Dallas Police Officer Bobby Hargis sees Roscoe White on the grassy knoll 11/22/63 JFK assassination
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- Never a fan of the Roscoe White story, imagine my surprise when, near the end of the new book ADMITTED ASSASSIN, it is revealed that very credible Dallas Police motorcycle officer Bobby Hargis (who rode near JFK’s limousine) says that he encountered fellow Dallas Police officer Roscoe White on the grassy knoll! What’s more, there is video of Hargis saying this: here it is! Now I am not so sure about dismissing the Roscoe White story after all. Includes the late researcher Michael Brownlow and a bonus news clip from 1990 of Ricky White and the late Larry Ray Harris.
You’re the GOAT VP
Thank you for all of your good work
I remember thinking when I first watched this interview with Hargis that Roscoe had to be in on it. White and a few other Dallas cops and a few Secret Service also. If it was police doing the shooting on the sixth floor and behind the picket fence then nobody had to run anywhere. Officers like Hargis would simply think you got to the scene a little before they did. Now they can just walk around looking for clues like the other cops.
I said the very same thing on a couple threads, but was ridiculed by the Lone Nutter Hardy Boys. Yall know exactly who Im talking about. Also, its obvious Zapruder was paid to film. His camera wasnt jerked away, the FBI " asked" permission for copies. He sold it the next day to a company owned by an former alphabet cereal agent. Who else got paid for theirs the next day? Nobody
Oh my God ! Amazing !
Leads me to give more credibility to the "locals were involved " theory portion of the assassination scenario.
Thank you once again, Vince !
Hargis is very matter-of fact about it.
Never a fan of the Roscoe White story, imagine my surprise when, near the end of the new book ADMITTED ASSASSIN, it is revealed that very credible Dallas Police motorcycle officer Bobby Hargis (who rode near JFK’s limousine) says that he encountered fellow Dallas Police officer Roscoe White on the grassy knoll! What’s more, there is video of Hargis saying this: here it is! Now I am not so sure about dismissing the Roscoe White story after all. Includes the late researcher Michael Brownlow and a bonus news clip from 1990 of Ricky White and the late Larry Ray Harris.
I didnt knkw mr. Brownlow died .
But the exit wound descibed by physicians points to the other knoll . ua-cam.com/video/I-_nGy6QxuE/v-deo.htmlsi=I6t6mURH9a5yaq8K
The exit wound on kennedy points to the southwest koll accross the plaza . We cant link anything on your channel ?
I am with you Vince. I always found the Roscoe White story just a notch or two overly fantastic. Beginning to re-think it. I have gone from eye-rolling to re-evaluating it, and the needle has moved with me. LHO and Roscoe did ride to Japan together in the Marines, and Roscoe's wife worked for Jack Ruby. Passage of time has hurt efforts to find the truth in some regards, but has given clarity in others. Thank you Vince for all your work. Cheers, David
Hi Vince. I'm the Marine Veteran you said you would send a copy of your latest book too. How do we exchange contact info?
Roscoe certainly has an interesting background Vince
What??? This is amazing. NOTHING TO SEE HERE-JUST ROSCOE WHITE ON THE KNOLL!!
After blowing JFK's brains out, Mandarin ditched the rifle and in order to avoid suspicion he feigned surprise while looking around for the source of the shots. I used to do the same thing in grammer school whenever I farted in class. Worked everytime.
A nice addition,VP, to your collection…the best place to go for sure.❤
This is a monumental interview. He blended in
My gut tells me it was roscoe.
Great video. Thanks for sharing Vince!
Roscoe, Files, European hit men, Jim Braden, Mafia hit men , and David Morales ( dark skinned person from 6th floor) all have claims. There were so many shots perhaps they all were the shooters.
All part of the confusion campaign to muddy the waters so much that most people give up. To me the who of the case is less knowable than the what’s, and we can’t converge on a common set of facts on shots, type rounds, wounds, vehicle damage, fragments, etc.
I seem to remember one of the secret service men saying, there were bullets flying all over the place.
@jabberjaw2567 I think Roscoe White (knoll), Nicoletti (Dal-Tex building) and Morales (TSBD) were shooters, Braden a spotter. I discount Files' claims - I think he got the information from first-hand participants and he was simply a driver that day. I think Jean Souetre was another shooter, either farther down on the knoll or near the overpass.
@@pauldurkee4764 That was Roy Kellerman (sitting in the front passenger seat), who scoffed at only 3 shots being reported. His testimony to the WC was that a flurry of bullets flew into the car.
Without a shadow of doubt one round was fired extremely close to Emmett Hudson as seen on the Muchmore film.
Photos and film show that Hargis never went up the grassy knoll. Period.
He’s obviously thinking of Officer JC White, who WAS in that area.
Plus, how would Hargis have even known Roscoe at that time if Roscoe wasn’t even a cop yet?
Interesting!
You were real high on the Roscoe story for a while- was it because of Gary Shaw? I thought the book was lame except for this Hargis bit which you may have debunked lol!
I am receiving hundreds of angry messages about your comment: “you tell Matt I doubt it! He specifically refers to Roscoe!!!!!!!!!!”😂👍
I dunno if it was Hargis who stopped and dismounted. But whoever did, encountered the phony SSA, right? (See my follow up)
I checked one of my books on the assassination (Book of Facts by Duffy and Ricci). It says Hargis dismounted, headed to wooden fence atop the knoll but was surprised to see nothing. Thinking the culprit escaped across the railway tracks, he got back on his motorcycle and rode pass the overpass. If Hargis saw White, did he make nothing of another cop being there?
At the time of the JFK assassination, Roscoe White lived across the street from J.D. Tippitt.
Okay, I have got to get this off my chest. Now that 'we' have at least two witnesses stating White was on the North Knoll, does anyone believe White's accident was an attempt to keep him silent? Yes, he ultimately died of his wounds. Still, after viewing this interview and the incident of an 'unknown' man in a business suit carrying a briefcase just walking in and out of his maintenance shop without being questioned just before White was burned alive, it leaves me with more questions and chills.
Did White regret his actions and compose the journal, or did he see the writing on the wall before his accident and keep it as a "Marine F-you" to his handlers if they decided he was a liability?
I ask this because it seems everyone who had a 'hardcore' military intelligence background and was involved in the assassination either as a witness or as a supposed participant seemed to 'die' under questionable circumstances, with a few exceptions like Plumlee and Ayres, not to mention Lorenz. All seemed to not "go along with the program." From Bruce Pitzer to the SF officer tasked with assassinating him. With the Christensen Affair, who was a witness before the fact and was 'committed' when his warning of the assassination intercept was dismissed.
We all are familiar with the systematic deaths of many civilians who were only witnesses and the low-level conspirators who leaned on the criminal side. Still, I think there should be more research into the military intelligence 'grunts' who seemed apolitical. The ones who were 'following orders' and not invested in the hate that their higher-ups displayed for JFK and Bobby.
Okay, I'll be quiet now.
Charles excellent synopsis. I agree you what you wrote.
And like Christensen, Eugene B. Dinkin, who also had foreknowledge, was committed and finally had to "go along" with them to get out and save himself!
Who was the other witness besides Hargis? Beverly Oliver?
@@d.g.s.4121 yep.
Other than Hargis, who was the other witness that identified RW?
The first 2 men said White was there but didn't do it. The son says he did it. I think I believe the son but could be totally wrong.
Son was troubled. Who else would claim their father was the murderer of our President
Great find Vince. Do you think White is badgeman? Not sure what you think of badgeman in the photo? Many people say it is just shadows. I find all that with Gordon Arnold fascinating. Thanks for any thoughts on White, Badgeman and Arnold if you have time, as I don't want to put you out. 🙂🙏👍
Im not Vince, but I would like to say that the Badgeman fgure along with the Gordon arnold figure and also the hardhat railroad man was too large of figures to be credible. The wall is only about 3 to 3 1/2 ft tall.
Nothing new ? Beverly Oliver said so in the Harry Yardum book " the grassy knoll witnesses " .... on the other hand Ricky White should be ashamed of his dad 😢😢😢😢 ????
This is the first time I've heard of an actual eye-witness place White [after the fact] on the North Knoll. Still, I could have sworn White wasn't supposed to be working that morning. Maybe I'm wrong. Did Hargess mention any other LEOs on the knoll or near/on the train tracks by name?
Brownlow blew that interview by not pursuing Hargis on exactly how fast he got to the fence and who all was behind the fence.
How many old detectives sat there in the TSFM next to Stephen saying, " weeelll, I didnt have an assignment that day, so I was at the office trying to find out when tape recorders were going to be invented, because they hadnt been invented yet.......the radio traffic recordings we had in the recording room 2 doors down were done by magic bullet fairies flying out of Fritz's ........well, you know...
Maybe he was on special assignment...not working for Dallas Police but for ....cointelpro...or ...Operation Mongoose with David Atlee Phillips
@@dianeschumacher6639 From what I remember, COINTELPRO was more reactive than proactive in the early 1960s. Inflitrattion and character assassination was their bread and butter. Bobby kept a lose lid on their activities. That ened with JFK's assassination. LBJ and Nixon gave them carte blanhce to do what ever they wanted. It wasn't until Malcolm X's assassination that they began to take a violently proactive approach to destroy key leaders and or their organizations from the inside out.
Mongoose was shut down before the assassination and reclassified, broken up, or absorbed into several different operations, with Operation 40 getting the bulk of the financing and support. Philips was Hunt's boss and was supposedly seen with LHO in a resteraunt before the assassination. Philips was there to confur or expose LHO to other conspirators [hitmen] associated with the assassination. The only reason I can think of Philips doing so personally was to ensure the shooters knew who their target[s] were.
I believe there may have been more than one operation in play during the assassination.
One to assassinate JFK.
One to murder LHO.
One to stop the assassination.
LHO was obviously picked to be the fall guy, but were there others? Considering his criminal military history, Billy Lovelady would have also been a perfect patsy. I've always found it strange that he looked similar to LHO from a distance. Lovelady was recommended by the same Ruth Payne to work at the TSBD like LHO, and Lovelady was a former disgraced veteran, just like LHO. Unlike LHO, Lovelady was convicted of stealing and selling military weapons and equipment on the black market. What did Ruby do on the side?
On top of that, the TSBD was owned by an anti-communist ultra-wing segregationist. Strange, he would allow these two men to work literally and figuratively under his roof. Was Lovelady there to watch LHO? Was he there to be a co-patsy? Was his employment a coincidence?
As many researchers and even the curious over the years have noticed about the assassination of JFK and the murders of Tippet and LHO, there are far too many coincidences.
Btw, Hargis died 4/25/2014, almost 10 years ago!
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The forensics showed that the bullets came from the opposite side window of the sixth floor depository building, the left side of the triple overpass, and the lower floors of the Dal-Tex building. Also grassy knoll.
And what does Hargis mean he couldn't tell where the shots were coming from after saying he felt the impact of blood and debris from JFK? Forceful backsplatter? Lol
He wore a helmet covering his ears, his motorcycle was on and the crowds were cheering and clapping. That's a lot of stimuli to take in.
@@charleslennonbaker : Yes, I recall him or Chaney mentioning motorcycle roar impeding hearing. The photos show Hargis and Chaney both looking towards their right ahead . . .
But he saw RW on Knoll! Bye time Hargis got there, RW started acting like a police officer searching…
I met Larry Harris at the 93 symposium .I can tell you that I also met a guy at the 2016 Dallas Conference who had an amazing story about Hargis.I need to find that again.The fellow at the conference telling the story passed away soon afterwards
Was it from old age?
@@janetphillips2875 not sure
For White to have shot JFK, the wound would have been an entry at the right temple. The only such wound happened at Z342-343 from the oblique right front, so White didn't make any shots that contacted JFK because he wasn't in the right position. White possibly got off a shot that missed.
I don't see a frontal shot happening at Z342 to 343
E. Howard Hunt mentioned Lucien Sarti, though... and the Thomas Arthur Vallee story was a cuban hit squad.
There were at least five shooters out that day. Sarti was in Texas that day too.
You can’t leave no stone unturned! a lot of stories contradict one another but it’s still good to check them all out 👀
The interviewer sounds a lot like Judge Joe Brown.
The throat shot, and fatal headshot came from the South Knoll.
Throat shot came through windshield from the south The headshot from TSBD dents the chrome divider on car
Has anyone who ran up the grassy knoll right after, admitted to smelling gunpowder in the air ? Did the rifle smell like it was just fired ? Also, what about those "curtain rods" that LHO brought into the depository ?. They never did show up. Also, what about Bonnie Ray Williams who was eating his chicken lunch on the 6th floor ? Two men with rifles moving around up there, while he's eating his lunch ?
I'm not so sure what to make of Ricky White. Much like I'm not too sure what to make of Saint John Hunt's stories of his father. Has Ricky White given any recent interviews since this 1990 one?
All the stories add to the mystery, but we'll never know.
Look at Rosco Whites chin...looks like the chin n the 'back yard photos'.
Yes, I've thought that for several years. The fact that he had cutout photo of the Oswald picture in his possession and that he also worked in photography just amplifies the point.
HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Roscoe white, Cia. Operative code name mandarin. He is badge man on knoll. He also shot j. D. Tippit in oak cliff.
The shooters wouldn't be local since it jeopardizes operational security unnecessarily, unless...
Notice more and more of these researchers around when I first showed up in Dallas are "late.". Some of it's just time...some of it makes you wonder. But I've always been, well, "on the fence" on the White matter myself. My inclination has always been that it was fabricated, but I was unaware that Bob Hargis saw him in that area. It might be worth re-evaluating. I don't know.
I hate the whole badge man thing. To me it just makes the 2nd shooter on the knoll seem like a super fantasy, and makes it easy for ppl to discredit it. I just really hate the why Jim Marrs and others get so over the top about "Badge Man" when its the most ridiculous thing. Out of 2 dots in 1963 photo they somehow see a full shooter dressed like a cop, with of course a 2nd man behind them. Then to top it off they have the guy Gordon Arnold I think is his name, he claims he was in the parking lot got asked to leave twice and then stood in front of the fence on the hill to take photos, hears and feels the shot go over his shoulder past his. Has no proof of him there no photos of him I've seen, BUT wouldn't you know the magically find Gordon in the Badge Man photo also! He's a little dot to the left of Badge Man.
I think a shooter was there and obviously think jfk was hit from the front. But something so ridiculous like Badge Man as the proof just makes it easy to call bullshit. Lastly the Roscoe White thing that I find most interesting is his the way he stands in a photo of him on the beach, its so damn similar to the way "Oswald" is standing in those backyard photos.
Thank you Vince this channel is my go to and only place to find good stuff like this. Greatly appreciated!
Thank you for this channel Vince this is my go to and only place on youtube to find videos like these. Its greatly appreciated!
He said She said.
Only one thought emerges. Did this officer say he didn't know where the shots came from ? Then why did he and Rosco White both immediately go up to the fence area? And how did this officer know if White hadn't been there the whole time of the shooting. Notice Iam not saying this officer is saying anything false.
Strange that Lee Bowers in his description of men behind the fence saw no one in a Dallas Police uniform. Maybe that's because there wasn't one.
Look at Zapruder frame 475 at the fenceline, to the right of the tree with yellow leaves. The Hitler helmet is a greenish fedora, and two feet to the right is a straw hat with narrow black hatband. Those are the guys Lee Bowers saw. They had no guns, but were there to distract Sam Holland etc. from the storm sewer drain shooter at Z286 and the passenger rail car shooter at Z342-343 who fired over the grassy knoll fence. The rail cars are seen in the James Darnell movie, and were censored from the Phil Willis movie after it got back from Washington DC. They used something like pullstring party favors minus confetti, to make smoke and bang noises. Notice none of the other snipers issued forth a bunch of smoke to say "Hey everybody, here I am!!!" The Z286 shot 7-8mm entered above JFK's right eye (Quentin Schwinn, Tom Robinson, Charles Crenshaw, Paul O'Connor) and exited above the occipital bone. On good copies of Mary Moorman you can see this exit wound with the curved white line at the bottom of the wound = JFK's skull bone material as just blasted open. Z286 itself shows the Babushka Lady shadow. Halfway along the shadow, going up and to the left, is a two inch chunk of JFK's skull and hair being blasted out by the storm sewer drain shot. The bullet's path inside his skull is evident from the Bethesda lateral skull x-rays. The Z342-343 shot 5mm from the passenger train car and over the fence hit at the hairline of the right temple halfway between the right ear and right eye (Tom Robinson, Dennis David, Robert McClelland). It blasted out the back of his head as a 4x4 inch hole between Z342-343 and was airbrushed out of Zapruder. Which is why there is no rear of head gouge at Z342 but is at Z343. Also that is when Jackie finally sees blood and starts screaming. Clint Hill says he was splattered with massive blood and heard the shot when he was a few feet short of the rear bumper, as happens at Z342-343. The massive jet of blood rearward was seen by the Willis family (The Men Who Killed Kennedy) but is totally airbrushed out of Zapruder. The guy with a police uniform was on the front side of the fence, as seen by the Army private Gordon Arnold who was about to ship out to Alaska. The cop confiscated the private's film.
Okay Mr. Posner boot licker. Maybe Bowers just didn’t see a man in uniform? Maybe the other side of the story is just as plausible as what you want to believe? 🤷🏽♂️
Brownlow was a grifter. I wouldn't believe a thing that he said.
If i line up the wounds entry and exit wounds in kennedys head they wounds point to the southwest corner of dealey plaza . That is why you wonder how could the grassy knoll have produced the wounds described by parkland physicians .
Z206= shoulder shot from Dal-Tex to get JFK to arch up head for Z220 shot, entered 1.25 inches
Z220= throat wound from southern grassy knoll = sw dealey plaza. Intended for head but bungled low. Second deliberate low power shot to cause coma for later hospital tampering
Z250= into near external occipital protuberance from Dal Tex. Third of 3 deliberately underpowered shots. Goal was JFK to intensive care and alteration by John Liggett before feeding to Earl Rose. Rose added in June 1963 and like Oswald didn't know how he was being used. Dallas had never before needed an MD medical examiner, and Rose run out in 1968.
Z286= above right eye from storm sewer, exit above occipital bone on good copies of Mary Moorman (JFK head by now nodded down due to Z250 shot)
Z313= from Central Records roof Harry Weatherford silencer rifle into right rear occipitoparietal area, out right temple
Z342-343 = from passenger rail car (see James Darnell film) over grassy knoll fence. Trick shot into JFK's right temple and out entrance hole of Z313, blasting it wide open and destroying evidence. Bloody exit fountain airbrushed from Zapruder but verified by Willis family and Clint Hill. No big rear hole at Z316=Mary Moorman snapshot, or Z342, but big hole there at Z343 when Jackie sees blood and starts screaming.
Nope.
Oh, shit. The CIA surfaces again.
He could have been picnicking. Or sightseeing. It's obvious that there were no shots fired from the grassy knoll so he certainly wasn't an assassin.
Never heard of this, thank you for posting
This is incredibly important because of WHO is saying this: Bobby Hargis, not that fake Babushka Lady fraud.
Thank You I don't think Beverly is the Babushka Lady either. Can't stand her
Arnold (Miltary Man) Hoffman and Lee Bowers ...saw a policeman on the Grassy Knoll - Hargis took it for granted another policeman would be there...a refreshingly genuine and humble guy from that horrible day.
Is there any photographic evidence of White anywhere in Dealey Plaza that day?
Watche the movie “the men who killed Kennedy” and they side-by-side compare the man on the grassy no and Roscoe white I believe!
Well that is interesting. Never really sure myself. I saw a video with Larry King interviewing Ricky White on CNN. He certainly tells a compelling story.
So many books and documentaries putting any number of suspects behind the picket fence.
Funny how Hargis said Roscoe was like "looking around for a shooter like he was." Good acting there Roscoe!
Roscoe's diary could never be produced by Ricky White as evidence...so, it's all speculation even today I guess
Ahhh time for junior to profit.
I lost interest. Once John Armstrong proved Lee & Harvey or 2 Lee's, I think that's it.
BUT Roscoe being on the knoll puts the ID to Badgeman. Keep on truckin', wonder kid! Pedro.
That is very consistant with other information😊