I received mine this morning, they had a discount code which brought the price down to a little over 800.00. Within an hour of it arriving I was printing. I am working on a large print of about a half of spool. It will be finished by morning. about 12 hours. My old printer would take about 2-3 days.
I look forward to a follow-up when you have more experience with the K1 Max. I love the large build volume. I don't need or want the lidar or camera so hopefully Creality offers a cost reduced version without those features. I want the full open source Klipper. For all they got right with the K1 and K1 Max, Creality deserves a lot of scorn for ripping off Klipper, not providing attribution or the open source documents as required, and even worse, stripping it down to make it not only a proprietary version of open source software (which is evil) but also a crippled version (which is stupid).
Bambu Lab P1s is a bit cheaper but this has a bigger build plate and sooooooo much better screen. Creality announced this going open source in September. Never really cared for AMS on Bambu Lab printers. I might get this and just keep it for a very long time.
Do you have and footage of the camera view? Does the footage get saved to a USB drive or internal storage. if it does internal how much storage does it have and how much can it hold? Is it time lapse only or can save full video? If creality can make a decent printer this seems interesting but not having an AMS is a huge drawback once you know what it can do.
I'd have a use for an AMS if it fed TPU, which it doesn't, so the AMS is a needless expense, complexity and something to break as far as I'm concerned. I guess it's great if you like watching your printer poop expensive filament.
@@Liberty4Ever So let's go over what the AMS can do. 1. It can hold 4 KG worth of filament 2. It offers filament run out options. Not often talked about but a life and time saver in execution. 3. You do not have to touch a roll since it is all automated. That means no manually switching compatible filament, load and unload until it runs out. 4. *I rarely run multicolor prints* so I personally dont have as much filament waste. So the printer purging filament before a print is about 1-2 cents worth of filament. but it can be wasteful if you dont tune it/run tons of multicolor prints. If you are smart about it you run multiple cloned prints, at a time, since the waste is the same for all models on the build plate. 5. The filament is in a dry box with desiccant and there is a humidity sensor. 6. I have been using mine for 11 months and still working strong.(but things break eventually) So yeah you can run soft or abrasive filaments...sorta. There are some types you can run but it will wear it out faster since abrasives are...abrasive. There are some TPU filaments you can run in the AMS but I do not recommend it nor does Bambu. So here are the little things it can do in combination. I can be out and about and start a print anywhere. I can have someone at the printer change the bed and I can continue printing remotely. So just the other day I had a client who wanted a new sample. I spun up a local pc on my network sliced and file and sent it to the printer. By the time I got back to the printer the part was ready. That may not be your ideal but darned if it wasn't convenient and efficient use of time. Fortunately the AMS is optional if you like manually loading common filaments and a great addition if you dont.
The AMS is a huge differentiator between Bambu and the other brands. People who can only imagine it being used for multicolored print is missing out. What's funny is I can use up a bunch of spools that would otherwise go to waste, My ams has been reliable for thousands of filament changes. Once you know, you know
@@No0o0o0o0o0 - I've read many comments about how great the AMS is but many are general comments without specific examples. I don't find those convincing. Ashleys3dprintshop implied that the AMS can automatically switch between rolls of filament when one roll is expended. If so, that would be somewhat useful to me in some applications where switching filament wouldn't ruin the print, and it would be very nice not to waste the filament that isn't enough for an entire print. That would be valuable to me, particularly if the printer was smart enough to change filament during the infill where it wouldn't make a surface defect. Other than that. I've heard nothing that would make the AMS useful for me.
@@Liberty4Ever You need to have some forethought about how the AMS is used if you want it to do runout duty. In the software, screen or phone app the filament has to be the same type and color. Or told it is the same color and type (it can be set manually) and it can run through the rolls saving a print or using up nearly spent rolls . AMS also has nfc tag reader if you have bambu filament that sets everything automatically but I dont use that personally. I assume that would be good for newbs as it takes out the guess work for filament flowrates, temps speed etc. It wouldn't cause surface defects though. Again I have done thousands of filament swaps with different colors but I warn against that in your case because it would be wasteful imho. You would be doing filament swaps every layer( surface filament 1 then infill filament 2l) which would be crazy wasteful and take forever for even small prints. You can tune it to be efficient though but some color swaps will always be wasteful. Think white filament to black. There needs to be a decent about of purging. There is another "feature" it has. They call it a multi material system which is technically true but some filaments cannot bind/bond/stick to together. You can use that to your advantage. Use pla as supports for petg parts or vice versa. Soluble supports, breakaway supports etc and the that does not have to be wastefull if you know how to tweak it. Basically use the same filament 1(petg) supports for 99% of the print. Then use filament 2(pla) for 1 layer that interfaces to the part. Breaks up easy like me an my ex gf. lol. I cant say you would find use for it, but for me its pretty neat.
I received my K-Max two days ago. The top frame member / crown is not square. The diagonals measure 21-7/16" and 21-11/16". So it's a full .25 inches out of square. As a result, the glass lid does not seat properly on the frame. How can I fix this?????
Thank you for the great review, I am wondering if you could tell me the measurements of the glass lid, I want to create a new top for mine and have the design ready when it arrives, Thanks
I may have missed this point in your excellent description, so please bear with me. I am trying to plan a mounting location. The 'Product Dimension' define the K1 Max 'WxHxD' footprint as 435 mmx 482mm x 526mm, but is that just the enclosure cube?? ie: Does the 'D' 526mm include the mounted Spool Holder depth, and any touch panel protrusion out the front? The Spool holder seems to be an extra 100mm or so. Thx for your help.
Note that they have changed the specification for bed heating, originally it was specified at a maximum of 120c, now it is only a maximum of 100c, a disappointment!
I was looking at the K1 but so many people had problems with it. I went with the X1 Carbon and have been happy. Now that I own an X1C and seeing the K1 Max it's literaly a low quality copy of the X1. I couldn't believe how many things they copied including the software menu and shipment screw locations.
Some people consider the K1's steel guide rods and larger stepper motors to be better than the Bambu Lab printer design, and Bambu's near insistence on using their Chinese cloud is a complete non-starter for me.
I own 4 X1C’s. And have ordered a K1 Max. The K1/Max is 300mm x 300mm x 300mm. Whereas the Carbon is 256mm x 256mm x 256mm, you really do not get true 256. Carbon has the AMS. However I believe I can write a patch in kipper for the 3D chameleon system. 3-D chameleon system works perfect on the One carbon. I'd like it a lot better than our AMS’s. One of my grips with Bambu Labs, is there Terms of Service, they pretty much spy on you. So if you print something illegal, it will be reported. As an example of somebody prints, a ghost gun not illegal yet, but I'm pretty sure that the bamboo labs will report it along with the nosy Chinese.
@@originaltrilogy1 - Creality has a USB-A port on the front of the printer, making it relatively easy to sneaker net the G code to the printer with a USB thumb drive. Bambu Lab forces you to poke a tiny micro SD card into the edge of the display which is an ergonomic nightmare. Bambu seems to punish users for not wanting to use their Chinese cloud server.
Really nice video, was looking forward to the k1 max until i heard creality locking it down and breaching license agreements with klipper and fluidd. Would be happy for the price if it was a little flawed and could upgrade it but as its locked down your at the mercy of creality to sort it. You now have bambu forcing you to agree that all of your printinf data and videos can be stored and shared to third parties and prusa xl being really expensive and running dated slow firmware. It seems the best and worst time for 3d printing. Bring on the diy builds
ok so you saw NBR and his FUD. Why dont you read the privacy policies of bambu, creality, prusa, ankermake, ultimaker cura, orca slicer, microsoft, apple, google, fb, yt and countless others. THEY ALL SAY THEY CAN SHARE DATA WITH 3RD PARTIES. I'm not kidding go check for yourself. It's a boilerplate policy. By law every company has to cover their butt and adhere to applicable laws and not gimp their company legally. Nate conveniently didnt cover the others because he thrives on reactionary BS. So go on a little trip and google each company & privacy policy and and search "third party". Spoilers they all have it.
@@petercallison5765 - I don't want the lidar (or the camera), so I plan of installing the full version of open source Klipper. Shame on Creality for violating open source licensing (evil) and for crippling Klipper (dumb).
Seriously, Creality needs some originality... It literally looks like they bought a Bambu, reverse engineered it and made a duplicate and now slightly enlarged it. Oh! I see it now... They moved the screen, LMAO.
Unfortunately, although these machines are what I'm after (including the Bambu) both have problems that mean I wouldn't touch them. They are either locked to cloud, restrictions caused by not being open source ie I think the creality firmware has been locked, or use proprietary components etc so upgrading /fixing becomes a problem. When a open-source one comes along with parts being available more commonly then I'll bite but until then I'll use my CR10s. Could definitely do with the speed increase but will just bide my time as none of these machines are perfect.
AFAIK there's a hack that lets you undo the firmware update that locked down the machine, which in turn lets you install Klipper/Mainsail proper, but yeah, it's annoying behavior at best, particularly as Creality Print and more importantly Creality Cloud are still... not what they should be. I expect Creality to eventually get their heads out of their arses on this (unlike Bambu), but still, I wouldn't touch any printer until it's guaranteed open. Not that it matters much for me, anyway, as I love tinkering, and thus a couple of Voron projects and other kits are still at the top of my list, but as a simple consumer product, the K1 Max looks close to perfect, and I'm really glad (at least for now) that Bambu shook up the market.
@@twincast2005 I think the announcement that bambu made a few weeks ago about a new machine coming out a lot of people were expecting a bigger machine. All it was in the end was an in-between machine, the same size but feature wise inbetween the 2 they have already. What a shame.. I think the firmware update makes the control panel useless and locking it down will reduce its sales and I wonder why they did it. Gone off Creality for the last couple of years now for various reasons. I've heard there are several machines coming out soon by other manufacturers that hopefully will fit the bill.
@@AndrewAHayes I think someone found another way, but for me I want to be printing and not messing about (those days are over for me) because a company want to be stupid. From what I've heard there are extrusion issues, buggy software, bad customer service, illegal use of open source material and overall not as good as the Bambu in build quality and print quality and no doubt ten other things.
Creality's quality lost me. I have S1 pros' and they gave me headaches and sleepless nights. I had to switch to Bambu Lab and now, I get a good night sleep.
I received mine this morning, they had a discount code which brought the price down to a little over 800.00. Within an hour of it arriving I was printing. I am working on a large print of about a half of spool. It will be finished by morning. about 12 hours. My old printer would take about 2-3 days.
I am here for the lidar and how it works! Can you cover that more?
Good for you!!!! I think your first one out! Great job!
I look forward to a follow-up when you have more experience with the K1 Max. I love the large build volume. I don't need or want the lidar or camera so hopefully Creality offers a cost reduced version without those features. I want the full open source Klipper. For all they got right with the K1 and K1 Max, Creality deserves a lot of scorn for ripping off Klipper, not providing attribution or the open source documents as required, and even worse, stripping it down to make it not only a proprietary version of open source software (which is evil) but also a crippled version (which is stupid).
Your comment aged like milk.
@@dangerous8333 - Which part?
Great vid. Mine has a sticker on the back showing to install the filament the other way around (turning counterclockwise)
hello, thank you for this video
What I really appreciated in this video.
To see your camera operator playing on his cell phone ;-)
Buying soon, does it always come with filament or was it a kit
Bambu Lab P1s is a bit cheaper but this has a bigger build plate and sooooooo much better screen.
Creality announced this going open source in September.
Never really cared for AMS on Bambu Lab printers. I might get this and just keep it for a very long time.
Lmao wtf
Super helpful. Thank you.
my k1 failed after 2 weeks and im 20 emails deep just trying to get a replacement nozzle. I want a max, but at what cost to productivity.
Creality machines never leave beta. You're right about the support as well.
Do you have and footage of the camera view? Does the footage get saved to a USB drive or internal storage. if it does internal how much storage does it have and how much can it hold? Is it time lapse only or can save full video?
If creality can make a decent printer this seems interesting but not having an AMS is a huge drawback once you know what it can do.
I'd have a use for an AMS if it fed TPU, which it doesn't, so the AMS is a needless expense, complexity and something to break as far as I'm concerned. I guess it's great if you like watching your printer poop expensive filament.
@@Liberty4Ever So let's go over what the AMS can do.
1. It can hold 4 KG worth of filament
2. It offers filament run out options. Not often talked about but a life and time saver in execution.
3. You do not have to touch a roll since it is all automated. That means no manually switching compatible filament, load and unload until it runs out.
4. *I rarely run multicolor prints* so I personally dont have as much filament waste. So the printer purging filament before a print is about 1-2 cents worth of filament. but it can be wasteful if you dont tune it/run tons of multicolor prints.
If you are smart about it you run multiple cloned prints, at a time, since the waste is the same for all models on the build plate.
5. The filament is in a dry box with desiccant and there is a humidity sensor.
6. I have been using mine for 11 months and still working strong.(but things break eventually)
So yeah you can run soft or abrasive filaments...sorta. There are some types you can run but it will wear it out faster since abrasives are...abrasive. There are some TPU filaments you can run in the AMS but I do not recommend it nor does Bambu.
So here are the little things it can do in combination. I can be out and about and start a print anywhere. I can have someone at the printer change the bed and I can continue printing remotely. So just the other day I had a client who wanted a new sample. I spun up a local pc on my network sliced and file and sent it to the printer. By the time I got back to the printer the part was ready. That may not be your ideal but darned if it wasn't convenient and efficient use of time.
Fortunately the AMS is optional if you like manually loading common filaments and a great addition if you dont.
The AMS is a huge differentiator between Bambu and the other brands. People who can only imagine it being used for multicolored print is missing out.
What's funny is I can use up a bunch of spools that would otherwise go to waste,
My ams has been reliable for thousands of filament changes. Once you know, you know
@@No0o0o0o0o0 - I've read many comments about how great the AMS is but many are general comments without specific examples. I don't find those convincing. Ashleys3dprintshop implied that the AMS can automatically switch between rolls of filament when one roll is expended. If so, that would be somewhat useful to me in some applications where switching filament wouldn't ruin the print, and it would be very nice not to waste the filament that isn't enough for an entire print. That would be valuable to me, particularly if the printer was smart enough to change filament during the infill where it wouldn't make a surface defect. Other than that. I've heard nothing that would make the AMS useful for me.
@@Liberty4Ever You need to have some forethought about how the AMS is used if you want it to do runout duty.
In the software, screen or phone app the filament has to be the same type and color.
Or told it is the same color and type
(it can be set manually) and it can run through the rolls saving a print or using up nearly spent rolls .
AMS also has nfc tag reader if you have bambu filament that sets everything automatically but I dont use that personally. I assume that would be good for newbs as it takes out the guess work for filament flowrates, temps speed etc.
It wouldn't cause surface defects though. Again I have done thousands of filament swaps with different colors but I warn against that in your case because it would be wasteful imho. You would be doing filament swaps every layer( surface filament 1 then infill filament 2l) which would be crazy wasteful and take forever for even small prints. You can tune it to be efficient though but some color swaps will always be wasteful. Think white filament to black. There needs to be a decent about of purging.
There is another "feature" it has. They call it a multi material system which is technically true but some filaments cannot bind/bond/stick to together. You can use that to your advantage. Use pla as supports for petg parts or vice versa. Soluble supports, breakaway supports etc and the that does not have to be wastefull if you know how to tweak it. Basically use the same filament 1(petg) supports for 99% of the print. Then use filament 2(pla) for 1 layer that interfaces to the part. Breaks up easy like me an my ex gf. lol.
I cant say you would find use for it, but for me its pretty neat.
Cracking open a cold one with the boys at 15:52
I received my K-Max two days ago. The top frame member / crown is not square. The diagonals measure 21-7/16" and 21-11/16". So it's a full .25 inches out of square. As a result, the glass lid does not seat properly on the frame. How can I fix this?????
Thank you for the great review, I am wondering if you could tell me the measurements of the glass lid, I want to create a new top for mine and have the design ready when it arrives, Thanks
I may have missed this point in your excellent description, so please bear with me. I am trying to plan a mounting location.
The 'Product Dimension' define the K1 Max 'WxHxD' footprint as 435 mmx 482mm x 526mm, but is that just the enclosure cube??
ie: Does the 'D' 526mm include the mounted Spool Holder depth, and any touch panel protrusion out the front?
The Spool holder seems to be an extra 100mm or so.
Thx for your help.
The handle for my printer csnt seem to connect properly
Its always moving and loose
Any ideas??
A close up of the finished product would be nice. How much?
There is packing tape on the chamber fan. It appears to be covering a seam. Remove it?
Note that they have changed the specification for bed heating, originally it was specified at a maximum of 120c, now it is only a maximum of 100c, a disappointment!
If you can answer my question? k1max or x1
Do you have to use glue
Does the pla have to be specific type for the K1 or can I use any old pla filament?
The K1 max doesn't look like it will disappoint
I got one it's the worst print I have ever bought.
@@dankilmer9070 You should get better skills then.
I have 18 printers, all types. K1 Max's are lemons
@@dangerous8333
n'achetez surtout pas chez creality , elle est a 899€ mais ils ajoutent 180 € de taxe !!!!!!! 969€ chez geekbuying
Does K1 MAX come with new improved extruder?
Can you test high temp surf like cf, pa nylon, abs
Is there no filament runout sensor?
I was looking at the K1 but so many people had problems with it. I went with the X1 Carbon and have been happy. Now that I own an X1C and seeing the K1 Max it's literaly a low quality copy of the X1. I couldn't believe how many things they copied including the software menu and shipment screw locations.
Some people consider the K1's steel guide rods and larger stepper motors to be better than the Bambu Lab printer design, and Bambu's near insistence on using their Chinese cloud is a complete non-starter for me.
I own 4 X1C’s. And have ordered a K1 Max. The K1/Max is 300mm x 300mm x 300mm. Whereas the Carbon is 256mm x 256mm x 256mm, you really do not get true 256. Carbon has the AMS. However I believe I can write a patch in kipper for the 3D chameleon system. 3-D chameleon system works perfect on the One carbon.
I'd like it a lot better than our AMS’s.
One of my grips with Bambu Labs, is there Terms of Service, they pretty much spy on you. So if you print something illegal, it will be reported. As an example of somebody prints, a ghost gun not illegal yet, but I'm pretty sure that the bamboo labs will report it along with the nosy Chinese.
@@AK.Navy.Veterani thought you could print off online though, thats a bummer
@@Liberty4Ever I don't use the cloud function for the printer, I come straight off the card for printing.
@@originaltrilogy1 - Creality has a USB-A port on the front of the printer, making it relatively easy to sneaker net the G code to the printer with a USB thumb drive. Bambu Lab forces you to poke a tiny micro SD card into the edge of the display which is an ergonomic nightmare. Bambu seems to punish users for not wanting to use their Chinese cloud server.
Its looks a very cool machine ...😊
the lettering, the stickers that spell out CREALITY on my unit just received are all crooked, and the A and I came off haha
How Fast !
What is your evaluation of K1 max?
trash
Really nice video, was looking forward to the k1 max until i heard creality locking it down and breaching license agreements with klipper and fluidd. Would be happy for the price if it was a little flawed and could upgrade it but as its locked down your at the mercy of creality to sort it. You now have bambu forcing you to agree that all of your printinf data and videos can be stored and shared to third parties and prusa xl being really expensive and running dated slow firmware. It seems the best and worst time for 3d printing. Bring on the diy builds
You can run stock Klipper on the K1 but that would probably not support the lidar.
ok so you saw NBR and his FUD. Why dont you read the privacy policies of bambu, creality, prusa, ankermake, ultimaker cura, orca slicer, microsoft, apple, google, fb, yt and countless others. THEY ALL SAY THEY CAN SHARE DATA WITH 3RD PARTIES. I'm not kidding go check for yourself. It's a boilerplate policy. By law every company has to cover their butt and adhere to applicable laws and not gimp their company legally.
Nate conveniently didnt cover the others because he thrives on reactionary BS.
So go on a little trip and google each company & privacy policy and and search "third party". Spoilers they all have it.
@@petercallison5765 - I don't want the lidar (or the camera), so I plan of installing the full version of open source Klipper. Shame on Creality for violating open source licensing (evil) and for crippling Klipper (dumb).
I think creality is doing a great job
Seriously, Creality needs some originality... It literally looks like they bought a Bambu, reverse engineered it and made a duplicate and now slightly enlarged it. Oh! I see it now... They moved the screen, LMAO.
Unfortunately, although these machines are what I'm after (including the Bambu) both have problems that mean I wouldn't touch them. They are either locked to cloud, restrictions caused by not being open source ie I think the creality firmware has been locked, or use proprietary components etc so upgrading /fixing becomes a problem. When a open-source one comes along with parts being available more commonly then I'll bite but until then I'll use my CR10s. Could definitely do with the speed increase but will just bide my time as none of these machines are perfect.
AFAIK there's a hack that lets you undo the firmware update that locked down the machine, which in turn lets you install Klipper/Mainsail proper, but yeah, it's annoying behavior at best, particularly as Creality Print and more importantly Creality Cloud are still... not what they should be. I expect Creality to eventually get their heads out of their arses on this (unlike Bambu), but still, I wouldn't touch any printer until it's guaranteed open. Not that it matters much for me, anyway, as I love tinkering, and thus a couple of Voron projects and other kits are still at the top of my list, but as a simple consumer product, the K1 Max looks close to perfect, and I'm really glad (at least for now) that Bambu shook up the market.
@@twincast2005 Creality have patched the OS so the hack is no longer viable.
Me too, I wouldnt touch this with a shitty stick.
@@twincast2005 I think the announcement that bambu made a few weeks ago about a new machine coming out a lot of people were expecting a bigger machine. All it was in the end was an in-between machine, the same size but feature wise inbetween the 2 they have already. What a shame..
I think the firmware update makes the control panel useless and locking it down will reduce its sales and I wonder why they did it. Gone off Creality for the last couple of years now for various reasons. I've heard there are several machines coming out soon by other manufacturers that hopefully will fit the bill.
@@AndrewAHayes I think someone found another way, but for me I want to be printing and not messing about (those days are over for me) because a company want to be stupid. From what I've heard there are extrusion issues, buggy software, bad customer service, illegal use of open source material and overall not as good as the Bambu in build quality and print quality and no doubt ten other things.
Jesus, stop touching it while its calibrating.
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There is no lidar on this and for that matter neither does the bamboo
Creality's quality lost me. I have S1 pros' and they gave me headaches and sleepless nights. I had to switch to Bambu Lab and now, I get a good night sleep.
RIP bambu spy machines and their fleet of hired paid pumpers lmao.
I got a K1 Max and... It's the worst! Do not buy. It's the end of Creality.
Wow you're really spamming the hate
The fucking door knob was sooo fucking annoying also I only got 3 rubber feet instead of 4....