FFXV - Comprehensive guide to the dodging system

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  • A quick look at how the dodging system works in FFXV. This guide covers seven evasive tools and abilities in FFXV: phasing, blocking, parrying, blink, dodge roll, idle warp and impervious.
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  • @jnhellstrom
    @jnhellstrom 6 років тому +42

    Damn. Alot of ff guides out there, but sitting through alot of them i find you're going through everything more thoroughly and well explained than anyone else. Kudos fellow earthling!

    • @___Zack___
      @___Zack___ 5 років тому +1

      The hell is an "alot" and why do you keep talking about one? Word doesnt exist.

  • @ChristopherMowrey
    @ChristopherMowrey 7 років тому +50

    Never ceased to be amazed by the quality of content you put out. Great jow with another video. I am also continually amazed at the game and how it always has new mechanics to explore.
    2:26 You mention shields, but you forgot one very important feature. "blinking" or perfect blocking with a shield will cancel the enemy's attack. Using the shield or ring to blink is perfect for enemies like iron giants who normally don't stagger often and leave little room for being open. I highly suggest trying it out and including it in your video

    • @asetoniffxv22
      @asetoniffxv22  7 років тому +16

      Thanks!
      I actually didn't forget about cancelling the enemies' attacks by blocking. At 2:40 I talk about it briefly. The thing is tho, it actually doesn't require timing or blinking. It's purely based on which attack the enemy uses. Some attacks always cause the enemy to stagger and get interrupted and others will never cause this, no matter how perfectly you time your block.
      Iron Giants are the only exception to this. They are the only enemy type in the entire game where blinking perfectly with a shield can stagger them. However, this was such a specific case that I chose to leave it out.

  • @balalaikabestgirl925
    @balalaikabestgirl925 6 років тому +130

    this game could be a lot more rewarding if hard mode was available

    • @TheSuperSaturos
      @TheSuperSaturos 6 років тому +24

      Venom Valeth Equip Nixperience Band at level 1 and there you go.

    • @blue-phoenix115
      @blue-phoenix115 6 років тому +20

      There's a Low level, no license challenge in FF XII which was KRAZY!
      You can do a no level, no ascension challenge. I dare you to try that, pretty sure that would be hardcore mode.

    • @angellara7040
      @angellara7040 Рік тому +1

      ​@@blue-phoenix115 how annoying. That's not hard just time consuming. As the game is now there's never a place where you have to step back and do other things

  • @Insig385
    @Insig385 6 років тому +18

    I swear even hundreds of hrs into this game, i watch ur vids n i still find out surprises. I had no idea free warping through enemies dmgs them omg, i just never noticed. Wow...

  • @noxaeterna21
    @noxaeterna21 5 років тому +9

    That Blink ability could have saved me a couple of times xD

  • @sirfailalotful
    @sirfailalotful 6 років тому +4

    Asetoni, your content is absolutely amazing! I am getting so much more out of the XV combat because of these videos! Keep up the great work!

  • @serjangelo
    @serjangelo 7 років тому +23

    Another really minor addition on the topic of the defensive mechanics is when you equip and select any royal arm, SoW will materialize and defend you against any projectile while you hold the dodge button without you being stuck in the phasing animation.
    Not sure if it costs any mp though

    • @asetoniffxv22
      @asetoniffxv22  7 років тому +9

      Serj Angelo Ah I thought of that but forgot to add it. I did briefly talk about it in my first RA moveset video, but I should have said that at the start. It doesn't cost MP.

    • @djw_tekken8490
      @djw_tekken8490 2 роки тому

      @@asetoniffxv22 lol the photo at the end tho did u drew it ???

    • @djw_tekken8490
      @djw_tekken8490 2 роки тому

      @@asetoniffxv22 if u use ring do perfect dodge with rare metal u fo 16k damage btw

  • @M.G.F427
    @M.G.F427 Рік тому +2

    What I don't like it's that you can't know when to evade when you fight large amounts of enemies

  • @av4010
    @av4010 5 років тому +6

    I think a big part of the misunderstanding most people have about the combat in this game is the phase animation. Phasing is basically guarding. Like, people call it "Hold circle to win" but really, if I hold guard in Dark Souls, Nioh, Ninja Gaiden, or any game with a guard, is that "Holding guard to win?"

    • @asetoniffxv22
      @asetoniffxv22  5 років тому +13

      Pretty much. Although, it also has to do with balancing problems. Guarding in Dark Souls costs stamina, in Nioh it costs Ki and in FFXV it costs MP. The problem is that once you level up even a little bit, your max MP will skyrocket while phasing costs remain the same (or get even cheaper if you buy some ascension nodes). You can also increase your maximum Ki or Stamina of course, but the game also makes stronger enemies consume those resources more.
      FFXV's is a good system in concept, it just lacks balancing.

  • @figureviews
    @figureviews 5 років тому +2

    Amazing! Many reviewers do not know about this.

  • @lamtatyan
    @lamtatyan 6 років тому +3

    Thanks for your video! Now I know that why I always die in pinch so easily, because I have never known these skills, since I am playing this game in Dynasty Warriors manner!

  • @sychodelicstorm5592
    @sychodelicstorm5592 3 роки тому

    i just got the game and this was so hopeful, i kept getting frustrated cus i thought i was just missing the parry timing despite pressing when the prompt came up. thank you!

  • @kkotaro9785
    @kkotaro9785 6 років тому +2

    Really good job on this guide. Especially for the idle warp. it may be the best attack in the game since is basically a way to dodge and attack at the same time and still..i've never seen someone use it or mention it. I swear to god when people criticize this game its like they dont even try to play it the way it was meant to be played.

    • @AlecLapierre108
      @AlecLapierre108 4 роки тому

      Helo person from 2 years ago. You're probably right. I just got the game cuz it was on sale and I was not having fun with the combat at all but I knew it's because I wasn't playing the way it was meant to be played. I looked up a couple videos and boom, it's starting to click and become much more enjoyable and I can appreciate the uniqueness of the system and then
      Rhythm.

  • @JoshuaBelarmino
    @JoshuaBelarmino 6 років тому +2

    correction.. Phase MP cost depends on attire or the Ring of Lucii equipped primarily....

  • @parallel4
    @parallel4 7 років тому +1

    thank you for this! i finished the game not really knowing anything defensive other than how to parry attacks, so this was super helpful :)

  • @udon6988
    @udon6988 5 років тому +1

    holy...amazing guide! fkin insightful!

  • @lerbagge
    @lerbagge 5 років тому +4

    HOLD SQUARE...Works for me most of the time lol kinda silly when discovered!

  • @Kenji_195
    @Kenji_195 6 років тому +7

    ......... Noctis is too powerful, way more than I knew ._.

  • @GoofNerdProductions
    @GoofNerdProductions 5 років тому

    Glad to find your channel!!!

  • @leonardmosca6852
    @leonardmosca6852 5 років тому

    Thanks for putting this up there

  • @rafaelparrac7063
    @rafaelparrac7063 3 роки тому +1

    quality ffxv content

  • @lumbanbatukornelius2094
    @lumbanbatukornelius2094 6 років тому +10

    ultra instinct

  • @LwNickV
    @LwNickV 6 років тому +5

    Impervious is super fun... When PC version lands it's the first skill i'm getting ASAP. Without impervious Noctis just get's up way to slowly.
    Does blink also work when u are doing the backstep with greatsword to use tempast? I got caught alot in this small backstep.

  • @alimohmed2578
    @alimohmed2578 6 років тому

    Nice explanation thanks a lot :)

  • @RyanRodrigues
    @RyanRodrigues 5 років тому +3

    So I've been trying to blink before falling from large heights and I've have failed all times. Do you have to tap square at one particular frame?

    • @asetoniffxv22
      @asetoniffxv22  5 років тому +8

      The timing is pretty tight, but by no means frame perfect. To me, it feels earlier than you might expect.
      Also make sure that you have the node unlocked and that the fall is high enough to deal damage. And unequip Black Hood if you have it, as that accessory disables Blink.

    • @RyanRodrigues
      @RyanRodrigues 5 років тому +2

      @@asetoniffxv22 haha I had the black hood equipped. I'll try it out now.

  • @LwNickV
    @LwNickV 6 років тому +1

    Can you also blink while recovering from a greatsword swing? You know, that annoying step backwards?

  • @blue-phoenix115
    @blue-phoenix115 6 років тому +1

    I can't seem to manually roll no matter what I do, have to resort to warp escaping to dodge move. Please help, I just stand still every time I tap or hold phase button, could never get Noctis to dodge roll like you did in the vid.

    • @asetoniffxv22
      @asetoniffxv22  6 років тому

      Can you even phase by pressing the button? I've never encountered this issue myself. Maybe your controller is broken?

    • @blue-phoenix115
      @blue-phoenix115 6 років тому

      Thanks for replying. Yes, I can phase and blink. Noct will phase or blink through attacks but I can't get him to roll. Also I use the type B combat so the phase/dodge roll button is L1. Every time I tap or hold L1, Noct just stands there phasing or blinks if there's an attack.

    • @abdulrachman380
      @abdulrachman380 4 роки тому

      Me too...i cant dodge roll manual...plz help

    • @AlecLapierre108
      @AlecLapierre108 4 роки тому

      It's a double tap...

  • @Jdennn
    @Jdennn 4 роки тому

    That is Basically Ultra instinct if you think about it 😎

  • @the0master200
    @the0master200 3 роки тому +4

    This game is so so poorly explained. I completed the game without knowing how combat works really.
    Not to mention I didn't get alp the royal arms, since they can't even be found unless you do crazy amounts of looking around to find them.

    • @dantecrailman8861
      @dantecrailman8861 3 роки тому +1

      Even the summons, it prompts you to interact with the summon button but doesn't tell that you actually hold it.

  • @Radhakrishnan-hp6fh
    @Radhakrishnan-hp6fh 5 років тому +1

    How to dodge unphaseable attacks?
    Like the 3 hit combo(3rd hit) of ronin?
    Should i just warp out? Does blink work on that hit? Pls reply!

    • @asetoniffxv22
      @asetoniffxv22  5 років тому +2

      You roll or warp.
      When it comes to Ronin's combo, it actually is phaseable. Well, it's supposed to be. It's one of a couple attacks in the game that is glitched where Noctis sometimes cannot phase it. You are supposed to be able to phase it just fine but the pacing of the swings can very often frame trap you on the recovery frame of phasing.

  • @Qladstone
    @Qladstone 2 роки тому +1

    The internet: "FF15 combat is brainless" (does this while chugging 20 phoenix downs to take out an Iron Giant)

  • @yongkysiaw6597
    @yongkysiaw6597 6 років тому +1

    I got my ass kicked a lot during phasing while fighting one of the kings with the shuriken. Seems i always got hit when she throws her weapon at my back which was odd since i can dodge other enemies attacks when they attack from the back 🤔

    • @asetoniffxv22
      @asetoniffxv22  6 років тому +1

      The direction an attack comes from is never a factor when it comes to whether you can phase or block them. The only thing that matters is the type of attack the enemy uses.
      In the Rogue's case, she has several different shuriken throwing attacks. the ones where she throws just small shuriken(s) can always be phased, but in one of her attacks she throws a bigger shuriken that cannot be phased and you have to dodge roll/warp to avoid it.

    • @yongkysiaw6597
      @yongkysiaw6597 6 років тому +1

      Asetoni FFXV thanks for the tip. And one more thing, is there a spesific way to know when we won't dodge an attack? Mystic can sometimes hit me during his combos.

  • @MJ0101_
    @MJ0101_ 2 роки тому

    yeah, there is a combat system, of course;)

  • @maylaymaylay8970
    @maylaymaylay8970 4 роки тому

    it helps

  • @MBOmnis
    @MBOmnis 4 роки тому

    I have a question, because it's been a while since I played the demo on Steam (haven't bought the game yet, to this day).
    In order to parry an attack, you still have to block it, right? Or do you simply wait for the moment where the on-screen prompt changes from square (to block) to circle (to parry) and do that instead?
    I also noticed it seems like you get a moment of slow motion in order to actually perform the parry. Is this an actual ingame mechanic or did you edit that in the video?

    • @asetoniffxv22
      @asetoniffxv22  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, you have to actually block the attack by being in the phasing stance (or blinking) and then the counter prompt will show up. If you don't block, you'll just get hit.
      And yeah, the slow mo is done by the game. I may have edited some clips in the video to make it all clearer, but there is a very noticeable slow motion when the game gives you the counter prompt when you play it.

  • @Fallen_2003
    @Fallen_2003 3 роки тому

    Basically, Noctis uses Ultra Instinct

  • @camroncrawford6491
    @camroncrawford6491 6 років тому

    Can u attack and hold the phase button and the game will phase for u bcuz ur holding it?

    • @asetoniffxv22
      @asetoniffxv22  6 років тому

      No. Like I said in the video, in order to dodge while attacking you need to time your phase.

  • @townnet
    @townnet 6 років тому

    Phasing and Blink both looks same, what is the different? IMO this all move too overpower and make the game too easy, especially warp strike. People just keep ambush to use it, those move should cost the MP much than that.

    • @asetoniffxv22
      @asetoniffxv22  6 років тому +1

      townnet When you blink, Noctis will glow with blue particle effects.

    • @yongkysiaw6597
      @yongkysiaw6597 6 років тому

      Its not op considering the damage the enemies can do when you got hit.

  • @Radhakrishnan-hp6fh
    @Radhakrishnan-hp6fh 5 років тому

    Hey..i heard that impervious has an internal cooldown time...is it true?

    • @asetoniffxv22
      @asetoniffxv22  5 років тому +1

      No, it's not true.
      gfycat.com/unrulyadmiredicelandichorse

    • @Radhakrishnan-hp6fh
      @Radhakrishnan-hp6fh 5 років тому +3

      @@asetoniffxv22 damn...im so getting this ability today!
      And thanks man...ur devotion to this game is insane!

  • @the1onlynoob
    @the1onlynoob 6 років тому +5

    Blink?
    Me: I dont need mp im never getting this.
    "watch vid"
    Me: fuuuuuuuk

  • @alphaglyph0
    @alphaglyph0 7 років тому +1

    You don't use type b control scheme?

    • @asetoniffxv22
      @asetoniffxv22  7 років тому +3

      I've used A for so long, it's ingrained in my my muscle memory. However, I am currently trying to switch to a custom control scheme that was designed by a guy on reddit.

    • @alphaglyph0
      @alphaglyph0 7 років тому

      Asetoni FFXV interesting, which control scheme would recommend? A, B or C?

    • @asetoniffxv22
      @asetoniffxv22  7 років тому

      None of them. I don't believe that control scheme matters, it only depends on what you're used to or comfortable with. If I had to rank them, I'd say C > B > A, because in C both attack and defend are shoulder buttons, which allows for more free camera movement, but that is only useful when playing without lock-on. Ultimately, it just doesn't matter.

  • @scythe4014
    @scythe4014 6 років тому

    Whats the different between phasing and blink?

  • @juandom6432
    @juandom6432 6 місяців тому

    I still think that FFXII has a better combat system. FFXV combat was too imbalanced. Where the only difficulty is high damage from upper level enemies.

  • @blue-phoenix115
    @blue-phoenix115 6 років тому

    I wish Character level didn't carry over to the New Game Plus