Pythagoras was crazy. He had a number cult. They were trying to figure out what pi was, and when some guy said it was irrational the cult murdered him.
How about some close ups of the polysmooth surface. The world has been waiting for a non biased review of the Polysmooth system, it seems to be vaporware as they just keep pushing out the delivery to the public very month since last year. Yes you did a video before on it but it was not any more complete than this one. Don't get me wrong I think you do a great job, love your you tube channel and the amount of content you put out and work a job and family is amazing. Its just that I have been waiting so freeking long for a proper review of the p[olysmooth system from some one I trust, and every time I contact Polysmooth they just blow me off. Not sure whats going on with there product release.
Hi Robothut, you dont have access to the KS updates? :) They update backers almost every months :) and what do you mean by they always blow you off? :/
Oh ok :) but it is clearly explained on the KickStarter page www.kickstarter.com/projects/polymaker/polysmooth-and-polysher-3d-prints-without-layers/description I think its difficult to make it even more accurate, but i ll be glad to answer your questions if you have any cuz i ve read it all :D
Never been able to get KS updates to work for me. So can you post what the current update is. When will they send out units to the public . Every time I email them they never answer the question, when will they send out units to the public. seems like a easy question, but since I don't get the KS updates maybe its not so easy. So any updates would be great to hear. Seems like they would want to post updates to there facebook page or twitter page, but I have not seen any.
It's strange that they havent answered your emails :/ KS updates are only for backers maybe thats why it doesnt work, are you a backer? I know that backers are receiving their units cuz the first shipment has arrived to the US and one will arrive soon to EU. As for public release, I would say this summer :) You can join this group and ask your questions :) facebook.com/groups/polymaker You ll have a quick answer :)
Definitely appreciate the effort to integrate more science to this channel, but this demonstration would've highly benefited from a 2D diagram (Periodic Videos made a good demo on this). Showing how the liquid travels in barely translucent plastic doesn't really help, and turns the whole exercise into an silly excuse to 3D print something. This is meant as constructive criticism, hope it helps!
This makes me think you should 3d print a Klein bottle. It's a 4d torus, which is a 3d mobius strip! You might need to do it in a clear filament though, to show how it actually works.
This is also known as "The Civilized Cup". I watched Grand Illusions' video of this literally fifteen minutes ago. Weirdest case of Baader-Meinhof I've ever had. That video came out February of 2016. o_O
Cool work there..As a Senior High Math Teacher, yeah i kind of agree Pythagoras is a prankster. Greedycup is also called as Tantalus cup. The way it works is what you just said. The cup is supposedly has a center column that is directly in the stem of the cup which has a small hole creating a siphon shape to it. It really fascinates me how he is a genius prankster.
James Grimwood are there any detachable Klein bottles? like two beleuy loops that you combine into the bottle? could be interesting as long as it is kinda portable.
This is what I am looking for! I love the idea of teaching science with a 3d printer. I asked you a couple of videos ago for this, and you delivered! Please continue with this idea. I love it!
Hello, I just printed this at 100% scale, but water leaks in the little gaps were layers are changing, in the foot of the Cup . I think probably it is only one layer between the duct in the foot so it will not hold water .
This little thing taught me how siphoning works If the water level is above the siphoning tube it will drain however if it is below it will only get as far as the water level
randomgirl L its easy when you fill up higher then than little stink in the middle the liquid enters from a hole in the bottom and then since it gets higher than the stick theres no air lower then liquid level the it flushes it down
When I was in Crete, I purchased an entire firing of a potter that included dozens of Greedy Cups. Mine all have handles and it's within the handle the siphon is located. I have always loved it. Thanks
When I was younger there was a small cup I had that you would fill up and when you put your finger over a hole on the outside it would only release a small amount of water, so you could pour it out, and make it look like it's empty, but then when you turned it back over more water would come out. I've never found the file online, but I would love to print something like that
I really like this. Seeing it in action is way better than static diagrams in a textbook for sure. The best part is, I can go print one right now and do the experiment myself!
i still think that you should print a Meissner Tetrahedron (body of constant width) - its so simple yet magical to see a triangular shape that act like a ball
"There was also a pipe on the outside of the inside of the cup but inside the outside of the cup, that makes perfect sense. "Joel Telling of The 3D Printing Nerd
HARI LA I believe the point was to fool those who became greedy. They did not know this was a Pythagorean cup, and by the time they realizsd it their lap would be covered in wine.
I love this cup :) The version I saw before, had a post in the middle of the cup. But this version is amazing, I guess the old Greeks didn't had such great 3D printers...
I loved videos like this, maybe a bit more printer based talk, like what kind of issued could there be with printing the object itself (if any), but I love the idea of incorporating something sciency (totally a word.).
3-4 years ago i saw an artist show off his 8.000€ cup. It was the same princple but it was a gorgeus looking one.. Also 3d printed but in high grade stainless steel. That thing was pure art.. like litterally.. he demonstrated it for us 2-3 times.
Awesome. I just found and subbed to your channel a few weeks ago, and I'm thoroughly enjoying all the videos, but definitely do more nerdy shit. Klein bottles? Möbius strips? Other unique manifolds? Solids of constant widths? Brachistochrones? I can come up with these ideas all day.
3D Printing Nerd, You should try to come up with a cup that uses this type of layout, but make some designs with the plumbing. write your channel name or something so that when the colored liquid starts siphoning that you can see the pattern.
What is scary about greedy cups is some people used them to poison greedy people. Also you can tell he was a jokester because him and his followers started a cult. Epic print btw I can't wait to see more with the polisher.
I was way off when I clicked this video.. I thought it must be some device I can hide more wine in my lap. I am greedy for wine I guess haha great video even though I must hunt for giant sneaky goblets elsewhere! I will definitely print some and bring them to work to trick people haha
Are we just gonna completely ignore that the puddle under the cup in the square container is almost perfectly centred in a circular manor in the beginning of the video? Lmao
#highfive. He was a genius. I'm not sure how good of a gad that is though. You have to end up cleaning up the mess, unless you have them do it outside.
hey I really loved this video !!! always been a fan of 3d printing and now bonus science facts !!! keep those coming.... Hey also can u review a monoselect mini because I was looking into cheap printers for a start........
so if you drink that with the tube is at your side, I think it will empty when you start drinking right? is that why some other cups put the tube at the center of the cup
I guess he was a prankster. The cup was a start, but his biggest prank was making us all do math.
welp I knew that before :P
Jose A. Ramos but the Pythagorean theorem makes math easier. ???
Nod nod
IKR
Pythagorean theorem is such bs
Is it just me or does something about this guy remind me of Markiplier
+Purple Wolf I've heard I look like Markiplier and I've heard I sound like Markiplier, but people tell me to be him I would have to yell at fish.
I've seen a lot of people that look like Markiplier. All decendents of a single human, I'm guessing. Hahahah
Purple Wolf His voice reminds me a *lot* of Markiplier, and he kind of looks like him, too. Glad I'm not the only one who thought so.
Purple Wolf the voice
Purple Wolf in other words cute af
Pythagoras was crazy. He had a number cult. They were trying to figure out what pi was, and when some guy said it was irrational the cult murdered him.
He was also afraid of beans
I see some ViHart fans here
'Aw beans.'
@@SunnyMackey
So wait... *NOCTIS?!*
back then i would just hold the hole in the bottom with my thumb
Marcus Christensen or put your mouth on the bottom.
Well, look at that, you just outsmarted Pythagoras!
The Pythagorean wine bong!
I bet some have printed it and used it this way. POUR POUR POUR POUR.
if you don't want the cup to empty you should put some mercury and then wine
Well, why is that? Mercury would flow as well.
3D Printing Nerd Chek Periodic Videos (i think), they tried it and it definitely does not spill
Sebastian Rath Also you would get mercury poisoning and probably die! Not worth it, just don't be greedy! ;)
3D Printing Nerd it's because the mercury would be more dense and the pressure of the one wouldn't be able to "push" it up the tube
OH! I see adding Mercury THEN water, I got it. Awesome.
the outside of the inside yes 10 out of 10
totally made sense, right?
3D Printing Nerd first reply from youtuber YAY ty
You should print a Klein bottle! The thing is quite rare, quite pricey and really cool. I suggest you you look into it, it's awesome.
That's what I was hoping to do!
@@3DPrintingNerd
Sometimes called a Klein Flask, due to hearing the name in German and assuming "Flasche" meant flask.
are u gonna gmax it..... lol a giant cup
lets hope so xD
Mark Williams That would be awesome!
GIANT CUP!!!
3D Printing Nerd when can we expect a video?
WHEN for a video? Uhh... I'll add it to my ever growing queue :)
so basically a toilet?
hahahha
Oh shit Pythagorean potty
Pretty much.
What is that, a cup for ants??
I spoke too soon :/
Great work!
xD
It's need to be at least...... 3 times bigger. #Zoolander
Hahahha yes, a cup for ants THEN BIGGER. :)
You call it a greedy cup, I call it the worlds first beerbong. Pyth' really knew how to party.
Good call! Thought, at this point, the cup should be HUGE if we're going to use it for that.
How about some close ups of the polysmooth surface. The world has been waiting for a non biased review of the Polysmooth system, it seems to be vaporware as they just keep pushing out the delivery to the public very month since last year. Yes you did a video before on it but it was not any more complete than this one. Don't get me wrong I think you do a great job, love your you tube channel and the amount of content you put out and work a job and family is amazing. Its just that I have been waiting so freeking long for a proper review of the p[olysmooth system from some one I trust, and every time I contact Polysmooth they just blow me off. Not sure whats going on with there product release.
Hi Robothut, you dont have access to the KS updates? :) They update backers almost every months :) and what do you mean by they always blow you off? :/
3D Printing Science I think he means that they don't explain how it makes the stuff smooth
Oh ok :) but it is clearly explained on the KickStarter page
www.kickstarter.com/projects/polymaker/polysmooth-and-polysher-3d-prints-without-layers/description
I think its difficult to make it even more accurate, but i ll be glad to answer your questions if you have any cuz i ve read it all :D
Never been able to get KS updates to work for me. So can you post what the current update is. When will they send out units to the public . Every time I email them they never answer the question, when will they send out units to the public. seems like a easy question, but since I don't get the KS updates maybe its not so easy. So any updates would be great to hear. Seems like they would want to post updates to there facebook page or twitter page, but I have not seen any.
It's strange that they havent answered your emails :/
KS updates are only for backers maybe thats why it doesnt work, are you a backer?
I know that backers are receiving their units cuz the first shipment has arrived to the US and one will arrive soon to EU.
As for public release, I would say this summer :)
You can join this group and ask your questions :)
facebook.com/groups/polymaker
You ll have a quick answer :)
Awesome demonstration of the siphon principle! Love it!
Very happy you like it!
I'm still not getting how
It drains EVERYTHING
Freaking MAGIC
Definitely appreciate the effort to integrate more science to this channel, but this demonstration would've highly benefited from a 2D diagram (Periodic Videos made a good demo on this). Showing how the liquid travels in barely translucent plastic doesn't really help, and turns the whole exercise into an silly excuse to 3D print something. This is meant as constructive criticism, hope it helps!
It DOES help, thank you!
That's funny, about week ago I first heard about Pythagorean Cup, went to design and print one myself and now Joel is showcasing another one :)
This makes me think you should 3d print a Klein bottle. It's a 4d torus, which is a 3d mobius strip!
You might need to do it in a clear filament though, to show how it actually works.
This is also known as "The Civilized Cup". I watched Grand Illusions' video of this literally fifteen minutes ago. Weirdest case of Baader-Meinhof I've ever had. That video came out February of 2016. o_O
What is the hypotenuse of the cup?
tyler zoe 4
Cool work there..As a Senior High Math Teacher, yeah i kind of agree Pythagoras is a prankster. Greedycup is also called as Tantalus cup. The way it works is what you just said. The cup is supposedly has a center column that is directly in the stem of the cup which has a small hole creating a siphon shape to it. It really fascinates me how he is a genius prankster.
Just found your channel, and this video.. I like it! ANOTHER! *Throws the Pythagorean Cup on the floor*
+Blz Ahz YESSS thank you! #highfive !!!
Yeah about that.. I think I left a permanent hand mark on the screen
Awww. I'm sorry ;)
Well nice to see you made it here Thor.
Thingiverse has a few models of Klein bottles that are fun to confuse people with.
Oh really? I will go look!
Yes! A printed Klein bottle is definitely should be what is next.
James Grimwood are there any detachable Klein bottles? like two beleuy loops that you combine into the bottle? could be interesting as long as it is kinda portable.
*printable
Yes please. I would like to see more of the science related stuff, as long as it isn't instead of your usual stuff.
You got it! I'll do my best to add in some fun videos like this!
This is what I am looking for! I love the idea of teaching science with a 3d printer. I asked you a couple of videos ago for this, and you delivered! Please continue with this idea. I love it!
Hey Chris! You got it!
Cool, Didn't even know there was a gadget out there that made 3d prints smooth!
Hello, I just printed this at 100% scale, but water leaks in the little gaps were layers are changing, in the foot of the Cup .
I think probably it is only one layer between the duct in the foot so it will not hold water .
you should've shown a cross section of the cup on your slicing software. it would've been easy to make sense of the part you said makes whole sense :P
This little thing taught me how siphoning works
If the water level is above the siphoning tube it will drain however if it is below it will only get as far as the water level
This would be a great lesson for a elementary class.
*an
I think you're right!
Great subject Joel, I too love this sort of nerdy stuff.
More please
You got it, Spike!
This is really neat! I've seen versions of this cup demonstrated but seeing liquid move through made it really easy to understand what's happening. :)
randomgirl L its easy
when you fill up higher then than little stink in the middle
the liquid enters from a hole in the bottom
and then since it gets higher than the stick
theres no air lower then liquid level
the it flushes it down
Glad you liked it!
3D Printing Nerd send me the 55$ kickstarted 3d printer
Yes the dv version
I need usb
When I was in Crete, I purchased an entire firing of a potter that included dozens of Greedy Cups. Mine all have handles and it's within the handle the siphon is located. I have always loved it.
Thanks
Oh THAT is cool!
I spent the entire summer there and lived on the beach
Keep up the good work
Wow. That sounds like a great time. I would love to go visit someday!
I think it would be cool for you to 3d print science stuff like this. I really enjoyed this video.
really enjoy these science like videos joel :)
You dont get enough credit. Your videos are perfect. You dont say a whole speech before you get to your video. Thats dope af.
You should print a Klein Bottle! A Klien Bottle is a 3D mobius that only has 1 surface inside and out!
What would be awesome would be a cross sectional cut print to show the cups insides too. or perhaps one using transparent filament.
I tried with this filament to make it transparent, but, it just didn't work out. I'll see if I can get another transparent filament and do this again.
When I was younger there was a small cup I had that you would fill up and when you put your finger over a hole on the outside it would only release a small amount of water, so you could pour it out, and make it look like it's empty, but then when you turned it back over more water would come out. I've never found the file online, but I would love to print something like that
Love this video! 3D printing and shaping young minds are just a few of our favorite things!
That was bad ass. Cool project, neat history, engineering at its finest, and an practical joke all in one!
You can also demo this principle by flushing a toilet
This is relevant to my interest! I just had a friend request that I print him one. Nice to see that this design worked so well.
*high five!*
Whoa, that's great! #ReturnFive
I really like this. Seeing it in action is way better than static diagrams in a textbook for sure. The best part is, I can go print one right now and do the experiment myself!
Agreed. Seeing images of it just doesn't do it justice
i still think that you should print a Meissner Tetrahedron (body of constant width) - its so simple yet magical to see a triangular shape that act like a ball
Oh I LOVE this idea!
I made the same cup using heat changing filament! Its really cool, because if you use slightly warm water, you can see the tube running through it.
Now THERE is a cool idea!
if i can find some time, i might print out another one and mail it in to you!
"There was also a pipe on the outside of the inside of the cup but inside the outside of the cup, that makes perfect sense. "Joel Telling of The 3D Printing Nerd
just put your finger on the bottom of the cup and the liquid won't come out
Wow, you just bested Pythagoras!
HARI LA I believe the point was to fool those who became greedy. They did not know this was a Pythagorean cup, and by the time they realizsd it their lap would be covered in wine.
The original cup was bigger
PantuFJAR put your hand in it
A tube that connected the drainage to the hole in the side, that would only flow if the bottom hole was blocked. Easy fix
I love this cup :) The version I saw before, had a post in the middle of the cup. But this version is amazing, I guess the old Greeks didn't had such great 3D printers...
that was great. seeing more scientific principles in a 3d printed format would be interesting.
Awesome, I'll keep trying to do those sorts of videos!
Hey Joel, where’d you get that Custom UM2? Looks absolutely awesome with the blue on white with your logo!
I loved videos like this, maybe a bit more printer based talk, like what kind of issued could there be with printing the object itself (if any), but I love the idea of incorporating something sciency (totally a word.).
agreed, that's totally a word :)
3-4 years ago i saw an artist show off his 8.000€ cup. It was the same princple but it was a gorgeus looking one.. Also 3d printed but in high grade stainless steel.
That thing was pure art.. like litterally.. he demonstrated it for us 2-3 times.
Hi Joel! Have you checked out the Cetus? I just got it and am really liking it!
Could you show a couple of cross sections to clearly reveal the inner channels for fluid? One vertical and one horizontal section should be enough.
I'll try to do that!
my math teacher would love you and it helps me learn when i have cool visuals
Yessss please could you do more science videos I can't get enough of them!!!!
You bet! I will!
Awesome. I just found and subbed to your channel a few weeks ago, and I'm thoroughly enjoying all the videos, but definitely do more nerdy shit. Klein bottles? Möbius strips? Other unique manifolds? Solids of constant widths? Brachistochrones? I can come up with these ideas all day.
Rad! Thanks for finding me! More nerdy stuff - you got it!
I liked the glass cup. I wonder if we will ever be able to 3d print in acrylic?
Um... I don't know the answer to that.
According to the channel periodic table of videos the cup was so that Pythagoras's students would not get greedy when he gave them wine.
that is pretty neat. I've never seen one that has the plumbing through the walls of the cup.
I too thought it was pretty neat. Normally the plumbing is in a center stack, but this one had it go around the side. Cool!
3D Printing Nerd, You should try to come up with a cup that uses this type of layout, but make some designs with the plumbing. write your channel name or something so that when the colored liquid starts siphoning that you can see the pattern.
What is scary about greedy cups is some people used them to poison greedy people. Also you can tell he was a jokester because him and his followers started a cult. Epic print btw I can't wait to see more with the polisher.
More polished prints are definitely coming up!
Isn't it a bell siphon in cup form? Commonly used on hydroponic farms
Loved the very appropriate shirt for this video :-)
YES! I was hoping someone would notice!
"Hug each other more"
2020: Press X to doubt
This guy looks nothing like Markiplier. Y'all on another goddamn level.
Seth Begley hahaha. I also think I look nothing like Markiplier
the voice is similar though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Both cups will empty at the same time from their equivalent full levels, as everything is an exact scale.
So how do you ensure the cup is safe to drink from? I've heard the hotends can contaminate the filament, even if PLA is technically foodsafe.
I'm subbing just for "outside the inside of the cup, but inside the outside of the that makes total sense" 3D Printing, Coin Snorting nerd 2017
I was way off when I clicked this video.. I thought it must be some device I can hide more wine in my lap. I am greedy for wine I guess haha
great video even though I must hunt for giant sneaky goblets elsewhere! I will definitely print some and bring them to work to trick people haha
Hahahahs oh man, I'm sorry! If I can ever figure out how to use 3d printing to hide more wine on your body, you can bet I'll video that! :)
There are so many people saying he sounds or looks like Markiplier and I just can't see it...
I don't either
great video Joel, I'm going to have to print one of these for sure.
Yes you will, Matthew!
You recommended making it bigger because there is more liquid so I'll make at a big as my printer can go and it will probably be over 9000(%)
If you were in a box of one-way glass, would it be dark or light inside
Awesome ! Thanks for sharing ! Love your channel !
i love science and stuff too id appreciate more like this :)
Is it just me or this dude really sounds like markiplier?
No offense by the way.
Markiplier is a rad dude, it's a compliment!
3D Printing Nerd omg didn't thought you'd reply to me 😂😂, but i really like Markiplier too .
Are we just gonna completely ignore that the puddle under the cup in the square container is almost perfectly centred in a circular manor in the beginning of the video? Lmao
Blinx6 you are the first to notice this awesomeness! You get a heart!
I tried printing that print but it fills the inside walls of the cup with the liquid
KLEIN BOTTLES MAN. THATD BE SICK
You look and kinda sound like markiplier
I also am a geeky science nerd... Good job, keep it up!
#highfive. He was a genius. I'm not sure how good of a gad that is though. You have to end up cleaning up the mess, unless you have them do it outside.
it would be cool to see a cross section of how it works maybe if you print it off a cross section version of the cup
Oooh, okay. I could do that. Or perhaps I show the cross section in the slicer? Would that work?
the noise just sounds wrong :)
I've wanted Too see a video like This about Pythagoras's wine glass for a while
So COOL! Gotta print one of these! :D :D :D
I was actually learning about the Pythagorean theorem the other day
I now need to pee....thanks Joel....
Hahah. Sorry about that.
I spent hours watching bell syphoning videos just to wrap my head around it. I'm a bit slow sometimes.
Hahahahaha. This made me LOL in real life!
I love this thing! :D I was absolutely amazed when I first saw one of these, it was like magic! :O
I've found Markiplier's brother!!
That's me! 3D Printiplier
I'm not sure if you have a Switch but if you do, could you please print some Joycon grips and test them out?
I keep TRYING to get a Switch but Amazon never has them in stock. When I do, you can bet I'm going to print some!
Can u make one shaped like a mug that would actually pass as one shape wise just that it looks 3D printed?
"I got some red liquid here"
Hmmm... would that be THE RED BULL RIGHT NEXT TO YOU?
Practical Engineering and Periodic Videos both have videos about greedy cups and Bell siphons if people want further watching.
I love the Periodic Videos so much!
hey I really loved this video !!! always been a fan of 3d printing and now bonus science facts !!! keep those coming....
Hey also can u review a monoselect mini because I was looking into cheap printers for a start........
Thanks you! I will keep them coming! I'll try to reach out to Monoprice to get one!
so if you drink that with the tube is at your side, I think it will empty when you start drinking right? is that why some other cups put the tube at the center of the cup
Yes. With this one, if you tip it with the tube towards you, spillage.
With that amount of liquidl thought the tiny cup was somehow gonna hold an ungodly amount of wine(or whatever it was)
I never knew Markiplier had another channel.
Kline bottles next plz! also love your videos!
Thank you! I'll see what I can do!