Ukraine Recaptures Sloviansk: Russian Roulette (Dispatch 54)
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
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On July 5, the eastern Ukrainian town of Sloviansk was recaptured by the Ukrainian military, driving out pro-Russia rebels and ending their three-month occupation. VICE News correspondent Simon Ostrovsky travels back to Sloviansk and visits the cell in which he was held for days by those rebels in April. The city is in shambles and residents are struggling to find food and water despite a considerable humanitarian effort. The pro-Russia rebels have retreated to Donetsk, but the Ukrainian government is determined to pursue its anti-terror operation until there are no rebels left.
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Just imagine what that old lady has lived through. So many conflicts. She’s 90 years old here so she was alive during operation Barbarossa in 1941. She’s literally lived through hell so many times
@Yugesh Patnaik those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it - Churchill (and a few others before)
@Yugesh Patnaik what do Ukrainians should understand?!! Conflict? This is the war against Ukraine and those bastards are not separatists, they are Russians and their collaborators! Give J&K to Pakistan, you, piss maker!
@@chingizsalla in this video Ukrainians are bombing separatist areas,killing people over 5000 died since 20014. these areas have wanted top be separate for a long time, and do not want to be part of kyiv they used to also be part of Russia and have been separate in the past, it's not some integral part of Ukraine, and Ukraine giving up this area is not an issue, they could do this and go on their way and beg junker to make the right decisions for their independent Ukraine, u literally just saw the truth of the situation and closed your eyes to it, these separatist areas should be recognized and when they became separate no one had died Ukraine however started shelling and killing
Yugesh Patnaik look how the russians are treating the "beother nation" now... they haven't learned anything, they still like authoritarianism and reflexively believe that they're the good guys and whoever the government says are bad are the bad guys.
@Yugesh Patnaik Tell it to terrorussian s.
Ever since Simon Ostrovsky was captured and released, there seems to be more and more Russians targeting these videos to try and change viewer opinions. Why would you even bother? The whole point of a good documentary is to capture real events and present them in a non-biased perspective. Even before he was captured, he tried to interview Pro-Russian soldiers and they were assholes to him. On one occasion, they captured him saying he had a knife on him when he was unarmed. Do not think that he has not tried to get a Russian point of view on this.
Trying to appeal to people's commonsense is more like it. I doubt many Russians or Ukrainians actually watch VICE, not that they have something against the content, but there are many outlets that provide up-to-date coverage in their languages.
Nope, Westerners are the majority on these videos, which is why 100% of the comments are in English.
thay get payd
конечно, и бабушкам заплатили, чтоб они поплакали на камеру. Кто будет помогать этим людям? Ответ. Никто....
Why you all talking about Russia? ДНР is not a Russia :D
And tell me, who destroy this buildings?
I like Vice news because its really news, not a fucking propaganda like a CNN,BBC, Russia today
Ден Манулов Pro-Russians and Separatists are almost the same thing.
That old lady made me cry.
I was thinking what was she eating?!!! I hope there some kind people who can help her!!!
shes obviously a fighter being by herself for 30 years and can "take care of herself" but holy shit i am bawling my eyes out
The thousands of 18-25 year old that died, didn't?
Vlad B Yes but those guys wanted to go in a war the civilians didnt do nothing
Yes, but if they didn't, those people would of starved. Its only sad that there is a camera in her face? Click the "like" button few extra times for YOUR support.
Tough Old Lady, Respect.
I can’t imagine how difficult it must’ve been for Simon to be back where he was held captive so soon after the trauma.
compared to the trauma the locals were going through, his was nothing.
@@jambo308 emphasis on "compared to". He can't possibly experience what they're going through, he isn't two people, his suffering happened and was real, was it as bad as the man who's family was killed or the man who was ambushed? No, but getting beaten by a gang who you know can kill you is something, it's not nothing alone, it's only nothing if you compare it to the worst of the worst, there's no point! If that's how we thought about these things, then the only Ukrainian who could complain is the ukranian whos suffered the most.
@@GettinJiggyWithGenghis you're going into a war torn enviroment, with people living in it day to day, what happened to Simon for a week certainly isn't comparable to the daily life of a citizen and if you want to make it into a measurement contest feel free however the original comment was more directed toward the "Western journalist guest into 3rd world and media parades them as a hero when something wrong happens" critique, be more feely.
@@jambo308 what happened to the citizens isn't comparable to the people in hell, and that's why we don't compare traumas, it's totally useless.
@@GettinJiggyWithGenghis "it's totally useless" says the person debating in a youtube comment section with me.
That old woman at the end, poor thing. She's been alone for years, she's seen the world change so many times, been through much more trauma than most people are, then she gets caught up in a war of petty politics and land grabbing. Just look at the people outside, they don't see one another as Ukrainians anymore, just pointing fingers like children while old women at the end are lucky to be alive.
Too many people are dying over this, and neither side seems to have intentions on stopping until the other is obliterated. What a shame, because the major victims are the ones caught in the crossfire, and in the end superheated lead projectiles and explosives don't have political beliefs.
And she was thankfull for wather 😢😢
Our elders are to be protected no matter which side you are on.
agree
From your lips to God's ears. Unfortunately in a civil war the innocents are the first to die.
I too agree
This is the saddest yet greatest doco series vice has ever done. Simon is so brave to go back to the location where he was held captive. I wonder how this will all play out.
now we know :(
@@nikolayew 😓
@@nikolayew Sloviansk making the headlines again today 03 July '22
So sad, How it has played out. Its the everyday people like this who die and suffer for the greed of the powerful.
I've watched Simon for some time without ever knowing about his abduction or this backstory My already high regard for Simon has increased substantially.
Simon did an amazing job in Ukraine. He should have won an emmy. I've watched like 23 of these videos just today alone
I'm shocked that the reporter stayed here and is still reporting. Truly dedicated.
This is probably the best and saddest dispatch I've seen. I felt bad for the old lady and all the people that lost a lot during these events that should not have happened for one reason or another.
This ending had me left heartbroken. In every war you have people fighting over their beliefs, but it's people like this old lady who stands to lose the most. People who are passive, and don't want any part of these dick-measuring monstrosities. I'm not trying to pick side here, as I think both sides have their reasons .. My concern is with the civilians caught in the line-of-fire.
Thank you so much Simon; for your devotion to journalism, and for your tenacity and courage. I am a former US Marine and a veteran of the 2004 assault on Fallujah, and you are a braver and better man than I. Good Luck.
That poor old lady. I felt so bad for her, her story was heart breaking. After everything she has witnessed in the past 90 years, I can only imagine how she feels seeing her fellow countrymen fight.
The Only side to blame for this mess are the Separatists. They brought this on themselves and the residents who supported them. The Lawful, government of Ukraine has every right to put down an armed resistance. If they had grievances, then they should have peacefully protested and brought their concerns up through the political process. I am sure the current government would not have shot Protestors, as the last one had done.
Edit: I have to add that I do feel horrible for the situation these people are in. In most cases, the apartments are their only "wealth". When the Soviet Union collapsed, these people were given ownership of the apartments in which they lived. I know from personal knowledge, that in many cases all these older people have are their apartments and a $200 a month pension from the government.
Its a horrible situation that these Ukrainians have been put in.
Nobody listened
Correction: the overthrown government did not shoot the protesters. That's why they, you know, got overthrown. The current gov't DID turn a blind eye and had the police stand down/not intervene when protesters in Odessa were burned and gassed by yet-to-be-prosecuted far-right extremists. Neither is the current government open to any type of discussion about federalization. Just politics.
human151 or held a referendum, it worked for Crimea.
*****
good job at regurgitating russian propaganda.
human151 wOOt
god bless that old woman at the end. I feel so awful for her and everyone else in that complex
In Soviet Russia, man who is bound and blindfolded while being beaten is pitiful, not the men taking pride in beating the bound man.
This fucking Russian logic, man.
"The infrastructure of Slavyansk and Kramatorsk wasn't destroyed." -- at the same time shows the picture of lots and lots of destroyed buildings, factories and medical stations.
why i love vice.
its incredible to see how many moronic people out there believe any other media than the one that shows you true pictures, without any context or a conspiracy, it just shows you what's happening, and yet people still defend their "rights" which come from - woop woop - either RT or CNN.
its sad.
someone needs to help that poor woman!!! Dont let her live her lasts days like that
Watching simon help that old woman up to her apartment was the sweetest thing. I almost got choked up. He's my god.
That poor old woman.. Reminds me of my beloved grandmother.. Omg that broke my heart god bless her keep her safe.. Hope ppl come together and support her there.. Absolutely devastating brought me to tears.. So blessed to be in a first world country where we take so much for granted everyday.. I hope the country of Ukraine sees peace and stability very soon.. God bless
They just leave so much destruction and then retreat like the cowards that they are. How many times does this have to happen to these people in those regions. 8yrs later here we are again!
I fully support UKRAINE!!!
*****
nuh mexico doesnt have power to invade but russia doest but i bet Putin is scared i Bet he is/on and if u do support mexico be ready to invade US or your a lier/or should i say couch warrior?
Luked Guilt SAME GOES TO ME TOO 😂🙌
War is hell.
It sad that people have to die, and lose so much.
Maybe if people would do a little more talking and less fighting.
These things would not happen.
War should always be the last resort.
We need to pray for all people involved in this mess.
The Ukrainian people and the pro Russian rebels.
At the end of the day we are all human beings.
wantafanta01 The water has been so muddied by the media. I do not even know who is telling the truth any more. So I will leave that up to the people there in the stink.
But I will continue to pray for all involved.
Да какая тут неразбериха, все понятно! США в Сирии не смогло свергнуть правительство, а тут получилось. У России с Европой большой товарооборот, вот и решили его прервать, которая хочет в Европу. Senator McCain в 2013 году пригрозил России, что она скоро дорого заплатит за своё непослушание (не отдали Snowden), я это прекрасно помню! А помните под каким предлогом хотели ввести войска НАТО в Сирию? Под предлогом применения химического оружия! И тут опять вмешалась Россия и сирийское химическое оружие уничтожили!
wantafanta01 "the pro-russian rebels werent blindly firing artillery at area's they know has a civilian population..." because they are hiding among them.
Cycle of violence continues.
Funny is...thats all because of parasite gods, so even if intentions of your are right and wise...conclusion shows how much more you have to learn.
My heart goes out to that old lady at the end. She could have been any of our grandmothers. If I could, I'd fly her out here so she could stay with my family. It's actually so heartbreaking, I almost wanted to close the video. Hopefully they get more aid and the soldiers in the area can help out with the cleanup given the separatists have fled.
UKRAINIAN ARMY - YOU ARE OUR HEROES
Украинская армия - это банда убийц и насильников!
@@АлександрСанаров-в6к Украинская Армия это Герои Украины !А ты Фашист как и твой путин
Damn, I really have to commend the journalist for continuing his work, even going back to the scene of the crime where he was kidnapped, we need more selfless people like Simon.
Their blood is on Putins little chubby hands. Slava Ukraine
If you do understand what you've said, please explain how Putin did it.
Encouraging the uprising which is little more than a powerplay for him and domestic Russian politics.
KMA Freddie, "encouraging the uprising"? Do you suggest to surrender and be murdered without resistance, "quickly and painlessly"? *Never*.
В сра.ло Дур.каине 😂
I live in a complicated country as well, just remember brothers from Ukraine. Goverments come and go, YOU ARE THE COUNTRY! Politicians, Bankers, Mafia or not, WEAR PROUDLY YOUR COLORS IN THE FLAG! If the people it's not corrupted, the corrupt goverments will always be ashamed, REVOLUTION IS NEVER SURRENDER! Never surrender your flag, homeland and your folks!
GOOD LUCK! I'm happy to hear the news!
former communist countries must suck to live in with all the war and corruption
zachary159
Thy Latin america countries, aka, future communist countries!
What revolution? This is a civil war you nutcase.
You can see all of Putin's internet trolls hard at work in the comments section of all these Vise dispatches. :/ Pitiful really.
Haha, and you're not a troll?
Macorian we got a troll here ^
Luke Gardiner anyone who disagrees with you and who’s first language isn’t English is a Russian or Chinese super spy here to deceive you lol keep dreaming 😂
Jaime Stardust Oh shit here’s one.
There are a lot of real people, too. I am not a troll, just someone who wants to see what is going on. Ostrovsky, in spite of the attacks on him here by various people on both sides, is, I think, a very honest guy, and pretty brave. He was threatened with death, beaten up multiple times, but remains a reporter. There is a model for a war journalist.
Dear Simon,
Thank you so much for your brave, and informed reporting. It could not have been easy going back to that cell. Please keep the updates coming. Politics aside, if their is a way we can help with the humanitarian aid please let us know.
Thank you.
Puting trolls in 3,2,1..................
You left out the paid part. Paid Putin trolls in 3,2,1..................
Because they have a different opinion makes him a troll? I've seen american trolls and not even ONE russian troll.
Meh Gusta Ok man, whatever you say.
Meh Gusta The russian rhetoric itself it ass backwards. Nazi's and junta handing out water and bread. Real fucking nazis...More then the seperatists had for them.
AH FUCK!
Watching that old woman just broke my heart. Felt so bad for her...alone for 30 years and suddenly in the middle of this hell.
Slava Ukraina, The rest of Donetsk will fall with it, let's just hope the Separatists don't drag it out and waste more lives on their foolish cause.
4 years later and Donetsk is nowhere near falling.
@@gmk746 nor they have reached Kiev lol
This comment is interesting
6:17-6:20 Look at their reactions, they admited everything. They have been 'persona non songrata' in that city for about 8 years
While watching all the past dispatches that mostly show the fighters, you tend to forget about the civilians that got effected. The last woman brought me to tears. I hope everything turns out alright in the end for her and all of the people effected by this senseless bullshit.
This really wasn't a well fought victory for the naz.... Sorry, ukrainian army. The militia new that slaviansk would be impossible to defend against a full on assualt from the military since the city is soo big and to hard to defend will soo few numbers. The donbass people's militia is made up of teachers,doctors,lawyers,fathers,brothers and mothers aswell as ex army verterns, defected soldiers, Chechens,Ossetians Georgians and a few Cossacks that came to help from russia. With fewer that ~1000 defending slaviansk, a retreat was their best option. They retreated with hight hopes. They may have won this battle, but the war has just begun... SLAVA DONBASS!
and the paid upvotes begin
Piezipx maybe Kremlin ran out of Money :D
The war began a while ago, and the rebels haven't made one single territorial gain since the Ukrainian Army counterattack. gg.
Sphynra the rebels dont want to make territorial ganes, they just want to live in peace in the area that THEY control and not be burned alive by the right sector like their comrades in Odessa!
***** trust me, I would love to. And soon I will.
"what else can they do" indeed... i can't help but to wonder how these soldiers are feeling right now 7 years later
Ones that are alive probably not are not feeling very good about Russia unleashing so much suffering on their people but at least it has become very clear they are on the right side of history now.
i loved how that guy went up and nearly kissed simon at the start of the video i was like "woah bro simon barely knows you"
The separatists brought death, destruction, and authoritarianism. The ZSU brought bread.
Simon is the best. Cooler then James Bond. :D
So, do I understand this correctly, the Ukrainians shelled a residential building? OMG
At 11:20, the old woman was describing the attack on the city and apartment by Ukraine military that Simon was reporting with the day before.
Great video, again excellent job, Simon. Your dispatches are the best!
SLAVA UKRAINI!!!
Дырявым слава!!!
Героям Слава!
💪💪💪💪💪
Слава потомкам предателей и карателей! Украинские полицаи самые полицайские в мире!
I come back to watch the Russian Roulette series every so often. It always gets me when I see Simon helping that lady
ditto though i`ll also add it always gets me how those soldiers chuckle when asked how the population reacted
That last part was so sad... :(
my god that old lady is so adorable. reminds me of my great grandmother.
Oh simon so sweet of you helping that sweet babushka up the stairs, I love you man
What type of government does this to their people though? was war the only option? couldn't they have used foot soldiers head on approach or was bombing and shelling the only way? Bloody hell there was no respect to the safety of civilians here and the civilians should charge them. If it was an Arab government which did this i am sure there would've been a NATO or American backed army to topple that existing government that ruled with an iron fist over its people........*from a non bias point of view but rather a humanitarian one*
... that would be the government forced upon a nation after a "democratic revolution". The existing government of Ukraine.
but why bomb i am sure foot soldier confrontation would've been better if war was the only ultimatum they had at their disposal
Bullshit. You can't rush a fortified town with infantry unless you're prepared to lose loads of them. Besides; if you try, the damage would be much worse. Thing about soldiers is that they don't really want to die any more than anyone else, so if you start throwing them away, they'll mutiny. It's well documented that the (pro) Russians used to hide their mortar positions inside the city, so the Ukrainians either had to just sit still and get blown up or shoot back to show them that they couldn't count on human shields.
In the end the rebs had to abandon the city; not because they were bombed out of it, but because it got surrounded.
Nkakzola Africano From the humanitarian point of view, it would be best to put all ambitions aside and all weapons down, for either side. But they fight and use all kinds of weapon, the bombs are just less predictable and leave more noticeable marks.
Snagabott very true I hear your justification of things but come on man those old people had despair written on their faces. Good enough they lost the city but yes they got shelled which ultimately led to them being surrounded and they had to abandon it if they wanted to survive. My biggest concern is what happened to other options was this the only option? why has it come so easy to mankind to resort to violence as a method of instilling control or power?
Glad Simon is OK. Love his reports I'm always looking forward to his next one.
Keep safe Simon 👍 😊...
This is what I'm talking about......You got to love Simon's reporting!....Really good story.....I hope they get the help they need...
It is weird how all people in that town are over 50 years old...
Russia and the former soviet states have been struggling with population decline. Therefore, the population is older.
plus everyone younger is fighting for the separatist or Ukraine
Well, I would think the people currently there are older cause all younger peoples (especially with families fled). While older people, such as the 90 year old women we see cannot mainly due to there age. Or further more, they feel the need to stay cause it's there home, and where would they go.
Ahmed theLion
you are a genius really :) **sarcasm**
simply most of the young people left.
because its harder for elders to leave.
Simon... Hats off to your brother. still reporting as unbiased as you can after everything that that happen to you there.
Brilliant work on this episode Simon! and the cameraman
Luckily for Simon those DNR guys are probably dead now
Thank you so much VICE for showing everyone what is happening.
Poor old Lady. Thank you Simon and voice great work
Damn I think the Ukrainians have learned how to fight. They took it to the rebels and kicked the shit out of them.
Donetsk rebels will see worse.
***** Right like RT said, a retreat is really a small victory. I guess the Ukrainian army should make the pro-Russians retreat into the black sea.....then by your logic the rebels will have won.
LOL.
Andrew MRQ I guess, I have no experience with them personally. I think that they have a shit load more confidence than before though.
You went back, Simon.
That's the easiest reason to continue to trust content from VICE News - men and women who return to danger to share real stories.
I have been held captive and tortured badly myself. Worst experience in my entire life, both mentally and physically debilitating. I have very bad PTSD that I have to constantly regulate with medication and therapy. I hope you have your issues sorted out if you have any. I have been watching the series videos you have made, and I can say that you are a damn good investigative journalist. You have some big fucking balls.
3:46
The lady's speaking speed exceeds the speed of any long range missile used in the Russo-Ukrainian war! 😂😂😂😂😂
The same Russian trolls commenting again and again....
You guys are the real heroes, the real journalists. Your sacrifice is immense. Thank you for continuing and facing your fears head on.
Низкий Поклон Vice News за Правду и Объективность!
Вы МОЛОДЦЫ!
Finally they abandoned it, now civilians no longer have to get hit by inaccurate arty.
part of the problem was that. and part of the problem was them mortaring. near civilian location and expecting ukraine army filled with conscripts not to fire back. it's like hamas firing rockets at Israel and expecting them not to fire back. not that i agree with Israel or anything. i dont. but if hamas wants to be a real country and get upset about loses. then it needs to move those rockets underground firing location not fire from the middle of the city
MsTokies yeah, it's sad to hear about civilians dying because some soldiers are too scared to move away from their homes. If it's an occupation and their guerrillas I could understand but this was them just shooting from the town and if the Ukrainians ever fired back it was because they were fascists.
Stupid yet hard to argue logic.
Christian Gallegos the people the police where stupid. seriously stupid. but it was propaganda. they where told they made so much money they couldnt keep told that the other parts of ukraine where not worth as much as they where. told that there would be great reward to go become russia. but russia doesnt give a shit about them. they need ukraine yes. they need E ukraine. but they want to rule it with the burden of people having a say. same for the EU for that matter. the sad part is no one knows how much ukraine is worth because everyone has been stealing from it for so long. the side effect of the austerity might be figuring out how much ukraine actually makes.
MsTokies they are a middle ground with the EU and the RF, and they do hold three major oil pipelines connecting Russia with Europe.
In my opinion they should join the EU, without them they will be threatened by Russia, again, and with Russia they'll become a puppet with some other Russian power hungry president like Putin.
Let's hope Ukraine chooses the lesser of two evils.
Christian Gallegos true there are no good guys in this. i hope they get that Crimea oil field back
Poor old lady... just. I don’t even know. I feel really sad for her
Man it was tough for me to watch the elderly lady. You can see and feel the fear and pain in her eyes. I see someone like that I automatically think of my grandmother, maybe that’s the reason I tend to go out of my way to try and help someone who’s elderly like that.
Ukrainian Soldier: We been in here for two days now.
Reporter: What do the people say to you since you arrived?
Ukrainian Soldier: They cry and thank us... HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA... HA HA HA HA HA HA HA... what else can they say?
This is a bit disturbing. I am starting to doubt the Ukrainians are really the good guys.
Well they are soldiers after all. Soldiers that are forced to kill people and watch people getting killed. Humour will be used so that nobody goes mental.
The soldier means: there's a lot of citizens here who still favour the separatists, but now that we're here, what else can they say?
That's what you get for starting a rebellion.
Never start a rebellion.
Yup one day some guy and his buddies oust the government the next day another group of guys are going to oust you. Once the system and standard of respect collapses it all turns to shit.
You guys are idiots. I am pretty damn sure your country was also founded on a rebellion of some sort.
Thank you for your courage and sacrifice Simon.
I just came from the capture video, seeing how everything changed seems to surreal. Headpats and hugs for Simon
SIMON make please videos on russian, we need true too !!!
Russians beat him and kidnapped him for 3 days, he isn't going to make any videos
You can not forgive those who did this. This made the Ukrainian army.
angga mussafi because..american propaganda
because...african propaganda
angga mussafi because..canadian propaganda
Crab people , Crap people....
enoz2 Hello, is this the Krusty Krab?
Thank you Vice news. You are the only news source that I can find (besides RT) that goes in depth and at the scene with their news. This is what journalism is supposed to be
And thank you Simon for sharing your experience. It must be hard to keep an open mind after what they did. You and your crew the best reporters I have ever seen.
Wait, was he captured during those 2-3 episodes where we had those younger guys instead?
Poor babushka
Thats never going to happen unless Ukraine joins Nato
wake up moron
'
It's so sad to see a poor old lady in such a dire situation... It make me realize more how depressing the war is...
no winners in war only death sorrow and lots of misery
@@audrina1211 I didn't imagine it would be escalating 7 years since I last commented. Hopefully the situation doesn't turn into an all out war.
That old lady living alone for 30 years broke my heart.
-Плачят и благодарят, затем смеются как гиены, а что им ещё остаётся?
Тоже обратил внимание, реально как гиены,противно...
69th view. How...fitting for me.
Of course they are all accusing each other. When a cause begins to fall of a fucking cliff it rots from within. Those involved go from partisan to selfish to save their own damn hides. Execute the lot of them if none will confess, but all will accuse.
while i agree with your points you make a good one i think executing them is a little extreme
Nathaniel Grim
Mate, it's not a serious account. Look at his name, he's roleplaying a roman emperor ~.~ It might not be as obvious in this post, but just look at some of his other ones.
I think it's funny, though.
TheRealXartaX Even if he was roleplaying, Hadrian would've been quite liberal for a monarch in the 2nd century
TheRealXartaX LOL OK XD totally didnt see that
listening to that lady speaking and crying, made me sick. Sick of violence and injustice. Thanks VICE to report this and thanks Simon Ostrovsky. I wish and I hope Ukranian Authorities will help this people and will keep peace.
Breaks my heart to see those poor people
Love the weird propaganda war going on in the comments, feels like a mini-cold war.
On a serious note, do VICE think Simon is the best person to report on this? I don't think he's as biased as some make out but he certainly must harbour some sour feelings to the Separatists (understandably as they arrested him on a ridiculous pretence). This conflict is so tragic as both sides seem so unwilling to open anything near a constructive diplomatic dialogue. The USA and Russia seem to be living in the 19th century with their balance of power bullshit, which treats Ukraine as another sphere of influence. Such a shame for the civilians caught in the middle.
Agreed. Vice News and Babylon'13 are two of my most favorite channels covering this subject.
Since he is a Russian speaker, people are normally more open towards him, so they tell more. Thus, he is the best one, regardless of what feelings he has towards somebody.
O-yea...What happened to the two woman from a few months back at a press conference they acted like there shit didnt stink and they were saying not to ask certain things or else...I would love to see them now....lol
I love how that soldier made the old man shut up and stop bitching
Simon said that he was beaten up, I read in other site that the moment he was release he show no signs of injury, is this true?
What a disgrace to reporting.
How?
You are a disgrace to human race, degenerate troll
Russians are so pitiful.
While major news companies sit around in their comfy American offices and sends ONE reporter to get some "frontline news" (which usually just another description of the events) Vice really goes and becomes part of the action, going to places deemed unsafe by the rest of the media, getting themselves into danger, and following close behind the front lines of the good stuff. If you're ready to have biased and half-fake bull**** shoved into your brain, be my guest. If you believe in the future of news reporting, shut up.
this isnt a disgrace to reporting.other content they have is.
Украинские войска уничтожили город.И при этом кричат что они освободители.
yes,Simon,they beat you so bad you were covered head to toes in bruises.Heck they even called your parents to let them know you were right.So far four of your fellow journalist werent half as lucky with the ukraine army.
That's heartbreaking I pray for everyone involved.
Thank you for your work, Simon. Greetings from Chile, South America... I've been following your dispatches for the last couple of months. Keep the good job.
Ukraine is going to lose this war. They're fighting on their own turf against insurgents. Other wars in the past are very similar to this one.
Soviet-Afghan War
Vietnam War
American Revolutionary War
You know what all these wars have in common? A super powers that were fighting against an unorganized armed group, they all lost. Ukraine can drop thousands of rebel bodies but that won't be enough to deter from giving up.
"Unorganized armed group"; sure buddy, the NVA and VC weren't organized and backed by the USSR, the colonists were unorganized and weren't backed by Spain and France, the Taliban were unorganized and weren't backed by the USA. What are you on? Crack? Or do you just not know History AT ALL?
Well, you and the 2 people who upvoted your ignorant comment (Might only be one person though)
Also let me add, these groups had the support of the people, the seperatists clearly don't have the support of the majority, look at how they just turn their coats once the Ukrainian army steps in, there's even a guy admitting to it when he says that the lady is just like them, a turncoat.
TheMrRedSir No sorry, my point stands, you're ignorant. Calling someone ignorant isn't an insult. Let me add that unlike all of the examples you mentioned, the Ukrainian Army is fighting people on Ukrainian soil (their soil), unlike every war you mentioned. Just noticed another fallacy in your ignorant logic.
Go ahead, insult me some more to compensate for your stupidity.
SovietButcher
Ukraine is going to lose this war. They're fighting on their own turf against insurgents. Other wars in the past are very similar to this one.
Soviet-Afghan War
Vietnam War
American Revolutionary War
You know what all these wars have in common? A super powers that were fighting against an unorganized armed group, they all lost. Ukraine can drop thousands of rebel bodies but that won't be enough to deter from giving up.
TheMrRedSir Ok, again, those groups weren't unorganized. I think you need to get that through your thick skull. Number 2, these wars involved invaders that had nothing to do in the war; involving themselves against locals. Here it's the oppostie, we have Russian and Chechens involving themselves with the insurgents against the locals.
Did you see how quick the people switched sides?! Ukrainian army comes in, EVERYONE IS PRO UKRAINE! How funny. Compare that to the wars you mentioned and you'll notice that the insurgents had popular support ESPECIALLY when the US,USSR or the British Empire were occupying an area.
Again, learn the History before trying to compare things.
My point stands, you're ignorant and probably never even read a book about these wars you're using as examples.
SovietButcher Of course there is going to be turn coats, like how most people were at the start of the American revolutionary war.
When the British gained some ground, the people were cheering for them, and when the Patriots gained some ground, people cheered for them.
first comment. yay.
Lucky
But you aren't 1st. UA-cam doesn't always show the first comments. Not that it matter who the fuck is first....... It's annoying as fuck to see 30+ people on every video saying 1st.
first comment. yay.
The Mean Conservative
first...o wait
That last woman made me so sad, i hope she is still ok
Thank you, Vice, for binging to light the tragedies of this world and the legitimate struggles of real people.
Simon is your #1 source for propoganda, that's why he was beaten up.
gilzineto It's funny you say that yet you eat up American propaganda and ask for "seconds".
Thats how people with your perpective sees the world, if i dont agree with you im eating up your enemies propaganda, even tho i dont think that ether side tells the whole picture, they never will, the truth is told be the winners, so someone will aways say that makes them look as heros! So yeah, you are brainwashed, people who get the story from "america" and believes in it without questioning it are also brainwashed and doesnt matter how much you hate that i disagree with you and keep saying im brainwashed, nope, i just dont follow blindfully to just one side of the story!
All news from vice including the news on Ukraine seem very neutral and unbiassed. Just because they are Western does not mean they report with Western views.
Vincent Vernay Unbiased and neutral? Hah. Well maybe their series should be called something else instead of not so subtly suggestful "Russian Roulette" (top kek, Vice editors.). Maybe their reports should feature the real, unedited sides of the story. How many times have you seen their reports portraying Ukrainian citizens as the level-headed and peaceful people? And how many times have you seen them show ethnically-Russian citizens as the most aggressive and just feral human beings?
The whole point of their "news" series is to do nothing but demonise Russia. You can bet a top dollar that they are either paid to do so, or just share the same anti-Russian view as a group.
SovietDoge At one point in this video they said that that elderly home got hit by UKRAINIAN artillery fire. Do you think that they would say that if they were trying to demonize Russia? And maybe the pro russians are being showed as more aggressive because they see the camera and know that it is Western media.
what i see as an issue here , respect your elders !!!!!! you dont know what they went thru in their 19`s ?
Those last few seconds of the video... and that last zoomed in snapshot of the old lady... speaks the horror of the conflict.