@@jonsku6662 facts, Bruce Wayne has the dough to get a Psych degree; Sonic is woefully under-qualified to handle this situation. Shame there aren't any colleges that accept rings, we could always use more case workers.
Shadow's bullying sure traumatizes a lot of folks. It's pretty funny to think that all of Forces could have been avoided if Shadow hadn't beaten Infinite up.
so fucking much. It would have been easy to make Sonic stop talking when receiving the hit, and I actually thought he had done it, but when you rewatch and notice that part, I really love these videos.
"I have trauma." "Okay. Silver here? Literally comes from a wrecked future, where everyone he knows and loves is dead, because of a calamity YOU caused! And by the way, Shadow? He watched a girl who was basically his sister get gunned down by the military!"
I thought Sonic was gonna be like “Yeah, well Shadow framed me for crimes I didn’t commit and then tried to kill me, but you don’t see be going around killing people!” (referencing SA2)
It's funnier when you realize that Silver is genuinely telepathic so when he's on the floor he is just lying there in pain from how insane the situation is LOL
I mean Sonic said he's also a neurodivergent minor, and Infinite attacked him, so Infinite can't try to make Sonic look bad for attacking him without making himself look bad.
{@@felipecosta-kv2fxhis age was de-canonized i'm pretty sure, the only updated official source on it (japanese sonic website) delisted the character ages. but said source _always_ said he was 16, and even one of the oldest sources on his age, Sonic Jam, says he's 16. since his age was decanonized though, and considering how much his personality and appearance has evolved, and how many adventures he's gone through? not to mention he had a birthday in Sonic Generations and was _still_ canonically 16 afterward until that was delisted? i headcanon sonic as an adult, there's no way he's not by now. especially with how much tails appears to have been aged up, from a young child to literally looking indistinguishable in age from the rest of the cast (so like, at _least_ a teenager? which would go from 8 to 13, a five year change).}
Also ADHD is not mental illness! No neurodivergent condition is a mental illness. They are neurodevelopmental disorders that can cause mental health problems.
Yeah. And if you do have it, Adderall is also non-addictive. It just mitigates the dopamine deficiency, so we're able to form some fucking habits and execute plans without being distracted immediately by the first impulse we get.
@@MisterSpeedStacking No joke this is literally how I was diagnosed with ADHD. I went to the doctor and said I thought I had ADHD, they went 'take this adderall every day and report back in a week if you're fixed'
Adderall making people high doesn't suddenly invalidate their ADHD, all it says is that Adderall isn't a good prescription for them, each person responds to treatment differently.
Infinite grindset: -Gets beaten by Shadow once -Sells himself to Eggman -Gets most over the top pretentious name possible -Starts wearing Tokyo Ghoul cosplay -Gains power to do literally anything, uses it to throw red cubes at Sonic and some random kid -"I'm not weak!" -Dies
I'm sincerely impressed with Sonic Team's ability to make a villain that was _so_ pathetic he looped all the way around from forgettable back to unforgettable.
@@benjaminoechsli1941Tbh isn’t that the point in a way? He’s literally a loser given the ability to enable any of his delusions, and as such becomes this pretentious personality that’s so fake that losing the means to perpetuate his false strength destroys him alongside the unoriginal copies of other villains he rules over since by that point he was so lost in the delusion his original self was erased to support his god complex. His final mentions are in the facility that gets destroyed and offscreen as countless clones made by Eggman, his individuality well and truly stripped as he’s reduced to army fodder post mortem, proving that despite his insistence he was special and not weak, he was always the same generic grunt he was in the prologue. It’s like the perfect reflection of narcissists; the moment their source of validation is erased, you see how fake they are, alongside the image of themselves they try and force into the world. Forces’ writing may be god awful, but I honestly think Infinite’s character at the very least made sense.
@@benjaminoechsli1941infinites a ridiculous character propped up with an absolutely fire music theme. Honestly I think he could be great given some minor tweaks, sort of like an affectionate parody of edgy sonic OCs in the 2010s
I like how Infinite's personality feels like it's just him poorly copying Shadow's personality while exaggerating it in the same time. Similiar to the actual Infinite
Sonic: So like...did a doctor even diagnose you with neurodivergence or? Infinite: Of course rodent. Sonic: Okay, well at least you have a leg to stand on ther- hey wait a minute was the doctor that diagnosed you Eggman? Infinite: ...I will not confirm or deny such an assumption. Sonic: Dammit, he's not a real doctor! Infinite: Then how did he diagnose me with "eternal minor syndrome?" Sonic: That's not how minors or diagnoses work.
Sonic: "But Eggman's a doctor in robotics, not mental health!" Infinite: "Don't forget his doctorate in women's studies." Sonic: "Women's studies? But he has captured Amy a handful of times!" Infinite: "He also has mental illness." Sonic: "That's still not a viable shield from critisism!"
@@KingC89>sees there's something clearly wrong with them compared to others >uses certified tests that medical professionals use to figure out Random person that barely knows them: "yOu ArE fAkInG iT fOr AtTeNtIoN" Mw they want to have LESS attention but gain attention because of clearly not fucking passing as a normal person There's as much benefit to faking adhd as there to faking diabetes
@rossman8919 Not necessarily. Juggernaut has joined before, and his powers are magical in nature, not mutant. And Spider-Man was invited to join once, but he declined, although in his case, he is often mistaken for a mutant.
@@Pearl_Blossom I'm sure that Infinite's backstory is not supposed to be geniunly tragic, but rather to show how petty he is (His "tragedy" being defeated by Shadow and then throwing a temper tantrum about it)
@@jebkerman5422If your counterargument is that Doofenshmirtz is being given a free pass to do bad things because of his past, take this into account: Doofenshmirtz tells Perry what happened to cause any particular scheme he's in the middle of, and then Perry eventually destroys the machine/disrupts those plans. The issue is then put to rest, and Doofenshmirtz never attempts anything related to it again. Perry the Platypus is basically Doofenshmirtz's therapist... that _also_ repeatedly causes property damage and physically fights his patient.
As an autistic man myself, people who shield themselves with it to excuse their actions is gross, especially if it's something not even related to autism. I don't get social cues sometimes cause of it and just the other day I mentioned the naming bit about Sonic X Shadow Generations when I shouldn't have, but I make sure to not repeat my mistakes and own up to them.
@@callmevbuck4054 It's crazy how different things make me go "wow, it's only been [X] years?" and others make me go "wow, it's already been [X] years?" That... that's the latter. 👴
@@iananderson4754 No, they allow other mentally ill people to harass me without any resistance. The answer is always that "they can't control themselves", but that excuse can only get you so far.
30 year old with diagnosed ADD and Autism for about...20 years? Ballpark, anyways. Agreed. It's stupid. These self diagnosing morons make any stigma against mental illnesses worse.
@@nocturnalsunlight3639 it being fake or not isn't whats important, the main issue either way is it being used as an attempted get-out-of-jail-free card.
Phew Glad you were here Because none of us could have enjoyed it without your approval Good thing you just had to tell everyone on the Internet first. Lucky us
@@TheKpa11I think it would work to make them incredibly unlikable, and that's a good thing for villains cause it makes you want them to fail. Make that one of the villain's manipulation tactics, and just one of the moving parts rather than the whole character, and you might get a good villain.
@@simonweaver8846 Too easy I’d say, just feels like a villain of the week at that point. Especially for Sonic But when you fail at writing a more in depth villain constantly, succeeding in simplicity feels refreshing Much like when a new Sonic content drops and if it’s “good” it’ll 180 perceptions from the masses
The Dark Knight came close to doing something like that with Joker. Not blatantly fake stories, but he kept contradicting himself whenever he would tell stories about his facial scars, signalling to the audience that his word could not be trusted at all.
Shadow: has trauma brought on by witnessing the death of the one person closest to his heart. Infinite: has trauma brought on a swift beatdown by Shadow. Shadow: He thought he could take me out as the "Ultimate Mercenary"... Infinite: You destroyed my squad! Shadow: You worked for the Doctor. Infinite: Didn't you?! Shadow: I was misguided before. Now I know my real purpose: to protect this planet Maria loved unconditionally. Infinite: Maria? Who's that? *Shadow's fist clenches* Infinite: ...no, seriously? Who's Maria?
I used to know someone in a Discord group who would blame all his wrongdoing on the "autism he got from video games". Literally, that's what he said at least twice. 1. that was untrue and probably ableist, 2. I and another friend in the Discord actually do have autism, and we've never done anything close to what he was doing, and never would've just because we're neurodivergent. People who are genuinely like this are sickening.
I dunno, being bullied by literally anyone else in Sonic universe would be a more traumatic experience than being bullied by Shadow. The guy is professional and honestly a giant softie under all that exterior, if he says that you're bad, he isn't bullying, he is stating a fact. Imagine being bullied by Amy on the other hand 💀
@@АлексейЮрловский Ah, but that’s the thing about trauma isn’t it? The mind may forget but the body remembers? Maybe he can still be trigger by things without understanding why or how, it just is.
Okay, to be fair, Infinite never said he had ADHD, he just used it as an example of a mental illness. He claimed he had “mental illness” but didn’t define what illness he actually had
I'm pretty sure that if the franchise was aimed at adults, Shadow would've been already diagnosed with SzPD and in therapy. I'm saying this as someone with SzPD myself and getting treatment. We're not the easiest to deal with, but we're actually chill.
God, twitter brainrot has gotten to me so much that I started thinking of what he'd say ahead of time. I expected terms like "minor-coded" or "child-passing." to come up.
- Eggman, wife incident and other major mischief - Da Devil From Da Bibble, gaslighting and trying to overtake Hell - Memphis Tennessee, dating gone wrong
Thing is if you think about it, sonic is literally one of the most traumatize characters in the franchise. He's been through a thousand near-death experiences, he's been tortured by Eggman multiple times, and also the metal virus arc in the comics was horrific, in which he couldn't sleep for probably weeks due to having to run off his infection _and_ while blaming himself for not being able to save everyone. Mind you the metal virus happens right during their recovery in the aftermath of the Forces war, _in which Sonic was kept prisoner and probably tortured for six months_ So yeah. If anyone has a green card for snapping, it's Sonic.
God, this is early 2000s all over again. Everyone online had just discovered Asperger's, and wielded it as a bludgeon. Suddenly, every asshole was an Asspie, and calling them on their bullshit was somehow bullying. I figured out that I was on the spectrum, undiagnosed, when I was in my late twenties. The worst I do with my mild autism is bore my GF with lectures on whatever subject I am obsessed with that day, and lowkey wish for destruction when my carefully crafted schedule and environment is disrupted. I have an incredibly broken sense of giving an eff about people's personal problems, though, and keep mine to myself. Now that I'm actually posting it, that all sounds worse than I thought it would.
Sonic: Most people who get bullied don't end up killing people Infinite: Some of them do... Like me. (I thought Infinite's ability in this skit was going to be cancel culture getting to Sonic or gaslighting becoming reality, lol)
Honestly as someone with legitimate mental illness that makes it difficult to live a normal life one of my biggest pet peeves is when people use mental illness as an excuse to be an asshole, I have mental illness and I’m an asshole but those two things are unrelated
The identity fad that is going on is really getting out of hand. I get this is satire, but even still. It seems as though some people think that posting an autobiography makes detestable actions and being a bad person suddenly okay. You can identify as whatever you want. Be a tomato for all I care (please don't allow people to legally identify as tomatoes on government IDs), but scapegoating trauma and mental illness to avoid accountability needs to stop. Also, treating our young adults and adolescents as little children is definitely not helping. We keep moving the goalpost on the age of adulthood. 18, then 21, then 25... What, are we going to have to be 30 to start being responsible for ourselves? I'm sick of the infantilization of our young adults and adolescents. They don't need coddling, they need mature advice and to be allowed to handle their own affairs instead of being perpetually dependent and irresponsible while being fed the narrative that they're just too young to do anything. Most of the soldiers on the beaches of Normandy during D-Day were 18-35 years old with the average age being 26. Minors have been known to lie about their age to go to war back then. Think about that.
"I'm a 23 year old minor/threat" is my new favourite Jehtt quote
same, im gonna be using that from now on
same, im gonna be using that from now on
same, im gonna be using that from now on
same, im gonna be using that from now on
same, im gonna be using that from now on
"You would attack a neurodivergent minor?"
Considering he almost decked Sage in the face, yes. Yes, he would
That wasn't canon, though. He never tried to hurt her in-game.
That wasn't canon, though. He never tried to hurt her in-game.
@@Sonikku_Za_Hejjihoggu_1991🤓
@@Sonikku_Za_Hejjihoggu_1991Idw is canon
@@vazazell5967idw?
"You killed a bunch of people"
"I'm literally neurodivergent and a minor?"
I feel like I've seen this exact conversation on twitter before
Man the question mark on an affirmation is so annoying it makes my blood boil
@@gammaf1365 I feel you man
Liar, no you didn't.
It sounds like it.
i thought that was the joke of this video
“You sold crack to a pregnant woman cause your mom was mean to you ?!?!!”
Class of 09
@@Edgeworth992 yep
Ah my fellow people of culture
Keffals moment.
@@Edgeworth992the reup?
"THE JOKER NUKED METROPOLIS!!!!! WHAT A MONSTER!!" "What is wrong with you he has mental illness"
And that's why Infinite should be Batman's problem, not Sonic's
He specializes in the criminally insane
@@jonsku6662 facts, Bruce Wayne has the dough to get a Psych degree; Sonic is woefully under-qualified to handle this situation. Shame there aren't any colleges that accept rings, we could always use more case workers.
@@jonsku6662 We wouldn't categorize that as like a targeted prejudice right?
@@mixiekins
Are you kidding me? Batman/Bruce sucks at psych help. Have you seen his universe and gallery.
The way that's literally just tik tok though
Shadow's bullying sure traumatizes a lot of folks.
It's pretty funny to think that all of Forces could have been avoided if Shadow hadn't beaten Infinite up.
So true
Literally got mad over Shadow beating him lmao
So true
poor tails..
As he should that's my son.
"Which means you were lying about _hAvInG iIiIt!!!!!_ The sheer quality on the delivery of that line is just....👌
so fucking much.
It would have been easy to make Sonic stop talking when receiving the hit, and I actually thought he had done it, but when you rewatch and notice that part, I really love these videos.
Infinite did say he had something like ADHD so he wasn't really lying about it.
I keep repeating that part because it's so good, lol
Sonic can spot fakers so easily, makes ya think huh 🤔
Sonic has ADHD so he knows what adderall does
Little did he know, Infinite was a Scorpio, so he’s in the clear.
Worked for me, and I'm autistic.👍😶
ADHD Scorpio right here!!!
👇
as an adhd scorpio... I do not claim infinite, lmao.
Worst comment I’ve seen in a while. Take your astrology garbage elsewhere
I'm a depressed Scorpio with PTSD so works for me too
"you cant just use trauma to shield yourself from criticism"
"Yes i can"
The entirety of TikTok right there.
people on twitter be like:
Gen Z in a nutshell
@@lyrixFH not all of us are like that I assure you I'm a 23 year Gen Z and I'm not entitled
@@Spider-Fan006 I'm Gen Z myself, I was exaggerating to be honest
"I have trauma."
"Okay. Silver here? Literally comes from a wrecked future, where everyone he knows and loves is dead, because of a calamity YOU caused! And by the way, Shadow? He watched a girl who was basically his sister get gunned down by the military!"
To be fair shadow tried to destroy the world in SA2 because of his trauma. And silver didn't have a reason to destroy the world.
@@iananderson4754 Maybe not but he DID try to murder Sonic who was innocent of causing the apocalypse but Silver was misled into believing he was.
@@iananderson4754 Wasn't Shadow brainwashed into thinking Maria's last will was to destroy humanity or something ?
@@slavishentity6705 yes
But then Infinite will reply with: “You can’t compare trauma.”
(Which is true, but in this case it is just straight up irrelevant)
Infinite is like 13 yo "EDGY" teenager
*23 yo “EDGY” teenager
*23 yo “EDGY” teenager
Not even one n bomb. No way he's edgy
@@e69alphaone napalm bomb from mega man 5?
So what, he eats unhappy meals now ?
"Shadow bullies me every day and I'm fine"
"You are?"
"Okay maybe I'm not fine, but I don't kill people for fun."
Probably my new favorite line.
@@vullord666 did bro forget to swap accounts
I thought Sonic was gonna be like “Yeah, well Shadow framed me for crimes I didn’t commit and then tried to kill me, but you don’t see be going around killing people!” (referencing SA2)
I like Silver genuinely surprised at that
It's funnier when you realize that Silver is genuinely telepathic so when he's on the floor he is just lying there in pain from how insane the situation is LOL
I mean Sonic said he's also a neurodivergent minor, and Infinite attacked him, so Infinite can't try to make Sonic look bad for attacking him without making himself look bad.
Wasn't sonic like 15 in the first games and the movies? He might be 16 now, but that's still a minor
@@felipecosta-kv2fx My point exactly
I forget the simple fact of it's ok when I do it but it's wrong when people do it to me
{@@felipecosta-kv2fxhis age was de-canonized i'm pretty sure, the only updated official source on it (japanese sonic website) delisted the character ages. but said source _always_ said he was 16, and even one of the oldest sources on his age, Sonic Jam, says he's 16.
since his age was decanonized though, and considering how much his personality and appearance has evolved, and how many adventures he's gone through? not to mention he had a birthday in Sonic Generations and was _still_ canonically 16 afterward until that was delisted? i headcanon sonic as an adult, there's no way he's not by now. especially with how much tails appears to have been aged up, from a young child to literally looking indistinguishable in age from the rest of the cast (so like, at _least_ a teenager? which would go from 8 to 13, a five year change).}
That's crazy bro
"Adderall only does that if you *don't* have ADHD!" GOT ME LMAO, the amount of times I've tried to explain this to people
Also ADHD is not mental illness! No neurodivergent condition is a mental illness. They are neurodevelopmental disorders that can cause mental health problems.
Yeah. And if you do have it, Adderall is also non-addictive. It just mitigates the dopamine deficiency, so we're able to form some fucking habits and execute plans without being distracted immediately by the first impulse we get.
So you can accurately diagnose ADHD by giving someone adderall and observing if he suddenly becomes a superman or not?
@@MisterSpeedStacking No joke this is literally how I was diagnosed with ADHD. I went to the doctor and said I thought I had ADHD, they went 'take this adderall every day and report back in a week if you're fixed'
Adderall making people high doesn't suddenly invalidate their ADHD, all it says is that Adderall isn't a good prescription for them, each person responds to treatment differently.
Infinite grindset:
-Gets beaten by Shadow once
-Sells himself to Eggman
-Gets most over the top pretentious name possible
-Starts wearing Tokyo Ghoul cosplay
-Gains power to do literally anything, uses it to throw red cubes at Sonic and some random kid
-"I'm not weak!"
-Dies
I'm sincerely impressed with Sonic Team's ability to make a villain that was _so_ pathetic he looped all the way around from forgettable back to unforgettable.
Infinite had so much potential...
@@benjaminoechsli1941Tbh isn’t that the point in a way? He’s literally a loser given the ability to enable any of his delusions, and as such becomes this pretentious personality that’s so fake that losing the means to perpetuate his false strength destroys him alongside the unoriginal copies of other villains he rules over since by that point he was so lost in the delusion his original self was erased to support his god complex. His final mentions are in the facility that gets destroyed and offscreen as countless clones made by Eggman, his individuality well and truly stripped as he’s reduced to army fodder post mortem, proving that despite his insistence he was special and not weak, he was always the same generic grunt he was in the prologue. It’s like the perfect reflection of narcissists; the moment their source of validation is erased, you see how fake they are, alongside the image of themselves they try and force into the world.
Forces’ writing may be god awful, but I honestly think Infinite’s character at the very least made sense.
Best villain ever. Period
@@benjaminoechsli1941infinites a ridiculous character propped up with an absolutely fire music theme.
Honestly I think he could be great given some minor tweaks, sort of like an affectionate parody of edgy sonic OCs in the 2010s
Sonic: "Hey, I hear you. Counterpoint; You're a terrorist."
Infinite’s rebuttal: An FF7 Remake terrorist
"Oh, so all of a sudden that justifies you cheating?"
@@Gametoon05”In every conceivable way”
@@Gametoon05 "In every conceivable way." * Punches his mask off *
"cool reason, still a crime" - Sonic, probably
Shadow definitely bullied Infinite for buying twitter blue.
Black doom bought twitter blue
Well... Seems like a good reason to me.
The jury still out on Sonic's case, though...
@@miguelcapetillo7160Shadow The Hedgehog bullied sonic for having he/him in his bio and being a speedrunner
I will now go overdose on Adderall to get superpowers
Thanks Jehtt!
I can't be held responsible for this, I have mental illness.
@@TurboJehttyou cant just use trauma or mental illness to shield yourself from justice!
@@ExplodingSteveYes he can.
@@The_Ultimate_Agentnot if I have anything to say about it! 😈
@@negligible_reality You would attack a neurodivergent minor?
Sonic is just mad he ain’t come up with this strat everytime Shadow bullied him
To be fair, this would only make Shadow bully him even more
@@KoalaTContentNah, Shadow has a soft spot for those with trauma. Just ask Maria!
I don't think Shadow would care.
@@HOTD108_ 😂😂🤣🤣
Villains when they purposely spread misinformation on the internet to fuel their evil schemes:
Imagine Joker or Lex Luthor doing that.
@@MegaMario9001 ... Was that a parody game, or did the writers expect the players to take that conflict seriously?
What game was that?
@@MegaMario9001 what game was it
0:59 literally twitter
Somehow better characterized than the actual Infinite.
This guy feels like he’s be a Smiling Friends Villian and I’m all for it
Literally the Frowning Friends used a similiar excuse XD
"Bro is that blackface?" - different smiling friends villain, my bad
If Only Infinite would borrow the characteristics of Muzan's disability for being stillborn child and using it for cover his jerkassery
I like how Infinite's personality feels like it's just him poorly copying Shadow's personality while exaggerating it in the same time. Similiar to the actual Infinite
"Very well then, ableist"
I gotta use that sometime
"I"ve finally found it... the ableist trigger!"
@@protocetid Twitter users when someone uses the word "steps" in solving an issue:
“ableist? you’re comparing yourself to me? hah you’re not even good enough to call me an ableist!”
@@ExplodingSteve i'll make you able those words
@@protocetidI have one of those on my gun
I like how the only things he didn't lie about, were that he was bullied by shadow and because of that he got trauma.
I think infinite misunderstood Sonic and thought he was saying “miner” in which that’s probably his side job
I was gonna joke that too……..now I have mental trauma 🫥
@@TheKpa11are you going to use that trauma to start killing people?
Cobalt poisoning 🤒
That's where he got his fancy ruby (not really, but for the premise of a gag video, sure).
Rock and Stone!
0:35 the sass in this sentence matched the animation perfectly 😂
Sonic: So like...did a doctor even diagnose you with neurodivergence or?
Infinite: Of course rodent.
Sonic: Okay, well at least you have a leg to stand on ther- hey wait a minute was the doctor that diagnosed you Eggman?
Infinite: ...I will not confirm or deny such an assumption.
Sonic: Dammit, he's not a real doctor!
Infinite: Then how did he diagnose me with "eternal minor syndrome?"
Sonic: That's not how minors or diagnoses work.
Sonic: "But Eggman's a doctor in robotics, not mental health!"
Infinite: "Don't forget his doctorate in women's studies."
Sonic: "Women's studies? But he has captured Amy a handful of times!"
Infinite: "He also has mental illness."
Sonic: "That's still not a viable shield from critisism!"
Knuckles: And people call me an idiot.
Eggman still grabbed a doctor's license after his failed attempt at taking over the healthcare system
Boo. Unfunny.
@@Narutass43 doctor's diagnosis' aren't a laughing matter
I can't believe Sonic The Hedgehog was about to attack that neurodivergent minor
He gets a pass, he's the same way
not just a neurodivergent minor, a 23 year old neurodivergent minor.
I can't believe Infinite The Masked Clown DID attack that neurodivergent minor
@@firepuppies4086 but infinite is MORE
it's in the name, infinite traumatized
As an apparent neurodivergent minor himself 😭
that one kid in the school who fakes every illness and disorder in existence:
That one person that has self-diagnosed autism and treats it like their only personality trait
It's not just girls
Self diagnosing is my favorite gen z trend next to pretending to remember things that happened before they were born/old enough to remember
@@kei.13 that one person w/ self diagnosed ASD that mock ppl who actually have it for their poor masking lol
@@KingC89>sees there's something clearly wrong with them compared to others
>uses certified tests that medical professionals use to figure out
Random person that barely knows them: "yOu ArE fAkInG iT fOr AtTeNtIoN"
Mw they want to have LESS attention but gain attention because of clearly not fucking passing as a normal person
There's as much benefit to faking adhd as there to faking diabetes
This is how you know Infinite is a villain. Sonic is literally a 16 y/o boy with ADHD, and he attacked him
Hey, kids! Did you hear what Sonic said? If you don't have ADHD, Adderall gives you superpowers!
Me on my way to overdose on Adderall to get powers so I can join the X-Men 🗿✨
@@negligible_reality dont you have to be a mutant to be on the x men?
@rossman8919 Not necessarily. Juggernaut has joined before, and his powers are magical in nature, not mutant. And Spider-Man was invited to join once, but he declined, although in his case, he is often mistaken for a mutant.
haste potion
@@hpos1086 juggernaut is professor Xs brother , he got in through nepotism
This is how people justify so many villains
Just because you have past trauma doesn’t give you a free pass to do terrible things
This literally is how Sega justified Infinite, the part about Shadow bullying him is canon
Doesn’t work in the real world, see who is committing the current genocide.
@@Pearl_Blossom I'm sure that Infinite's backstory is not supposed to be geniunly tragic, but rather to show how petty he is (His "tragedy" being defeated by Shadow and then throwing a temper tantrum about it)
Ok I hear you...
Counterargument:
Heinz Doofenshmirtz
@@jebkerman5422If your counterargument is that Doofenshmirtz is being given a free pass to do bad things because of his past, take this into account:
Doofenshmirtz tells Perry what happened to cause any particular scheme he's in the middle of, and then Perry eventually destroys the machine/disrupts those plans. The issue is then put to rest, and Doofenshmirtz never attempts anything related to it again.
Perry the Platypus is basically Doofenshmirtz's therapist... that _also_ repeatedly causes property damage and physically fights his patient.
As an autistic man myself, people who shield themselves with it to excuse their actions is gross, especially if it's something not even related to autism. I don't get social cues sometimes cause of it and just the other day I mentioned the naming bit about Sonic X Shadow Generations when I shouldn't have, but I make sure to not repeat my mistakes and own up to them.
Also autistic, I second this sentiment.
Fans on Twitter: LEAVE MY BOY ALONE! He has done nothing wrong and was very justified.
The boy and his reasons:
Sonic explaining Aderall's effects while floating and getting hit is so perfectly hilariously timed
Half of Jehtt's videos are literally just "Sonic but Twitter" and they are always funny.
2017: OMG he just like me fr fr
2024: OMG he just like me fr fr
Nuh uh Forces wasn't seven f***ing years ago NUH UH
@@DarthMolgy yep, it will be 7 this November.
@@callmevbuck4054 It's crazy how different things make me go "wow, it's only been [X] years?" and others make me go "wow, it's already been [X] years?"
That... that's the latter. 👴
1:21 I love this
Me too. It's so cool
1:20
No, no, he's a 23 year old, neurodivergent minor, Sonic! You can't hurt him! Don't be an ableist!
“Okay me too” is funny because its implying that sonic’s neurodivergent too
When ADHD hedgehog faces fake ADHD jackal.
Oh there's no way Sonic of all people isn't somewhere on the spectrum.
According to Jehtt Lore, Sonic has OCD
If ASD has yuppie/TBH/whatever you call it as a mascot, then Sonic is defo an ADHD mascot.
He's not, stop coping.
0:49 I love how Sonic doesn't mention how he was imprisoned and tortured for a year, that's how little it mattered in the actual game
Because he was never tortured in the original Japanese script. They legit tried to make it- OW THE EDGE- in the EN script and it's hilarious.
Why would it matter?
@@MegaManJakeI’m so glad I never bought Sonic Forces.
@@MegaManJakewait what happens in the Japanese plot then?
@@thedome87 He was just straight up imprisoned. That's it.
Props to whoever voiced their mental illness. It must have been very hard to find someone good enough to voice it.
"i'm literally neurodivergent and a minor"
"me too"
sonic has adhd wbk
I'm a 21-year old who's diagnosed with both ADHD and Autism, and I can say that even I have been a victim of “mental-illness shielding” by others.
Wait people claiming you were lying or seeing somebody do what infinite was doing?
@@iananderson4754 No, they allow other mentally ill people to harass me without any resistance.
The answer is always that "they can't control themselves", but that excuse can only get you so far.
30 year old with diagnosed ADD and Autism for about...20 years? Ballpark, anyways.
Agreed. It's stupid. These self diagnosing morons make any stigma against mental illnesses worse.
Like, people threw fake ADHD at you as a justification of their shitty behaviour?
@@nocturnalsunlight3639 it being fake or not isn't whats important, the main issue either way is it being used as an attempted get-out-of-jail-free card.
I HAVE MENTAL ILLNESS
Here 💊
@@TheKpa11 i cant take that, im a 23 year old minor
I'M NOT WEAK!
What?
SAME
"Shadow bullies me everyday and I'm fine!"
"are you?"
I felt that.
Shadow also bullies me.
As an actually Autistic person watching people online use it as a personality quirk, this video amuses me.
Those individuals will remain single for the rest of their lives with that "quirk"
Phew
Glad you were here
Because none of us could have enjoyed it without your approval
Good thing you just had to tell everyone on the Internet first. Lucky us
@@lukemorgan6166oh shut up
@@lukemorgan6166 Man, don't be an ass.
@@lukemorgan6166 I can sense the sarcasm a mile away.
Still waiting for "Eggman takes over the US education system"
For those who haven't played Sonic Forces, this is essentially what happened.
Sonic this is why having a vent channel in your discord server is a TERRIBLE IDEA
Whenever people say Batman's in the wrong for fighting the Joker, this is probably the thing that will play in my head
Average Discord conversation in the Sonic fandom.
"Adderoll doesn't have ADHD, which means you're lying about ha-"
'23 year old minor kicks Sonic from the abyss'
made me laugh so hard 💀
Real talk, I would love for a villain to make up blatantly fake sad backstories to justify every evil thing they do
Sure why not. Makes it easier to write…….id give it a C
@@TheKpa11I think it would work to make them incredibly unlikable, and that's a good thing for villains cause it makes you want them to fail. Make that one of the villain's manipulation tactics, and just one of the moving parts rather than the whole character, and you might get a good villain.
@@simonweaver8846
Too easy I’d say, just feels like a villain of the week at that point. Especially for Sonic
But when you fail at writing a more in depth villain constantly, succeeding in simplicity feels refreshing
Much like when a new Sonic content drops and if it’s “good” it’ll 180 perceptions from the masses
It would be great if they were all as ridiculous as Doofenschmirtz.
The Dark Knight came close to doing something like that with Joker. Not blatantly fake stories, but he kept contradicting himself whenever he would tell stories about his facial scars, signalling to the audience that his word could not be trusted at all.
Shadow: has trauma brought on by witnessing the death of the one person closest to his heart.
Infinite: has trauma brought on a swift beatdown by Shadow.
Shadow: He thought he could take me out as the "Ultimate Mercenary"...
Infinite: You destroyed my squad!
Shadow: You worked for the Doctor.
Infinite: Didn't you?!
Shadow: I was misguided before. Now I know my real purpose: to protect this planet Maria loved unconditionally.
Infinite: Maria? Who's that?
*Shadow's fist clenches*
Infinite: ...no, seriously? Who's Maria?
I don't know why but this sounds completely in Character for Infinite 😂
Because it basically is 🤣
it’s literally his character 😭
@@nelululuculu Fair enough
Not really he never trys to justify his actions or garner pity.
@@johnman8398 I know, I'm joking.
Props to whoever voice acted infinites mental illness. Must’ve been real hard to find someone to voice it.
I used to know someone in a Discord group who would blame all his wrongdoing on the "autism he got from video games". Literally, that's what he said at least twice. 1. that was untrue and probably ableist, 2. I and another friend in the Discord actually do have autism, and we've never done anything close to what he was doing, and never would've just because we're neurodivergent. People who are genuinely like this are sickening.
“I AM NOT MENTAL! AAAARRRGGHHH!”
-Infinite
"I'm a 23 year old minor." And with that, this became my new favorite jehtt video 😂
this is basically just like arguing with someone and they pull up the "uhh... i have adhd!!" card
*My undiagnosed ADHD has **_nothing to do_** with the fact that I would want to punch something right now.*
I’m glad Silver wasn’t left out completely from this exchange.
I love that you perfectly recreate the games' actual subtitles fonts every time.
To be fair, I’d be traumatized too if Shadow bullied me constantly
Yeah but Shadow bullied him only once and with the most bare bone insult possible, so I don't think Infinite has a leg to stand on.
@@youpickwario1992 I can't believe you would say that about a 23 neurodivergent minor (Joking)
I dunno, being bullied by literally anyone else in Sonic universe would be a more traumatic experience than being bullied by Shadow. The guy is professional and honestly a giant softie under all that exterior, if he says that you're bad, he isn't bullying, he is stating a fact.
Imagine being bullied by Amy on the other hand 💀
@@youpickwario1992You’re forgetting he did this after killing his squad
Shadow: Well maybe if you acted more like Maria, I would like you more
"okay, me too!" from sonic is so real
If Sonic would just have known that ADHD is not a mental illness :/
This feels like it's related to "You're kind of a jerk, Sonic"
From the sonic riders dub?
"Yeah, from Sonic."
Literally every Gen Z kid and a good chunk of Millennials are unironically like this
If you're bullied by Shadow the damn Hedgehog you should be lucky you're still alive😂
"I'm a minor. Minor character"
"Shadow attacks me every day and I'm fine."
"You ARE??"
When he said Ableist, I was expecting an Iblis trigger joke, like Silver was already there
To be fair, 06 redconned itself out of existence, so I dont think Silver even remembers what Iblis was
@@АлексейЮрловский fair, altough I still believe in the joke potential
@@АлексейЮрловский Ah, but that’s the thing about trauma isn’t it? The mind may forget but the body remembers?
Maybe he can still be trigger by things without understanding why or how, it just is.
"Very well then, ableist" did not need to sound that cold.
Okay, to be fair, Infinite never said he had ADHD, he just used it as an example of a mental illness. He claimed he had “mental illness” but didn’t define what illness he actually had
uh what the sigma?
@noahbanana7526 That was so funny. I'm laughing so hard I'm crying, very funny, laughed a lot
That... doesnt really make it better?
And ADHD is not mental illness, it’s a neurodevelopmental disorder.
@@elpatoempatado2404...did it need to?
Shadow just bullies everyone and it’s because he needs therapy himself is now a head cannon…
I'm pretty sure that if the franchise was aimed at adults, Shadow would've been already diagnosed with SzPD and in therapy. I'm saying this as someone with SzPD myself and getting treatment. We're not the easiest to deal with, but we're actually chill.
God, twitter brainrot has gotten to me so much that I started thinking of what he'd say ahead of time.
I expected terms like "minor-coded" or "child-passing." to come up.
"MAP"
@@bananashoplifter3440Yeah, I’d recommend touching grass more, and Twitter less. Dreadful effects on human co-op.
@@ViltrumiteIsRite99 Agreed, people who use those terms need to touch grass so hard they can taste it
_probably be investigated too honestly_
0:58 All of Gen Z disagrees with that
Generism
What?
No?
Hey dont lump me in with them
Shadow: “you’re a beta male too, infinite”
Infinite got that Phantom Ruby from Twitter 💀
Love this Chanel so much
On god I could literally watch his videos for hours.
That brand is an aquired taste, but okay.
... damn it, the pun-
Sonic: "I have never killed anyone"
I'm sure he ended up killing a bunch of people while running away from the military in SA2.
Hey, you try running from the police without committing any crimes!
@@KelKilimanjaro Okay. But...manslaughter?
Look if those cars didn't wanna be flipped over, they shouldn't have made them out of paper mache and aluminum foil
@@KelKilimanjaro It's legal in Germany. You can even legally run away from prison if you don't commit any crimes on the way!
As an autistic person I find this hilarious
Didn't Shadow like- also killed Infinite's entire squad?!
That’s what I’m saying-
The amount of people that do this is very concerning:(
Average twitter users
NOT ALL MENTAL ILL PEOPLE USE TWITTER!!!!!
I mean if it’s Snapcube Shadow, he might have a point. Dude is 3 for 3 on causing villains to break down from his bullying
- Eggman, wife incident and other major mischief
- Da Devil From Da Bibble, gaslighting and trying to overtake Hell
- Memphis Tennessee, dating gone wrong
This is just a joke skit, but some people actually act like this and it's so infuriating.
Sonic: "Shadow bullies me every day, and I'm fine!"
Sliver: "You are?"
Sonic: "Ok, maybe I'm not fine."
Thing is if you think about it, sonic is literally one of the most traumatize characters in the franchise. He's been through a thousand near-death experiences, he's been tortured by Eggman multiple times, and also the metal virus arc in the comics was horrific, in which he couldn't sleep for probably weeks due to having to run off his infection _and_ while blaming himself for not being able to save everyone. Mind you the metal virus happens right during their recovery in the aftermath of the Forces war, _in which Sonic was kept prisoner and probably tortured for six months_
So yeah. If anyone has a green card for snapping, it's Sonic.
I find it funny that Sonic had all of that going on but he keeps on running and smiling with his good attitude, what a legend
“I’m a 23year old minor.”TikTok mindset right there
God, this is early 2000s all over again. Everyone online had just discovered Asperger's, and wielded it as a bludgeon. Suddenly, every asshole was an Asspie, and calling them on their bullshit was somehow bullying. I figured out that I was on the spectrum, undiagnosed, when I was in my late twenties. The worst I do with my mild autism is bore my GF with lectures on whatever subject I am obsessed with that day, and lowkey wish for destruction when my carefully crafted schedule and environment is disrupted. I have an incredibly broken sense of giving an eff about people's personal problems, though, and keep mine to myself. Now that I'm actually posting it, that all sounds worse than I thought it would.
Sonic: Most people who get bullied don't end up killing people
Infinite: Some of them do... Like me.
(I thought Infinite's ability in this skit was going to be cancel culture getting to Sonic or gaslighting becoming reality, lol)
Honestly as someone with legitimate mental illness that makes it difficult to live a normal life one of my biggest pet peeves is when people use mental illness as an excuse to be an asshole, I have mental illness and I’m an asshole but those two things are unrelated
I'm on the spectrum sonic I am Untouchable
Sonic didn't even ask him for his pronouns. Problematic and canceled.
The identity fad that is going on is really getting out of hand. I get this is satire, but even still. It seems as though some people think that posting an autobiography makes detestable actions and being a bad person suddenly okay. You can identify as whatever you want. Be a tomato for all I care (please don't allow people to legally identify as tomatoes on government IDs), but scapegoating trauma and mental illness to avoid accountability needs to stop.
Also, treating our young adults and adolescents as little children is definitely not helping. We keep moving the goalpost on the age of adulthood. 18, then 21, then 25... What, are we going to have to be 30 to start being responsible for ourselves? I'm sick of the infantilization of our young adults and adolescents. They don't need coddling, they need mature advice and to be allowed to handle their own affairs instead of being perpetually dependent and irresponsible while being fed the narrative that they're just too young to do anything. Most of the soldiers on the beaches of Normandy during D-Day were 18-35 years old with the average age being 26. Minors have been known to lie about their age to go to war back then. Think about that.
Sonic Forces would have been good if it was just a game adaptation of SATAM as a little backstory for Modern Sonic.
There are MANY ways Sonic Forces would have been good; But we can't change the past we have to move forwards
@@tylerdw100Unless if you do a remake but no, it’s too late for forces (unless a remaster probably?) sonic 06 needs a remake badly tho.
"Everyone deals with these things differently." - Infinite
"Some people fuck at funerals; I cut off heads." - Travis Touchdown
JFC, TRAVIS. XD
No guys you don't understand. He lost a fight against Shadow once. Clearly that makes him the most layered and justified Sonic villain of them all.
I am not weeeaaakkkk!