mostly bugs and I love doing objectives alone while the team does other stuff.
I've been having trouble with how to deal with bugs guarding objectives, while I can divert patrols away with the crossbow, the ones guarding objectives don't seem to move unless they actually engage something.
I love the tenderizer.
me too
Hey, Eravin great video. Do you plan to make a video about arbiter any time soon? I've been playing it after recent patch and I think it's quite decent now.
arbiter?
@@EravinVT Adjudicator! Sorry it's name is arbiter in Polish and I got confused.
i played all day yesterday using the tenderizer against bugs in lvl 7.
i even got seperated from my team in one run and got caught in an ems mortar w a charger n all i had atm was the tenderizer. end up killing the charger w matidor tactics and spraying its butt.
the gun feels like it should finally. hard hitting and accurate. the gun is great. its ammo economy is realistic and balanced considering how strong the gun feels. pair it w a good sidearm in case youre low on ammo and have yet to grab a supply drop or find some ammo crates. otherwise this rifle is perfectly in line w the balancing and vision of THIS game. love it. ammo is supposed to be somewhat scarce in hd2 for all weapons so conservation and supplydrops are mandatory to embrace the challenging game play. going to run it against bots today to see how it does against them.
viper commandos is a good warbond.
polar patriots is a good warbond.
Hey the MS Paint Intern did their best ok, it was their first day on the job.
>:(
Might be worth revisiting the crossbow Eravin, its even better then it already was. Now we have 3 guns that can brake bug holes and factories.
Shooting this prone feels like the MW2 ACR acog from my childhood
The new scopes are so much cleaner, Favorite part about the patch.
How would you feel about making a relaxed primary weapon tier list for the updated patch. Been craving a bit of experimentation with primaries recently. Been enjoying the Tenderizer but would like to know other good or just fun alternatives since that mag size hurts man. I really wish ARs were in a better spot.
You make the only divers content I bother to watch anymore. Great vid, keep it up! And grats on the sponsor :)
Thank you! I have considered tierlist content but.. there is just so much already out there haha
I love the Tenderizer. Much like the Adjudicator this weapon needs to be set to semi for single fire for best outcomes.
YOU THE MAN (Empy)
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A touch more stagger and 10-12 magazines would make the tenderizer just perfect.
Been liking the Tenderiser a lot since the patch. The boost to DPS is incredible alongside being super controllable. I mostly just don't like the mag size.
been playing with the tenderizer exclusively since the patch dropped
i usually play against bots
have to say that the sickle is still best in slot when playing with randoms since ammo is infinite and is decent in a pinch against devastators
tenderizer has been pretty good so-far
handles mobs of devastators well because of the accuracy
i only find myself running out of ammo when playing with other people
recommend people use it but i still think the sickle is the best overall for the role rifles play in the game
The adjudicator is my favorite assault rifle so when i saw all the love the tenderizer got in one patch it made me want to cry lfmao. The new buffs were nice but the adj prob needs ooooooone more light pass to be its best self.
Feels like every light pen primary should be like tenderizer. There is always a reason to bring it compare to adjudicator because it absolutely wreck light armour enemies.
True
My boi got sponsored, good for you man.
Warthunder is a decent game, not pay to win, the only issue is the grind which is massive for korean era wnd newer vehicles.
Yep! Warthunder is an all around respectable title so I was happy to be sponsored by them
The tenderizer might do good at ripping brood commander legs off.
I may have forgotten to bring a mouse on vacation but that won’t stop me from supporting super earth from the sidelines!
"crank that shit like it's 2007!" lol
tendy!!! i liked it before the update, but it got sooooo much better with the buff - i would have been happy with 70/75 dmg, but 95 is beautiful
I like the shake up. Do I take high damage but light armorpen, or do I go for mediumpen and take a damage loss?
Lol theres only 1 AR with medium pen and nobody uses it. Too many hoops to jump through to use an AR that can actually punch through armour! Bad recoil and poor ammo economy!
Right now, its pretty much the best AR option for me. Ammo may be low but nothing will beat out on how good its breakpoints are for enemies that you should be shooting with primaries. Dont mind having no med pen here.
I honestly thought it was actually lowkey great before the buff. Now? I feel like a GOD. Excellent buff and great weapon against the bots
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Also this gun feels really good, I like it a lot. High damage with low penetration give it an interesting niche.
Yeah it's a good step in the right direction for ARs imo.
00:46 C&C mentioned lets go
So I went and went around and tried the BR-14 against these numbers and I didn’t find much difference at all in terms of shots to kill (bots only) I’m curious if you saw the same. One of nice bonus of the tenderizer is the green laser will show you height over bore on close targets.
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Adjudicator has very similar shots to kill as the Tenderizer, The Tenderizer just has far less recoil making it a much more comfy shoot imo. Adjudicator can in theory out perform firing on dev legs, backpack, Brood Heads, Hive Guards, and Spewers due to it's penetration. But the recoil makes it difficult to utilize it's automatic fire's DPS making it a bit of a wash. TLDR ARs are still low on the totem pole in general.
Thought so. Thanks for the reply man.
I liked the patch but the rifles need a HUGE rework, rifle rounds should have more armor pen then shotguns, very unrealistic seeing as how a 9mm cuts thru a car door like butter and that's nothing compared to rifle calibers
It’s strange for sure
I wanted ti try it out last night..but it's loaght armor pen changed my mind
Thoughts on the Liberator Concussive? I love using it for both sides of the war and it feels good despite its poor stats
Not huge on it atm as I’d rather use the Jar-5 if I want heavy stagger on bots and Blitzer on bugs
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Yeah it's just soooo similar in design
It's good, I just don't like the limited ammo capacity, most of the Ar's got a buff so I just run the OG liberator to deal with smaller to some medium enemies with the AMR for heavies.
Combine the Tenderizer with the MG, SMG pistol, and a resupply pack and you have a decent kit vs bugs. Add in Impact grenades for Hive Guards and EATs, and you can deal with most problems very quickly.
It still suffers massively from the small mag size imo. Faced a very small amount of enemies and went through two or three mags which when you consider you only have 7 mags it sucks ass imo.
The ammo cut really sucks yeah, Wish it got to keep the ammo as the breakpoints from the new damage didn't change things so drastically it deserved to lose more then 3 mags worth
Chicken Tendy has become one of my favorite Bot Primaries. It is pretty much the only weapon I run with the AC now. The thing that really makes it shine is the lack of recoil. I can consistently double tap Dev heads at range with a single trigger pull. Though I think I will be using the belly more often now instead of repositioning, since that I know the breakpoint is quite low. Thanks for that!
It just feels so nice to shoot
I like taking it as a secondary with a powerful support weapon, mg or autocanon. Sadly, it can't compete as a main weapon for killing most of the stuff, when you are carrying AT stuff, but I'm definitely enjoying the tenderizer as an assault weapon for cqb inside bot outposts
To start with I think you come to the right conclusions, but I dispute some of the finer points when you are specifically facing off against the bugs.
the tenderizer is the only AR that can 1 tap scavengers, shriekers, spitters, and hoppers anywhere on the body. I think that point alone is a huge point of praise, literally taking half the shots to kill much of the time, the fact that you never have to second guess yourself for these enemies, that it always and forever will take 1 shot to kill, means you can move on to your next target immediately, where with other ARs you may want to shoot twice each target incase theres a wierd instance where you hit their back half. This point alone combined with Tenderizers handling and recoil control makes it a huge win.
For hunters my testing has consistently shown 2 shots to the body to be a kill, but if you get a limb hit it still takes 2 more hits to the body much of the time. For me I think Tenderizer is overkill on hunters, and so while the handling and recoil control shine, the ammo economy for hunters specifically does not.
For hiveguard you are correct, but you have the target location incorrect for the hiveguard, in the clip your bullets are ricocheting off the armor and destroying both his left and right claw, it takes 3 shots to each for a kill, if you shoot the mouth you might accidentally ricochet like you showed and hit the correct targets, but its a bit of misinfo from what i can see.
I don't dispute anything further once you get to mid sized enemies up to heavy sized enemies and your points are very agreeable there, I would point out that comboing weapons is a great way to get over those hurdles against brood commanders, chargers, and such, where maybe you just need to do 100-200 durable damage to get a kill. But this probably doesn't need to be said.
To conclude I think tenderizer is really good for bugs, but I think it needs those 5 extra rounds to properly shine, in hectic situations the ammo economy can become a significant issue. Similar to the Breaker Incindiary It isn't very good at dealing with bile spewer maps, This can be a really big let down. Despite those points I think Tenderizer is the best AR's have ever been against bugs by a country mile, and it shows the community not every weapon needs to be medium penetrating or explosive to be supreme.
The devs should give the Tenderizer back it's 10 spare magazines, so +3 more magazines.
I think it’s time for an updated primary weapon Tier List please 🙏 ❤
Idk why but i'm just very averse to tierlisting content. Maybe this is the time to do just one
@@EravinVT I wouldn't trust anyone else's opinion on what's good in the most demanding condition of solo max difficulty.
Burst for bots, full auto for bugsp, this rifle just works!
mmmm love me some Chicken Tenders 😋
Also, a War Thunder sponsorship is good, look at you moving up in the ranks!
tyty for watchin :)
I honestly never use any primary that can't deal with medium pen. The only exception might be the incendiary breaker
Im glad they kept the handling of the tenderizer. The nerfs to ammo feel ok as it just brings it from "dann 10 clips?" to about the same as liberator.
also adjucator still dead in a ditch
Adjudicator has too much recoil
@@LaserTractor Remember that statistically, adju is still a bad sniper. When they changed the title, they didn't change any stats. This recent change with a bit more ammo was the first change to try to make it an assault. It's literally an "assault" with a marksman rifle's recoil and ammo count, no sh#t it's bad.
Yeah it's a shame about the ammo but the gun feels nice to use thanks to it's ergo and the damage is solid now
can you review the new booster, i’m curious what the damage reduction is like
Can probably figure that out yeah
DR aside, that boost in run speed is so freaking awesome, i feel like superman everytime i start hauling ass 😂 ill just bolt away or bolt straight into a base risking my life to destroy that 1 last bot manufacturer 😂
Try the Purifier imo it is actually good but very weird to get used to
The reason they dropped the magazine size and count was to make sure that it wasn't strictly an upgrade to the Liberator (which it was before the latest patch). They want you to choose weapons as the mission demands. Which means the differing choices in weaponry all just all alternative choices, suiting different playstyles or needs.
They should probably make the Liberator not a PoS if it's the balancing point then :P
@@EravinVT It could probably do with a magazine size and cap increase (to 50 bullets and an extra 2 mags, respectively), but it's not a PoS as it exists now.
So does the new warbond armor passive work or not ?
Love the new Tendy 🎉
No it does not
@@EravinVTsad they'll get it on the next patch eventually 😂
For an AR it's good. compared to other primaries ehhh. please don't nerf incendiary
Pretty much
Heyo I saw you shoot scout striders in the front plate with the autocannon. Not sure if you know, but if you shoot the upper leg joints they go down very consistent with only 2 shots
If you hit the top of the armor plate, walker's driver will die in two hits too
top of the plate is also 2
@@EravinVT ah ok didn’t know, I usually just go for the joints
I usd to use the scythe for bugs before they nerfed it. What’s the best thing similar to it ?
Tenderizer. Mag size is much lower but anything else is better. You may also try adjucator, but, aside from brood commanders and bugs with medium armor, it falls short
Congrats on the ad!
tyty!
HOLY FUCK THE LENGTH OF THAT WAR THUNDER AD.
Side note, if you do get into Warthunder Air, Bullet4MyEnemy is a good channel on how to win dogfights.
He does Warthunder and DCS, and his techniques apply to both.
Personally, I'm in it more for the co-op and sense of flying. If that's more you jam, then the DCS F-4E Phantom and F-14 Tomcat are currently top of the heap, but have a non-trivial investment in both time and money.
I've said this before, and I'll say it again, but not every weapon needs to have higher AP in order to be "good". We have stratagems for a reason, we have airstrikes, orbital cannons, support weapons designed to handle the elite enemies, especially now since they are not as common as they are before. Different tools for different situations and adds a level of challenge and thought in sorting out one's kit before a mission. This isn't bad, being able to strategize among your teammates on what to bring feels close to the co-op teamwork environment AH has been trying to achieve. "If everything is Medium AP, then nothing is."
The Tenderizer fulfills its purpose as an extremely accurate and methodical AR that can excel over long distances. Careful precision and control will greatly benefit the weapon's kill potential and ammo economy. Against automatons, this is amazing since weakpoint prioritizing is very important and easy to do with the gun's low recoil and fire rate. Against Terminids, the weapon works well as a pseudo-DMR to pick off bugs before they reach you and still functions well in CQC.
I'd personally rate this gun far higher than your's. Good handling, decent reloading, pinpoint accuracy, and the highest damage amongst ARs. It now sits in a very good spot compared to the previous patch.
Then don't use guns, use stratagems only tell me how that works out for you
there are still plenty of things that aren't medium AP and don't need to be- shotguns, handguns, smgs. But assault rifles should penetrate medium armor by default. that might make them somewhat competitive to the much better alternative options in the game. Plus it makes sense given how they behave in real life.
Yeah but the problem is the Sickle and Counter Sniper. One is a better AR with infinite ammo and the other is a better Tab Fire gun with actual damage and pen. ARs were and still are fine but simply outclassed.
The biggest problem with light pen isn't the lack of access to medium armor, it's hitting all light armor for half damage. This comes up aloooot in terminids as you can see. While 95 damage is great 47.5 is not, and that's what you get alot of against Terminids, even less if they have durability %. The ammo cut along with these facts, bring the weapon down compared to other weapon options that do not have these issues. No Stagger my rating is extremely fair.
I'm so happy the Halo rifle got buffed!!
It's actually really fun and worth bringing now!! I'm really feeling the lack of rounds and mags though, I really wish they wouldn't nerf those as much since HD1 has massive mags that are plentiful apparently....
Buuuuuuuut, I'm not gonna complain too much cause I'm satisfied with the direction this patch/bond went and want the game to keep going!! Gotta make a sacrifice somewhere!! :3