I have an extremely old Thomas Organ Wah. Mine is PRE 1970's. The Wahs with the "Fassel " Inductors, if I'm not mistaken, did not appear until the early 70's. If yours has a TDK Inductor, more than likely it came from the 60's, not to mention that Thomas Organ received the Patent for the Wah in 68 or 69. With that said, if you have a "Patent Pending" Wah"....again, more than likely, to my knowledge, your Wah came from PRE 69!! I may be wrong and do feel free to NICELY CORRECT ME if I'm wrong. I'm only going from what I learned waayyyy back in 73 when I received mine for my 10th birthday.....great, now I'm showing my age!!! It was given to me by my, still to this day, my best friends brother. He no longer used it and had owned it for a long while before he gave it to me. I had been learning to play Guitar since 68.....and I'm still horrible....lol...I loved the sound it made while he was using it and commented on it to him almost every time I heard him. It was my 1st Guitar Effect and I still use it to this day. I've tried virtually every Wah out there and NOTHING COMES CLOSE TO THE TONE AND WARMTH of this old Thomas Organ. I've even tried the Dunlops with the Fassel....no where close. I've turned my bottom plate inside out to protect the Serial Number as well as what paint is left!! Sorry for the NOVEL, just wanted to give you the information I had on the T.O. Wah. I believe yours to be PRE 70's with a couple replacement parts.....the Input and Output Jack's, from what I can see, look to be replacements. Again, only from what I can see....may be wrong there too!!! Congrats on owning the greatest sounding Wah and it being one of the "Originals!!"
Wow...I have that same Crybaby by Thomas Organ company with the red square TDK inductor, and a rugged metal replacement Dunlop Hot-potz installed. It sounds sweeter than the stock Dunlop GCB95, but similar.
Your fasel cry baby was made in Italy by the Jen corp. almost surely in the beginning of the 70s all fasel ones were Italian all TDK are 70s from Thomas Organ with a few stack of dimes also, 60s use a trash can inductor or halo or clover also EF-EL a company from Italy made Vox wahs with large horizontal fasels in 69
has all the rubber parts: feet, self-adhesive rubber 'treadle' even the two bumpers that are supposed to stick under the front of the pedal and cushion it but never do, that is if you want 'em. Dunlop is very nice too they will send you a Dunlop nameplate gratis if you need a replacement. I've got this exact pedal with the TDK inductor. I'm with you. I'm not goggs change a thing on it! You know what they say....If it ain't broke etc. etc.Thanks for the demo.Itt's always nice to see something you've got under review...
i want one of these so bad partly so i can con the untrained eye into thinking it's a plain old dunlop (which i own and there's nothing really wrong with it)
Cool video, thanks. I'm making a list extrapolating serial numbers to "known" years from original owners - can you tell me what the serial number of this one is please. Do you know of any other "firm" serial number/dates? Thanks.
No longer the Vox quack. Sounds more like a volume pedal with a some treble on the pedal-down. After @ 1969 you are out of luck if you want a good vox wah sound. Had to dump many attempts at recapturing the vox quack with these 70's pedals. Too bad they ruined a good thing.
Agreed. It seems (though my research is limited to personal purchases over the years), that the halo inductor and mullard tropical fish give you the best bet of the serious quack -- but old components drift and so, as you note, no two, even with the same innards, are going to sound the same.
Hmmmmmmm......quite possibly. These are the things that keep me up at night...Really! I'm actually gonna try a RI VOX wah maybe I can get it modded. It seems they've gone way down in price. If I get the VOX and it's more dramatic and also has that thing everybody seems to want: the longest sweep possible. I may use a wah pedal more often. Thanks for the heads up stan.
This pedal uses a TDK inductor if I remember right. The 70's Jen wahs with the Fasel inductor is a much sweeter sounding wah and much closer to the original vox wahs as they were, to the best of my knowledge, made by the same people. The circuit is practically identical.
I have a 1979 Cry Baby. which is a mix of a Thomas and Dunlop!
I have an extremely old Thomas Organ Wah.
Mine is PRE 1970's.
The Wahs with the "Fassel " Inductors, if I'm not mistaken, did not appear until the early 70's.
If yours has a TDK Inductor, more than likely it came from the 60's, not to mention that Thomas Organ received the Patent for the Wah in 68 or 69.
With that said, if you have a "Patent Pending" Wah"....again, more than likely, to my knowledge, your Wah came from PRE 69!!
I may be wrong and do feel free to NICELY CORRECT ME if I'm wrong.
I'm only going from what I learned waayyyy back in 73 when I received mine for my 10th birthday.....great, now I'm showing my age!!!
It was given to me by my, still to this day, my best friends brother.
He no longer used it and had owned it for a long while before he gave it to me.
I had been learning to play Guitar since 68.....and I'm still horrible....lol...I loved the sound it made while he was using it and commented on it to him almost every time I heard him.
It was my 1st Guitar Effect and I still use it to this day.
I've tried virtually every Wah out there and NOTHING COMES CLOSE TO THE TONE AND WARMTH of this old Thomas Organ.
I've even tried the Dunlops with the Fassel....no where close.
I've turned my bottom plate inside out to protect the Serial Number as well as what paint is left!!
Sorry for the NOVEL, just wanted to give you the information I had on the T.O. Wah.
I believe yours to be PRE 70's with a couple replacement parts.....the Input and Output Jack's, from what I can see, look to be replacements.
Again, only from what I can see....may be wrong there too!!!
Congrats on owning the greatest sounding Wah and it being one of the "Originals!!"
Built them at the Factory in the 60's in Northridge,Ca.
Wow...I have that same Crybaby by Thomas Organ company with the red square TDK inductor, and a rugged metal replacement Dunlop Hot-potz installed. It sounds sweeter than the stock Dunlop GCB95, but similar.
Your fasel cry baby was made in Italy by the Jen corp. almost surely in the beginning of the 70s all fasel ones were Italian all TDK are 70s from Thomas Organ with a few stack of dimes also, 60s use a trash can inductor or halo or clover also EF-EL a company from Italy made Vox wahs with large horizontal fasels in 69
has all the rubber parts: feet, self-adhesive rubber 'treadle' even the two bumpers that are supposed to stick under the front of the pedal and cushion it but never do, that is if you want 'em. Dunlop is very nice too they will send you a Dunlop nameplate gratis if you need a replacement. I've got this exact pedal with the TDK inductor. I'm with you. I'm not goggs change a thing on it! You know what they say....If it ain't broke etc. etc.Thanks for the demo.Itt's always nice to see something you've got under review...
Thought you were going to play an organ through that wah! but chit chatting for 90% of the vid was just as awesome trust me
i want one of these so bad partly so i can con the untrained eye into thinking it's a plain old dunlop (which i own and there's nothing really wrong with it)
It's a curse and blessing. Do you hear the diff on that Sepulveda CB?
Cool video, thanks. I'm making a list extrapolating serial numbers to "known" years from original owners - can you tell me what the serial number of this one is please. Do you know of any other "firm" serial number/dates? Thanks.
That is what the idiot I bought mine from did, drilled a fucking hole on the output side...
does the thomas wah suck alot of tone?
NO!!!
No longer the Vox quack. Sounds more like a volume pedal with a some treble on the pedal-down.
After @ 1969 you are out of luck if you want a good vox wah sound. Had to dump many attempts at recapturing the vox quack with these 70's pedals. Too bad they ruined a good thing.
ya, a really good sounding wah is hard to find. even two from the same era will sound different.
Agreed. It seems (though my research is limited to personal purchases over the years), that the halo inductor and mullard tropical fish give you the best bet of the serious quack -- but old components drift and so, as you note, no two, even with the same innards, are going to sound the same.
Hmmmmmmm......quite possibly. These are the things that keep me up at night...Really!
I'm actually gonna try a RI VOX wah maybe I can get it modded. It seems they've gone way down in price. If I get the VOX and it's more dramatic and also has that thing everybody seems to want: the longest sweep possible. I may use a wah pedal more often. Thanks for the heads up stan.
This pedal uses a TDK inductor if I remember right. The 70's Jen wahs with the Fasel inductor is a much sweeter sounding wah and much closer to the original vox wahs as they were, to the best of my knowledge, made by the same people. The circuit is practically identical.
i think it sounds quite vocal and resonant